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This thread is about Gigabyte, basically how to improve their products with input from end user:)
Lets get back to topic guys...Peep can open another thread to start comparing this board and MIVE.
If you have nothing but problem with this board...return it. If you think the other board is much better then get the other board. As simple as that:(
why you think gigabut gonna issue a refund lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
i got the other board waitin 2 months on an rma
personally i think people need to be properly informed repeately
to make the proper choice
if no one complains companies like gigabut would care less to give proper support
i dont get my boards for free
and i wouldnt want a free board if i gotta kiss the ass of a company
you think 2+ months for an rma is normal
funny thing is after all these months no improved bios
if gigabut makes a proper bios you will never see me complain in this thread
no one gonna stop me from complaining
who ever does not wanna see my posts can use the ignore feature gigabut reps or employees included
You are welcome to open a Gigabyte complain thread:)
I have no problem with any Gigabyte board purchased since K8NF-9 nforce 4
+1 Dumo,this is the title of this thead i believe ***Official***Z68X/P67A-UD7 Club/Discussion/Info** not the slag off Gigabyte thread,lol!!!
I total disagree with you dumo this is exactly the place to report problems with this board , and let end users know that after you spend you 350 dollars your stuck with a board that gigabyte stop giving proper support to after 6 months , what a joke . . Sergio tested the new bios and it wont even go higher than 1333 in memory . . . " nice testing giga "Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
so now what am i to do shut my mouth and get another board " As simple as that " , no i don't think so , gigabyte needs to update there last flagship motherboard bios properly , Plain and simple
+ 1Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Then state the problem(s) clearly (exp. You can run bbse ram @ 2220 6-9-6-24 all day, but some hypers won't even boot @ 2133 no matter what you do) not just randomly posted "gigabyte sucks, dont buy it" kinda thing everytime Stasio posted a new beta bios.
I'm not a fan of any specific brand of board and no way this board easy to overclock, but isn't impossible to run a sucessful good bench......if peep now how to do it right
i see what your saying about every time Stasio releases a beta bios there alot of :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing " which thanks stasio on all his updates " but we had more beta bios on this board then anything. . if you look at the b2 and b3 there was maybe two regular bios and those werent the most stable , i don't feel it take more to oc and make stable this board as i have a friend with a mive and its a bit more complicated , I just feel there a bios mess , you get a bios that has something good " no reboot loop" then something bad " damn now lets change the llc "Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
make a stable bios where all works and keep the testing of new features into beta untill you can get tested , i feel gigabyte must have just like one guy testing this bios for this board and he gives them thumbs up . . .
like i said this is a good board when it works , but it could be a great board , if they get some good testing and make a good bios . . but if they feel they're not making money no more and we are on our on own. . . i have to give the thumbs down to this company as it only been 7 months
+1 thats exactly itQuote:
Originally Posted by the_real_7
some people get the board for free and wont complain for fear of not gettin free stuff
Dumo you remind me of dinos in the x48 thread protectin his bosses
we are not tweaktown over here;)
I bought all my 2600Ks and P67 boards...No free meal for me:(Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
You do not know me and vice versa and I don't have no boss(es) to report to when it comes to hardware. All I know that my sponsor are always Paypal and Newegg. Lol
see ? You where wronggg we wonnn on your own land !!! Uruguay for the cup yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by osterman
I recently upgraded my board from a P67-UD7 to a B3 board. I noticed right away that my system would not go to sleep, but would immediately wake up if I tried putting it to sleep. Poked around and found the F4 BIOS (my board came with F2). Flashed the BIOS and now when I put it to sleep, it won't wake up!
Click the mouse, move the mouse, click the keyboard, press power button on tower, no difference. Then I hit the reset button and the computer reboots and says "Resuming windows" and when it starts everything is open the way I left it. So it looks as though my system is hibernating, not sleeping, even though it says S3(STR) in the BIOS setting. How do I get this system to sleep and wake up normally? My original (non B3) board slept just fine!
to be very honest I push for a lot of BIOS changes, with every new release, so don't act as if people with the board don't say anything. Just becuase we don't :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: in public doesn't mean we don't have problems and report them.
People who get stuff for free, are worthless if they just keep saying its great.
lets hope this last F5 has all we want a stronger LLC and they fix mem issues and connection to P67A with Touch BIOS util
yea hopeuflly it will, i know F8C for the Z68X-UD7 was pretty good step as was for the P67A-UD7 but the memory issue that is crazy haha
B3....probly forever on F4 bios
Both rams run ok for benching
Gskill 2133 C8
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/523...enshot090i.jpg
GT 2000 C8
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1...enshot134k.jpg
great benches dumo, so far F4 nice for benching but for me F3H for 24/7Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
cant wait for F5 and to tweak using touch bios
cheers !
