ASUS P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3

Hi eva, or anyone else here. I am getting finally tomorrow my P5K deluxe.And I am pretty new to Intel ( currently got a AMD s939, didnt tweak anything for like 2 years:X) So I want to prepare myself for it. I see that u run memtest 86+ for testing ram first. I remember that it is not neccasary to run all tests but just some of those ( 8 test if I can remember ), so which of them u often run and how many loops( or hours) will give u a good indication of stability of RAM, and what are actually SPD timings and what values should i set them, got btw a Mushkin XP2 Pc8500 5-5-4-12 @2,1-2,35V rated (D9MGH). And I know the Vdamper works pretty well on this board, so none vdroops ( or lil bit), but how are the vcore in real time , compared with what u set in BIOS?, did any one measured it with a Multi-meter? Any help appreciated

Just got mine set up after dead BX2.

Initial findings:

CPU: 3800 MHZ, 475x8 @ 1.46v
RAM: 1:1 4-4-4-10 2T @ 2.1v

Looking promising. Getting some strange program errors, particularly with ZoneAlarm - going to have to try iron that out but I suspect it is the RAM. I might loosen it to 4-4-4-12 and see if that helps any.

Also feeling this strange OS "lag" where things jump around a little bit. Going to have to figure that out.

But so far, things are looking up!

EDIT: Bah, ram didn't like those settings. Backed it down to 422x9 4-4-4-10.

ASUS should be releasing 0403 for the P5K-D shortly, it has improved 1T operation and FSB straps. Overclocking is looking a little better in the mid-range now with tighter memory timings. ;)

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Originally Posted by trajik78

great results eva2000.

gives me hope that i can get more out of my OCZ Platinum chips which have turned out to be pretty disappointing. cant run DDR2-1000 4-4-4-15 with 2.35v or 5-5-5-15 at 1200mHz at same vDIMM. think its safe to run 2.4v w/o active cooling on the chips?

time to try the yellow slots :D

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i wouldn't even try 2.1v vdimm without active cooling ;)

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Originally Posted by Silver Fox

Been playing with my P5K Deluxe + E6400 for a bit now. Currently has 0311 bios. For some reason, my system sorta hangs for no reason at random intervals. It's not a stability issue, it's something else, like the BIOS is just stopping for no reason or something. I'll be running Orthos for awhile, and the OS just sorta stops responding. Orthos continues to still run, passing tests, but AI Suite/Core temp just stops updating, Orthos timer stops, the "GO" flashing stops, Tests continue to pass, can't even push the Start menu, Mouse still moves, but everything sorta just hangs there. I can't even turn the system off using the power switch, I have to turn it off using the switch on the PSU. After letting it cool off a bit, I go back into the BIOS, and the clock is behind, as it seems the time stopped after the "hang" occurs.

Anyone experience anything similar? Really need to figure out what's causing this. This is happening on stock settings even, it's really strange. Got a 40gb IDE hooked up, a sata optical drive on the black slot, both controllers running IDE mode. PSU is Corsair HX520.

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what keyboard/mouse you using PS/2 and adaptors for PS/2 to USB ?

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Originally Posted by mc2k

Hi eva, or anyone else here. I am getting finally tomorrow my P5K deluxe.And I am pretty new to Intel ( currently got a AMD s939, didnt tweak anything for like 2 years:X) So I want to prepare myself for it. I see that u run memtest 86+ for testing ram first. I remember that it is not neccasary to run all tests but just some of those ( 8 test if I can remember ), so which of them u often run and how many loops( or hours) will give u a good indication of stability of RAM, and what are actually SPD timings and what values should i set them, got btw a Mushkin XP2 Pc8500 5-5-4-12 @2,1-2,35V rated (D9MGH). And I know the Vdamper works pretty well on this board, so none vdroops ( or lil bit), but how are the vcore in real time , compared with what u set in BIOS?, did any one measured it with a Multi-meter? Any help appreciated

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memtest86+ v1.70 usage guide applies to DDR1/DDR2 still in most cases http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=6

haven't measured with DMM as my board is in corner of the room which is hard to position myself to do something as delicate as shoving a DMM probe around the board LOL

As to what subtimings you should set there's no hard or fast rule, test in memtest and then windows whatever works stably for your memory. Loose sub timings to start with would be 10-42-10-10-11 and tighten and test from there

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Originally Posted by bingo13

ASUS should be releasing 0403 for the P5K-D shortly, it has improved 1T operation and FSB straps. Overclocking is looking a little better in the mid-range now with tighter memory timings. ;)

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oooooh sounds good... 1T is something i haven't looked into much after hitting a wall around 350mhz 1T with 0311 heh

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Originally Posted by eva2000

what keyboard/mouse you using PS/2 and adaptors for PS/2 to USB ?

