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02-19-2008, 12:26 PM
stephen23

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Originally Posted by iadstudio

I'll have my new set tomorow, we'll see if it's double. The set in my machine right now is double sided, but if I can't find another pair, I'm selling the ones I have and going for something else. These sticks are way too expensive to suck sooooooooooo bad.

this is from my frd, luckily I still own a pair of double side which can run at DDR 1400.
02-19-2008, 12:31 PM
Don_Dan

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Originally Posted by stephen23

I can see nothing even scratch the chip surface, it doesn't have a code on it like those D9GMH b4.

Well, maybe if you're still having the live chat, you could ask the representative about the chips. But I hope r00n will know what they are ( and he should change his RAMlist about the product number ending 8FE5 or 16FD?, don't know the last digit/letter ).
I still hope my set of 5300 will use D9GMH, but shipping from the US will take some time.
02-19-2008, 12:33 PM
stephen23

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Originally Posted by iadstudio

Can you take a pic of the numbers on the packaging? Maybe with enough info we can figure out how to distinguish the old from the new.

I'm guessing the batch ".8FE5" are all single sided.

I think so, double side is 16FD5 even on new HS that without clip
02-19-2008, 07:33 PM
scifikg

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Just bought 2 sets of Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 from newegg

I think they are D9 chips they can do DDR2 1066 at 5-5-5-15 at 2.2V

BL12864AA663.16FD4

One of the heat spreaders was barely attached so I took a picture for you guys.
02-20-2008, 01:01 AM
stephen23

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Originally Posted by scifikg

Just bought 2 sets of Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 from newegg

I think they are D9 chips they can do DDR2 1066 at 5-5-5-15 at 2.2V

BL12864AA663.16FD4

One of the heat spreaders was barely attached so I took a picture for you guys.

you got the good stuff!
02-20-2008, 02:54 AM
Rone

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Originally Posted by stephen23

I got a pair of tracer today which is also single side!

Thanks for the photos. They look a lot like D9HNL.

Could you measure up one of the ICs and post back their dimensions?
02-20-2008, 03:45 AM
Vatos_locos

i heard something like Micron has stop producing D9GMH's is that real ?
02-20-2008, 05:45 AM
stephen23

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Originally Posted by r00n

Thanks for the photos. They look a lot like D9HNL.

Could you measure up one of the ICs and post back their dimensions?

is 12mmX8mm
they use these chips coz they can make 2GB stick?
02-21-2008, 11:02 AM
Gen

had a set of old micron d9gmh ballistix (8500) and wanted another set for 4gb and received .8FE5 (8500) new revision and started testing with them with 4dimms for a 24/7 o/c.

so far completely stable:

Q6600 450x8 1.37v
P5k-e
4dimm: 5:6 540mhz 55515 2.0v Plvl 1
subtimings auto
nb: 1.4v (lowest)
nb ref: auto

http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/435...2714226_rs.jpg

http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/464...6246071_rs.jpg http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/446...7201492_rs.jpg

http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/458...7204607_rs.jpg http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/465...4374127_rs.jpg
02-21-2008, 11:23 AM
iadstudio

I used to have the exact same memory configuration as you, had about the same results. Actually comfortably got to 555 @ 2.19v and ran trouble free for 2 weeks and then the new revisions started to give me errors.
02-21-2008, 11:41 AM
stephen23

single side can't go to 1200CL5 no matter what voltage
not to mention CL4......................
got a refund from crucial already!
I can just say their service is good!
02-21-2008, 11:49 AM
NINaudio

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Originally Posted by iadstudio

I used to have the exact same memory configuration as you, had about the same results. Actually comfortably got to 555 @ 2.19v and ran trouble free for 2 weeks and then the new revisions started to give me errors.

I have a very similar issue. My new single sided revision ran fine at 1133 w/ 2.25v's for a week then started giving me blue screens all over the place, and tons of errors in memtest at rated speeds as well as at DDR-800 speeds.
02-21-2008, 11:59 AM
stephen23

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Originally Posted by NINaudio

I have a very similar issue. My new single sided revision ran fine at 1133 w/ 2.25v's for a week then started giving me blue screens all over the place, and tons of errors in memtest at rated speeds as well as at DDR-800 speeds.

seems 8FE"X" is a death code......................!
02-21-2008, 01:35 PM
By0T0xN

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Originally Posted by stephen23

seems 8FE"X" is a death code......................!

Man, You ain't kiddin. I have had two sets of 8500 8FE"x"'s in the last two months and called tech support. They said they are sending me a new batch. We'll see when they get here. Funny thing "Brad" at Tech support told me when I asked about which D9's they were having problems with and he said that "they are not all D9's." WHAT?! I thought they were all Micron D9's i said. No they are all Micron but not D9's. Guys, what's Brad talking about? Does Micron make other model IC's?
02-21-2008, 01:40 PM
stephen23

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Originally Posted by By0T0xN

Man, You ain't kiddin. I have had two sets of 8500 8FE"x"'s in the last two months and called tech support. They said they are sending me a new batch. We'll see when they get here. Funny thing "Brad" at Tech support told me when I asked about which D9's they were having problems with and he said that "they are not all D9's." WHAT?! I thought they were all Micron D9's i said. No they are all Micron but not D9's. Guys, what's Brad talking about? Does Micron make other model IC's?

