ZOMG.. that's better than the best single core opties :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
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ZOMG.. that's better than the best single core opties :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
You get 50% cpu load?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
If i run prime i get 100% on cpu 0 and 100% load on cpu1 :eek:
You need to set affinity, right click on each Prime95 session in Windows Task Manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by tinuz97
Both cores should be running a 100% load.......
No i do it on a other way: i copie the install dir from prime 95,make from that .exe also a shortcut on desktop so you will have 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
I set in the first prime that i must use cpu0,and in the 2nd prime that i start up i set affinity to cpu1.(advanced and then affinity in prime95)
After that i have 2 primes running for 1 core each,that gives me 100% cpu load in taskmanager on both cores,weird that is 50% by you,it must be 100% :slobber:
:worship: Clint's CPU
Hmm, doesn't matter what I do...I get only 50%Quote:
Originally Posted by tinuz97
I believe you are wrong guys, all the primes I've been looking at has 50/50 load
Hehe, still alive as well...phui!:slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
170 @ 2961 @ 1.59v naked 0550upmw 434
been running at this speed for 3 days now with no issues what so ever. i will go for max 3dmark05 stable tonight,
70f room temp she idles at 33c load 39c
Yep I'm wrong, I just tested it.... Although the task manager graph show each core at 100%, processes shows them both at 50%...Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
Shame on me... :slapass: :slapass: :slapass:
So I think the problem is solved. Thanks to everyone for the advice on this. Today I replaced the OCZ modstream with a BFG Tech SLI certified PSU.
no more random shutdowns and I have been dual priming for about 3 hours, plan to let it go another 4-5 hours to be absolutley certain of 100% stability at 2400mhz. Then time to try cranking it up again
hope newegg will give me my money back for a defective PSU
If you lookat the picture I quoted you will see a 165 with a 11 x http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=75263Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
So, how does one get a 11x on a 165?
Luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
Hehehehe yes thats exactly the right answer.............LUCK !!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
Clint, nice one :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
Can you please post a grab of your memory settings in cpuz and A64 Tweaker
Thanks ...
ps - what did I miss about Clints cpu? i am 311 HTT Stock ... I guess the 170's 10x makes it look nicer :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
For a internal clock of 270MHz on the sticks :
Command Per Clock (CPC) - Enable
CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 3
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 4 Bus Clocks
Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 8 Bus Clocks
Row precharge time (Trp) - 3 Bus Clocks
Row Cycle time (Trc) - 17 Bus Clocks
Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 24 Bus Clocks
Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 4 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time (Twr) - 3 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 2 Bus Clocks
Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 4 Bus Clocks
Refresh Period (Tref) - 3684
( Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - Auto,1 )
DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled
DQS Skew Control - off
DQS Skew Value - 0
DRAM Drive Strength - 6
DRAM Data Drive Strength - 1
Max Async Latency - 08.0 Nano Seconds
DRAM Response Time - Normal
Read Preamble Time - 06.5 Nano Seconds
IdleCycle Limit - 256 Cycles
Dynamic Counter - Enable
R/W Queue Bypass - 16 x
Bypass Max - 07 x
32 Byte Granularity - Disable(4 Bursts)
Sticks on 2.5v
Since I took off the IHS I had to put the sticks in the yellow slots and are having problems with certain dividers.
It could also be the missing "thingie"...:p:
There will be a full monty screenie when I've sorted that out.
First time under phase, had that multi available. Never had that multi under water... either the board, or the cold did it I'd say. Either that or testing lots of different RAM prior to putting phase on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
Oh and a sh*tload of luck :toast:
my first overclock and first system build, now that the broken OCZ modstream PSU is gone I am finally getting some results
2800Mhz air cooled dual prime stable for two hours
what do you guys think of my temps, are these okay? Do you think the chip will do 3000?
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6...post3xp.th.jpg
At idle temps are only 29C for this frequency
NO, its a terrible chip, swap it for my 170 :D
doublepost..
Hehe, don't give it away bro...we wanna see you rip that hat off:D
Spank it some, that maybe will do it...:slapass:
...it's just materia folks, just materia..(and a few bucks..hehe)
Whattaya all reckon, should I try mounting the XP-120?
Kinda dodgy, right?
I just can't have the BT in a vertical position, to much stress on the chip.
Water gonna take a while and I must get back to work/studies...so things must be cleaned..can't have cables and mobos and whatnot all over the desk :rolleyes:
Has anyone mounted the XP-120 on a naked dualcore?