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PS/2 KB, USB mouse. No adaptors in between.

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Originally Posted by Silver Fox

PS/2 KB, USB mouse. No adaptors in between.

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probably time to isolate and test each component in your system

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Originally Posted by eva2000

probably time to isolate and test each component in your system

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I got mine a few weeks ago and after gathering parts last night I tried to turn the system on - tried as there is no video display at all, no post no nothing. All the fans, hdds, cdrom start up but thats how far it goes.

I have tried:

removed all devices but video card, memory, CPU
boot with one stick of ram (GSkill 8500)
move the stick of ram to different slots
another stick of ram (GSkill 6400)
different PCI-E video card
PCI video card
generic 667 DDR2
different power supply
different CPU (celeron D)
moved the mobo on my desk
clear bios
USB bios reflash (thought that bios might be empty as I get no post at all)
battery out

Is there anything I missed? Contacted supplier and I will have to see what he says tomorrow (I hope Nigel is a nice guy).

Nigel's a nice guy AFAIK :)

i had no video display once when i changed from PCI FX5200 card to 8800GTS PCI-E card... had to clear cmos to get 8800GTS PCI-E to work.. other than that no more video display issues.

what bios you using ? celeron D as in 533FSB cpus ? they aren't supported by P5K P35 chipset so you'd have boot up issues with 533FSB bus cpus on P35 chipset.

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Originally Posted by eva2000

probably time to isolate and test each component in your system

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Trying another hard drive now, hopefully it was a HDD issue. Would suck if the mobo is just plain faulty. Really strange issue though, never ever experienced something like this before.

I have a noob question...

You guys are running the 6600 at 400x9 on air, to make your memory ratios good (right?). Chip prices aside for a moment, is heat the only reason you don't use a 6700 and go to 400x10?

3.6 more doable than 4ghz :)

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Originally Posted by MnM

different CPU (celeron D)
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FYI: This P5K Deluxe doesn't support 533 FSB CPU anymore. Since Celeron D is a 533 FSB CPU, you are out of luck on that.

I was hoping to use my Celeron D 356 on it until I read Asus' FAQ section.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/boble76/Tietoko.../7x505_32M.gif

CPU @ 1.425V from BIOS (E6600 L629A807) lapped (water +28C)
NB @ 1.55V from BIOS
SB @ 1.2V from BIOS
MEM @ 2.2V from BIOS

bios 0311

Dam it.. swapped out Q6600B3 for E6700 L629B079 B2 and seems i'm always floating around 13min 08s to 11s :lol:

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m09s312ms.png

My system temp is quite high, 38 idle 46+ orthos @ 1.4v on n-b. I think i need to check if it makes good contact.... But prolly not:( i have a MCX159-CU over so maybe i need to put it on, any sugestions for s-b? if there is possible give me an url for shop in EU:)

Starting to think my board is faulty. It has trouble booting after a forced shutdown. My Sata drive didn't get recognized just now, it's just acting really weird. If it fails consistently, I wouldn't be as confused, but why is it able to do Orthos for 4+ hours, then as I Shut Down from windows, it just hangs there, eventually being forced to turn it off from the PSU. Really weird. Time to RMA me thinks.

Edit: Board won't even POST anymore. Great...

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Originally Posted by eva2000

Nigel's a nice guy AFAIK :)

i had no video display once when i changed from PCI FX5200 card to 8800GTS PCI-E card... had to clear cmos to get 8800GTS PCI-E to work.. other than that no more video display issues.

what bios you using ? celeron D as in 533FSB cpus ? they aren't supported by P5K P35 chipset so you'd have boot up issues with 533FSB bus cpus on P35 chipset.

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Hmm dont know what bios I am using - it doesnt display aything!!
Yeah I red about the CPU. Tried an X6800 same result.
DO those boards make any sound at all? Like beeps and such? I dont even get a beep out of it.

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Originally Posted by eva2000

okay Ace-a-Rue, slaughtered, cooked and served for your digestion :D

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EVA! a little feedback on the Abit IP35 Pro.

the only difference was higher FSB (495) for my Q6600 and higher memory bandwidth:

still about the same performance as the QuadGT which was limited to 410 FSB...except...the memory bandwidth.

