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06-19-2005, 05:05 PM
JNav89GT

set tref to auto
all other settings to auto in ram timings except cas, trp, trcd and tras

data drive at 7, data drive strength to 1
bypass to 16
06-19-2005, 10:00 PM
fareastgq

Quote:

Originally Posted by PicaXuu

A friend of mine is having big trouble to get the Redline 4000 working at 250 2-2-2-5 with a 3500+ Caa2c...

He have already tried bios 510-2 and 510-3 with these settings:

2-2-5-2-7-15-2-2-2-2-3072-01-enb \ incrase scew-0-8-1-07.0-05.0-256-enb-16-7-dis8

Everything he tried, he gets errors on Memtest Test 6...

Any suggestions ???

Thanks,

don't use 510-anything, use the newest one (which was just posted above about), or use the old one 2-17, I haven't tested any other ones, so I'm only advising on what I know works (2-17), and other ppl have been getting the new bios to work. Also, what I haven't heard, anyone else getting any other bios to work, so........ have fun :)
06-20-2005, 03:32 AM
jiff

Quote:

Originally Posted by PicaXuu

A friend of mine is having big trouble to get the Redline 4000 working at 250 2-2-2-5 with a 3500+ Caa2c...

He have already tried bios 510-2 and 510-3 with these settings:

2-2-5-2-7-15-2-2-2-2-3072-01-enb \ incrase scew-0-8-1-07.0-05.0-256-enb-16-7-dis8

Everything he tried, he gets errors on Memtest Test 6...

Any suggestions ???

Thanks,

drive strength is wrong try 5 and 2

here is all my settings@ 265 3.4volts

1.5-2-5-2-7-15-2-2-2-2-2064-1-enb-inc-0-5-2-6-fast-5-2-256-enb-16-7-dis4
06-20-2005, 06:41 AM
Sauron_Vie

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiff

I cant believe it :confused:

I flashed to 618-2 What can I say it WORKS :banana: :banana:

I am eating humble pie, I have said all the way along that this is a chip issue looks like I have been proved wrong.

This wasnt a cold boot problem as Ram crashed while pc was idle, i tryed every trick in the book to get this stick to work. When I reflashed to the above bios bang back to 265 @ 3.4 volts.

Sorry OCZ and Mushkin for being a doubting Thomas, at least I wasnt totaly wrong I did say that Voltage spikes arent killing Ram ;)

Where can i get this ? 618-2 ? Bios ?? :confused:

big thx
06-20-2005, 07:00 AM
jiff

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauron_Vie

Where can i get this ? 618-2 ? Bios ?? :confused:

big thx

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/114
;)
06-20-2005, 07:03 AM
Sauron_Vie

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiff

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/114
;)

Big Thx ;)

maybe my sticks will get alive again with this Bios. :D will let u know. :toast:
06-24-2005, 06:44 AM
gelatinousfury

Don't know if many have seen this yet but the 5x512Mb dual pack of the redline pc4000 is only $189 at Newegg :)

Ordered myself a gig last night :toast:

clicky
06-24-2005, 07:33 AM
TEDY

wish my friend could order them :)
06-24-2005, 03:19 PM
zbogorgon

Could sb tell me if Mushkin Redline has Aluminium or Copper Heat Sink?

i couldn't find that info anywhere, but i'd like to know, cause i have some copper HS at home and i don't know if i sell them or not.

don't have rams yet.
06-24-2005, 03:20 PM
=[PULSAR]=

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbogorgon

Could sb tell me if Mushkin Redline has Aluminium or Copper Heat Sink?

i couldn't find that info anywhere, but i'd like to know, cause i have some copper HS at home and i don't know if i sell them or not.

don't have rams yet.

Aluminum
06-24-2005, 03:43 PM
zbogorgon

Quote:

Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=

Aluminum

thx man,i thought so, cause copper isn't that frequently painted red.
but that's kinda bad, but on the other hand good, i could use my heatsinks.
06-24-2005, 05:49 PM
computerpro3

Just wondering,

Has anyone with a Zippy/Emacs or a pc power and cooling experienced random UTT death?

I wonder if it could be psu related at least in part....
06-24-2005, 06:09 PM
dippyskoodlez

Quote:

Originally Posted by computerpro3

Just wondering,

Has anyone with a Zippy/Emacs or a pc power and cooling experienced random UTT death?

I wonder if it could be psu related at least in part....

as far as I know, UTT death is from too much voltage, and the IC unable to handle it... CH cant handle the same as BH, and im sure not 100% of the BH can handle 3.6v like the old stuff, so PSU shouldn't have much of an effect, aside from steady rails.
06-24-2005, 06:34 PM
computerpro3

Quote:

Originally Posted by dippyskoodlez

as far as I know, UTT death is from too much voltage, and the IC unable to handle it... CH cant handle the same as BH, and im sure not 100% of the BH can handle 3.6v like the old stuff, so PSU shouldn't have much of an effect, aside from steady rails.

