!UPDATE! abit AW9D-Max (retail) arrived

It seems it is possible to run some games at 420fsb, regardless of Orthos blend failing at 400. Basically you can pick your own poison. As a generalisation, if you edit lots of large files, have important data etc, you will probably want to stick nearer the 400fsb mark. If you play games and just use your system for surfing the web and don't mind the risk of a lock up every now and again, you can go for 420 fsb or so with an e6600 at a vcore of around 1.61 in bios. Vdimm between 2.25-2.30 works well with the team group ram at the 420fsb mark.

The heavier games like Oblivion will need testing by the user themselves to find an acceptable point. Generally Oblivion can knock around 10fsb off an overclock that is not Orthos blend stable, but is stable enough for most other games...

regards
Raja

testing 24/7 OC...dual 32M also stable
most critical is vmch at 1.8 - anything lower and all alse fails
board unmodded - yet :rolleyes:
vcore: 1.4
vdimm: 2.25
vmch: 1.8
strap: 1066
bios: alpha-13
ram: Team Xtreem ddr800 micron D9GMH

thanks flytek, that's about the max I can get to for orthos..

I wonder if anyone has managed much higher in torture/blend in Prime/Orthos??

seems no one is able to go much over 400 if at all...

Though 420fsb seems to be ok for most programs to run without a hitch...

regards
Raja


edit just seen that you're on the 8X multi, on the 9X multi 400fsb is even more difficult with a E6600 (that's the real sticking point)....

So far the longest I could run orthos blend without failure was 2 hours 52min. The orthos failures after periods of time are much like the P5W DH was when more FSB voltage was needed & not set to auto. I'll keep at it, but hopefully that & ich voltage options will get added in future bios releases.

Testing 1.3 beta bios.

12 multiper
http://www.conman.se/x6800/12xliten.JPG
http://www.conman.se/x6800/12x.JPG

13 multiper
http://www.conman.se/x6800/13xliten.JPG
http://www.conman.se/x6800/13x.JPG

14 multiper
http://www.conman.se/x6800/14xliten.JPG
http://www.conman.se/x6800/14x.JPG

15 multiper
http://www.conman.se/x6800/15xliten.JPG
http://www.conman.se/x6800/15x.JPG

Everest membench:
http://www.conman.se/x6800/3,6400liten.JPG
http://www.conman.se/x6800/3,6400.JPG

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So far the longest I could run orthos blend without failure was 2 hours 52min. The orthos failures after periods pf time are much like the P5W DH was when more FSB voltage was need & not set to auto. I'll keep at it, but hopefully that & ich voltage options will get added in future bios releases.

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good observations, that does seem to be the difference, hopefully we'll get those options to push the board a little further....


regards
Raja


edit out of interest this morning I tried the 4:5 divider with 395fsb and 2.30 vdimm (enough vdimm for that speed), 1.9 on the chipset, the board would boot but crashed the minute I tried to run BF2...

uppler multiplier unlock on 13 bios... nice :toast: :banana: :woot: :clap:

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Originally Posted by tictac

uppler multiplier unlock on 13 bios... nice :toast: :banana: :woot: :clap:

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Now... Habemos board :toast: :toast:

EDIT - nm I misread.

Where can I get the new Beta BIOS 1.3 for the Abit board? :confused:

Ultrazauberer - it will be realeased once it is beta.. at the moment it is still alpha.. a week should do it.

raju - i was not attemting for max OC at 400..just looking for a nice 24/7.

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Originally Posted by flytek

Ultrazauberer - it will be realeased once it is beta.. at the moment it is still alpha.. a week should do it.

raju - i was not attemting for max OC at 400..just looking for a nice 24/7.

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no worries..

I was just looking for someone to break down the 400fsb 9x multiplier wall for 24/7 use.:)

regards
Raja

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Originally Posted by raju

no worries..