When are you gonna put your 170 under better cooling, Clint? Are you getting water?
Yup, still looking for a good solution...Absolute_0 gave me a few pointers...seems hard to get hold of that G4 storm though...Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
..do you have any suggestions?
They have Storm Revision2's now, expensive tho, but they are in stock. Jab-tech has them, idk if they ship internationally.
http://www.procooling.com/index.php?...icles&disp=131
Try this Clint. :)
If you are going water cooling theres no point in not getting the best which is DangerDen
On the other hand, this is one of the best air coolers around - http://www.tuniq.com.tw/Cooler%20Info/Tower-120.htm
I'm sorry but Storm > anything Danger Den. What do they have... TDX and RBX...
Storm is the best.
But have a look at that Alphacool Nexxxus Xp which has the next lowest delta t for less than the price of its competitors.
Then again look at my sig,im biased.Albeit for very good reasons :)
woot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
I was there a couple of days ago, must be fresh!
Gonna order that and ask if they can grab that evercool crabcooler somthing, must have on the pwmic if above 3GHz.
How about a chipcooler, kinda overkill..aint it?
BTW, the XP-120 is on now...did have to cut some plastic, cut a piece of the alu-coolsink where the heatpipes goes.
I have maybe 2C higher idle and load, but now I can use the orange slots..the yellow slots gave me all kinda trouble on dividers if dual.
I have maybe 1mm space between the cooler and the inner stick, guess I wont be changing that for a while..
...did worry there for a moment if the memcontroller had packed and gone, tired of the abuse...but all is working fine:p:
Thanks, that is a sure bookmark..:)Quote:
Originally Posted by thebeast
First error! happened on core 1 :slapass:
the temps in picture are at idle for about one minute after the error
temps under load were: 46C CPU, 60C PWM IC, 43C CHIPSET
Why would this happen? Not enough volts? Too hot? I pointed a fan towards the PWM IC area but apparently it is not working too well...
[img=http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8448/topost23xh.th.jpg]
Before this dual prime session I ran 3dmark05 and got 12,173 :D
should I be worried about the full load temps?
The "magic" number to stay under is 44-45C under load, you will have to find the combo of voltage and cooling to get the right temps...very important.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
Sometimes I get better stability if I lower the coltage..
You need to cool the PWMIC as well...not over 50C...at least I have seen a better stability then.
you are absolutely right! :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
So you are at 311 HTT with your 165 UPMW just like me? I am trying to see the highest the cpu will go with my retail air cooling system, how high have you gone?Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
What bios are you using? I am using the 704bta2
now @ 312HTT AUTO voltage in BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
this is not the highest of course, but I prefer staying at default voltage.
2.84GHz is the max. stable frequency under default, so I lowering it a bit to 2.8GHz for daily usage.:woot:
that is a very sweet OC for a 165'er, congrats mate:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
Nice clocks for an UPMW on autovoltage Kenofstephen.
Very nice and more counts that you reached it on Aircooling.
Congrats.
Sure! I am quite happy about that. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
I think i have some problem with my system, i have direct die on my system.. my system is msi neo2, patriot xblk, 6800gt,opty165,wd250sata2..
Vcore default my opty goes too 2850mhz, with 1,44 goes too 2950, but i can´t go up more stable, its not strange??
More one thing, my friend have a 3000+@2950mhz with machgt2, in my system i can´t go up 2700mhz.. the cpu temps with the both direct die´s is about the same.. someone can help me?? thkx
You thikn shoving1.68-1.71v through my CPU for about an hour will do any harm? (for benchmarking)
Temps will probably skyrocket even with water and I doubt you'll get much gain. Also always remember that DFI boards overvolt ~.03v on load despite what CPU-Z says. I tested with a DMM and it's always exactly right (within 1-3mv) on idle and it jumps 30mv on load
That said, it probably won't do any harm as long as you don't go over ~60C
My Opteron 165 CCBWE 0530TPMW with removed IHS and lapped Freezer 64 Pro can't do more than 2.55GHz without lots of extra voltage. This speed alone takes 1.45v. Core 0 seems pretty terrible whereas Core 1 has quite the headroom.
I've discovered that 2.60GHz is outside of this thing's realm without 1.55v or so. 2.55GHz however is prime stable for 12 hours (it never errored) at 1.45v! 2.60 will error within 15 minutes. Crazyness. Tried just about every combination of BIOS settings and underclocking of the rest of the system. No go.