Sergio
i have a quesiton, what benfit do you have with Touch BIOs that you don't have normally?
Hi , how long away is F5 for ud7-b3, thanks
Are you guys all using ET6 to check your CPU voltages when overclocking? I was wondering how accurate it is to go by since I just installed a 2600k on a Z68 UD5 board and clocked it to 4.5Ghz with the voltage set to Auto and LLC disabled in the BIOS and ET6 is reporting 1.272V under load with HW Monitor and the actual voltage being set by the BIOS looks to be 1.3750V. Core Temp is reading 1.3861v and CPU-Z doesn't seem to support the newer Gigabyte Z68 boards yet.
I recently got me a Z68X-UD7-B3. Really liking the board so far, great quality.
I tried to run Memtest(+) but each time i do it doesn't seem to want to run right.
Now i read somewhere this is common for Z68 chipset or SB setups or so.... can anyone here confirm what the real cause might be?
(I'm still on stock settings btw; Z68X-UD7-B3, 2600K, 2x4GB Ripjaws-X PC12800 CL7, Seasonic X-850).
Here's what i see when i run Memtest from the latest UBCD:
http://members.home.nl/djthesp/PC/memtesterr.jpg
ur memtest is out of date... http://www.memtest.org/#change
4.20 adds support for SB.
thanks mate i was using outdated also :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatbird
Anyone try or know how the Z68XP series clocks? Im looking at the Z68XP UD5. This will be for benching.
GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 - F8fQuote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
GA-P67A-UD7-B3 - F5e
For Z68X memory is fix.
http://i5.aijaa.com/b/00923/8339205.jpg
thanks stasio, for P67A ? not fixed ?Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
I didn't check P67A,can you do?Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Thanks.
yeah but at nite its 9:38am here working now, maybe Dumo try it firstQuote:
Originally Posted by stasio
either way when i get home i try
cheers !
Sergio
btw. we won against Argetina :)
today with Peru for the finals
Nope mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Btw,
good luck.
yep works ok on p67 i'm still using my b2 board flashed with the z68 bios and all working as it should:up:
http://www.gbwatches.com/pics/8fbios.jpg
nice glen why dont u flash it with the one for P67A ? F5e ?Quote:
Originally Posted by GLENBOY
Your CPU-Z show still P67A and Vcore is probably OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by GLENBOY
As me before,when I first time crossflashed to Z68.
2 weeks ago I flash back to P67,testing something and crossflashed again and suddenly CPU-Z show Z68X (Vcore wrong).
Somebody will try for sure,another 2-3 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Thanks for the info. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatbird
stasio
MEM fixed on F5e ;) here's proof
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9067/50152133.png
Next i will try Touch BIOS
Flashed as backup all runing ok for now
***edit TOUCH BIOS NOT working same as before soft reads all but wont let me enter to Volts settings crashes there here proof
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6717/capturadn.png
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
cheers !
Sergio
What was wrong with the memory on other the BIOS version then?
Because i am noticing something strange with my memory latencies....
In my BIOS the Latencies are set to 7-8-7-24 and in CPU-Z, AIDA64 and Memtest86+ v4.20 it shows up as 8-8-7-24. :?
Right now i have F5 on my Z68X-UD7-B3 but F7 is the latest.
Should i flash to the latest version?
talking about P67A F5x bioses would post 1333 mem even if you put 2133 inside BIOS, now fixed with F5e but waiting them to fix Touch BiosQuote:
Originally Posted by Da_maniaC
cheers !
Sergio
What about the vcore offset? Is it possible to use simultaneously the vcore offset with multi LLC?
It was possible with f3h but not with f4.
sup jacekQuote:
Originally Posted by jacek
the only time i used that feature i almost killed the chip lol i put a wrong number and went up like crazy so i never use it again
im waiting LLC7 to by stronger than on F4 testing it right now as even having same LOAD i need than on F3H i have BSOD on IDLE with new bios releases...lets see now
cheers
Sergio
Have to give the F5e a whirl tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Thanks again stasio
well stasio
i really quit its really painfull, bsods on IDLE with this bios exact like F4...touch not working again no matter what...F3H still seems the best BIOS but i expected a bit more work from gigabyte since we dont only bench, those new bios are nice for bench but really painfull for 24/7 at least on my tests...
cheers
Sergio
OK,thanks....it's only internal test Beta BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
For sure need different setting then F3h or F4.
At least GB Taiwan working on it every day.