I was just looking for someone to break down the 400fsb 9x multiplier wall for 24/7 use.:)

regards
Raja

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Hi Raja, do you think if the manufacturer willing to enable the 1333 strap will solve all these issues.. :(

:clap: to you guys who trying hard to test the MB.. i'm looking closely to this MB

Hi,

well the 1333 strap is quite slow clock for clock in comparison to the 1066, so you have to go a long way higher in fsb to equal the performance in most cases.

TBH, the 400fsb wall is more for people who rely quite heavily on their pc and need a good guarantee that it won't crash when they are running important software. For gamers and casual users they will be able to push higher and get away with it.

To date I have nothing bad to say about this board at all, from a general market perspective (and as someone neutral we do have to take that into consideration), the layout could have been better. I'm just comparing to similar priced boards, so that more average users get a feel for the boards capabilities too. Xs have in excess of 30,000 members and not all are real die hard overclockers. For the ones that are, this board is quite good to have fun with benching, I have fun with this too, you can fool around at low latencies with high fsb's for super pi runs and that's a nice hobby for some. Hipro has shown some nice results for those people.

I have tried to show some results for more everyday people, so this thread is more complete for the whole XS audience, it's just a matter of picking your poison - about what you want to see from the board.

I certainly don't consider myself an authority, there are far better overclockers here than me.

Hopefully we'll see more threads like this here in the future so that everyone can participate and get the information they're looking for, without arguing at all, as has been shown very well in this thread.

regards
Raja

I've repeatedly said this is a nice board, but thus far not superior to the P5W DH. And even the P5W seems to be last on Asus's list of boards to get fixed. Now that I've changed my chipset cooling the board boots @ 440FSB easily but still struggles @ 445FSB. Once a more mature bios is created that gives the voltages options I mentioned earlier, & more control over the memory timings, it will be an awesome overclockers/tweakers testbed. For everyday users or serious gamers, etc., I'm still leaning towards the Asus P5W, especially after asus releases a bios that allows more memory settings & fix the power down thingy. I will be posting just above 400FSB 4 hours orthos stability shortly.:)

Thanks Nemesis looking forwards to your results, good work...

regards
Raja

Failed @ 3+ hours 404 FSB:rolleyes:

yeah she don't like much more than 400fsb tops...


maybe hard mods will be the way to go....

regards
Raja

My system is 100% more stable @ 405fsb then @ 400 fsb :fact:
Ram @ 1:1 and 1.3 bios.

400 fsb 1:1 is less stable than 405 fsb 1:1?

my board won't run 4:5 above 395....

regards
Raja

Right now,I am running orthos for 3hours and 23 min.@9X410 with 1,5 vcore/1,8vmch(real with hipro's mod)/2,3vdimm(just to be sure)@4-4-4-6 with supertalent PC6400 C5 1:1.
CPU and chipset are watercooled.
How many hours would you like me to leave it Raja?

Hi Phil,

I like 8 hours, others like 4 so it's up to you. Unfortunatley none of us have hard mods installed yet..

Whatever you choose, please include a memset shot with your final results, so that other users can compare the secondry timings too.

Obviously watercooling on the chipset does help...

thanks for the help

regards
Raja

Ok I ll leave it till the morning.I ll post results tommorow.Happy to help.
P.S. 3hours 45min till now blend testing.

[QUOTE=raju]400 fsb 1:1 is less stable than 405 fsb 1:1?

Yes less stable @ 400 than @ 405 :fact:

Hi My friend.

makes no sense to me, unless the memset secondry timings are more relaxed at the slightly higher fsb...

You have to understand that when you make a statement like that, keeping it short will not help everyone. Some kind of elaboration is required as to why.

:fact: this is not always enough:D

Thanks for your input and I hope you can shed some light as to why you find 405 more stable than 400.

I'm not doubting you, I trust your statement, some people need help in overclocking a little further past 400, so we are helping others in essence to obtain something higher..

regards
Raja