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08-13-2008, 01:19 PM
NaeKuh

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Originally Posted by eXa

Even if the GTX top fit im not shure if it would hold the nozzle thingy in place properly...

it couldnt.

im seeing a part that goes inbetween that looks like an injector of some sort.
08-13-2008, 01:27 PM
evil-98

"taking a seat"
08-13-2008, 01:28 PM
NaeKuh

thanks andy when you can i'd really apreciate those messurements as well.
08-13-2008, 01:33 PM
scottc19

now everyone is glued to the screen hitting refresh every 10 seconds...lol
08-13-2008, 01:36 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottc19

now everyone is glued to the screen hitting refresh every 10 seconds...lol

not really.

The block will perform within 2-3C either better or worse then the EK.

Im more waiting on martin's flow test to see what the drop is. Next gen top tier gaming machines will be dual socket. 2-3C wont matter squat when your cooling 2 processors. Its the pressure drop that should be more of a concern.

Having 2 supremes wont help you in that area. Well not unless your like me and you know how to plan it.
08-13-2008, 01:39 PM
Xilikon

Toss some popcorn my way, I'm sitting on a pack of beer :)
08-13-2008, 01:58 PM
skinnee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilikon

I'm sitting on a pack of beer :)

Is that the new method of cooling fart_plume talked you all into with his biological cooling references?
08-13-2008, 02:10 PM
Xilikon

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnee

Is that the new method of cooling fart_plume talked you all into with his biological cooling references?

shhh...
08-13-2008, 02:17 PM
eXa

That long?

Ah i see, u wasted time hugging ur wife and smoking.... :mad:

:p:
08-13-2008, 02:18 PM
twwen2

Great work andy, keep at it! :cool:
08-13-2008, 02:20 PM
scottc19

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

not really.

The block will perform within 2-3C either better or worse then the EK.

Im more waiting on martin's flow test to see what the drop is. Next gen top tier gaming machines will be dual socket. 2-3C wont matter squat when your cooling 2 processors. Its the pressure drop that should be more of a concern.

Having 2 supremes wont help you in that area. Well not unless your like me and you know how to plan it.

You mean the dtek v2, that still pulls ahead of the ek from what I have seen
08-13-2008, 02:23 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottc19

You mean the dtek v2, that still pulls ahead of the ek from what I have seen

:rofl:

in your own world my friend. EK > D-tek. Can we just end it?

My EK will probably spank this GTZ even. Well im using custom accelerators. :rofl:

My Cuplex will probably beat this GTZ as well, thats if martin finished stepping it.

Gabe you need to step the block and not bow it. Scott definitely discovered a winner.

Only problem tho, once stepped the block can never be used on neha since the die package is different.
08-13-2008, 02:29 PM
scottc19

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

yeah,

I'm with NeaKuh on that one. Only in some parallel universe would the V2 beat a Supreme.

andyc

Really? Well my bad. Which one would be better if I also have my gpu mcw60 in the loop?
08-13-2008, 02:32 PM
eXa

What! :eek:

Well well.... just get going :p:
08-13-2008, 02:45 PM
Martinm210

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

from our web site:

"Mechanical design of the copper base plate is optimized for Intel® socket LGA 775 and 771. The assembly features a patent pending design characterized by a topographically mapped CPU contact area which results in a 75% and up to 300% improvement in TIM joint thermal resistance compared to the Apogee™ GT/GTX series. Other types of sockets such as AMD® socket F, AM2, and 940 as well as upcoming sockets similar in design to that of socket 775 may also benefit from the enhanced contact area."

we are NOT talking about cores gentlemen, we are talking about TIM. Please keep that in mind. The orientation of this waterblock is socket specific, not core specific.

Thanks for the clarification, I've just noticed on some other blocks that generaly the orientation of the nozzles needed to match the core orientation for optimum cooling so I assumed this would be the same. It doesn't matter for the quad which is what I'm testing anyhow.
08-13-2008, 02:56 PM
Martinm210

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

yeah,

I'm with NeaKuh on that one. Only in some parallel universe would the V2 beat a Supreme.

andyc

Have you guys tried a thicker o-ring in the V2 as a modified block test?

I've got one in mine, and need to go back and run stock now, but I think the additional bowing helps a fair amount.

It also probably depends on the TIM material used. The TIM consultants TC Grease 0098 stuff seems to a metter TIM interface that some of the others I've tried and showing less gain on bowing than non-bowed blocks. It's pretty thick stuff though, and I've had to adopt a spread thin method for consistent and optimal performance with it.

Anyhow, my GTZ sample won't be here for a couple more days, I'm sitting here with popcorn too...Actually I've got 8 block sets of runs done and still have several to go and several modified tests I want to run as part of my review package. Then I've got to go back and retest the "As Shipped" which is going to take a while and a little case modification work to add to the list.

Are you done...yet?...:D
08-13-2008, 03:10 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

One thing I did notice, the quad core insert is worthless on the V2. I have to go back a run another couple of mounts with the insert to be sure, now that I have the new temp monitoring set up (thanks to your direction and advice), but everything I've seen so far suggests worse performance using the insert. At least on a Yorkie.

Have you seen that also?

andyc

nozzles are missing the cores then on the yorkfield.

planning was done on kentsfield then, and the smaller yorkfield package is missing the injector path.
08-13-2008, 03:11 PM
Martinm210

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

One thing I did notice, the quad core insert is worthless on the V2. I have to go back a run another couple of mounts with the insert to be sure, now that I have the new temp monitoring set up (thanks to your direction and advice), but everything I've seen so far suggests worse performance using the insert. At least on a Yorkie.

Have you seen that also?

andyc

Havn't tested it yet, only stock with the EK oring. I still have a few more stock runs to do, then I'm moving onto the "Overclocked" Nozzle/Bowing/Stepping" experiements..:D
08-13-2008, 03:21 PM
nikhsub1

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

yeah,

I'm with NeaKuh on that one. Only in some parallel universe would the V2 beat a Supreme.

andyc

I've yet to see this, but meh, I'm sure my EK is borked. I mean, it tests worse than the 6002.

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