not only the performance but also the stabilty makes me......................!
if I purchase ballistix next time, I will ask them to send me 16FDX!
02-21-2008, 02:13 PM
Gen

hmm wonder how long mine will hold out at 2v lol. such crappy ic's on their high performance ram.. looking preemptively like a bad revision and worth steering clear of if you want over 2.1v (1100+) 24/7.

had my good old gmh at 2.15v 600mhz 54410 for a year before this.
02-21-2008, 02:45 PM
stephen23

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Originally Posted by Gen

hmm wonder how long mine will hold out at 2v lol. such crappy ic's on their high performance ram.. looking preemptively like a bad revision and worth steering clear of if you want over 2.1v (1100+) 24/7.

had my good old gmh at 2.15v 600mhz 54410 for a year before this.

here is my good old pair!
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l1...stix600CL5.jpg
02-21-2008, 03:13 PM
SWFLTrader

About to give up and switch to G.Skill

I have gone thru 6 sets of this ram so far with no luck, all single sided PC8500. I am now testing sets 7 & 8 and for a couple of hours I thought I had found something that worked both sets seem to have the same bin# on all 4 sticks CL1118N.NX I left the timings on auto as that is the only way it will set the timings correctly on my board.

wouldnt run at 800mhz without memtest errors, switched to 1066 and ran fine with memtest for 4 hrs, then ran P95 small fft for 2+hrs as soon as it got to 40K test got the BSOD :mad: now have errors at 1066 in memtest. same pattern of degradation as the other 6 sets. I have tried voltages from 1.9 to 2.25 it doesnt make a difference, tried changing FSB & NB voltage, but, at some point you have to say enough is enough. I have 2 more sets arriving tomorrow which will probably be single sided and if those dont test out, then I am switching to G.Skill, Crucial has been good for a while, but these latest single sided dimms are junk and shouldnt have been released, I know DDR2 prices have dropped like a rock and the suppliers are trying to move inventory but this is rediculous
02-21-2008, 04:10 PM
By0T0xN

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Originally Posted by SWFLTrader

wouldnt run at 800mhz without memtest errors, switched to 1066 and ran fine with memtest for 4 hrs, then ran P95 small fft for 2+hrs as soon as it got to 40K test got the BSOD :mad: now have errors at 1066 in memtest. same pattern of degradation as the other 6 sets. I have tried voltages from 1.9 to 2.25 it doesnt make a difference, tried changing FSB & NB voltage, but, at some point you have to say enough is enough.

That's exactly what happened to me. At what point is Crucial going to do the right thing? I hate being stuck in this rma loop of theirs. If this new set doesn't work I might just sit on them for a while till they fix this issue they are having. I'll go ahead and buy a new set of something else. Anyone got a good recomendation for a set of 8500 or 9600's
02-21-2008, 11:36 PM
zsamz_

damn shame makes me wanna put my mushkins back in n save the ballistix for a rainy day
02-22-2008, 04:03 AM
stephen23

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Originally Posted by By0T0xN

That's exactly what happened to me. At what point is Crucial going to do the right thing? I hate being stuck in this rma loop of theirs. If this new set doesn't work I might just sit on them for a while till they fix this issue they are having. I'll go ahead and buy a new set of something else. Anyone got a good recomendation for a set of 8500 or 9600's

do a live chat with crucial online to obtain the RMA# by saying that the single side module is not compatible with your double side one and ask them to return a pair of double side to you specificly! then you can get out of that loop..............!
02-22-2008, 04:23 AM
By0T0xN

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Originally Posted by stephen23

do a live chat with crucial online to obtain the RMA# by saying that the single side module is not compatible with your double side one and ask them to return a pair of double side to you specificly! then you can get out of that loop..............!

yep, basically that's what I did when I talked to Brad on the phone at Tech Support. I told him that the last two sets which were the 8FE"x"'s both failed within 2-4 days of use @ stock settings. He said they were going to send me different batch. I hope that means back to the double sided set. Though I had one of those 16FDX sets go bad on me first which started this whole process. Maybe this new set will work. At this point I'm seriously thinking about a different brand. The G.Skill 2x2GB 8000's look good. And Cheap. Any other recommendations?
02-23-2008, 04:08 AM
By0T0xN

Somewhat good news. I recieved an email from Crucial with my order number concerning the new parts they shipp 3 day UPS yesterday. I checked on the part and they are confirmed BL12864AA1065.16FD5. Those are the double sided ic's aren't they? Wonder which D9's they are? Is there a way to tell without pulling the heatsinks off? Wouldn't that void warranty? At least they aren't the 8FE"x"'s. Sorry for the questions. :shrug:
02-23-2008, 12:35 PM
stephen23

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Originally Posted by By0T0xN

Somewhat good news. I recieved an email from Crucial with my order number concerning the new parts they shipp 3 day UPS yesterday. I checked on the part and they are confirmed BL12864AA1065.16FD5. Those are the double sided ic's aren't they? Wonder which D9's they are? Is there a way to tell without pulling the heatsinks off? Wouldn't that void warranty? At least they aren't the 8FE"x"'s. Sorry for the questions. :shrug:

usually D9GMH.
02-23-2008, 01:04 PM
SWFLTrader

Good Bye Ballistix single sided sticks

Well after throwing in the towel (tested 10 sets total with all the RMA's), I just shipped my 4 sets of Crucial DDR2 1066 ram back to the egg for a full refund (they are awesome about that) and ordered the new
G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK R - Retail, got 2 sets so I can run 8gig on my Maximus Formula :up:

I will let you know how it works out, there are limited reviews on the new 8500 sticks but I'm guessing that they will work better than the ballistix :rofl:

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