I have noticed that it appears the core itself is convex and that an area around the center is in direct contact while the outer parts of the die are not in as good of contact. I actually started to lap the core last night but stopped because I was going to have a friggin heart attack rubbing sand paper over that core. Heart pounding core sanding is too much for me lol.
I ought to pull the heatsink off and see if the few mins of lapping I did do helped at all with contact. Doesn't really matter though cuz it's not clocking any higher.
How much can you take off the top of the core BTW??
Ive got access to surface grinders at work,i might give it a go. :D
why risk it?Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
maybe he will be able to climb a few places up the benchmarking ladder?Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
a $400 dollar CPU is a small price to pay for your moment of glory at the No.1 spot in some random CPU benchmark contest............................. LOL!!!!!!!!! :p:
1.7v on watercooling won't kill anything :slap:
Same here with the Amd retail heatpipe and fan. I got another UPMW cpu here but this one has a much lower batch number of #0069. I am not sure what board I should get with it ... any ideas?Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
What bios are you using on your 311 HTT 165?
Have you tried lowering the MEMCLOCK Freq to 1 / 2 and see how far the cpu can really go?
got me a new Opteron 170 today:
CCB1E 0550VPMW
1387678L50358
currently at 1.5V(bios)1.456V(windows) 2.8Ghz
33C idle
48C load
this is using a XP90 w/panaflo fan
**I do have a SI120 HSF but metal brackets that hold fan down are rattling so back to XP90
Hmm..that is alot more vcore than most have reported on the 170 0550 VPMW 678L50xx...did you get this from Dave@Flickerdown???Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
can it do 2.8 at lower vcore???
your other 170 is better IMHO much lower vcore @2700
Most 170s have to jump an invisible wall to make it to 2800. I think his real vcore is somewhere around 1.52v (DFI overvolts by 10-30mV, despite SG readings). It does seam high, but then again, everyone here reports cpu-z/SG vcore so he's pretty much on par. Have you tried lower vcore or high speeds?Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
I have tried both I am able to boot at 1.325V (bios) 1.280V (win) at 2600...this is with IHS still....and room temp is about 22C (72-73F)...I see alot better out there....I have also noticed that the 0550UPMW and the 0550VPMW seem to run hotter than most of the chips I have tested....albeit only 4 different steppings and batches those 2 are the hottest...I bought chip from a guy on Ebay...unopened retail etc....
***Right now I am running 1.4V(bios) at 280x10 in windows but if I prime both cores fail almost instantly...temps are idle 30C load
***Update I can BF2 no problems at all with current settings but not prime for $hit.....
got my last pair of DDR today
A-data Vitesta DDR566 512MB *2pcs, which has been EOL in the website.
could anybody tell me how to play with this toy?
thx!;)
it is the original DFI BIOS dated November 2005.;) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
My CBB1E 0550 VPMW does 2.88 Ghz at 1.440 in windows (1.425 + 102.4%)
My 170 CCB1E 0550VPMW is 2.8Ghz dual prime stable at only 1.31V smartguardian reading 1.35V in DFI BIOS.
CPU temp under full load maxes back and forth in range of 39C-41C.
I think the heat problems I started having before when trying for 2.9Ghz were because everything was overvolted. This chip does not seem to need too many volts.
When I tried for 2.9Ghz the chip was set at 1.425V in BIOS, RAM was set at 2.8V. My guess is this was too much. Everything got really hot. After about an hour I got dual prime errors on core 1.
I just ordered two Delta brand 190cfm fans for the case. Hopefully they won't make me deaf, but with these and turning on the A/C in my apartment I hope to reach 3.0Ghz. (ambient temps no good in Texas)
Also when I found this one there was another 165 CCB1E 0550VPMW from the same batch with it so I bought both and it is still factory sealed. I think it may go on Ebay sice I am happy with this 170 :D
Ambient temp here in north of Sweden is -22.2 °C and a humidity of 67%...time for some airbenches...:D
LOL...temps here today were 72F with a low of 46F.....:toast:
Its been above 37C here in my loungeroom for the last 4 days, even hotter outside :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
Bah! ...I did try a quick bench but the XP-120 doesn't perform as near as good as the Big Typhoon on higher volts:(
Now with the core off I can boot into windows @ 3.15GHz on 1.5volts...prime fails after 5 min due to temps over 50's.
