There's nothing TO do... :(
and no, the probe mobo temp is for Southbridge - ICH7R
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There's nothing TO do... :(
and no, the probe mobo temp is for Southbridge - ICH7R
trfc matters again :dammit:
So, how we measure NB temp?
Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Hi, Asus state, in their q&a, that the motherboard sensor, unlike other manufacturers, is placed at the hottest point of the motherboard.
So believe that if you will..
ChrisC
Hi,1707 here ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...20DH%20Deluxe/ no idea what it might fix. It may well be the same as the unofficial 1705...
ChrisC
i havnt checked this thread out in quite awhile but i was wondering if there have been any good bios's released as im stuck @ 3.42Ghz with 1.48 Vcore on my E6600 havnt primed @ that setting either just ran benchmarks
i have a rock solid 3060Mhz 1.36 Vcore but would like to get higher clocks to run benchmarks and such
so any decent bios's (possible one that unlocks the multi down like the P5B does?)
Cheers
Anyone have the problem where your system hangs when entering the BIOS flash utility ? I'm on 1602 BIOS and the system is not overclocked.
Don't use the Bios Flash Utility!!! BE aware!!!!
Folks, I need some help in here. I'm trying to get 3.2GHz stable to use on a day by day basis but to get this I need 1,475v. Isn't that too much?
http://img276.imageshack.us/my.php?i...3208ghzzq4.png
vFSB, MCH and ICH at minimum, PCI-e = 100, PCI = 33.33 and Performance Mode = Turbo.
At least my memories are good. Their running 890 @ 4-4-4-13 with 2,15v :toast:
Looks good Viper.Br... Vcore is no problem...
I get the best results with vMCH at 1.55V up to 430MHz fsb.
@ 1.60V I can reach 440MHz, but not more :mad:
(rest of the settings are the same as yours)
MCX159cu on the northbridge...
Keep your ram 1:1 to find the highest cpu-OC...
How do you get fsb like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by OneyedK
Do you use active NB cooling?
Can you send me some BIOS screens?!
Nothing special... (bought the motherboard on the 15th of august, so it's an early revision) bios is 1707 atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malk4vi4n
cpu: E6400 retail boxed
cpu-cooler: cnps9500cu (silent mode)
nb-cooler: Swiftech MCX159cu (active, silent mode)
sb-cooler: lapped ASUS stocksink with silent Papst 120mm blowing towards it (diected on the intake of the X1900XTX stockkoeler, those mosfets get hot)
Send me your e-mail-address in pm, will take some pictures from bios tonight (not at home atm). Will 400MHz do? (24/7 folding setting) or would you like to see the bencheable edge???
From Asus website ...
P5W DH Deluxe BIOS 1707
Support Intel SpeedStep in Vista
Update JMicron option rom to 1.06.63
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx
Hi, it only hangs if you have a HDD connected that is using NTFS. This is not supported, simply disconnect the HDD cable and you'll have access to FAT32, CD drives, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix_TT
It works fine, I went from: shipped bios -> 1602 -> 1705.
Cheers.
I'm sure it's worked ok on previous BIOS revisions with NTFS formatted HDD connected.
Anyway I can update the BIOS using a DOS floppy or from Windows.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
Hmm.. never noticed that :/ I thought the big gold looking block was the heatsink...
There any guides of removing it and putting a new heatsink on?
Nock yourself out ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Malk4vi4n
Bios screens @ 440MHz
(screen below is taken with settings in bios above)
http://users.pandora.be/kastaar/HO/A...00benchmax.JPG
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ght=p5w+deluxeQuote:
Originally Posted by Timmaah
Quote:
Originally Posted by OneyedK
How did you get 4gb of 512mb xms2-5400UL to fit in your mobo? LOL :eek:
this thread may be of some help for some
Thanks OneyedK. Iīll use the 1:1 tip and later will post the results.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneyedK
yeh that's why there's a link to it on the front page of the thread ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
Bios 1707 didn't do anything in the oc appartment for my part, still stuck at 400 fsb.
Does the Jmicron update do anything for anyone?
Take a look...maybe this may help ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gascogne
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=126620
Hello all,
I've o/c my E6600 on my P5W DH Deluxe and I'M wondering if everything seems fine...
My settings are:
vCore: 1,35V
vMCH: 1,55V
vFSB: 1,40V
vDIMM: 2,2V
vICH: 1,05V
PCI Express : 105 Mhz
PCI : 33,33 Mhz
E6600 @ 3,00 Ghz 333 FSB
Mushkin XP2 PC2-6400 4-4-3-10 (1,9 - 2,1V) @ 500 Mhz (PC2-1000) 4-4-3-10 2,2V
Temps:
CPU : Idle ~34-35 Full ~44-45 (Cores : 45-62 Idle-Full)
Mobo : Idle ~34 Full ~40
Everything is stable with Orthos for 10 hours+ dunno if the voltages seems fine I'm scared to push it too more lol
I gotta change my CPU cooler since it's still the stock one...
