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10-03-2008, 01:34 PM
Ket

I might have to try that.. I like 703m on my P5Q Pro but I also like using the most updated BIOS possible... of course I'm willing to sideline that pet peev in order to get the best OC possible :p:
10-03-2008, 01:45 PM
Lukeatluka

I booted at 1166 now, but i think this is not my maximum.I didn't test stability, just hit fsb, 5:8 and 2.2V on 5-5-5-18.On more than 1166 didn't boot.Like it didn't on 1306 asus higher than 1148 :(
10-03-2008, 01:56 PM
Fitseries3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

The pack contains modded BIOS files for all P5Q series boards using code before asus added CPU Margin Enhancement.

ALL P5Q series boards huh? but not the P5Q3 DLX that you keep shunning away from.

not being mean here but i know of several people that have made the request for the p5q3 bios to be modded. it would be great to see it happen.
10-03-2008, 01:57 PM
Ket

1166 is not anything to sniff at. Without knowing whay memory you have its tough to give a ballpark max. OC, but it sounds like you have average kind of memory, and its doing very, very well all things considered :toast:
10-03-2008, 01:59 PM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitseries3

ALL P5Q series boards huh? but not the P5Q3 DLX that you keep shunning away from.

not being mean here but i know of several people that have made the request for the p5q3 bios to be modded. it would be great to see it happen.

I don't shun away from it, I just can't be bothered to mod BIOS code for that as well. Besides, people know when I say for all P5Q series boards I mean DDR2 versions. If the archive was for DDR3 versions it would say for all P5Q3 series :p:
10-03-2008, 02:01 PM
Lukeatluka

I have Teamgroup pc 6400 extreem dark cl4 x2GB kit.I know it's awesome to have 2x2GB on 1166, but i think this is not all they can do.
10-03-2008, 02:35 PM
Ket

Depends on the voltage. If your at 2.2v I doublt higher voltages will yeild results much better than that.
10-03-2008, 04:39 PM
Dee

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Originally Posted by Ket

Never said you were ;)

OK, a little misunderstanding. I still love you Ket. ;)
10-04-2008, 01:15 AM
nigelke

Ket,
i have a quick qeustion for you :)
I own a P5Q deluxe and having problems whit the normal bios'es. Like i cannot change anything because i always have to clear cmos. It won't boot after changing like a voltage,fsb..

Sow i was hoping that a bios of you could help me out. but are they 100% safe? like i don't want to kill my mobo :D
10-04-2008, 03:25 AM
Dee

They are safe except for the latest ones, which I believe he took down.
10-04-2008, 03:38 AM
nigelke

ah good to hear :)
this is going to be a litle job for next week i think :-)
10-04-2008, 03:53 AM
Dee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

In my case perhaps its not a bad thing though, occasionally I was getting the CPU fan error message pop up on POST, so looks like the CPU fan sensor was starting to go out already :eek:

Ket, I get the "CPU Fan Error" message all the time using BIOS 1402. My CPU fan is on PWM mode and Q-Fan is enabled in BIOS (set to Turbo). Do you think it's something to do with a flaky CPU fan sensor or something else? It only seems to happen with certain BIOS and with Q-Fan enabled. If I flashed back to 1306 the problem would probably disappear. Only thing is now I'm getting tired of all the BIOS flashing, I don't think it's healthy to keep doing it.
10-04-2008, 04:46 AM
Ket

I had the CPU Fan Error coming up from time to time with Q-Fan disabled, so I think its an iffy fan sensor.
10-04-2008, 05:11 AM
CryptiK

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Originally Posted by Ket

Uh-oh.. Cryptik.. its one of "those" people :p:

lol, guilty :p:

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Originally Posted by xdan

This feature with dual bios chip is named "DIEHARD BIOS"

Dee, it isn't all about the money :yepp:. This feature is only from what i verffied built on P5Q-E, P5Q-DELUXE and P5Q3-DELUXE.
The more expensive models like P5Q-PREMIUM, P5Q-WS, MAXIMUS II FORMULA(i check only for P45) don't even have this, even though that there are worth much moore money. This it's all ASUS's fool ideea. In my opinion this feature "DIE HARD" shouhld have been applied to P45 series from P5Q-PRO to the top MAXIMUS II FORMULA not to a few models "here" and "there".
P5Q-PRO is not a cheap MB at least to it's price. :down:
The conclusion it's that Asus are stupids, fools company.:down:

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Originally Posted by Pntgrd

Asus even went one better on The Rampage Extreme. Jumpers to manually set which of two bios's to boot from.

