those values are great.
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those values are great.
Could I possibly lessen the voltage requirement with a nice burn-in? Anybody got any tips for burning in?
Hey kenofstephen,Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
many times our posts are not responded to, its the nature of the medium we are communicatiing through. I think you should learn to be happy with what you have, wanting to hear good things from others is nice, but is this the reason you are posting here? Ofcourse 2.7Ghz @ 1.34v is nice, but if you want some real attention, then you going to have to show some monster overclk, thts just how XS is.
Thts not to say you wont ever get any comments with a 'good' chip, just dont be expecting this, because no-one likes to feel under pressure to give praise, and saying things like ,'I'll better stay away from here' could be seen as a way of putting pressure on forum members to pay you some attention
:(
Be happy with your chip, its a good one, maybe not amazing, but good is still good. If you want it to be better than good, then you are going to have to show some scrennies at higher clocks. Amazing, well, there are not many chips like tht abt, but there a few, Clint's, VPMW is amazing over 2.9Ghz on default voltage, now tht chip will get more attention than a hooker on the game, hehehehe
:)
If Clint's chip were a hooker, i'd give a 10$ bill to see it take it's top off! :toast:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=75263
I have a freaky 165 :stick:
Under Kayl's frozen SS. My first phase and that was just benching at his last night to tune, will push for more with some pi scores and stuff tonight :)
EDIT: CCBWE 0546 MPMW
Wafercharge: 129556AL5
No IHS.
:lol: :rotf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Strange, I've been priming for 2 hours 20 minutes, 2.75GHz 1.44v (1.475 in BIOS). Previously I would require slightly more to achieve this. Although I have upped my LDT, NB and VDIMM by 0.1v, but I'm sure this couldn'tve helped that much really, since extra vcore would get me 2.8 stable. But I'm not sure, anyone think the extra LDT/NB/VDIMM could've helped my vcore requirements? I don't really see how.
Is that kayl as in kayl @ i4memory/OCAU ? very nice clock for a 165 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Nephilim
Hey - how about a 165 on air?
wasn't even pushing it btw
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...l/012fcc49.jpg
This cpu has a proud new owner: Mongoled! He's gonna WC it, expect to see good things.
How many volts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nephilim
1.63 according to MBM5... think that was 1.525 + 113%... will check tonight, saved the settings in CMOS reloaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by masterofpuppets
Yep the one and only Kayl :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
The very nice clock is cos of the very nice cooler, and luck with getting a chip with no cold bug (POSTs below -50C).
The clock wouldn't be possible without that 11x multiplier being unlocked. My board even with copper chipset cooler tops out at around 350HTT or below :slapass:
shhhhh, dont tell everyone my secret :p: heheeeeQuote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
i know USA is very far away, but if you type, 'Ayia Napa' in google you will see tht a trip here would be very nice, I could then buy you a few
:toast: :toast:
And hopefully by then, one of my friends who is studying as a cooling engineer, will have built his first extreme cooling machine (im going to have to introduce him to XS, im sure a few of the pics here will stir his imagination,hehehe)
lol sorry i ruined the surprise. Well screw 3.18, that was untweaked and stuff, if you put it on water with 1.6v and close everything and do the F5/F7 method of screenshotting you should get 3.3 Ghz shot out of it.
Interesting that you're from Greece as i've been reading Greek Mythology for a class and watching a documentory on Troy which takes the narrator all over Greece.
