ASUS RAMPAGE II GENE (Retail) : ROG. X58 m-ATX preview

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Originally Posted by The Duke

what are your temps?

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according to the LED poster, it is 35 degrees currently

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Originally Posted by Philwong

Are you using PWM fan? Speed control for the CPU header is strictly PWM based. The rest of the headers are controlling the fans via voltage.

Phil

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by PWM do you mean it has a 4-pin connector?

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Originally Posted by usz

It's like Phil says. The easy solution for the non-PWM fans is to connect CPU fan to CHA1 or CHA2 header, turn on Q-FAN for those connectors and put CPU fan monitoring on ignore. This is how I used to run my board.

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yes that is what i found too, the fan speed varies when i put it in a chassis fan header... but thats no good for cpu cooling at all since the mobo stays cool while the cpu gets hotter and hotter

i downloaded speedfan in hopes of being able to control the fan speeds that way, but it has no effect... it doesnt even report the rpm of everything other than the cpu... plus the temp readings look way too low to be true
also, the LCD cpu readout is always 2 degrees higher than what it shows under 'CPU' in speedfan... 60/58 degrees running prime95, corsair h50, stock clocks and voltages
::edit:: stopping prime results in an instant drop in temps in Speedfan, but the LCD readout remains constant... i dont think i trust the LCD that much anymore

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Originally Posted by carmatic

by PWM do you mean it has a 4-pin connector?

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Thats right.

Phil

probably a slightly unrelated question here, but is having a 5 degree difference in temps between cpu cores normal? or should i redo the heatsink...
the lowest temp is a reasonably low 41 degrees celcius at prime95 load, with ambient temps of 22 degrees

let it idle, however, and it drops to a fantastically low 13 degrees celcius at the same ambient temp

Normal...

do any of you actually trust the temperature readings of Speedfan or the LCD Poster?

What kind of mainboard temps are you folks getting. Mine is pretty toasty at 47c. Room ambient is 32c.

Phil

on mine, the LCD poster says that the mobo is 39 degrees, while speedfan's 'system' reading says 40 degrees
ambient temperature for me is 20 degrees

i've bought a delta fan for the summer...

also the temperature difference between my cpu 8 'cores' in speedfan has increased up to 7 degrees celcius when running prime... hottest pair of cores reached 57 degrees while the coolest pair stayed at 50 degrees ... i thought that replacing the thermal compound with artic silver would fix that, but it made no difference...


one more question, is there a way to get more control over what the LCD poster shows? i want to make it stop cycling through all 6 temperature readings and stay on the cpu

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Originally Posted by carmatic

on mine, the LCD poster says that the mobo is 39 degrees, while speedfan's 'system' reading says 40 degrees
ambient temperature for me is 20 degrees

i've bought a delta fan for the summer...

also the temperature difference between my cpu 8 'cores' in speedfan has increased up to 7 degrees celcius when running prime... hottest pair of cores reached 57 degrees while the coolest pair stayed at 50 degrees ... i thought that replacing the thermal compound with artic silver would fix that, but it made no difference...


one more question, is there a way to get more control over what the LCD poster shows? i want to make it stop cycling through all 6 temperature readings and stay on the cpu

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depending on what TIM you used before ... reapplying will make little difference unless the first application was terrible.

BIOS should let you choose what you want to scroll on the screen ...

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Originally Posted by carmatic

hey guys, im trying to control my cpu fan speed... its constantly at 100% , even when q-fan is set to 'silent'

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I experience the same problem. I use 3-pin fans on this board, plugged into the CPU and front & rear fan headers. When I try to control them with Q-Fan, only the front & rear case fans will slow down, but not the CPU fan, however I'm sure 4-pin PWM fans would work fine.

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Just saw the new Gene III today at the Tech conference... board looks pretty fab too... hope it clocks even better...

looks pretty I7 to me :)

http://users.telenet.be/OAP/geneIII.jpg

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I'm sure my current board has these specs. Is this supposed to be from the Gene III spec. sheet?

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

NDA 27th, colour scheme is alike Crosshair Formula IV and REX III

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Off topic, but any update on this? :para:

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Originally Posted by aln688

I'm sure my current board has these specs. Is this supposed to be from the Gene III spec. sheet?

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What else would you expect? I bet the R3G will be just like R2G, but with Nec USB3 controller and Marverll SATA3 controller slapped onto it. Plus new RoG connect and repainting, so it looks like M3G, maybe with radiators styled like on R3E. What else is there to add, since there is no new IOH/ICH from Intel.

Sorry have to keep my piccies one more day in the box lads, will be a small article at Shrimps site tomorrow... I'm at he MOA qualifiers tomorrow in Eindhoven, but the editor promised me it would be up around noon euro time...

Some new pictures and a right up on the new Gene III here http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/mot...age-iii-gene/1

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Originally Posted by Warranty_Void

Some new pictures and a right up on the new Gene III here http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/mot...age-iii-gene/1

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Ow noes, where did the fusion block go? Also seems there is USB RoG connector like on M3G, so no bluetooth for this one. One more thing that apparently got dropped is the X-Fi capable sound.

USB 3.0, SATA 6GBIT , new looks, some new features and a little beefed up cooling is the only changes as far as i can see?

Good for those that are going to buy a new MB now but I would not buy this motherboard just for the buying purpose and because its newer:P

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Originally Posted by Cralle!