The steady rails is what I was wondering about; more specifically the golden rule of always keping the lines <200mv above vdimm less LARGE and RAPID fluctuations. The majority of psu's dont practice 1% regulation, even if they are spec'd for it, and I'm wondering if rapid vdimm fluctuation resulting from rail fluctuation could have something to do with it.

PCP&C and Zippy simply don't fluctuate, and I don't recall seeing anyone with those psu's have a death, so It was just something that dawned on me....
06-24-2005, 06:38 PM
EMC2

Actually... PS can have an effect... particularly when it comes to noise and noise spikes (or the absence there of), when you're running something on the edge.

Regarding root cause of most UTT deaths... jury is still out. Some were initially thought to be dead because of the cold bug issue... some were likely killed due to the DIMM slots being powered at cold-boot on DFI nF4 before the MB is turned on and peeps swapping memory in that condition -- especially when faced with the no-boot cold-boot issue because of the low Vmem being applied (fixed in BIOSes 61x)... some were likely killed because peeps applied V to them like they were old school BH5... I suspect there are even some that might have had the data I/O pads fried due to too tight timings on Rd-Wr turnarounds... then there are some that are yet unknown...

Peace :toast:
06-25-2005, 11:09 AM
Radek

http://members.chello.pl/xt/BH6_s.JPG

2 x 512 MB KVR333X64C25/512 Winbond BH-6 ;)
Add me to the list bachus, please. :P
06-25-2005, 11:49 AM
TEDY

for god sake radek this is WRONG THREAD !!!
06-25-2005, 01:16 PM
dippyskoodlez

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEDY

for god sake radek this is WRONG THREAD !!!

and its extremely hard to read that screenshot. :stick:
06-26-2005, 05:56 AM
Radek

Sorry folks. ;] I made a mistake... forgive me. ;]
06-26-2005, 10:48 AM
stealth17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radek

Sorry folks. ;] I made a mistake... forgive me. ;]

you can edit the post and delete it since its yours :stick:
06-27-2005, 02:27 PM
PanMaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack

Mine do 250MHz 1.5-2-2-8 @ 3,3V real, Memtest no errors and 270MHz 1.5-2-2-8 @ 3,5V real pifast stable :)

it seems almost everybody is doing 250MHz @ 3,3V and at least 260MHz with more volts.

unlucky me, stuck at 240Mhz, getting memory read errors at 250Mhz in chessmaster
2-2-2-5-7-15 timings
I'll risk using this 618-2 bios, maybe
06-27-2005, 05:21 PM
stealth17

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanMaster

unlucky me, stuck at 240Mhz, getting memory read errors at 250Mhz in chessmaster
2-2-2-5-7-15 timings
I'll risk using this 618-2 bios, maybe

what ldt multi? please post the rest of the options in the dfi bios order and ill see if i can help. also, voltages for everything in the system
06-28-2005, 12:41 AM
Jack

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanMaster

unlucky me, stuck at 240Mhz, getting memory read errors at 250Mhz in chessmaster
2-2-2-5-7-15 timings
I'll risk using this 618-2 bios, maybe

yes, like stealth said, show us your A64tweakers settings and give us your Data strenght settings. Which mem slots are you using, orange or yellow?

Give us more info and we'll help you out :)
06-28-2005, 07:14 AM
PanMaster

I would greatly appreciate the help.
At 240Mhz I use these settings:
YELLOW memory slots
LDT/FSB 4x
LDT BUS 16/16
PCI EXPRESS 105Mhz
CPU VID START/CPU VID 1.425v
SPECIAL VID CONTROL 110%
LDT 1.4v
CHIPSET 1.6v
DRAM 3.2v
DISABLED 0.3v setting
timings: as appear in the BIOS 2 2 5 2 7 14 2 2 2 2 auto auto enabled auto 0 auto auto 7ns 6ns 16 cycles disabled 8x 4x disabled(8 bursts)
I have used the same but with looser timings and a higher DRAM at 250Mhz which failed.
http://www.zen12084.zen.co.uk/settings.JPG
06-28-2005, 07:31 AM
Jack

some things you could try

1. Set Idle Cycle Limit to 256.
2. LTD to 3x
3.+0.03V to Enable

what are your drive strength settings?
and which bios are you using now?

I'm using the orange slots, since they gave me more stability at higher clocks :)

did you try JNav89GT's settings?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JNav89GT

set tref to auto
all other settings to auto in ram timings except cas, trp, trcd and tras
try idle cycle of 16
try drive strength of 7 and data drive strenght of 1 on bios 510-2
tras of 6

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