BTW, i want to be a cooling engineer as well! :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
i think i've tried on pages before, just no response:(
Well if tht is your chip then you get a fewQuote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
:)
You feel better now, hehheee
Although the spoken language here is mainly Greek, Cyprus is actually an independant state, I am Greek(English)-Cypriot and Cyprus's main heritage is based on Greek culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Now thts just freaky, hehee, you studying to be a cooling engineer also, i guess we will be seeing some freaky machines some time in the future
:woot:
Looks like a chop up to me, anyone else :rolleyes::eek: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
Yes, 2.88 with stock volts is a "horse of a different color", much nicer ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
I'm sorry to tell you that stepping is not one of those low volts beasts. Mine needs 1.55 to get 300x9 stable at ~50c with TT BT.Quote:
Originally Posted by sowapowa
It scales really bad. With stock volts you can get around 2.55ghz, then it freaks and starts to ask for voltage. Even that, I run mine at 1.55v for 24/7 as I don't plan to have this cpu 3 years :slapass: :D
Same steping here(CCBWE 0551UPMW).. I'm at 1.504v (Speedfan reported, actual is most likely .03 or so higher.) and struggling for 2.76Ghz stable with watercooling. It looks like I may have to bump the voltage a tad more.Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
All in all, however, it's still not a "bad" chip per se, just isn't one of these great ones that absolute and the other guys got their hands on.
dual sp2004 @2.8GHz , default voltage (AUTO) on action, so far so good.:p:
Now don't you go and talk dirty about my baby..:slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
She promised me that I would be the first one to "undress" her...but until she is ready with the proper setup she continues to give me teasers like this:
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3...e0565yz.th.jpg
:p:
..this is in a semi chilled room, maybe 15 degrees...trying to simulate temps that I will see with a decent water setup...if you ( Absolute_0 ) sees 41 load I think this is a fair workingtemp to give somewhat valid indications.
:woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
Mine needs 1.44V for 3ghz .. This VPMW's are amazing chips ..
On water i'm getting 41°C load with 1.44V, so you are looking for the temps under 40 :clap:
Totally agree. Only I get jealous when I see everybody hitting 2.8+ with stock or 1.375v :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Truckchase!
But if you think from other perspective, I got a chip better than an FX-60 (1.025$ at the egg) for 262$ shipped to Spain :banana: :banana:
Sounds great!Quote:
Originally Posted by no_n|ck
Gonna be my first water setup..:p:
I'm gonna plug my "special" OS now and see if that will give me a few extra MHz...I have a feeling it will reward me with some 50MHz or so.
Clint: I wouldn't mind to pay price+shipping+customs if I had your chip.
Really jealous one here :slapass: with his 165 CCBWE 0551 UPWM @ 300x9 STILL not stable @ 1.55v in BIOS @ 50c load :(
Grrr :mad: :D :D
mursaat, go with water damit :D
Yeah, go water...keeping the temp down is essential on the dual...43-44 degrees seems to be somekinda magic numer from what I've learned..if you stay under that I believe you will see a much better clock.
..yeah, I really don't mind either...this chip will take me through -06 at least.
Yes but I've got to choose: 2.8ghz or my girlfriend. Still doubtful :D :D
//EDIT j/k.... dangerden or swiftech? LOL
//EDIT2 I'll try tonight what voltage do I need to max at 44c, then I'll up the HTT. Hope for a surprise. Also I've got my new TruePower 2.0 550w, I think that will help (before a Levicom 420w 3 years old :D)
Is 2906 MHz Dual Prime stable on 1.52 volts good? Temps starting to worry me though. After an hour of prime, they reached 41*C....
previous best was 2808 MHz with 1.42v.
Ofcourse its good, LOL, thts exactly wht i am going to be aiming for. Really KITT, I cant believe you are worrying abt 41C temps, i really dont think u should be worrying abt tht ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
2.9Ghz, is where you are at, and tht is excellent, maybe not Clint's chip, but they hey he got real lucky with tht one, the sod, heheeee :)
-EDIT-
I imagine you are running 323 x 9, wht divider u running? RP & MAL settings? Ive been playing with my HTT speed in preperation for the 165 Absolute_0 has sent me, my board is good for 350+ :)
41°C @ 1.52V is good .. mine is at 43°C @ 1.46V so no worries there ..