USB 3.0, SATA 6GBIT , new looks, some new features and a little beefed up cooling is the only changes as far as i can see?

Good for those that are going to buy a new MB now but I would not buy this motherboard just for the buying purpose and because its newer:P

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I was looking forward to the new version and upgrading my Gene II but with only USB 3.0 and SATA 6GBIT the rest of the board looks like a step back in terms of features.

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Originally Posted by Warranty_Void

I was looking forward to the new version and upgrading my Gene II but with only USB 3.0 and SATA 6GBIT the rest of the board looks like a step back in terms of features.

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Exactly! What a huge disappointment.

Phil

What on earth did you expect then ? a mini REX III with digital PWM's 4 PCI -E slots... you guys hopes might be unrealistic. This is still a high end mATX mobo, nothing more but certainly nothing less. Why is it a step back in features ? Also take in mind the price level is a very important key factor

Isn't there a saying : don't judge a book by it's cover ?

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

What on earth did you expect then ? a mini REX III with digital PWM's 4 PCI -E slots... you guys hopes might be unrealistic. This is still a high end mATX mobo, nothing more but certainly nothing less. Why is it a step back in features ? Also take in mind the price level is a very important key factor

Isn't there a saying : don't judge a book by it's cover ?

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With all due respect, could you clarify what you mean by..

"Why is it a step back in features?"

when Asus has taken away the removable NB heatsink featured on R2G, among others.

If you look at R3E, that's a genuine step up from its predecessor with most, if not all, original features retained, plus all the extras.

Phil

So you don't think the new heatsink design might be better , you already know it will run too hot ? Block is beefier than the older one so it might just do the trick out of the box this time. Gene II also worked stock with air cooling. But not with watercooling on the CPU as it needs flow. An extra fan or aftermarket heatsink to cool the IOH is a must on that board. Is it needed on the III ? I don't know about that yet till I have the board.

In case they had to add all the new features of the REX III and completely overhaul this board, it would retail at least a quarter higher, would you still buy it then ? This is a 24/7 board, the REX III in fact is designed for benchers, world of difference to me...

I see nothing wrong with the new Gene III, is it worth to upgrade if you already have a Gene II ? Dunno bout that.

Is it worth if you have a REX II to upgrade to a REX III for daily use ? Not sure about that either as 80% of it's new features will not be exploited by 24/7 people and mild overclockers ( with this I mean OCing at non extreme temps )

Judge it when you have it, think that's a a better way to approach things...

And I wonder what features of the REX III would you have like to be implemented on the new version ? which are interesting for you ?

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Originally Posted by usz

What else would you expect? I bet the R3G will be just like R2G, but with Nec USB3 controller and Marverll SATA3 controller slapped onto it. Plus new RoG connect and repainting, so it looks like M3G, maybe with radiators styled like on R3E. What else is there to add, since there is no new IOH/ICH from Intel.

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New features, new board layout, who knows? No more than what anyone would expect of a newer version of a board. It's natural to assume there would be newer features considering the money it takes to develop, manufacture and market a new revision of a board.

On the flip-side, look at the Asus P6T Deluxe compared to the Asus P6T Deluxe V2, they removed the SAS chip and I think that was it. So maybe newer revisions of at least Asus boards don't hold too many changes in store, so it could be said not much is to be expected.

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Originally Posted by Warranty_Void

Some new pictures and a right up on the new Gene III here http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/mot...age-iii-gene/1

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Looks nice, but I won't be upgrading as the R3G isn't a radical upgrade over the R2G. The heat-sink designs are interesting, I'm unsure if the NB actually has that much more aluminium on it, due to it's odd-shape. It also looks to be one-piece, meaning no more modular function.

guys show you whether this is normal mother behaves in the SLI with two GeForce 9800 GX2 ?

I new there was a reason why I was compelled to sell my perfectly good-running RII Gene system. I'll sell my Phenom rig at cost when this comes out and maybe pick up another 5850 for Crossfire (who knows, maybe Nvidia will come out with a more energy-efficient FERMI)

Ok, i'm having this weird problem with my system and i'm suspecting mobo (again). I've fixed random BSOD's by replacing my Samsung Spinpoint F1 750GB HDD with WD Caviar Black 2TB. However, now on EVERY cold boot (this is being system disconnected from power grid), i get BSOD with ecache.sys being the reason for it. I can then reboot my system 10 times and it will boot fine. But whenever i start it from cold, i get the ecache.sys BSOD.

I was looking at Caviar's specs and it requires like 2x as long to spin start as other smaller drives. Could this be the reason that drive just doesn't spin up fast enough for system to load and then it fails. But if you restart it, the platters are still spinning and it then spins up to 7200 RPM faster and the boot goes on properly. Or the mobo just needs a BIOS update to correct this behavior.
Or it can just as well be something else. Anyone experiencing same issue?

Has anyone updated to BIOS 1307 for this board?

I'm still on 0904 and I'll admit nearly everything seems to work, with the exception of when I warm boot, sometimes I'll get "LOCKED" on the LCD Poster and I have to hold in the reset button for 5 seconds before it'll boot.

I'm wondering if updating to 1307 would fix this single problem? So far Google research has revealed slow-downs in one form or another, but nothing in regards to the "LOCKED" problem.

Thanks.

(Actually my LCD Poster is now faulty, the digits on it are corrupted.)