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Originally Posted by Ten

My system temp is quite high, 38 idle 46+ orthos @ 1.4v on n-b. I think i need to check if it makes good contact.... But prolly not:( i have a MCX159-CU over so maybe i need to put it on, any sugestions for s-b? if there is possible give me an url for shop in EU:)

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with the same nb voltage i got pretty much the same temp as you as soon as i start pushing the ram a bit 37 iddle 46° after 5+ of orthos
i manage to reduce it a bit by replacing the asus tim under sb and nb by AC mx-1 tim now running at 44° max after 2hour+ of orthos.

for your S/B cooler you could try the HR-05 sli, its the only one i could think off that would fit with your 8800 gtx.

after reading all the great infos posted by eva i decided to test my ram while waiting for my WC parts :
iam using crucial pc8000 2*1gb did all my test with 4-4-4-9-2-25-2-2-4 @2.20 with HR-07 and a 80mm fan on top, OS : (vista 64).

yellow slot : max stable with orthos large fft(2hours+) 510 mghz
back slot : max stable with orthos large fft (5hour+) 528 mghz
black slot 1T : max stable sith orthos large fft (5 hour+) 444 mghz.

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Originally Posted by Ten

My system temp is quite high, 38 idle 46+ orthos @ 1.4v on n-b. I think i need to check if it makes good contact.... But prolly not:( i have a MCX159-CU over so maybe i need to put it on, any sugestions for s-b? if there is possible give me an url for shop in EU:)

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i'm still using stock NB heatpipe heastink with stock TIM unchanged... just a fan over NB and cpu socket area will so drops in temps but depends on your room/case ambients.. i get MB temps between 27-36C load with 15-28+C night/day room temps.

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Originally Posted by Silver Fox

Starting to think my board is faulty. It has trouble booting after a forced shutdown. My Sata drive didn't get recognized just now, it's just acting really weird. If it fails consistently, I wouldn't be as confused, but why is it able to do Orthos for 4+ hours, then as I Shut Down from windows, it just hangs there, eventually being forced to turn it off from the PSU. Really weird. Time to RMA me thinks.

Edit: Board won't even POST anymore. Great...

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with sata disks disappearing also check the PCI-E frequency that is set is 100 on reboot/exit from bios

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Originally Posted by MnM

Hmm dont know what bios I am using - it doesnt display aything!!
Yeah I red about the CPU. Tried an X6800 same result.
DO those boards make any sound at all? Like beeps and such? I dont even get a beep out of it.

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no beeps i can hear of...

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

EVA! a little feedback on the Abit IP35 Pro.

the only difference was higher FSB (495) for my Q6600 and higher memory bandwidth:

still about the same performance as the QuadGT which was limited to 410 FSB...except...the memory bandwidth.

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not bad at all how's everest bandwidth look ?

Alastor2262, thanks for info on your yellow vs black dimm slots :)

Are there any workarounds to the onboard crackling problem? In some games, such as Serious Sam 2, I get godawful crackling and would really like to find a way to fix that.

This is my first 500FSB.

Attachment 60576

CPU: 1.35V
NB: 1.55V
SB: 1.20V
Memory: 2.35V
All set in BIOS.

nice.. using my E6700 i can confirm strap change stil at 500FSB.. so 499FSB much faster bandwidth ;)

2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500
Asus P5K Deluxe (black dimm slots)

Yes yet another kit of 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 at 2.2v rated modules :D But this time in the black memory dimm slots which have been confirmed to overclock memory much better than yellow dimm slots. Look at these tight sub timings at 3-30-3-3-3 :)

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...cial8500_4.jpg

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...cial8500_1.jpg

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...cial8500_3.jpg

System

• Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 L629B079 B2
• Corsair Nautilus 500 3/8" ID
• Asus P5K Deluxe 0311 bios
• 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
• 2x1GB Crucial PC2-8500 Ballistix dual channel kit in black dimm slots
• 74GB WD Raptor 8MB on SATA 2 port
• Pioneer DVR-08 Burner
• Sony FDD
• 1KW PCP&C SLI psu
• WinXP Pro SP2

2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 @626Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.20v

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JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 376
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1253
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.45v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

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http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m55s875ms.png

2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 @640Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.35v

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JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 384
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1280
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.4875v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.35
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

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Thanks to Crucial PC2-8500 Ballistix's ability to hit 640+ mhz 5-5-5-9 3-30-3-3-3 at just 2.35v, I've managed to beat my personal best <3600Mhz Super Pi 32M time by ~4 seconds :D

1 second behind best 32M time at <3600Mhz.

Straight boot from bios @7x510FSB 4:5 637Mhz 5-5-5-9 3-30-3-3-3 at 2.35v

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m09s406ms.png

New PB for 32M at <3600Mhz.

Straight boot from bios @7x510FSB 4:5 637Mhz 5-5-5-9 3-30-3-3-3 at 2.35v
- Setfsb bumped to 7x513FSB 4:5 641Mhz 5-5-5-9 3-30-3-3-3 at 2.35v

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Next setfsb step from 513.9FSB is 514.7FSB so just overshot the 3600mhz mark for this run.

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m03s125ms.png

Thanks for all those test shots EVA, they are very helpfull to see the differences in settings. I wonder when the beta bios 403 will be out?