btw what amb temps do you have? i have normal 21°C in my room, but if open the window for 5min so the amb temps drop to like 17-18°C i got instantly 38°C of load .. so amb teps play important role here ;)
@ no_n|ck ambient temps are about 17*C
@ mongoled, 3/4 divider as im running BH-5. And yeah, its 323 x 9 :)
I'll tell you the MAL and RP settings later as im still priming at 2.908 GHz. 1 hour 55 minutes elapsed :D
Your temps are fine, I'm at 38ºc with my voltage and the IHS removed, with the IHS still on it was about 5ºc warmer.Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
Is that 2925@1.5v in your sig correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
I think our chips are very similar, wish I would have written down the third line for comparison. As of right now I can get 2808@1.45 just like yours, and a little under 2700 with stock volts. (probably 2691)
BUT mine doesn't keep scaling, you'd think it'd do 2900@1.55 but it doesn't :( I was about to pick up that CCB1E 165 on ebay, but I was outbid by $5 :mad: it went for $320
figured I probably could have sold it off for more anyway.
Hello.
I had some problems getting my previous cpu over 2500mhz (x2 3800+) and now i got problems with this one aswell!
My friend bought this amd opteron 165 , and sold it to me i saw it running @ his home 2700Mhz flawless! (he wasnt running same PSU).
Hes running same mobo (Dfi Lanparty Nf4 ultra-d)!.
I tried it here , and the highest speed i could reach was 2400Mhz with 1.450 vcore , all other was too unstable , SAME PROBLEM as with the x2 3800+! Ive been switchin my memory , and now i bought this cpu. :cool:
Ive been asking peeps , and most of them tells me i need some better power supply , maybe the Watts arent enough or the power rails are too unstable!
Im running the gfx @ 1.5v , high clocks. 2gb crucial mem @ 270Mhz (3 hour memtest86 stable),1hdd 200gb,dvdr/cdr combo drive and a floppy (these are the things thats connected to the power supply). Some other people tells i should switch my mobo! but the same model?
What do you guys think about this?
Ive been messing around with dividers,HTT and stuff but this looks like it's some hardware prob!
New PSU or MOBO?
Please help! :confused:
dual sp2004 for 9hrs sth. @ 2.8ghz default volt.
Wow, that's some low cpu temps for dual prime on air. What's the ambient temps?Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
looks like the 0550UPMW have default volts of 1.375 and 0550VPMW have 1.350. Or at least some of them
Another chop job :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
as shown on the screen cap., it was about 10-11C last night till this morning:)Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...prime16511.jpg
:woot:
Not the best, but i can live with that :) :fact:
KITT are you running with the IHS removed? I am using 1.53v and loading at 47c ><
Yes mate, IHS is removed :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by masterofpuppets
LDT voltage helps quite a bit usually.
I run mine max, which was the only way I could stabalize an Opteron 148.
Maybe it was burn-in
absolute 0, any comment on my chip? thx
@Clint: My little experiment didn't work. The voltage/mhz scaling in my chip is REALLY bad:
1.350v: 2520 280x9
1.375v: 2601 289x9
1.400v: 2637 293x9
1.425v: 2646 294x9
1.450V: 2655 295x9
Didn't try more, as I already know I need 1.550v to get 2700 stable. So basically from 1.4v I need .25v for each mhz I raise the HTT! :(
I'm still unsure if its a temp problem, at 1.55v it primes for 2 hours at 50-51c and keeping temps at 44c and raising HTT fails prime instantly. Tried to clockgen at 1.400v from 295 to 300 HTT but fails in 0 secs.
But what PSU do you have? :D I think it has something to do with the TIM and the IHS seating, maybe you're doing something wrong? It is possible you've ended with 2 really bad chips, but don't think that's the case, as every 165 I read here gets at least 2600 in the worst cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pr4y3r
BTW, did you hardmodded your Gainward 7800gt or was it a bios voltmod? I tried with mine but didn't work. Mine is a non Golden Sample.You should be proud of your chip. Read about mine some lines ^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
I think you misunderstood me, I'm more into lowering the temps more than the voltage...it may sound obvious, but I noticed it's much more sensitive when you are dealing with the dual opty.Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
I'm furtunate enuff to have a very cold airmass (-15) outside my window, only need to open it a tad and I get a cold airstream that I can direct to my setup...I then set a combo of cold air and fanspeed to get a preferred load temp.