Any input appreciated :D
Simon
Thanks to everybody who contributed to this thread:) The info. is top notch!!!http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6316/4ghzfk5.pngThank You!!!:banana: :banana: :woot: :banana: :banana:
S1mon...
i think your temps are great for stock air, and feel that giving the cpu more voltage will be ok.
BUT...i would only go to about 1.40-1.425 till you obtain a better HSF.
raise your vmich to 1.65
intels temps are much more tolerable than AMD's.... your good to the 60's temps and many run them even higher than that, though i prefer not to.
im running on water so i run my volts as high as 1.6 testing but use 1.475 24/7 with load temps in the low 50s.
so give it more voltage ( 1.425 )and try the "systool" overclocking utility, watch the temps using "coretemp" which by the way will show a more precise temp than the asus probe.
use the ICS954123 generator in the drop down menu, click find max ...and let it run......
Well i ripped those covers off (while everything was still connected to mobo), so wasnt too easy and system temps still seem to be the same, if not higher by 1°C, so i think i may buy one of those nb coolers soon and attach it to the nb.
Wasnīt able to boot above 390 yet :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Viper.Br
No matter what I set (auto, min or max values) on MCH, ICH and FSB I just canīt boot over 390 and thatīs freaking me out! :mad:
Tried loading higher vcore but still denied.
Whoops, sorry, OCZ Platinum Alpha VX2...Quote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
Anyway, nb seems to need more voltage to drive 4x1GB than to drive 2*512MB.
Bios was 1707...
I am using the latest Intel Chipset...maybe that will help ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Viper.Br
Tried everything I could find there but I can't get over 400 fsb no matter what I try it seems. =/Quote:
Originally Posted by DAK1640
Another problem I have had for a long time now is when I select shutdown in windows my system just reboots and when I select reboot in windows the system doesn't reboot.
Anyone else with same or similiar problem?
Could you link us to the latest Intel Chipset drivers?Quote:
Originally Posted by DAK1640
Thanks, Iīll give it a try.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAK1640
Thanks flashnc :)
Can you just apply/install the new chipset drivers? I read somewhere that you needed to do a clean install???
The problem is that .exe file only works after a fresh install. You have to extract the .exe file or download the zip file then manually update nearly all the device profiles in Device manager in order to do it right.
OT-
:mad:
I am not getting email notifications again on posts for this thread, anyone else have this issue?
Is it because I have not posted for a day or two?
sparx
Is there risk involved in doing this (installing new chipset drivers without a clean install), or is it just a pain the a**???
Im still getting them and I havent posted in a while, besides this message. maybe send a message to the admin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
same here i pulled em both off and used AS5 and my mobo temp is still at 51cQuote:
Originally Posted by Timmaah
No point reinstalling intel "drivers" really..
They only enable stuff like usb2.0, they're not real drivers. Windows xp runs fine without them you know..
P5WDH (MCH 1.65 version)- BIOS: 1707 - QX6700 @ 3.0G
- BIOS: 1707 installed
- mild overclock, all is nominal and working fine
man someone buy my board it's sitting here doing nothing...lol
holy cow man my mobo temps are approaching 53c im seriously getting frustrated w/ this, Should i maybe consider liquid cooling?
with air cooling on motherbaord i was able to get to 390fsb. With liquid cooling chilled down to about 3c i was not able to go up 1mhz higher ...so dont expect much from liquid cooling this mobo.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1stMIchris
Could someone answer this please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hajpoj
i used the zalman 9500 with this board and it was fineQuote:
Originally Posted by Hajpoj
i still use it with my asus striker too with no problems
Quote:
Originally Posted by Babsy
I actually meant the FSB/mult settings more importantly, any Ideas?
Check the stupid southbridge sink, it is so NOT FLAT that it does more harm than good. It took me half a day to lap it...Quote:
Originally Posted by 1stMIchris
I use a silent 120mm to blow over it... (MB-temps are measured in or near the southbridge)
400x8 is better... making more use of the ram though so you need good/decent ones, I'm currently running on 400x8 and using a CNPS9500... runs cool and fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hajpoj
This may seem an odd request, but can anyone see if they can boot at 415fsb?