The Maximus II Formula has 2 removable bios chips, and also has the jumper which allows you to choose which chip to boot from. It's a nice feature. They just call it Bios flashback rather than diehard bios.
10-04-2008, 06:42 AM
Vektor67

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Originally Posted by Ket

I started investigating why the P5Q-E mBIOS was so flaky by using the P5Q Pro version on my board, I started with just a couple name changes and went with that, then POW, no POST. So I'd say its pretty safe to say these AMI BIOS files don't like having things renamed, regardless of how harmless renaming an item is. That said though my board was acting up very slightly by taking ages to POST before the flash. All the usual has been done, full CMOS reset, swapped RAM with various other kits etc, nada. So to be on the safe side I'm yanking the last set of mBIOSes.

Their further modified, but theres some very weird issues, so DONT use those files.

Whew! Thanks, for once I'm glad that I missed one of your revisions as up until now I've faithfully flashed each since 1306m, 1402m was great for me and 1403m was even better. I wasn't following the thread as closely as I could and I was wondering what you guys were talking about regarding the renaming issue as I was 99.9% certain all my sections still retained the same
names. I get it now. It's a good feeling having the backup bios on this board
I feel fairly safe flashing with impunity. I look forward to the next update. Thanks for all of your good works.:up: Lord knows were I relying on Asus I'd still be unable to use the built in flashing utility with my NTFS partitions being stuck on 1306.:down:
10-04-2008, 07:03 AM
Ket

I wish asus would hurry the hell up and get a 1403 out for the P5Q Pro, its not a tough thing to do. If I knew what asus were doing in those 14xx revs. I would make the changes myself. Kinda crazy to think that lil me all by myself has released more BIOS revisions than asus themselves have, and their better than what asus can do to boot :D
10-04-2008, 08:14 AM
truehighroller

My fan sensor was bad on my last P5Q Deluxe that I sent back. This one seems to be a good one for sensors. The engineer said that we need to set the margin enhancement option to performance for our 9450s but, he is still getting issues at the same time so,, not to stable IMO. I could have sworn that I set mine to that and I still had the issue. Maybe not , maybe I'm getting old and forgeting things. :shrug:
10-04-2008, 08:47 AM
Ket

I doubt that m8 ;) engineers have an uncanny ability to spout utter BS.
10-04-2008, 10:19 AM
truehighroller

True,, not matter what he says works he still said that he was still getting issues with it set to performance, with seeing hard drive in Windows and shut down issues so.. Apparently someone, not saying who was working on a bios version with the option taken out yesterday. I'm still possitive we will see the option removed if they can't get it to play nice.
10-04-2008, 10:26 AM
samsonJS

I haven't noticed a difference with or without cpu margin enhancement on my q9450. And to be honest my OC is basically the same with 0704 and 1402. The biggest difference is 0704 only reads fat32 and 1402 reads ntfs as well, but misses my usb stick so one BIOS only reads flash memory and the other only reads my disk. heh.

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Originally Posted by Kai Robinson

I figured out my issue - having the Mem OC Charger, DRAM Static Read Control & DRAM Read Training set to Auto = flaky as all hell - set to DISABLED on the P5Q-Deluxe!

I disable those too, except for the OC charger which really helps my p5q-e push my mushkin ascents further.
10-04-2008, 10:42 AM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehighroller

True,, not matter what he says works he still said that he was still getting issues with it set to performance, with seeing hard drive in Windows and shut down issues so.. Apparently someone, not saying who was working on a bios version with the option taken out yesterday. I'm still possitive we will see the option removed if they can't get it to play nice.

Yeah I'm glad the english speaking techs at asus at least are listening. If anything I would say that English>Taiwan language barrier is the biggest holdup :p:
10-04-2008, 10:46 AM
truehighroller

True and at the guy that is fine right now, just give it time you will have the issue once it burns your stuff out. Mine was fine to for awhile and other people were fine for awhile as well that are now in same boat as me.
10-04-2008, 03:35 PM
Ket

I'll back that up, my system with my E4400 started to act a bit iffy so I rolled back. CPU M-E effects any C2D\Q it seems.
10-04-2008, 06:34 PM
ghost_recon88

So the 703m BIOS is buggy and causes your board to die? What about 901m? Is 1306m the best one? I currently have the Asus 1306 on my board, but I'm gonna flash it to 1307m assuming the 703m and 901m BIOS are flawed.
10-04-2008, 07:39 PM
Vektor67

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehighroller

My fan sensor was bad on my last P5Q Deluxe that I sent back. This one seems to be a good one for sensors. The engineer said that we need to set the margin enhancement option to performance for our 9450s but, he is still getting issues at the same time so,, not to stable IMO. I could have sworn that I set mine to that and I still had the issue. Maybe not , maybe I'm getting old and forgeting things. :shrug:

I'm not 100% certain my fan sensors are working correctly, how did you determine your sensor was bad? what made you notice? the RPM's ?

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