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interesting.
have a couple diffferent ideas for my new watercooling loop and I am not sure of which setup or pump I should use. I also already have an mcp600, bix 1x120mm, and maze4 and will be cooling an e6600 rig in a mm ufo case.
1) 1 continous loop
-Storm Silver G5
-PA 120.3
-Maze 4 (I already have)
-chipset
- water pump choice: mcp 600 (I have another and would put them in a series)
Option #1 would only cost around 40 bucks for the pump and would give me the extra 100 bucks or so to buy a G5. If I am not mistaken this would give me the most amount of headflow with the least amount of heat into the loop. But with the pa 120.3 would the extra wattage matter and would I benfit from more headflow that puts out more heat? With that said my other options...
2) 1 Continous loop
-Swiftech Storm
-PA 120.3
-Maze 4 (I already have)
- water pump choice: dual D5, dual ddc+ ultra, rd20, md20
If I get any of these pumps in a series or an Iwaki I would get a Swiftech Storm instead of a silver G5. I know the silver G5 only outperforms its brothers by 2C but it would be awesome to own such a piece that is made with aerospace machinary (This is the only time I would pick novelty over function) But back to the point...would it performance/price be better if I opted for any of these pumps. I have an iwaki pump that we use for a pond and I love how they are built like tanks which is why I considered them. The rd30 is out of my price range.
3) 2 seperate loops for cpu and gpu
For CPU
-storm silver G5
-pa 120.3
- water pump choice: D5/mcp650, ddc+ ultra modified top
or
-Swiftech Storm
-pa 120.3
-water pump choice: rd 20, md 20, dual d5, dual ddc+ ultra modified top
For GPU
-maze 4 (I already have)
-single 120mm bix (I already have)
-mcp600 (I already have)
option 1 looks very good if you can find a G5 for sale. dual 50z/MCP600 is a *very* low heatdump and one of the best possible pump setups (not sure how it compares to DDC+ ultra(s)). a PA120.3 will *easily* handle the extra pump. Iwaki MD20RZs are very nice pumps, but 1 20RZ versus dual MCP600/50z is effectively equal; if anything, the advantage goes to the MCP600/50zs. However, iwakis really are built like tanks... :)
if you did do option 1 and wanted to watercool your chipset, the MCW-30 is hands down the best choice for chipset cooling, as it's flow restriction is so incredibly low
I do think the dual ddc+ ultras would push near the 30rz performance but so would the price tags. I figure it would be around 220 for both compared to 40 bucks for two mcp600's since I already have one. I know the mcp600 dont have the super high headflow but the low heatdump really puts me over the top. I sitll have things to cosider but with your comment I am leaning towards the dual mcp600 even more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloody_Sorcerer
Sorry for my long absence...Quote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
I'm not sure, what should I buy. What I heard, the DDC ( not DDC+ !!! ) produce too much noise, the D4 Basic seems to be quiet ( I uploaded 2 tracks, 2,35MB, from some i-friends: D4 10-0-10cm microphone-pump, DDC 10s on open case, 10s by pump, 10s on radiator with fans, 10s Samsung HDD ).
So I'm unsure. D4 Basic is +-quiet, has more power, but costs 800CZK ( ~ 35USD ) more. I think, the DDC has enough power for my W-C ( Viscool bloks ( COU + GPU ) and Alphacool Nexxxos Pro III radiator ), but it's realy bawler...
Can those MCP350/DDC pumps be mounted fine vertically too for prolonged usage? ie the top pic as found here:http://www.systemcooling.com/mcp350_mod-04.html
Everywhere i've seen has them mounted flat.
Nox
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Originally Posted by nox_uk
Sure...
http://www.3dxtreme.net/other/ontap/...x/IMG_3331.jpg
http://www.3dxtreme.net/other/ontap/...x/IMG_3327.jpg
cool, thanks - no excuse not to get mine sorted now then...
Nox
I've had mine modded and side mounted for well over a year and have never had a single problem. *knock on wood* It has been supplying both my CPU and GPU, both overclocked without issues. Granted it is likely I can find something more efficient and newer on the market but why bother unless it is a radical departure from what I have now? I would not dare to remove something that isn't causing me any problems and has performed so well. It is quiet, keeps my temps down and doesn't leak or cause other problems. The mod was straightforward if you follow the instructions.
The worst thing about vertical mounting of a DDC is that u lose the top inlet... ;)
what mod :D that entire part of my DDC has been replaced by a lump of perspex which I reckon has pretty much the same effect when you swap the bleed/inlet connectors,
I'm now just torn between neatness and efficiency on the outlet of the proper reservoir...
Nox
Is MCP355 better than MCP655 in terms of performance?
the MCP355 or DDC Ultra/DDC+ is a higher performing pump ...unmodded it has 3/8in intlet/outlet barbs...not preferred size for manyQuote:
Originally Posted by marauder16
so if modded with an alphacool top with modded/unmodded top inlet or Radiical top, perfromance is outstanding... excellent head pressure and better flow rates, lower heat dump and noise..than almost all pumps out there except a few..eg. Iwaki RD-30(this is the King of the Hill)
thnx nealh for the replay! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
your welcome...Quote:
Originally Posted by marauder16
Hey i am looking for a decent and not very expensive pump for a single radiator, and choosing between 3 cpu blocks.
MP-05 Pro CPU Waterblock
White Water - LE
or maybe the Apogee.
Which one pump more better? DDC or Eheim and how to recognize batch DDC because at my place most DDC and D5 will dead after using around 1-2 month.
Eheim are good for fishtanks... :p:
I think it should be a STICKY and very nice review
hi 2 all, i've 2 questions:
1st - what is better RD30 or Laing DDC?;
2nd - which of those pumps can work in the reservoir with water (like submersible pumps)?
1. the RD30 is over 2x as powerful.. but it costs about 3-4x to set it up with the dedicated psu.
2. neither, and its a horrible idea to submerse any pump in the res.
submersible pumps gives more heat dump for your loop, not a good idea...
septim, why? doesn't water cool the pump?
it does.. but all of hte heat the pump produces goes right into the water. if you ahve the pump out of the water it goes into the air and NOT into your loop. Having hte pump heat go into the water raises the water temp and hurts performance. Besdies the pumps were designed to work outside of hte water and will NOT overheat.
on the guide, you should put a caution when buying a MCP355 or MCP350 cause they tend to fail or stop working.