I'm having some ... odd issues with it ....
t
I can't boot higher than 400fsb.. :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by taemun
lol thats gotta suck ... nah I can boot perfectly with 414, 416-430+ etc .. but 415 ... well if someone does it :)
t
Quote:
Originally Posted by taemun
I guess its another bug of this mobo. I asked that problem several post ago, and I have no answer.
I also canīt post at 415.
It doesnt matter to me, Im not even orthos stable at 400
Need some help guys.
No matter what I set on bios for vFSB, vMCH and vICH (all at minimum, all at maximum, all combinations or all at auto): every time I up fsb I have to up vcore and vdimm at the same propostion or it even post on bios;
No matter what I set on bios for vFSB, vMCH and vICH (all at minimum, all at maximum, all combinations or all at auto): my fsb wall is still the same 390 and it even post on bios above this (no matter the multi, 7x, 8x, 9x...);
Did a quick test with vdrop to check if my processor needs a lot of vcore but I was able to reach the minimum Asus alows me: 1,2250v (2,4GHz, 266x9). And itīs 100% stable with this vcore.
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/9...4ghzlt8.th.png
On time: I always let CPU Thermal Control Enabled even with the low temps I get.
Stable results per clock with respective vcores*:
2.40GHz (266x9) -> 1,2250v
3.00GHz (334x9) -> 1,3625v
3.10GHz (345x9) -> 1,4125v
3.20GHz (356x9) -> 1,4750v :eek:
3.40GHz (378x9) -> 1,5125v :eek: :explode2:
Me -> really frustrated and confused :brick: :dammit:
That's because you have a week 23, your results look the same as my week 24... except I need more volts to reach 3.4ghz than you
older weeks used a lot of vcore. My week 24 needed 1.575v set in bios to run 3.6
I had a week 26 that performed similar to that ... cept it literally required 1.6V for 3.4GHz .. needless to say, its moved on to greener pastures now.
What I've been getting with 415FSB:
73MHz x9 = CPU clock or 657MHz.
http://picasaweb.google.com/taemun/C...88193663234978
Also seen 666MHz and 675MHz (didn't get camera out, this was previously)
It won't boot into Windows. Windows logo screen comes up, and thats it. Lock.
WTF @ 415 FSB = 73~75MHz CPU clock?!
t
Thanks folks. I thought I was the only one with that problem but, you guys with older weeks have fsb wall at ?
I am going to load it up and see just what it will or won't do for me.
http://rapidshare.com/files/7657312/P5WDH1707.zip
WZ
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viper.Br
week 24, fsb wall at 393 with vcore of 1.52v iirc
Not possible to set multiplier above 10 with QX6700 in this BIOS. Back to 1506... :slapass:
I have been running this all day. Right out of the gate I booted up at 427fsb with my memory set on the 1:1 and my timings 3-3-3-4. I have been rendering video most of the day while we were out cutting down our Christmas tree. Got home just in time for the video to finish up. I have never ran this fast for this long with these settings with any other Bios. 1305 was good but this is a first!! It has now been over 4 hours and it is all good. It is still early but, I am very impressed so far with all this new found stability.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...la/cpuzfun.jpg
I run this speed and higher quite often but, never this stable or for this long.Maybe at long last asus is getting a handle on this Deluxe? board.
As you can see in the post just prior to mine. But I am running a Conroe not a Kentsfield and for me the 1506 was pure garbage.
Your results may vary.
WZ
Just a small note fellas. I just tried a lap job on the southbridge. Motherbaord temps have dropped 10 degrees if u guys wanna give it a try, it seems to help.
what is your settings in the bios? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
What did you lap the HS or the chip?Quote:
Originally Posted by Severance
I must have missed it are you running 1305 bios version?Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
YES!!!! It fixed the stuttering/sluggish computer response while transferring files to any hard drive connected to the internal or external SATA connectors.
No I am running the 1707 bios. This has been the first good update since the 1305.
I've read as much as I possibly can and tried just about every suggestion listed here.
My scenario is I have slow posting problems. The system isn't overclocked at all, and most of the settings are left at default or auto, or disabled.
Bios 1602
Raid0 2 drives, I've tried every single combonation of putting them on different sata ports, no change. I use a USB Keyboard (G15) and a USB Mouse (Microsoft laser), and my Dell 2405FPW is connected via USB as well for the card reader.
I've disabled all the Q-Fan stuff in the bios, disabled the 1394, disabled the Jmicron, and just about anything else that isn't used, and same results.
It posts super slow .. it sits at the Initializing USB blah blah ... and just sits ... then finally it displays the memory and poof from then on it's lightning fast, just a slow post. Once it gets past that, the machine flys, no crashes, no instability, nothing .. just takes forever to post.
Anyone have any additional ideas? I can't think of anything else to try.
EDIT
EDIT
EDIT: I fixed it ... it was the Card Reader on the Dell monitor. If I unplug that from the USB, it posts super fast. Stupid as hell, but whatever.. at least I know what it is now.
-F
i have heard that the ich7r is faster than ez-backup in raid 0?
can anyone show me some benchmarks, or tell me your personal opinion/experience
i have it in raid 0 now, with the ez-backup, wanting to know if it would be better to put it on the intel one or anything?
Quote:
Originally Posted by brock01
yes, unfortunately i can confirm this...
i had two raptors that i put on the ez-backup....and i noticed my HD Tach hard drive benchmarks were slower than some other machines with the same raptor...
then i plugged one of the raptors in the intel SATA port and it benched normally...
here was the difference:
~70mb/s average
~79mb/s average
pretty big difference
do you think it would make a diff if i put these ( http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...Code=101220-12 )
in the intel port instead of ez-backup, i have them in raid 0
i get about 89-90avg in HD Tach
Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
what do you think is the difference in bios 1707 that helps your stability?
are there any differences you can see in the menus?
does is set tRFC to a different value so you can boot with higher fsb?
i have used 1305, 14something and 1602 and i still haven't seen any difference in the tRFC default TIGHT setting, that prohibits me from booting at >394mhz fsb (memory 1:1), however, once in windows i can use memset to set tRFC to 42, allowing fully STABLE operation (prime95 with large and small ffts) up to 417mhz so far with this chip and memory...see my sig
and if i don't use memset to set tRFC to 42, increasing the fsb in windows causes instability and crashes
here is my sig...as it didn't show up before
and by the way, thank you all in this thread who helped me fix this tRFC issue, allowing me to exceed 378x9, all the way to 400x9 stable!
Sorry I am not sure yet what is up with this new bios. Along with Christmas tree hunting it is also my 28th wedding anniversay today so I have been unavoidably detaned....... I did do a quick 1M super pi thisevening just to see if it would run it at this speed. then I went back to being the dutiful husband.
Hey gotta go get ................
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...lla/1707pi.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by brock01
funny you should mention them....i have the 320gb version of these drives (2 of them, BUT NOT IN RAID) and I DID try them in the intel and the ezraid sata ports and compare HD tach benchies...
i think i found that the read burst max throughput of the 320 was much less (like 90mb/s versus 165mb/s), but the average was actually about the same...53.5 vs. 55 mb/s (not as much difference)
so i suspect your 250 wd-ks's would have similar results as my 320 wd-ks's...although i don't know what the RAID performance is in each set of ports...you should be able to switch them and try, no?
but, there is no doubt that the raptor's average throughput was severely impacted by the ezraid port (as a single boot drive...even with no raid setup)
The EZ-Backup ports are on a port multiplier. They come off what would be SATA 2, so they share SATA 2's maximum theoretical 300MB/s. It is also my understanding that NCQ doesn't work on the EZ ports. I haven't used the EZ ports myself, but I have read reports from others that in real-world use they are substantially slower.Quote:
Originally Posted by brock01
IMO, wasting SATA 2 for the EZ-Backup ports was a design mistake.
I am using the EZ ports for a raid 0 configuration with 2 WDa 160GB and I am very happy. I haven't done any benchmark speed comparisons so I can't give you numbers and I'm not about to reformat my system so I can put them on the ICH7R just to compare.
I have been using RAID 0 for some years now and it is the most usable configuration I've had to date. No drivers needed for DOS / windows setup / ghost / etc...
Most importantly, there are known issues with users running Adobe programs, such as Photoshop and Acrobat Professional because of the protection scheme the company uses. If you have your windoews installed on a raid array based on ICH7R (or ICH6R, ICH5R, ICH8R for that matter) these programs keep wanting to reactivate almost every time you run them. This is because they use sector 32 of the hard disk which is normaly not used for anything, to write activation data. With ICHxR raid, for some reason, they seem to think something fishy is going on and demand re-activation. Not so with the EZ Raid. Very usable!
There's no point comparing single drive speeds, it is obvious that a single drive will function faster on the ICH7R because the data only has to go through ICH7R while on the EZ Raid it has to go through the EZ Raid chip and then through the ICH7R. Comparissons have meaning only for raid arrays.
As for the 2 disks on one SATA2 port issue, I wish there were any 2 sata disks with >300MB/sec combined throughput so they could be impeded by this design.
Bottom line, there are always bound to be differences from one controller to the other and for different HDDs. Just because one test (or even all of them) were slower on one controller it doen's make it a crappy one. There are always other things that should be taken into account besides speed.