I'm working in reasonable temps though, around the 40's coz I'm heading to a WC setup and wanna check out the capacity in that temp range.
K.I.T.T ..that is a spunky clock...2.9 on a 165'er is damn good!
..sweet loadtemp as well if considering the voltage..:)
Yes but unfortunately here in Spain I have now 17c outside, and its still winter. In summer temps grow up to 40-45c :stick:
So I'm afraid I'll have to run my comp at stock (or even lower) voltage.
And yes, I understood you, but the only way I have to lower temps is lowering voltage, because (apart from the jokes :D) I do not plan to get WC
nice below 20c temp, considering i have 30-35 room temperatur...must be like heaven there
Maybe that why mine is not a good clocker?
Tried my 170 with cold air, -10c ambient. The chip is seriously coldbugged, with -5c on the radiator i can bench at 3,2ghz but this time it even freezed at 3ghz.:( Looks like i can forget about trying DI.:)
Hmm, maybe I should have a go at that as well...gonna take out mobo anyway for measuring and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil
If mobo is out of the chassi should be pretty easy to set in on the windowbench...
At this moment we have -12.3 °C here with a humidity of 65 %...will that be dangerous, for condensing I mean?..
When you´re using air, you shouldn´t worry about anything, i used water and still no condensation, maybe because my room was pretty cold as well. Just try and if it keeps freezing, you´ll know.;)
Someone's starved for attention :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
Anyway my 165 has become retarded, it failed 2799@1.45 after 34mins last night. Just before that it lasted 1hr 30mins at 2808 but I clockgened it back. I think burn in has made it worse, I'm hoping if I keep doing it the chip will come back to life
Or I'll have to buy a new one
Good Luck! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
OPteron 170 CCBWE 0546 XPMW
2800(280x10)@1.575v
Watercooled
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/263...546xpmw0vb.jpg
Just got my 0550 VPMW in today =) going to try it out tonight.
Where did you get it?Quote:
Originally Posted by slavearm
Has anyone seen/tried the 0550VPMW's with batch 79AL 50XXX instead of 678L 50XXX ?
dang, you guys are lucky with your weather. Its hitting 80F in Texas already. Kinda hard to keep a room cool with hot humid air outside the window...
Here I am again littering the thread with meaningless miniprimes:
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/609...e0725hu.th.jpg
:p:
..thinking of trying a short primer on high volts, what is safe for a 1.3v chip? ...1.55?
WTF :slobber: I am going to eat your chip :banana:
My chip is being teh gay and failing prime in 5mins at 2808 1.45v, where it did at least 2hrs before :stick:
Well, I have confirmed the coldbug on the 170 CCB1E 0550 VPMW ...acting all weird on me not posting and missing files and such when under 5 degrees...bad baad coldbug.
Water is the way to go:)
Coldbug at 5C? Wow, that's extreme! Guess anything lower should go for CCBWE 0550UPMW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
I own a 79AL 0550, see photo below. My results aren't that great, while doing 9x300, I can get it at 2.7ghz with 1.37v (8hrs prime stable). Haven't played with it much, just removed the IHS too, waiting on my wc setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devious
http://home.comcast.net/~htran83/step.jpg
So I finally got all my gear and built my first system.
I am right now at 2400Mhz on the 170 with stock voltage 1.31V reported in Smartguardian (set on auto in BIOS), I have been stable in winXP for about three hours at that frequency.
Here is where I need some advice: I can run dual prime stable for about 20 minutes with zero errors and the CPU gets to about 42-43C maximum which I believe is safe, however I have manually stopped the torture test because the "PWM IC" temp goes to 50C and the number turns red.
What is the "PWM IC"?? What is an absolutley safe temperature range for the "PWM IC"? Do I need to be stopping this when the number turns red?
At idle 2400mhz the CPU is 32C, and the chipset is always 45C no matter what I have done.
thanks! I will share some screencaps once I get some better results. (remember this is my first time to build a system :) )
Oh yeah, I am in Texas and ambient temps are always hot here!
Hey
PWMIC is the power regulation on NF4 motherboards. Put an 80mm fan over the 3 aluminum mosfets near teh CPU socket to keep PWMIC temps down, although it should be able to get very hot without affecting anything.
Your temps look fine, crank it up man ;).
Hey Absolute, your name is in blue, are you sad or something? :stick: :D
BTW I run my PWMIC at 60c when priming, so no problem. ceevee crank more volts, that chip can do a lot more!
XIPs names were changed to blue.
Yeah supposedly PWMIC can take a beating, like 90c or something, maybe more? I dont care what it's rated for, i put an 80 over it anyway, i don't like to see ANY number over 50. Even if it can function hot, i'd rather keep it cool, just me.
Xip???
Xtremely Important People? :D
thanks all for the advice. I am going to go buy another small fan and will report back soon...
OK so I went and got an 80mm and installed it. But now I am running into problems taking it higher than 2.4ghz.
So my RAM is supposedly guaranteed for "2.5-4-4-8 2T" at 300mhz by G.Skill, so I set it to these timings in the BIOS and increased voltage to 2.8V DRAM. RAM is on a 1:1 FSB divider.
Then I set FSB to 270, (so RAM is 270mhz, CPU 2700mhz) cpu to 1.425V, chipset to 1.6V and booted into windows no problem, but after about 1 minute of 3Dmark05 the computer just shut itself off instantly. (no errors, no blue screen, just instant power off)
So now I have set back to all auto timing settings in the BIOS for the RAM, set FSB back down to 240 (so RAM is 240mhz, cpu 2400mhz).
I left the RAM at 2.8V and set the CPU down to 1.375V, and moved the chipset back to 1.5V. However I seem to have introduced some sort of stability problem into the system because it is still randomly doing an instant power off even though I reduced the FSB :( . (no blue screen, no error)
this is my second attempt to write thsi post, the first time the system shut off.
I have been monitoring my temps the whole time in both smartguardian and the BIOS and there is absolutley not a heat issue that I can see at any time.
Did I break something? Any suggestions? Thanks for your patience as this is my first time to build a PC :)
Did you input the ram timings correctly?
2.5-4-4-8 =
CAS TRCD TRC TRAS respectively
So I am back on my old P4 right now, as the new rig has become completely unstable on any setting ( I even restored the defaults on the motherboard so everything was stock frquency)
Before I got through 3Dmark05 (11,483 score) at 2400, and dual primed for about 30 minutes no problems.
However now the machine boots into windows or the BIOS no problems (at stock) however it does this "instant off" thing after about five minutes from when windows launches.
Before this is what I did with the RAM
CPC = disable
tCL = 2.5
tRCD = 4
tRAS = 8
tRP = 4
everything else I put on "auto" there were a lot of other RAM settings.
So at this point I will be happy if I can just get stability back on the new rig!
thanks guys for the help with this, and I was starting to think this was going to be easy....
Ok ceevee, I'll try to help you
just remount your cpu cooler with new silicon grease,
very thin layer,
read through the instructions for the cooler,
have you changed your backplate?
it sounds like you dont have enough mounting preassure or
enough contact.
keep reporting
Yes. reseat your chip and memory then run the comp to see if it restarts.
This i deffinately your PSU giving up on you, i have tried this before at the symtoms are instant shutdown no erros no warnings just suddeen shotdownsQuote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
yesterday i also bought a opteron 165.
I think i have a newer version or something,but it doesn't overclock that bad :clap:
It is a CCBWE 0602BPMW,i dont know if that is good or bad,still testing it.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=75914
Not bad i think :woot:
:woot: what voltage is that? What's your max stable speed?Quote:
Originally Posted by tinuz97
it is on 1.45 volt,and tested it with prime95 for 6 hours,seems it is stable this way,my only problem is that i reached my max ddr speed i guess,i already have the divider on 166,but the ddr is running on 485mhz now (pc3200).
Maybey i should try set the divider on 133 or something like that?
Here are some more systems specs:
OS: Win server 2003 R2 enterprise.
Amd opteron 165 x64 Dual core 2mb cache @ 2665mhz.
4x512mb Corsair TwinX xms Pro 2-3-3-6 pc3200 tccd @ 485mhz.
Epox 9nda3+ mobo cpu and v-core modded.
Sapphire x800Pro vivo modded to x800xt platinum @ 545/595.
Wd raptor x2 10.000rpm raid 0 strping.
OCZ powerstream 470watt powersupply.
X-FI platinum soundcard.
Zalman 7000 fullcopper aircooling
Srry for that not great english,i am from the netherlands :slobber:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
can you direct me to "CPU Burn"?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
what did King Bor actually tell you to do?
http://www.google.com/search?hs=Ytj&...rn&btnG=SearchQuote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
Very first result..
heh, King Bor is my translation of Swedish for Kung Bore...wich stands for the King of the Winter/Cold...meaning I opened the window and let some of that -15C airmass into my room :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
..a long shot, I know..:rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
:toast: LOL
Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
thanks man......:woot:
How does one get a 11 x on a 165 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nephilim
Weird indeed,i can only get a multiplier of 9 :stick:
you can not get 11x..it is locked ..lower multipliers are notQuote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
Hello, probably this came up here already ... just got
a new Opteron 170 CCBWE 0551 UPMW. My first one :)
The week 50 from what I ve read seems to be a better overclocker, but..
do you have any experience with this stepping ?
Thanks for the input and sorry one more time if this is a repeated
question .;)
Well, I took the step and removed my IHS...everything was going alright but suddenly the razorblade just went through like in water.....I knew I did hit something I shouldnt....:mad:
When I opened the lid one of those small buggers fell out...
I throwed it in my Mobo and fire the thing up, ...everything booted as normal...temps looked very nice and clock gained a tad...no issues so far.
I hope I "removed" the one that didnt have any function....
Idle temp is down with 5C and load down with 8C, and this is fresh AS5...will prolly drop some more.
Will burn in the AS5 and then clock some...
Quote:
Originally Posted by famich
great overclocker...gets WARM though...
Put some Arctic Silver Ceramique on the bare core instead. It dropped load temps by another 5c for me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
what are you using for cooling on naked core?
Jesus Christ, if that happened to me and I had your chip, I'd probably cry. Glad to see it works though :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
PS the way the dividers on 9x multi works is that the 180divider in effect gives you a 10x multi, and-
166- 11x
150-12x
140-13x
133-14x
120-15x
100-16x
If for example you have your RAM on a 166 divider, multiply your RAM speed by 11 to get your CPU speed. The only disadvantage you have over higher multi chips are cold bug and mobo HTT limit :slapass:
THX , Grinch, I am on water -will see :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
My FX57 is CABNE 0530 -which is a good stepping , however, Tcase max is just 57 C, so I can boot 3080 , but 100% stable is just around 3GHz.
Looking forward to the dual core :)
Hehe, lets just say I wouldnt be happy...and it was none but my own fault so..Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
But lets get back to business, this chip doesnt seem to care if a thing or two is missing:
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8...e0587it.th.jpg
Ambient is 10C..
I did raise the voltage .025volt and the clock 50MHz, all in all a good deal.:D
Needs more burning for the AS5 to settle, I guess it's more important on a smaller surface.
Thats an amazing piece of silicon you have there Clint, your making it harder and harder for me to keep my lid on :fact: :D
You wanna me to help you take it off...?Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
..please let me ..let me:banana:
hehe, I wouldnt let myself near anything with pins and IHS after this mishap...:D
Wow, you gotta call this Xtreme... Putting a 3Gig chip under the knife and risk for 50MHz. :slap:
I'd love to have that chip though......... :)