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oh I figured he had a connection...just curious and jealous:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
oh well....I still doubt this board will be available before xmas(100 or whatever)....
SO I have decided this is the best option so far and I will wait a little longer..the wife will get pissy...oh well
Oh well If I can't get the board before xmas, I guess I can entertain myself by reading the full review that is coming out tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
Its a software RAID controller, all they're good for is RAID1 and lots of em' can't even do that properly, and performance will be lousy on top of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by D3mon_Hunt3r
If you wanna go RAID get a hardware card or don't even bother with it, just stick with one of those 150GB Raptors.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=474Quote:
Originally Posted by D3mon_Hunt3r
IIRC, Tony said the Promise is slower.
Its not software...the SB has raid built into it. It is hardware raid 0, 1, 5Quote:
Originally Posted by mesyn191
We had a long discussion with AMD this morning. I have slightly revised the history of the chipset in the preview article. The RD600 was technically developed after the RD480/580 but is based upon the first Intel chipset we worked with last year that was internally called RD400 (stingray board) at the time. The RD600 is new in the sense that they added the Active Link II system from the RD580 but also updated the PCI Express logic core to improve CrossFire performance (we noticed at the higher resolutions compared to 975X). Just to recap, the chipset core is based on the RD400/480 design with dual x8 capability, has the Active Link II system from RD580, and includes new PCIe core logic along with a much improved memory controller. We are still debating proper voltages for the NB while overclocking but will provide an update later this week.
no they are still considered software raid.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
now that may not be true if they have revised the controllers in such a way to be more "hardware" than "software"
onboard raid has always been a software driven pseudo-hardware.
hardware raid needs no drivers(so to speak, but that thought can be argued over and over), the raid is created and handled by its own processor, not by a shared processor, so to speak.
sure its cheap raid and cant be compared to a true promise or seagate, or compaq or ibm hardware raid controller or something similar to my S-Cure Hardware Raid controller (which needs no drivers, ever, its all hardware driven.) but onboard has never been hardware raid the drivers you install tell the controller what to do.
Never needs drivers? So Windows just sees the drives, you don't have to install anything to get Windows to boot and no drivers for the card once in Windows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
I have used Adaptec and DGR hardware raid cards (with 128MB cache on them) and you still needed a driver in Windows.
The basic difference between software RAID and hardware RAID is:
Hardware RAID in its various incarnations will use it own dedicated processor (usually located on the add-in card itself) for RAID array management.
Software RAID is software designed to run its RAID routines through the system processor for RAID array management. The onboard RAID controllers are used for basic hardware routing through the various IDE/SATA channels.
Also, ALL hardware requires some sort of driver, the driver basically tells the hardware what to do/ho to operate.
Exactly. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
My E6300 is rock solid stable at 3.15Ghz (450FSB) @ stock voltage.
Thing is, I don’t want to sell myself short with max CPU overclock at 511FSB when I could have the possibility to go higher. At the end of the day, we all know CPU speed is king.
7 * 511 = 3577 mhz, which is quite respectable by all means for C2D.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichUK
People like Rich and myself probably aren't looking for a board to acheive respectable overclocks. My 6400 is 12 hours orthos stable @3721 mhz 1.440vcore @ load. It would probably do more, but the evga I had wouldn't go any higher. The same cpu did 3.6ghz 1.36v @ load ,but failed orthos blend any higher on the P5B. Some of us just don't want the motherboard to be the limiting factor of an overclock. Unfortunately my experience shows there's no way to know for certain without going through a few boards. These Conroes are not like the Opterons or other overclocking processors we've toyed with. Max oc of a cpu is not the same from motherboard to motherboard. You've just got to find the right combination of hardware and lady luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by _33
511 FSB as I've said before, will satisfy most people with a 6400 or better on air. Phase or dice users will probably want a liitle higher clocking board. The 600FSB boards we hear manufacturers boast of are not here. But this board has been engineered for the overclocking enthusisats & should be a good buy for most of us.
if these chipsets can hit the clock generators limit on air ... the what about people who want to really cool the ATI chipset for more than 511fsb?
someone please ask and confirm with Oskar that he is replacing the 511max fsb clack generator asap :cool:
edit: now that we have a couple of extra voltage options for pushing even unlucky 4mb cache chips, with low fsb walls, it seems silly to have the clockgenerator IC becoming the limiting fsb factor
Tks for bringing that to my attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
The Promise is slow, the Promise RAID benchmarks are already up, native controllers in a couple of days.Quote:
Originally Posted by D3mon_Hunt3r
With the latest beta BIOS release -
If you disable Promise and SB600 RAID you can use the second X16 slot (x8 electrical) for a RAID card, it will switch your first x16 slot from x16 to x8 operation.
The physics slot (x2 electrical) works fine with our x1 Network or TV Tuner cards once you switch the jumper now.
So the best performance from a RAID0 would be using a RAID card instead of any of the onboard controllers?
If i do that won't i have problem when using a ATi card, presuming the RD600 still increases the PCIe frequency when it detects an ATi Card, like it said it would do on the presentation slides?
Tks
Keep up the good work.
Good raid card will cost you hundrets of $ :)
And certainly isn't necessary for the average user. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
For the average user raid isn't needed... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by technodanvan
Is anyone here an average user?
Believe me that raid isn't needed for the majority here...
*raises hand*Quote:
Originally Posted by Trice
Recently, I went from 2x74GB raptor RAID back to single maxline drive and I can hardly see any difference in day to day tasks including gaming and game level loading :)
Of course, maxtors in general are not very reliable but they are fast and I have only sys, 1 game and some crap there :)
Sure in benchmarks RAID is better
Majority for me in this case would be about 96.46% of the users, take away the professional benchmark gurus, and it might be 99.2%. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
Anyway, we are still tweaking this board for better memory throughput, but the RD600 is for the most part memory bandwidth starved when compared to the 975X. Some games and 3D apps score great, some do not when benchmarking. We are discussing the memory controller with AMD tonight to see if there are any tweaks left in it. I doubt it as I really believe Oskar maxed the board out. The board has one huge feature, flexibility, but I doubt the board will ever be used for setting benchmark records. However, due to the stability, power consumption, CrossFire performance, and flexibility, it should make for a good mainstream board especially if the price comes down a little.