Photoshop/Imageready fine here on ICH7R Raid ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pol1977
is it possible to boot from usb pendrive in 1707?
thanks in advance.
Im wondering is there anyone who is running 400+ fsb on air? It seems most people are using water who are able to run 400+ fsb or am I wrong?
I can confirm i have the same bug as you.
414x8= 3,312 Mhz
415x8= 6xx Mhz (Six Hundred!!!):slap: :stick: :slapass: :fact:
416x8= 3,328 Mhz
Nothing else changes on BIOS.
Please can someone else confirms this?
I'm on 1503 Bios.
I was running 9x400 on air stable and even higher for benching but now I´m on Vapochill LS an 9x435 stable :D .
BTW! 1707 lets me set memtimings manually again! I have not been able to do that since 1305 but dividers still don´t work :( It would be great to use my PC8500 mem to the max....
I have a serious problem with this board now. I can't get it to post any more, there's no beeps, all fans are spinning. I'll try to give a small history of what I've done with the board since I got it, and I hope someone can give me some advice to get it working again.
- When I first got the board, I used the stock intel heatsink as well as a Asus EAX1900XT card.
- I changed the stock heatsink for a Thermaltake Big Typhoon, and was very happy with the results.
- I bought a Powercolor X1950 crossfire edition to run crossfire. I started getting lots of problems here, I would get reboots, and the system would not run properly with two cards. With one of the two cards in, there where no problems.
- I installed a Thermalright HR-5 northbridge chipset heatsink. I had to cut off the heatpipe that was attatched to the original heatsink, and I used the Asus clip from the original heatsink. This was a very tight fit, but it did fit. After doing this, crossfire was working great. No more reboots.
- I replaced the Big Typhoon with a Thermalright Ultra-120, and fitted a fan on it. I wanted the Ultra-120 to point towards the fan at the back of the case, and this made it an even tighter fit with the HR-5. At first, I couldn't post, but I wiggled the HR-5 a bit a couple of times, and then I was able to post and everything was fine.
- But after a couple of days, I started getting some weird problems with my PS2 mouse. The mouse would freeze for a few seconds, or sometimes it would jump around all over the screen clicking by itself.
- I tought this might have something to do with the northbridge, so I took everything apart, cleaned off the old thermal paste, and replaced it with some fresh artic silver 5.
- After putting everything back together, the board wouldn't post. I wiggled the HR-5 around in different positions, as this had fixed the same problem before, but this didn't help this time. I tried removing and replacing thermal paste several times, but it didn't help.
That's about it. I'm starting to think I've screwed up the board somehow. If anyone has some advice to give me that would be great. Otherwise I think I'll just have to buy a new board :(
You can boot from pendrive in all bioses :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by martin_ezz
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=147750
I'm able to boot up @ 435x9 but windows crashes since this is a higly unstable Oc... I have all my volts maxed out... Anyone willing to send me a better clocking E6600 for free :p:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2...GT/th_Cpuz.jpg
You need to wiggle around your nb cooler to get it to post? and you still continued to use it?? :slap: IMO that's a little bit stupid...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pluppo
I did have my Adobe apps request reactivation once when I changed something (can't remember what it was now--maybe a driver update), but after reactivating it hasn't happened again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pol1977
Well this sucks... the moment I place my Ram @ 900mhz it won't post
but I can post @ 450FSB with the Ram @ 4:3
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=147761
Asus has gotta give us more Ram Options since my Ram is capable of 1100+ on the Asus P5B and 1200+ with the BFG 680i
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis_GT
I Dont think is you CPU that is holding you back, you have reached the limits of your board.
Its the CPU... I can't even get it stable @ 3.6 with 1.55v and I can boot my board all the way to 450... and this is the only board that has been able to keep my CPU @ 3.8+ for benchmarks...
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mutt
Is it now possible to set all mem timings direct in the bios with the 1707?
Has Asus attempted to unlock the multiplier? I just flashed to the 1705 bios, and under cpu configuration i found this: "cpu multiplier status, unlocked. Maximum 20, minimum 6" or something along those lines.
Problem is it doesn't work. I tried 9x on my e6400 =/
it only shows 6 to 20 first time you boot with a new bios, second time it will show you the proper multipliers you can use. AFAIK the allendales have locked multipliers.
Ok, thanks Timmaah. I was so excited when i saw it though :p
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/7682/untitledow1.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Gascogne
VCore: default
FSB Termination: default
vMHC: 1,85v :slobber:
VDimm:2,05v
using everyday, with this cooler:
http://www.verycom.com.br/produtos/p...=P775-05C922H3