Adjusting DVID & Multi-level loadline at the same time is not allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacek
i dont doubt on that stasio hope they make a good one and better than F3H, just came home anxious at lunch to test it and failed failed failed such a painfull feelingQuote:
Originally Posted by stasio
cheers and thanks for all
Sergio
Every JZ BIOS for me (on Z68x BIOS) set at 1.66V,in TouchBIOS show 1.68V.
ET6 is OK.
Btw,
anybody on latest ET6 B11.630.1,showing LLC levels only "Default".
Previous B11.512.1 is OK.
http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/ClientUs.../B11.512.1.jpg
http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/ClientUs.../B11.630.1.jpg
Note:
Please note that this beta BIOS is still under testing and not approved by GBT standard test procedure .
Touch BIOS Utility B11.0720.1
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...touch-bios.exe
On other motherboards it is possible.:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatbird
Currently I have ASROCK Z68 ext4 and has no problems with LLC and vCore offset.
with the oringinal 3 levels of LLC, found in previous BIOSes such as F3H for the UD7-B3 it is possible, but when they added 10 levels for more control it sacrificed DVID offset at teh same time.
Do you still BSOD on idle if you raise the CPU PLL voltage to 1.88v?Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
What does "Improved LLC" mean? Does it mean that you no longer get massive undershoots or overshoots with LLC6 and LLC7 anymore or something? So cryptic....has anyone tested the voltage spikes? F3G/F3H had perfectly predictable and steady vcores.....(load about 0.012-0.016v higher than idle at LLC2 on UD5/UD7 B3's...)
my PLL is on 1,86 and i BSOD on IDLE yes...now i went to F3H againQuote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
try pll 1.6-1.65Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
i sold my board so i wont be in this thread again
i finally learned my lesson never again another gigabut board
Have to say the same , Im getting of this bus now . found a mive used for 260.00 , time to put the P67A-UD7 up for sale, was fun when it worked and a great 3dnumber cruncher board, hopefully gigabyte restructures itselfQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
hope you get a nice MIVEQuote:
Originally Posted by the_real_7
i bet it does 400mhz more than the gigabut
thanks man ! ! ! me to , back to sandy bridge o/c 101 should be fun and now my two 6970 can get some breathing roomQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Hey guys,
I just installed my motherboard still BIOS F2.
Wanted to know which is the best BIOS as of right now?? so i can flash to the good one :P
Thanks guys
it means they fixed the fact that on the Z68X-UD7 every level drops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
Final BIOS will be out 1 hour time.
-Support GIGABYTE TouchBIOS
-Support Intel 22nm CPU
Does this include P67?Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Thanks
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...3761&dl=1#biosQuote:
Originally Posted by Devil_Dog
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Lets' see how this one pans out.:rolleyes:
Flashed to F5 bios and ran Touch bios without issue, so far so good !!
can you tweak volts from windows now ? on Touch Bios ?Quote:
Originally Posted by andyr(uk)
thanks stasioQuote:
Originally Posted by stasio
How do you enable Touch Bios?
you have to download it, its an application
sin0822 , according to you which bios is the most stable for overclocking, i just updated to f5 and i BSOD when trying to prime after 5s with 5ghz and 1.52V, maybe my chip is bad i dont know.
But id like to have the best bios to work with . Thanks
F3H. would be nice you read above and all the thread, new bioses has been a pain for all of us i didnt try F5 but just for what u say i just guess its the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by qgshadow
my experience with newer bioses is
i passed tests or just use the PC on X volts LOAD...then i go to newer bioses put that exact LOAD volts or more and BSOD test BSOD idle...painfull
test the one i say
cheers
Sergio
Here is modded F3h with:
1. Intel® RAID ROM 10.6.0.1091
2. Realtek LAN ROM 2.41
thanks stasioQuote:
Originally Posted by stasio
what does Intel® RAID ROM 10.6.0.1091 improves beside the obvious ?
cheers !
Sergio
Trying the Z68XP UD5 board.
Impressions so far:
Clocks memory higher and requires less vdimm.
That is the only plus I have seen so far.
Requires more vcore for same CPU clocks.
Will not boot the 2 56x chips I have using x56. Need to use 55 and raise blck, but not very stable.
I started at 55x and just played with memory clocks and timings. At first I was very impressed....then I tried 56x with no luck. So I installed the second 56x chip and still refuses to make it to windows.
thanks stasio all the bioses with the 10 levels of multilevel llc have been crap for me but the f3h just has the 2 levels like the old bioses had and thats all whats needed best bios for me since f7e and thats a while back :up:
spot on sergio f7e was last bios that was ok f3h seems similar but all the newer 10 levels of llc i can't get stable at the same volts which the older bioses just walk itQuote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Mostly for newest SSD with RAID.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
yeah but F3H doesnt have 10 LLC just the good all onesQuote:
Originally Posted by GLENBOY
ah ok i have my intel X25G2 on raid0 u recommend me to update it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
I don't know what is improvement,but for sure nobody complain and mostly people ask for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
thanks mate !Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Hi , i adjusted the volts up and saved to cmos and then on system restart the voltage altered ok , then i went to reduce back down to 1.35v and the tab had disappeared so seems to be a bit of a bug there i guessQuote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
btw good luck for Sunday !!! i hope you win it
well thats a start mate, im still on F3H no BSOD on idleQuote:
Originally Posted by andyr(uk)
i appreciate your wishes very much we deserve the cup, we got our boy Luis Suarez playing on Liverpool there (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lal_...eature=related) :up:
cheers !
Sergio
Heh , Im starting to regret buying a UD7, everyone seems to hate on that board. Last night i did a OC trial with my CPU and it was a really bad blocker 4.8ghz 1.5v, Instant BSOD on Prime 95. I Ordered a new CPU, i hope this is the board causing all those BSODs. :(
it aint the board my friend its a very strong one but u need to use the right bios, use F3H stay out of troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by qgshadow
and i have a B2 revision still runing strong
i benched 3D at x54 and SPI on x55 on water at 1,64 vcore, raided on SSD and HDD did many things even if there´s another better one and i can get it i will keep this
cheers !
Sergio
Just what Sergio said. I've had some strong runs with this board. It's most likley the chip. No two chips are the same with SB. It's luck of the draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by qgshadow
Look at dumo. He's been killing it with this board and some rocking ships as well.
yes maybe my fault as i was complaining about the newer BIOS not the board i love the board and as i said mine its even a B2 flashed to B3
well for one the guy that hates on GB hated on GB before he bought the board, zsamz or whatever, from before he bought the board he hated it.
Either way its a strong board, it can OC very high, you just have to know how to use it.
BIOS is the only problem I see with this board, and well all the good OCes with the P67A-UD7-B3 are done with F3H, with the three original levels of LLC, no boot loop, good memory clocking. The only thing is ppl think that BIOSes after that should incorporate the same things that BIOS did, but they don't. Maybe its to improve overall compatibility with other products, but there are some problems with RAM clocking really, and the 10 levels of LLC, which seem that they were done to make this board more compatible. In all they aren't that big of a problems, a normal OCer would never notice them. if you want a great OC BIOS for the UD7-B3, try F3h and flash your backup BIOS to it as well.
We have seen people hit almost 6ghz with this board, so yea it OCes very high, and RAm OCing is good too you just have to use the right BIOS.
If you want to know about this board more please just read through this thread, you'll hear complaints and then praises of different BIOSes for different tasks.
In all this board is fairly new, and i think the BIOS support would be stronger if Intel never had this stupid bug, making everyone change their BIOS code, and then releasing Z68, its hard to keep up with all the new releases for the same board really. This board has three different types: P67A-UD7, P67A-UD7-B3, Z68X-UD7-B3.
The UD7 is a great board for any 24/7 machine with a heavy OC, that is what its built for, but if you want to do extreme OC you need to use BIOS F3H, as that is the best BIOS for it.
Yea I flashed to F3H, and i saw some people still mod the F3H with newer "drivers"? and i flashed to the latest F3H.
How do you flash the backup bios?
And as if right now im still waiting for my new chip. I RMA'd the other one, it was such a black clocker damnn.
And since i don't wanna rely on OC guide too much.
To OC 24/7 5-5.1ghz I just need to raise the Vcore and put LLC1 or LLC2? and leave all the other voltages on auto?
disable rapid boot on BIOSQuote:
Originally Posted by qgshadow
when starts to POST (when the light of the keyb turns on) hit ALT + F12 you will be prompted to backup BIOS
F5 a bit easier with hyper
LLC10 Vcore 1.555 bios
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8...enshot135o.jpg
spot on sin , just need a bios that will support the new ivy cpus don't know whether f3h does , just with the 3 original llc levels, i love the board and mines a b2 and had no probs really and none of my sata port have corrupted and i use my ud7 for hours a day, i have the b3 f3h bios at the moment and have had the z68 bios on it as well no probs
thanks sin
Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
+1 for that i have my B2 using F3H no probs on satas and using 2xSSD raid0 and 3xHDD on raid0 all portsQuote:
Originally Posted by GLENBOY
great 3dmark 2001 score Dumo ... what cooling do you have on the video card? is that a 4890?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
I can confirm the same: UD7 B3, bios F3H and zero problem so far.. the board is a lot more stable of the early bios on B2 ( bootloop, etc ). before i had too the B2 and with latest bios, the board was ok too.