When I have water on this baby I will do 3.2 stable on 1.6volts or so....;)
...37 degrees...nice and warm, I would swap with you any day ;)
I've finally settled my chip at 289x9, 1.45v in BIOS, as don't plan to remove the IHS, and to get 2.7 it needs 1.55v, 52c 2xprime load, defenitely not for 24/7.
The good part is, my BH-5 can run with 180 divider, 260mhz 2-2-2-5-7-16 with 3.5v without problems (this summer I will drop the divider to 166 -> 237mhz if heat is a problem)
I've got an OPTY 170 0550VPMW on the way! ( from flickerdown )
Hope I will receive it before the weekend, I need a new toy this weekend! Currently I don't have spare CPU som I've only got my laptop..
I will report here how my OPTY does..
at least by many reports around not just here...the 170 CBB1E 0550 VPMW have been hitting 2800 at lower vcore(1.4v bios settings in so many reports at AT, XS, Flickerdown)...Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
I realize idle vcore is lower than load vcore on the DFI ultra-D/SLI-DR
but this stepping had been doing well..are people reporting accurate how do I know?
Other steppings I agree 100% 2800 was taking 1.5v+ in most cases
Here is mine :)
opty 170 ccb1e 0550 vpmw
1387678L50266
no memory and gpu overclock
just cpu overclock (volts and fsb)
so far more will come
i need advice for better overclock
thank you in advance :)
Barracuda..many have reported the chip does better sometimes on a lower vcore
Ouch, that is to much vcore..I'm sure you can lower it .1 volts and still get the same clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barracuda
ok ill try to do lower temps and ill report
still can't prime or run 2 instances of super pi but can loop 3dmark05/06 and play games fine....to me that is what is important....if I was into folding or doing quantum psyhics for nasa that would be different...
Hehe, very true..it's your preferences and yours only that dictates what you consider stable enough:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
Be careful, if you find a lot of setup .cabs or downloads corrupt you'll have to revise your OC. I thought like you before, but was a PITA to try to install something or use any of my emule downloads :D
Just recieved my opteron 165 ccbwe 0551 Wpmw i ohave only tried her under low noise water, and i was able to reach 2,7 ghz duel prime stabel.
Well then popped the IHS to se its true color and darn what a butie just gained me 100mhz, a iam doing 2,8 ghz duel prime stable now and i can easely bench at 2,9ghz now this is a bang for the buck
I was able to do this with 1.45v, but i put it to 1.48 and let it run overnight to show how stable it is :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...l/a2fcc38f.jpg
Sweet clock mate! :toast:
I wish I had the WC here, so sweet clocks and low temps:slobber:
Get some watercooling mate. An easy kit that actually performs really well is the Swiftech Apex, see if you can get it over in Sweden.
BTW aren't your temps better? You did remove the IHS. Mine is aching for IHS removed, i can smell 3.1+ Ghz prime stable after that ;)
I got both better stability and lower temps when removing the IHS...only thing I chipped off one of those capacitors...did look that up though..they are for preventing electromagnetic influence...no big deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Rip that lid off, I wanna see some serious 3.1GHz+ clocks:slap:
Gonna go for water for sure, lotsa things cooking right now though.
I am quite sure now that in order to harness full potential of these 0550VPMW's you need to be water cooled....like you need a sweet spot...temps wise
Could not agree more, I am still testing my new Opty, however, this chip is a much better overclocker than my FX57 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
Trying to find that "sweet spot " .
ok I am toying with the idea of watercooling and do not know the 1st thing about it..other than If I get a leak I am FUBAR...LOL...anyways what would be the BEST watercooling setup for me....I am not a complete bafoon...so if it is time consuming and complex that is fine. I have been reading about the Swiftech Apex and also Koolance...I want the BEST watercooling setup I can get my hands on what would it be?
Uhm
Cathar G7, some kind of 200$ Iwaki pump, BIX3 or something... three 120mm x 38mm high quality fans on a fan controller, all 1/2" ID and 3/4" OD tubing.
think im gonna pick up a 165 to add ot my collection once i get my watercooling setup. Im selling ym laptop so i shouldnt have a problem money wise. LOL! 3 processors, its a pricey hobby!
does that come in some sort of kit? keep in mind I am new to this..
...on the subject of w/cooling for Dual optys,somebody help please:)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...65#post1319665
this any good?
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swh2licokitr1.html
No, that's got a weak pump and a single 120mm fan radiator.
