Arrgh... I've been cutting for at least 45 minutes now, still won't seem to come off :( . It's not soldered, it's a socket 939 x2 3800+ from 2005 week 43. Any good tips?
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Arrgh... I've been cutting for at least 45 minutes now, still won't seem to come off :( . It's not soldered, it's a socket 939 x2 3800+ from 2005 week 43. Any good tips?
Go around the edges slowly a few times. Push in fairly deep, and you'll feel the surface mounted SMD's. Pull out a bit and keep going around, being careful not to hit them. If you stop at something hard, its prolly an SMD. Pull out a bit and continue. Once you're finished, grab the IHS and twist fairly hard. The paste can get brittle. Tada.
Oh, I want pix of the finished thing too :p:
Removed today IHS of my sandy 3700+
old 0515SPMW 20c drop
new 0542FPMW 10c drop
This time removed IHS very fast and clean. First one removed with shaking hands and so.
Ok, thanks for the tips. I accidentally chopped of a piece in the edge though :( . I panicked for a second so I threw it into my computer and it appears to still be working just fine :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
Ok, job finished :) . I was happy to see that none of the capacitors were damaged. However, it has got a small scratch. I do believe that happened in the start when I didn't quite managed it :p: . If it happened in the beginning, it should still be functional, as I tested it 2 times before I was finished. I'll test the cpu tomorrow, finally my Storm will come to live! (hopefully :p: )
Tha equipment and job finished :woot:
http://show.imagehosting.us/show/177...-1_1774271.jpg
As you can tell, there's a scratch in the corner there :( . But as a said, I think it still works!
http://show.imagehosting.us/show/177...-1_1774260.jpg
I'll test it tomorrow and hopefully it works :) . Btw, to help prevent uneven distribution of pressure on the core, thus not crushing the crushing the core, will it be sufficient enough to just apply a few layers of black electrical tape in each corner?
Yes, but I never did that when I mounted anything on my naked dies. Didn't need to.
If you feel more comfortable doing so though, go right ahead. :)
One thing you want to check after you get it remounted is to make damned certain your heatsink doesn't hit the zif socket at the cam block, I got lucky in the fact that mine didn't but different motherboard manufacturers may use different parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by granulf
Easiest way to tell is just lay your case down and set your sink so it's balanced on just the core and see if you can slide a piece of paper under the sink but over the zif socket cam block. If it hits, you have two choices, mod the heatsink using a milling machine and cut a small ledge in the sink, or put the heat spreader back on. If you put the IHS back on, can likely find some high temp silicone sealant down at home depot to do the job.
As for your previous question about the storm block, I don't have any clue as if it will work after remounting, it's pretty much up to you to figure that one out.
Yeah, I'm aware of that problem. But I don't think my dfi expert is affected. If it is I'll throw the crap out off the window and buy a laptop first thing :)
What do you use to "re-glue" the IHS after lapping it and applying new thermal paste?
I didn't remove the IHS when I lapped it, just held it with the plastic clamshell that the processor came in with the piece of foam double back foam taped inside so it wouldnt keep falling out.Quote:
Originally Posted by andlcs
Point is rather moot now tho, IHS gone :)
If you're feelin real risky people have sanded down their actual cams. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniper_Merc
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Originally Posted by NickS
LMAO!!! Hadn't heard that one yet, but I suppose that there is probably a good .020 to .030 worth of plastic there before hitting anything that would affect the cam mechinisim.
Just glad I don't have to personally find out ;) got a goot .010 worth of clearance on mine.
Edit: BTW, haven't happend to know how to stop XP from downing my CPU voltage to 1.35 when it's not under load do yah? I been doing some more testing and got into windows and ran some benches at 2.9 GHz but that damn core voltage is i think holding me back cause it keeps ticking down, prime fails right off the bat at 2.9 but 2.75 works fine. Though I may just be hitting the limits of my chip here too.
I allready removed the dual core hotfix, amd driver, deleted the throttle entry in registry and removed the /usepmtimer from boot.ini, but damn thing still drops to 1.35 (hell its supposed to be a 1.4 chip anyway)
my naked Venice and Clawhammer both died since the IHS removed
it died after 3 months naked...:D
the venice runs @ 3ghz daily, n the Claw run 2,95ghz daily :D
I've heard of several cpus die after some time for no apparent reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedfighter
NickS: You seem to have removed many. Have any of your cpus died?
Sniper_Merc: If it hasn't already been done; disable cool & quiet.
Already did. No effect. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by granulf
Removed three of my own, and two friends'.Quote:
Originally Posted by granulf
I've sold all mine working cept one which died because I kind of shorted out my motherboard, so that was my fault. My friends' are still alive and kickin' too. :)
Ok, sounds good :) . I just booted up with the cpu now(without IHS), and everything looks good. Dual priming at stock speed, temps 22-23c :D . Yes, I know the sensors are a bit off, but it's still darn good. core 1 is about 30c and core 2 about 24c. Still some difference though, but not too much. Now it's time to start the overclocking :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
So far the lower temps doesn't seem to help at all. I can't seem to overclock any further :( . Core temp is about 15-20c lower on one core than earlier, the sensor called "CPU" isn't changed much. A bit frustrating, but I'll try to burn in at lower speeds and gradually increase. If it won't go any higher at all, I might have to attack my other x2 3800+ :D
I've decided to reassemble the IHS again tomorrow :( . I obviously chose the wrong cpu. This old x2 3800+ doesn't clock as far as my new x2 3800+. So I thought I would put a dab of thermal paste on the core, put some epoxy along the "rubber line" and then just put the IHS back on. That should work ok, right? It's not really needed with great temperatures, it's going to be run at stock speed. Any advices with the reassembling?
Btw, I doubt I'll remove the IHS from the other cpu, as it gave me absolutely NO gain(overclocking wise). Although the core temp dropped a fair bit :)
you should take the top off of the AM2. i bet its just like taking the top off of the core2 procs. just cut the silicon around the IHS, then torch the top :) off she comes.
Easier said then done. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by buttmud
Sometimes the solder between the core and the IHS melts BEFORE the solder between the core and the CPU PCB, too.
Who have got an AM2? I haven't seen anyone mentioning AM2 :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by buttmud
I just popped the lid off my other x2 3800+ with great results indeed. Chopped off about 20-25c during load! (core temp)
Btw, the second time everything went perfect. Last time I scratched off a bit of the green pcb material, but this time it was just a clean cut through the rubber :)
Grat'z :)Quote:
Originally Posted by granulf
Ta, now I'm just waiting to receive my Corsair HX620W, so I finally can reveal what this chip is capable of. :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS