Dear friend Manel & JhonZS:
These are Bad news or not for our future MB's:
HPTX Form Factor
Length: 13.6in - 345.4mm
Width: 15in - 381mm
Kindly regards:(:(
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Dear friend Manel & JhonZS:
These are Bad news or not for our future MB's:
HPTX Form Factor
Length: 13.6in - 345.4mm
Width: 15in - 381mm
Kindly regards:(:(
John
Haven't seen any info on IB-E yet, so it's hard to tell. I would say X79 will be ok with them, but who knows?! Intel could again turn everything around.
Hope they are, that might be a great platform.
Paty
Those dimensions I believe are for the EVGA SR-2, which is dual socket, right? Siler is ATX form factor as usual, as are most "regular" X79 boards.
The SR2 is overkill anyway, only for realy die-hard enthusiasts, with a lot of cash to burn.
Manel that was from the x79 datasheet.
Now ,i'm very happy cause this:
2700k Running it at 4.6 on 1.28volts!
yeah this experience is awesome.
IB will become my new platform, for sure, early next year, and 2011 cpu with 8c/16h,too.
Thanks to Intel.:clap::clap::clap:
djs, you mean the IB-E? Where did you get the datasheet? Haven't looked for it at Intel, not sure they have it there already.
Thanks John, BITS 574 is out, after a long time without updates.
I've been away all week, timeto get up to date now.nVidia released v285.62 WHQL'ed drivers.
Paty, you got a hold of a 2700K? Cool. You're going for 2 rigs, one IB and one SB-E? Send one over if you get bored... :-)
Paty, Origin has a rig with 2700K running at 5.2G out of the box. Wow!
AIDA64 v2.0 supports SB-E, as well as IB an 7 series chipsets.
Intel released SSD Toolbox v3.0 with a new UI.
Again, hate rising against Windows 8 Secure Boot.
TSMC has 28nm process ready, production started. nVidia and AMD GPUs out next year, mobile and low end first.
EVGA X79 Classified looks good, but will wait for Siler or Thorsby version 2 (revision).
Today, we just witnessed an overclocked LGA2011 processor. The processor runs on the Intel X79 Express chipset mainboard with a regular heatsink. We observe the temperature at IDLE, it reads around 45 degrees.
A check on the CPU monitor shows that the CPU is running at a multiplier of 41X with CPU CLK set to 120MHz. This gives us a reading of 4.92GHz. The memory was running DDR3-2400 at CAS 10. CPU Vcore was 1.51v.
From the readings, it looks like the new Core i7 would be a pretty good overclocker. Who cares about LN2 when you can achieve such high speeds even on AIR. The retail processor should do better.
Today, we just witnessed an overclocked LGA2011 processor. The processor runs on the Intel X79 Express chipset mainboard with a regular heatsink. We observe the temperature at IDLE, it reads around 45 degrees.
A check on the CPU monitor shows that the CPU is running at a multiplier of 41X with CPU CLK set to 120MHz. This gives us a reading of 4.92GHz. The memory was running DDR3-2400 at CAS 10. CPU Vcore was 1.51v.
From the readings, it looks like the new Core i7 would be a pretty good overclocker. Who cares about LN2 when you can achieve such high speeds even on AIR. The retail processor should do better.
Well, lots of mobos showing up now. It seems you can even buy a system in China already. And it OCs well, almost 5G on air.
Chinese stores have SB-E and mobos already, but for (unconfirmed) steep prices.
Lots of X79 designs coming out, even mATX from ASRock. EVGA with FTW as well, dual UEFI.
ASRock, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, EVGA, they all have they designs out. Haven't seen much of Intel's own Siler and Thorsby though.
We're we go again. nVidia is "re-designing" GF114 based GTX560Ti with the beefier GF110 GPU, providing it with a lot more muscle, a GTX570 in disguise. GTX560Ti 448core should be the "new" name.
Good read:
http://www.techpowerup.com/153756/Iv...dge-Entry.html
Mention to IB-E finally.
IB + Z77 seems ever more desirable. Will wait and see! Either that or IB-E when details emerge might be the way to go.
Definatelly skip SB-E as it is right now.
First production BIOS for DX79SI/TO 0281, should be out soon enough.
Also, LAN drivers v16.6 released. They provide no support for our boards anymore, although it should install just fine.
Dear Friends:
These are a little bit on spec's to our x79 MB:
Back to BIOS button
4x USB 3.0 (2 external ports/ 2 internal header)
14x USB 2.0 (6 external, 8 internal headers)
8x SATA internal (6x 6Gb/s, 2x 3Gb/s)
2x eSATA external
2x LAN 10/100/1000
2x 1394a (1 external, 1 internal)
8 channel audio
LGA 2011 socket
Intel X79 chipset
Intel Turbo Boost Technology
QUAD Channel DDR3 1600+ memory support
3x PCI Express x16 (support for ATI crossfire and nVidia SLI)
2x PCIe x1, 1x PCI
Dual Gigabit ethernet
Internal WiFi & Bluetooth module
RAID 0,1,5,10
On board LED post decoder readout
ATX (9.6" x 12")
In the meanwhile I remain, :clap::clap::clap:
So, what do we got here ?..
Paty, info and documentation on Siler and Thorsby is on download center @Intel already.
petr0id, good find. Intel has posted the boards on the Extreme Series product page.
Manuals were alredy available for download.
Funny how Intel got a NEC USB 3.0 controller directly to the CPU via PCIe 3.0 and another one via PCIe 2.0 on the PCH on the Siler. That made them have to use a MUX for the PCIe 3.0 slots, one x16 and one x8. Argh!!
I understand that USB 3.0 needs the bandwidth, and not everyone will run 3 cards in SLI/XF but then why not take the extra PCIe 3.0 available lanes and put them all in the CPU?! 7 lanes still avail on the CPU, doing nothing.
Bad design choice, maybe other considerations were taken.
Also, a remote temp sensor is now available on the Siler. That came up a long time ago but was ditched, now it's back.
Why is Intel still calling the firmware BIOS? To not confuse people? I guess it does even more, this is for enthusiasts for crying out loud.
Intel started (U)EFI, so why this?
Check this out... performance tunning guides.
http://www.intel.com/support/motherb.../CS-031689.htm
300USD for SI, 200USD for TO.
No thanx, not right now. I'll wait and see what comes next, rev.2 or something.
3960X on Siler review:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21987
X79 roundup:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21993
Seems the platform is quite energy efficient, lower power draw than expected, very high when OC'ed though.
4.8G with standard cooler, not too shabby...
Intel using Via FW controllers?! What?
Confirmation that Ivy Bridge-E will be socket 2011 and X79 compatible. Only Q4 2012 though.
Die shrink to 22nm.
Hope X79 gets a refresh too by then.
K|ngpin got a SB-E Uber cool (literally) system running at 5271,4GHz, based off EVGA X79 Classified, 3960X,4xGTX580 and 16GB Corsair. CPU and GPUs all under LN2!!
I want one of those.
IVB can be reverse compatible with SNB but, only if the board manufacturer makes it so. Other direction should be no issue.
Yes, guess the same issue with UEFI with ME8L update applies as wih regular IB and SB.
By that time, X79 should have had a revision as well, adding the still missing SAS and SATA ports and uplink, maybe even it become X89 (like X38 and X48) and ditch PCI altogether and get USB 3.0, to make it perfect. Then I'll buy!
Siler review:
http://www.motherboards.org/review/i...Intel%20Core%2
These are interesting times. Do we shed money on X79 and undoubted power of the new 3000 series, or do we bide our time until at least we get a refresh of the X79 and/or Z77 (which looks good BTW).
I tend to build systems to hopefully last 4-5years with the exception of swapping out the Graphics card after 2 years. I fear that although Sandybrige is amazing (2600k) I worry that it will be a bit like those who purchased Dual Cores when Quads were out, by that I mean shortlived yet amazing. In my opinion the 3000 series may have slightly longevity, however we cannot deny that 2600k at the moment is a fantastic chip.
I am oh so curious to see whether we do indeed get new boards in March which improve SNB-E power consumption and add more native SATA-3 ports etc.
John
Yes John, we're facong a dilemma here. For me X79 as it is it's a no go. I'll wait for C2 or even D stepping for the i7-3xxx procs and a refresh of the X79 see what it brings. Most probably yet, I'll wait another year and 22nm Ivy Bridge-E is out and possibily a newer X79/X89 with all the goodies and with the trash out the door.
Let's wait and see.
Z77 and IB look awesome too, if don't intend to SLI or XF, that should be good enough.
LAN drivers 16.7 released.
Haven't seen BIOS updates from Intel in ages.
Even drivers are coming out slow.
All is perfect now?
RAID RST updated to 10.6.0.1022, still DP67BG has a BIOS update 2111 with option ROM 10.8.0.1303. Odd since BIOS is dated 20.11 and drivers 29.11.
Hello gyus,
here is bunch of new drivers...
Intel Chipset Device Software 9.2.3.1022
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...?DwnldID=20462
Intel Rapid Storage Technology 10.8.0.1003
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...?DwnldID=20624
Intel Rapid Storage Technology F6 Driver Diskettes 10.8.0.1003
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...?DwnldID=20625
Realtek ALC Audio Driver 6.0.1.6482
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...?DwnldID=20556
Intel PRO Network Connections LAN Driver 16.7
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...?DwnldID=20679
Intel PRO Network Connections LAN Driver 16.7 DOS diskete
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...x?DwnldID=4239
I have not yet tested it, so be carefull.
Manel: You are right. I'm missing BIOS updates also. At least Intel could provide RAID BIOS update for x48 :-/
Guma, this is in fact too bad. Intel stops support and doesn't even bother to update driver links of older boards.
Like you said, at least BIOS updates with the latest RAID support.
I think we need to rest sometime to get some improved MB & CPU from our Intel Friends,
because we need more efficient Drivers & Controlers for our machines.
I get one Constellation ES2 Seagate HD 3 TB and it was not fare to know that we need more info for this monster, however
Intel needs more testing tools to improve for us our new machines as Siler or Torsby.
I was thinking aloud dear friends & expecting a little to get all our machinenery more perfectly than now, I was saying what about
memory modules for a "Standard" 32 GB (4x8) latency better than 10, a new Videocard Series AMD 9 with 2GBDDR5, well i was
boring you with my non usual meditations.
Thanks Manel & friends from this great forum that clarifies my ideas every time.:clap::clap::clap:
Hi Paty
For the 3TB drive, and if you're using the venerable BIOS, you need to enable UEFI boot to be able to access the full capacity, in a single partition that is.
With UEFI you don't have that problem.
Assuming we have a full UEFI implementation in Siler (I believe it is but no info confirming - it would be suicide for Intel not to use it at this time) you should be fine. UEFI v2.3.1, or later when available, is required for Windows 8 secured boot, and Intel should stick to that. If secured boot is not needed, any frmware will do, if the OEM chooses to enable it.
32GB is available but latencies are still on the high side. You can get some Corsair with 9-10-9 I believe but I don't believe that will make much of a difference anyway. Right now, that's only marketing hype and you get no real benefits in using lower latency mem.
AMD SI HD7000 series should be out by the end of the year, but only really available next year. nVidia Kepler GK100 based boards will still be a long time not available. First all low end boards will surface and higher end later, GK112 690 will only come in early 2013.
New driver/software from Intel, Identity Protection Technology IPT.
New rig gentlemen
djs, cool. How does it do with the 2700K? I guess you're also an Intel enthusiast, another Intel board. Not criticizing, much on the contrary, I'm a fan myself.
Didn't care to wait for Ivy or go for SB-E? No need for the extra PCIe lanes, right? Single graph is enough I guess.
New BIOS/UEFI for the Siler and Thornton, 0380. Few fixes.
We don't even have PCIe 3.0 hardware readily available yet and PCIe 4.0 specs are out. Yaics!!
Siler review:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...therboard/1450
The 2700k is faster than the 975EE, except for memory speed, but after giving the memory a small oc bump it is the same. SB-E, too much money. I got a great deal upgrading two machines here. Can't decide if I will put the Kuhler on and try to see how far I can push it. I have a single video card and frankly don't see a real need for PCI 3.0 or 4.0 for that matter. Not much out there to take advantage of it. I think about IVB when I can swing a deal, maybe in 2012-2013 time frame.
Yep, if the 2600K was already a beast, the 2700K should a bit faster even.
Anyway, SB-E will warrant you maybe 10-15% over your current setup I guess, guess not worth the extra doh. Mem bandwidth (theoritically) will double ok, ou might get extra encryption performance, but the rest will be a mild bump in performance, not something you might really need anyway. Just the ePeen I guess!!! :-)
Good move I believe, specially if it was a good deal.
PCIe 3.0 will be a while, AMD SI is out but not widelly available. nVidia GK100 is even further away, so a mirage still I guess.
PCIe 4.0 will take a few years still to be out.
DDR4 is on the way too, with 3D tecnology. Man, is everything 3D nowadays?!
Kepler seems to do away with the different shader and geometry clocks, only one high speed clock also from now on.
AMD has also started with 384bit wide mem interface, 3GB mem on HD 7970. Hate that! 300W power draw? Monster card, but only 3W idle power! Cool!
News hasit that maybe this Tahiti core is nothing but 3 Barts cores glued together at 28nm. Is this making the old new AMD?
New Enterprise RAID version and USB 3 driver.
Seen the upcoming (a year from now :-() Intel Lizzard Heah Pass S4600LH? Well, it supports 4 way 8-core Xeon E5-4600 Sandy Bridge-EP procs, 1TB (yes, you read it right, 1 Tera!) RAM Quad channel of course, 3 DIMMs per channel.
Based off C600 Patsburg of course, now with SCU enabled.
A beast, only for HP computing, server...
But the name...
Happy New Year you guys.
LAN drivers v16.8 out, I guess they should work with our boards although Intel doesn't apparently support it.
Dear Friend:
I was trying to use my 3TB Seagate Internal Hard Drive with UEFI enabled but no success.
We need more than that UEFI from our "Legacy" MB, & the technicians from Intel to make
useful our machine parts.
Thanks for your regards for this new year.:up::up::up:
Paty, enabling UEFI in BIOS (this sounds stupid really!) should give you support for disks with capacities higher than the 2.2TB limit of LBA.
Never tried it in our boards though.
The UEFI code built into BIOS is only for that, support for large disks, so it should work.
Have you asked Intel support for help? I guess they won't help since support for our boards has stopped long time ago!
Still, you can always partition your driveand use the full capaciy, which can even be good for you. Make a smaller C: partition, say the 800MB remaining, and that will be your boot partition and it will be faster since it comprises the outer tracks. The rest will be within the limits of BIOS anyway. It would be better if the boot partition was smaller, but then you'd need 3 partitions.
Romley platform dual socket 2011 Xeon E5 will be here in March, 80 PCIe 3.0 lanes of joy. Quad graphics setups with full 3.0 bandwidth, although even 2.0 is hardly saturated these days.
Intel's own Crown Pass will only support Crossfire though.
On another note, MIPS and (DEC) Alpha are on the rise. RISC at it's best, not even ARM is that good.
The chinese are betting hard on those.
I guess Intel is in deep s.. trouble, x86/x64 will be left in the dust soon. I remember Alpha back in the days, great tech. MIPS is still going and might get stronger. ARM is on the rise.
No doubt RISC is the future, again.
x86 is awckward, relies too much on legacy and compatibility.
We need to move on.
Paty,
Which operating system are you trying to boot? It should work with win 7 x64 and maybe Vista x64. but probably nothing else.
Dear friend DJS357:
I need to boot from a windows 7 x64.I was searching info from a lot of forums and the Official's too, but noway it was a wasting time.
You need a OS with uefi capabilities included your motherboard to make a boot 3 TB Internal HD.
Mine is a Seagate Constellation ES2, recognize as 3 TB with installed OS, but not for boot.
We need more than Paragon Or Acronis software to make a Boot driver larger than 2.2 TB. Desolé.
Maybe an Intel F6 utility could make the miracle, but it's an idea only because our MB are not supported by Intel anymore.
Thanks for your kindly support my friend.:)
What exactly happens? I would expect Win7x64 to create a GPT volume and just work. You do not need to enable UEFI in the BIOS. That just activates the UEFI shell. Teh needed compatibility is already in the BIOS. It should work as long as the 100MB boot partition created by windows is within the first 2.2TB. See this: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...dware/gg463525
I find it odd that it won't work too.
RAID Enterprise has a new(er) version out.
Paty, is your HDD working already?
John, BITS 640 out and a single correction on v642 as well.
No BIOS updates from Intel for ages now, even for the newer boards! Did they quit the mobo business already?!
Dear friend Manel:
My drive is working with 2.2 TB only.
The full capacity is recognize by the OS as 3 TB but partitioned.
Noway to install as GPT in my Intel MB x48BT2
I hope the new Windows 8 will be capable to Install in full capacity as recognize by
Diskpart utility.
Thanks My Friend.
Note.: What about CES 2012 Las Vegas?Thanks Manel.:up:
Too bad. But still strange.
I have mixed feelings regarding Win8. The UI is horrible, Metro is definatelly not for me. But some serious overhaul work seems to be in place, I've been reading the blog an new stuff is revelead everyday. Still, too much phone focused in my opinion.
CES had some new, what I regreted the most was that Intel Z77+IB fake showdown, that was unnecessary and looked bad for Intel. Still, it's promissing.
Check this out:
http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/
Check this out:
http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/
Hiya!
They now want us to burn our hardware and buy new?
No way. You'll burn CPU for S775, but will unable to get new one for this platform.
So you'll got to go and buy new mobo with new socket for that great gift from Intel...
And do not forget about "Black March" operation please 8)
petr0id
The plan is not available for Sochet 775 procs, only Extreme Socket 2011 (i7-3930K and i7-3960X), i5-2500K and i7-2x00K so far.
Siler on a 5 board round-up:
http://www.techspot.com/review/484-i...board-roundup/
Dear Friend Manel:
Why UEFI "BIOS" at Intel MB is not as good as the UEFI from the ASROCK or ASUS Platforms?
I hope to use all capacity of my 3 TB Seagate Constellation ES2 in my future new branded X79SI from My Friends of Intel. I think they are working hard for a Second Version for this good platform included a friendly UEFI improved.
Thanks.:up:
Paty
Indeed, specially since Intel was the initial developer of EFI Framework, and then passed it on to the UEFI Forum for further development.
As long as it complies with the latest specification (v2.3.1) it should be ok, but again other manufacturers have already developed their own graphical UI for it (with more or less good taste, for me most are awful) but still Intel is behind everyone else on this too.
The most important thing though is that the UEFI implementation is rock solid, and in that respect I believe Intel's is in fact, they've had many years of it to make it perfect. They have been using it for so long now, too bad only on HPC and servers, but desktop is finally catching up.
AMD seems to be keen on getting on this train as well, although at first they said they wouldn't.
Intel always lacks a lot of tweaking options the other guys make available in their UEFI/BIOS, I believe because they're a big company with a reputation to maintain, and that would mean additional support as well. Still, things are changing even for Intel.
Do you have news of the refresh of the Siler already? So, you will wait to get one? I believe Intel has been working on an UEFI UI similar to XTU. It already has some similarities, although still in text mode without all the graphs and all. If this is so, I'd go for it, XTU looks great, by far the best looking tweaking utility for me. I hate those flashy apps from those guys on the other side of the world, the looks are usually terrible. I bet they haven't had UI design classes!!! :-)
Hope Intel by then has solved the chipset problem, and make all features available. I still believe they made a bad job with USB 3.0 on the Siler, if it was on the chipset then they would not have wasted a lane to the proc, rendering tri graphs setups a joke. Intel will be Intel!
Apart from that, and the missing features, the board is cool.
BITS 688 released, a lot of work being done latelly it seems.
Intel hasn't updated it's page for a while, as usual.
BITS 691 released, small fix.
Intel is still not following suit.
nVidia also seems to have an issue with drivers, not a WHQL'ed driver in months. The're waiting for Kepler GK100 series I guess but driver series 290 never saw the light of day (WHQL, betas are out) an now I guess series 295 will also have the same fate. No 600 series support (official) in 295 drivers, guess they're waiting for 300 series drivers to have full support.
BIOS 0424 for the Siler. PCIe 3.0 support at last.
Hi, new Intel® Rapid Storage Technology Driver for Intel Desktop Boards Version: 11.0.0.1032 is available
@http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20868&keyword=%2220 868%22&DownloadType=Drivers&lang=eng
Yes, and BIOS 0888 for the DX58SO2and DX58OG, thought it was already forgotten.
Dear Manel:
I hope the UEFI implementation could be good to translate from this Intel Implementation to old bios because the compatibility could be in anyway unsolve, to translate archives from bios based ones to uefi based OS as windows 8.We will lost all our archives from windows 7??.
Come on good friends from Intel.:up::up::up:
I guess Intel will have a good implementation of UEFI on their boards, if they want to. They have the knowledge. heck they started it anyway. Still, things at Intel usually take their time, and I can even understand that, but they could do a lot better IMO.
nVidia finally released r295.73 WHQL drivers, after what, 4 months?! Funny, no perliminary GTX600 support, at least mentioned?! X79 SLI support.
AMD's eastern islands is already on the talks, even if HD 7000 was just released.
Siler gets a new BIOS update 0430. Quicky!!!
Minor corrections for USB 3 and XMP 1.3 support.
DP67BG and DZ68ZV get new BIOS 2161 with IVB support. Caution, since going back might not be possible.
Siler Preview and Review:
http://www.ocaholic.ch/xoops/html/mo...l_lang=english
http://www.ocaholic.ch/xoops/html/mo...l_lang=english
IVB delayed 10 weeks. Z77 boards showing up though, at first bundles od Z77 and SB, until IVB arrives.
Z77 boards at Intel:
Intel® Desktop Board DZ77BH-55K
Intel® Desktop Board DZ77GA-70K
Intel® Desktop Board DZ77SL-50K
Drivers and Pre-production BIOS/UEFI already downloadable.
USB 3.0 Intel drivers v1.0.4.220, integrated controller probably for:
Intel® Desktop Board DB75EN
Intel® Desktop Board DH77DF
Intel® Desktop Board DH77EB
Intel® Desktop Board DH77KC
Intel® Desktop Board DZ77BH-55K
Intel® Desktop Board DZ77GA-70K
Intel® Desktop Board DZ77SL-50K
Boards based on B75, H77 and Z77. Wonder what the 55K, 70K and 50K stand for.
RST v11.1.0.1006 and Management Engine v8.0.3.1427
intelbettrtogether.com has some really neat stuff, images, videos... Cool!
BITS 707 released.
nVidia dumped 2 WHQL'ed 295 drivers in only 3 weeks, after 5 months or so with only betas. Win8 support already. No GTX680 support that I can see though. It should be out by the end of the month.
BITS 707 released.
nVidia dumped 2 WHQL'ed 295 drivers in only 3 weeks, after 5 months or so with only betas. Win8 support already. No GTX680 support that I can see though. It should be out by the end of the month.
nVidia Kepler GK106, aka GTX680, will be supported in r300 drivers, v300.99 beta seem to be out in the wild already.
Quite a beast the GTX680, for a card that was supposed to be a mid-range/performance card, suddently turned into a high-end HD7970 killer. Sorry AMD fans, this seems to be the case. Hope this doesn't start a AMD/nVidia hate war but this time around nVidia seems to b getting the crown. Let's wait for the end of the month and see.
This card seems to be almost perfect, this was supposed to be the GTX660Ti, which was on my wish list. Only now being GTX680 instead the price will go up for sure.
It seems the bigger Kepler GK110 wil be waiting for 700 series, not sure though.
GTX690 will probably be 2x GK106.
A system with a i7-3770K and Z77 board (Intel Extreme?!) and one of these GTX680 would be awesome.
If IVB-E comes by Q3 or Q4 2012 and X79 gets a refresh (X89?!) with USB 3.0, full SATA 6G/SAS and maybe Thunderbolt (optic next year, confirmed by Intel), PCI ditched and everything else well teaked, that will be worth the wait.
NO IB-E in 2012.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manel
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...This_Year.html
Dear friend Manel:
This could be the new roadmap for Intel Proc's:
Attachment 124687
I hope these delaies would be for a better products from my friends by INTEL.:(
Thanks Stasio, too bad.
Paty, yes this was true some time back. But Haswell has been delayed as well, April 2013 seems more likely now. New socket 1150 - have fun Intel haters!!!
Sorry, didn't realize that it's already set to H1'13, it's correct indeed.
Too bad Intel are getting lazy with the lack of competition.
BIOS 0453 for Siler released.
So what is the general concurrences for enthusiast upgrade path from X38/X48?
I tend to upgrade my main platform ~4yrs and my GPU ~1.5yrs
Would Z77 be a viable option? Or X79 as we know this is going to get more cores and more improvements as the platform matures as Intel want this to be the premier platform.
John
John
Intel Z77 Extreme (when available:) ) paired with i7-3770K and GTX680 sounds really sweet right now.
But that's if you can settle with just IB, fewer PCIe 3.0 lanes.
If you want to go all out, SLI/CFX, loads of cores, massive mem - then IB-E when it comes out, and the re-spin of X79 (if ever) is the way to go.
Right now I guess Z77 would cut it for me, but I would love it if X79 would get a refresh so that it would deserve the Extreme moniker.
I said whenthere is a Z77 Extreme available but there is info already of the DZ77GA-70K on Intels page. I seems it has a new "Visual BIOS"- maybe a graphical UEFI interface already, bout time!! I hope it looks like XTU finally, surelly will. Cool board! Too bad stll has PCI though, waste of space and additional bridge (I guess). 8 USB 3 ports, 4 SATA6 and 1 eSATA6. Gone back to having PS2 port? Come on Intel! Too colorfull, the internal conectors. Itching to see how it clocks...
5 Media Series additional boards based off Z77 as well.
The extreme GA has 1 PCIe 3.0 16x and 1 8x electrical. Also Dolby.
Yeah there's a bridge on the DZ77GA-70K. The bridge also supports the ieee-1394 interface
djs, FireWire usually is not part of the bridge, I guess they should be using a TI PCIe chip (as usual) which is hanging from the PCIe bridge. But I find that setup strange, if that's the case. FW should be on the PCH, along with the other IO. IOntel made that mistake (in my opinion) with the Siler using CPU lanes.
BITS 730 released.
Siler gets a BIOS update to 0460.
It is a PCI Firewire chip. On one of the ports, can't be sure of brand, but assume TI.
Funny being PCI, they have been using PCIe TI chips for quite a while, BT uses it anyway. Odd, since PCI will not provide the bandwidth necessary for FW to go full speed.
Where did you find info on this board already?
LAN drivers v17.0 and graphics driver out.
I think you probably know by now...
Dear Friend:
I have some info on new branded Intel MB's.
These ones could be the second generation for Siler?
What about that?
I hope my Intel friends get improved the first Siler , and the USB issues , too.
Thanks friend:):):)
OK, info at Intel's already. Visual BIOS looks really cool. I wonder why they still call it BIOS, I assume it's UEFI already.
2 Fast Charge USB 2.0 ports (yellow?!) - good, PS2 still?! Be done with it. Also PCI should go, no-one is going to use old PCI cards (sound cards maybe, but drivers should be scarce now).
Either 1xPCIe x16 or 2xPCIe 8 for SLI/XF.
Its a little too colorfull for me, the conectors I mean.
Dual Gb LAN is good (teaming), Power Supervisor must be a VR controller chip for intelligent regulation, phase control.
Something funny just hapenned. Intel released a Win7 graphics driver older than the one provided a couple of days ago. Problems?
Where does it say that FireWire hangs off the PCI-PCIe bridge? They could have used one of the PCI ports but since the PCH still has available PCIe lanes I don't see the reason. Doing the math maybe not after all, with all the extra ports: LAN, USB3, SATA6G and slots.
Paty, do share the info on the next iterationof Siler - I'm curious now. I heard only next year there might be a v2 of this board.
OK, seen the docs. You are correct djs, althouh I find Intel's options awkward.
Using USB 3 hubs gives out more ports but if all populated (hardly, so why so may?) competition for bandwidth will occur.
But the worst of all is that PCI bridge actually: PCI, eSATA and FW competing for 1 lane? Yaicks!! Why not do away with the x4 PCIe (which will hardly be used - maybe storage cards, but not everyone has them) and give all peripherals their own lanes? There would be another x1 left still and could be used for the PCI bridge, if that was really necessary.
Intel needs to revise their doc, same info for ages (mem address space gives me the creeps with DOS area still). And some errors too: TPS refers 64MbFlash and flyer sas 32Mb, which is it Intel? How come TPS doesn't mention Visual BIOS?
At least the audio subsystem looks ok,althogh I'm not a fan of Realtek codecs, but it's what everyone uses. And this one is ok.
Also, Intel only mentions the 579V LAN controller while in fact the second (and that's the correct configuration) is a 574.
Another flaw is the HW monitoring chip, Winbond is metioned in the TPS (I believe they forgot to update from older documentation) while Nuvoton is referred earlier in the same doc, I believe this is the correct one. Intel has been using Nuvoton chips now latelly.
Good news, Haswell-EX (yes, read it right) will come in 2014 - still a long way.
This is the enterprise version, 16 cores minimum and DDR4 mem at 1.2v and maybe even lower 1.05v.
Haswell will come in 2013 but still with DDR3 and 2014 will see 14nm Broadwell also still on DDR3 for the desktop. Only in 2015 the sucessor to Broadwell will use DDR4 on the desktop.
Haswell will be here next year on 22nm, socket 1150 with Lynx Point chipset (8 series?), all SATA6G ports and 6 USB3 native ports.
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Originally Posted by Manel
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...?DwnldID=21135Quote:
NOTICE: This download requires a program password to unzip. Contact your Intel salesperson if you received a sample board that requires this driver.
Why password?
stasio, I noticed it too - odd!! Secret driver?!
I see you're running a Z77 board already - how does it go? Everything cool with Z77 and 2600K? Can you fit all those mem modules in there?
Giga Z77X-D3H is super for me,run very stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manel
Waiting for better info about IB (retail) temperature,clocking,etc...then I'll decide to go with another memory 2400+.