Go to the watercooling section, those guys will hook you up with the best. We'll try to keep this strictly on Dual core X2s :)
is the cpu block in this kit:
http://www.modthebox.com/review432_5.shtml
the same as this:
http://sidewindercomputers.com/swstunhipebl.html
ok sorry...you seem to know what you are talking about should I start a new thread or just pm you?
Hey, you guys with naked CCB1E 0550VPMW's- how much did it lower your temps? I'm thinking about removing IHS with mine, but I'm concerned with mounting a big typhoon on it in a vertical position.
Right now, with 1x cpuburn and 1x prime95 full load is 41C in 25C ambient. I was 5 1/2 hrs prime stable (at least, I stopped it then) at 2772 with these volts but now only 1/2 hour *cries* I wonder why? I think even a 3C temp drop would get me another 30MHz or so. I figure I could try this before taking the plunge for watercooling
PS I've already removed an IHS of an X2 3800, while stoned out of my mind after getting my wisdom teeth out :D :rolleyes: so I don't think that will be a problem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I had this happen...very strange..ending retweaking memory settings but I beleive this issues are software not hardware related
Have you added software, tweaked software etc
LOL, if you'd call reinstalling windows tweaking software :p: I will go mess with some RAM timings now, one thing I have changed is drive strength/data strength to 3/3 from higher values. These seem stable though, Source after 3hrs hasn't crashed on me :confused: I'll mess with it a bit, and then if I get some responses from naked 0550VPMW owners I'll remove IHS
well switch back the drive/data strength
Whats a good way to lower temperatures on the PMWIC and CHIPSET other than water cooling?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
for PWMIC:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=90418
for Chipset 2 things:
1.http://www.techtastic.ca/reviews2/tw...ga-cooler.html
2.move video card to 2nd pci-e slot
here are temps right now:
http://www.badongo.com/pic.php?file=...ow.jpg&s=black
Hanging that 800grams metalpiece with that leverage on that narrow mounting in a horisontal line, that is the perfect reciept for chipping the core.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I wouldnt even do it if the IHS was still on.
I've now a XP-120 on my naked core, did a small tutorial on how I did it in a reasonable safe way.
The cooler is closer to the Mobo now so the PWMIC gets perfect cooling..no need for extra fan there:)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=91661
Are you using that Evercool unit with those blue fans? The fans look to big for the crab unit ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
I do not think the video card will work in the other PCIe slot, yours isnt int it, is it?
I found these products. What do you think? Will these cool the PWMIC and CHIPSET
http://www.fragtek.com/sxram_expert.html
http://www.fragtek.com/sxram_expert_ram.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
didnt help me much. I run a BT with a panaflo 120mm, so it is heavy in a vertical case.
No problems, the cores seem really strong. However, my temps didnt improve much. I wouldnt do it again. Chip just runs hot in general
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
those products would work fine....blue fans come with evercool....card works fine in 2nd pci-e slot just have to move sli jumpers down...
Received an Opteron 170 yesterday (stepping: CCBWE 0548 XPMW), removed the IHS today and installed it on an Asus A8R-MVP.
It just finished running the first stability test, Super PI (32M) @ 290x9 = 2610mhz with 1.3v, load temp was 35° (it's watercooled). Now it's time for Prime95...
Seems like a good chip, going to push it harder soon... unfortunatelly the A8R-MVP can't give it more than 1.45-1.5v, but I'll vmod it when I have time.
Damn, thanks guys, not what I wanted to hear though :( Meh
PS running the B T vertically with IHS on is perfectly safe :)
Go search for my posts w/ Big Typhoon or TTBT, shows how I did it. Just have to do a couple of things and be CAREFUL. I on the other hand call the XP-120 'the core nibbler' since it made nice shiny dust of the edge of my CPU. For best performance, you DO want to compensate for the torquing by compensating w/ support from above or below, whichever is easier.
Only thing about going IHSless is fact that core is slightly convex, so final mounting adjustments need to be done while looking @ temps in bios (or you can lap your core to flatten it like I do :eek: :D )
Lastly, you should lap whichever sink you use (If you haven't already) since I've had both and they were BOTH notably concave, bad match for bare or IHS. In fact if you haven't done that, try it first, since you can usually drive a truck though the machine marks on the bases... (Gain back a degree or 2 there :D)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I hit 2.73ghz prime stable w/1.55v on my 165, but I've hit a wall.