I use 2 SSD in Raid0 on the SataIII port + 2x 1To SataII + 2x old 500go SataII HDD, no problem at all.
Nice score Dumo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Had some issues with the Z68XP UD5 but since flashing to latest bios F3, it works great.
The rebooting issues are gone, it recovers from a failed oc like it should.
Clear cmos button works first try without having to hold it down for ever, removing battery, 24 pin or removing a stick of ram.
Switching out memory kits is no longer a pita because of the boot loops.
I dont even need to clear cmos now to go from PSC to hypers. It will reboot twice, third time it goes to bios, and I just change timings, sub timings, vdimm, set the multi back to 56 and it boots like a champ.
Clocks the 56x chips easy now using the 56x multi.
Its better with hypers than the p67 ud5/ud7 and requires much less vdimm. Running a kit of 2333 c9 hyperx 2133-2150 6 9 6 27 at 1.72v, and the 2000c8 hyperx hypers at 2150 7 7 7 24 1.76v bios.
It also allows me to use the 2000c8 Dominators at 2133 7 7 7 24, but only for 3D benching, still wont pass 32m but its a big step forward from before.
Props to Gigabyte for getting this right :up:
This is my benching rig and OS, with a 2x1gb kit I use for everything but 32m. I really dont care about 24/7 stability at 5ghz, its not needed for web surfing and the few other things I use it for.
This is the first LinX Ive run in months, and honestly I dont miss stability testing a bit. But I did a very short run with this rig just for fun. It wont pass with memory at 6 9 6, would take a large bump in vdimm, so I used 7 9 7 to keep it low.
Using a fairly good water cooled setup for this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
man you posts soundin like your first review total gigabut pr
we all know you a gigabut reviewer and ....you gonna kiss gigabut for freebies
get a clue the bios makes the board
why you think an asrock board is good DUH it got a better bios than gigabut
wtf you talkin 7 months for a board is not new
so how old is f3h huh:rolleyes:
good for 24/7:rolleyes: maybe for those who clock below 4.8
so why you think i hate gigabut as a company
the bios support is lacking and they rush to be the first to get board out n release boards before they are finished
and i've bought almost every chipset gigabut ever made in the past 10 years
and only the p45 and x58 series were good
my little gene-z is spankin my x ud7 in every way
Just finished installing my new rig into my own case this evening. :)
Everything was going perfect until i noticed that my Windows logon loading time got raped!
After continuously searchin what the problem could be (uninstall application > reboot... and so on and so on...) i finally found out it was the Gigabyte Smart 6 application that slows down the windows logon dramatically.
Without Smart 6 my windows logon takes 3-4 seconds at most (after typing in the password). With the software installed it takes about 12-14 seconds!
Just a heads up. :)
Other then this im loving the board!
I am not going to make a fight, but GB doesn't tell me what to say, i say as i see it. So please. I also don't suck up for free stuff, i say what i want to say, i am not a 15 year old walking around without a bankroll, I don't suck up for a motherboard LOL, get it through your head. Does this review sound like I am sucking up?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ing-P67-V-Z68))
I do agree the BIOS could be better, but F3H is a good contender, and the newest most recent BIOSes aren't half bad. Its just a short time before we see better BIOSes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
get your facts straight before you start typing
how freekin old is f3h lol
ya you not a kid but lol you twist n plain out lie
you got caught in lies in your first review;)
if i buy hw i gonna be honest good or bad
if it was good i wouldn't sell it @ a loss i woulda kept it as a backup
you a gigabut suckup
now go get your next free luch or board ....
Hey Zsams..What is your problem? You crapped on this thread long enough. You don't like it...then its fine, but please just leave this thread or ignore it, you don't use this board anyway (NOW)Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Just try to cool this board and a high multi 2600K with subzero then probly you can see what I'm talking about:)
You probly only run it with water
Just a friendly suggestion:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
i was ignorin this thread till i was told sino822 used my name
you think i didnt go subzero with the board lol
its the first thing i did
booted once @ 54x n ich died
bought a sata controler days later
not pickin a fight
but i can finish one
So,where is your words? :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Btw,
with latest BIOS,Turbo Boost work as per Intel spec....x38. ;)
http://www.intel.com/support/process...28cs-032279%29
http://i10.aijaa.com/b/00712/8361632.jpg
-When memory XMP used,all for cores are x38 (?).
-When BCLK Clock Control "Disabled" it's show 100.3 MHz in CPU-Z.