He has done it already: :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by sladesurfer
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There is one potential downside to the DDC. It appears that there have been numerous failures of the pump after appx 1week to 2months of use.
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He has done it already: :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by sladesurfer
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There is one potential downside to the DDC. It appears that there have been numerous failures of the pump after appx 1week to 2months of use.
MaxxxRacer, thanx for the explanation, but if pump doesn't overheat on the air, then why should the watertemp rise? i mean, if the heat produced by pump, isn't enough to overheat it, then in the water there will no any raising of temp, will it?
Can anyone tell me whether or not I could fit the Iwaki MC20RLZ in my new Lian Li Case (PCG70) w/o issue?
Here's the case:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal.../PC-G75_01.jpg
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal.../PC-G75_02.jpg
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal.../PC-G75_03.jpg
Dimensions on the Iwaki have been hard to find. I was thinking of trying to fit it in my hard-drive bay.
Another question I had is about the power issue. It runs on AC current, from what I understand, which means I can't run it off the power-supply, right? Is there a converter that I can buy so that I don't have to plug it into the wall-outlet? That's going to be kind of tough with where I plan to sit it inside my case (but I need to find out if it will fit first).
Thanks. I'm a relative n00b at some of this as you can probably tell, but you guys have an excellent forum here. I already know 4 or 5x what I did a week ago about all this stuff.
The Iwaki would be paired with the specs in my Conroe build below. Thanks.
sigh.. let me see if i can make it simpler...Quote:
Originally Posted by L'enFer
take a bowl of water and a red hot coal..
scenario 1: put the coal in the water = all of coals heat goes into water
scenario 2: put the coal next to the bowl = some of the coals heat goes into the water...
scenario 1 is = to putting the pump in the water
scenario 2 is = to placing the pump in the case, not sumberged in the water.
anybody have an opinion on that newish mag II LE i see dangerden released?
MaxxxRacer, ok, i was wrong. thanx.
I'm trying to decide between the MC20RLZ and MC20RLZT. I would like to use metal barbs throughout my case, so does it make a difference which one of these that I choose? Or could I simply buy an adapter for it?
The RD-30 is better (and about the same price). I've never used a pump like that, so I don't know how to power it, but there are plenty of ways besides using wall outlet...
Just read the specs, it clearly sucks.Quote:
anybody have an opinion on that newish mag II LE i see dangerden released?
The lowest I've seen the RD30 go for is 250$. The one I'm looking at is 179$. Sizeable difference there.
Also, I could run the RLZ off my power-supply with a relay; the RD30 is 24v and won't run off it if I understand this whole process correctly. I would have to purchase a device specifically for the pump in addition to what I already have.
It's not bad assuming that you only want to cool a CPU and that you don't have any highly restrictive components in your loop.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaqMale
Im wondering wether or not my DDC is better than an Ehinm 1048..
also, can a DDC be mounted to the back of an Aquatube 2x5.25" bay thingy??
Your DDC is about 5x better than the 1048. Remember, the 1048 is a huge, weak, 5 year old pump. A DDC is on par with a D5. A DDC-2 is about 30-40% better than a D5, Ie- the best DC pump to date.
I thought it was around 10 years old?Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
It may be 10 years old. I just said 5 because I knew it was ooooooold, just not how old.
thanks for the reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardokk
so if i was going with a DD tdx cpu block, 2x DD maze 4 gpu blocks (and maybe a maze 4 chipset block) with a pa 120.3, which pump would you gurus recommend? i think the loop is pretty non-restrictive right? could i save $30 by going with a mag II le over a d5?
maybe mag II and get a nb block or d5 without the nb block?
Well, with that many components in the loop, you'd be happier with either a D5 or a modded DDC-2... Both should perform better, last longer, and make less noise.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaqMale
If u want staight answers without first searching... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaqMale
Ditch TDX and chipset block. Get something better for cpu + DDC-2.
If you only havew 1 120mm rad is the ddc2 worth considering over the ddc1?
i've searched and searched and read sticky after sticky and only ended up more confused. what i know for sure is custom over all-in-ones. what i would really like to now is how much difference in temps does the pump make? also, why is the tdx so bad, it's much less restrictive than the storm rev2 right while being +1 C/W, wouldn't it be better for my loop consisting of maybe 2-3 maze 4 blocks (2 gpu and maybe 1 nb)?Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
Heres a comparison for CPU water blocks. just look for the graphs and charts for tests performed on the Storm. the pressure isnt the best but its a restrictive block what do you expect. least its less restrictive then the MP-5. You want the least amount of pressure compared to the quality of temp decrease, storm wins hads down.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaqMale
http://www.systemcooling.com/images/...image24big.gif
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^^^ it's funny that you'ld post links from the systemcooling.com review of the apogee but my question to you is then, why is it that in an actual test system was there only 1 degree difference when the volts were turned up.
the apogee didn't do so bad against the storm though the chart dictates that it would suck against the storm.
i believe that with a storm in the loop the max flow rate will be too low for any real performance of the maze4 blocks that will be in my loop. Here's the CHART i've been using.
i'm a complete noob to watercooling but it seems to me that with DD blocks i will have a less restrictive loop than a single storm and be able to have a high flow loop.
anywho storm is out, not a block thread, here about pumps
My real question is, how much difference would there be in temps between pumps in this setup (best guestimate)
DD tdx block, 2 DD maze4 gpu blocks (maybe a maze 4 chipset block) cooled by a pa 120.3
temp difference for the following pumps, DD magII LE, Laing D5 (655) , Laing Ddc 2 (355) with petra top?????
on a different note, anybody else think that maybe people here on xs have been programmed to respond, storm, pa 120.3, ddc 2 with top without being able to justify in results the extra cost for a storm compared to other blocks, the extra cost of the top for the ddc 1/2?
not sure if it too late for the answer but...Quote:
Originally Posted by Xion X2
you would need very taught grip drill fastnd metal worm drives to even posibly warrent metal barbs on the iwaki's. you would probly shatter the front face at the same time u managed to crack the stock barbs as the whole thing is one piece lol.
So what is the best pump for these two waterblocks?
AquaXtreme MP-05 PRO Universal CPU Water Block
Apogee Extreme Performance CPU Water Block
???
Please read the guides. There aren't a million DC pumps to choose from. You got the 2 basics, D5 or ddc-2 w/ top. Independent testing shows ddc-2 20-30% better than the D5. The MP-05 is more restrictive than the storm, apogee is not. So it depends on the block you want to use.
hi, i'm quite new in DIY watercooling, and i just bought D5 from a friend. Since both of us are newbie :D we tried google to learn about the adjustable dial at the back of the D5. and we cant find any site that explain anything bout it..
So any of u guys mind to explain to me bout it?.. what it is for, and which one is better, lower number or higher number (5)
thx