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shazbom the sleeving that Malik is using right now in the new Project are the Bitfenix cable Extensions. You can check that information in his worklog.
I have the new Blue Sata cable sleeved from Bitfenix and they are just fantastic, no heatshrink anymore, just Sata Cable plus the Sleeve :up:
MDPC-X Black, B-Magic, Grand Bleu:
http://psychosleeve.com/photos/Dan%20B/24pin.jpg
http://psychosleeve.com/photos/Dan%20B/pcie.jpg
Stunning work as usual Martin:)
As far as I could see... all of you sleeve extenders and not the direct cables of the psu, isn't it?
Because... I want to sleeve my psu, but until now, using extenders gave me problems with voltages.
Apart from that I will buy an AX1200 which is fully modular, but well I will have to work on the original cables.
Another thing, in the corsair psu, the cables which are not sleeve, for example the sata ones. Al the wires are attached to each other, so if I sleeve them I will have to pull to the sides each cable isn't it?
Thanks!!!
were can i see his projectbuilds ????Quote:
Originally Posted by guilleguillaume
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...y-Malik/page75Quote:
Originally Posted by kskz_91
Here you go.
Can somebody show me pictures on: MDPC-X Copperbrown & Color-x, Copperbrown & Black ???
@ Martin
Very very nice. Sleeve my psu? haha
somebody ?????Quote:
Originally Posted by kskz_91
My first sleeving :D
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/3024/img0727g.jpg
What I have to do now is cut the ends where the black rubber is and leave them all of the same size.
Can somebody show me pictures on: MDPC-X Copperbrown & Color-x, Copperbrown & Black ???
From another forum:
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You can't post art in this thread, it's about sleeving =DQuote:
Originally Posted by deejay500sl
Still, I'm sure thoose pics have been posted before (?) by Martin himself!
nice but why the heck is the brown sleeve almost orange in theese photos????????Quote:
Originally Posted by deejay500sl
Because that's what color they are.
Did someone tried to sleeve the cables but using just the thermal ends? I mean, not the sleeving and then the thermal stuff to grab it to the ends of the wire, just all the wire with material used at the ends.
I hope to be clear enough, because I don't know how do you call the thermal material to grb the sleeve to the wires.
I want to try that on some cables.
So if someone has done it, would be nice to be seen.
DAMN!, thet wont be good enought for my project Chocolate Temptation :(Quote:
Originally Posted by MrNovi
you mean sleeving without any heatshrink ???? i have done that but not with regular sleeve, i will try it later when i get some from nils for my project!Quote:
Originally Posted by Osterman
Heatshrink that is how you call it!Quote:
Originally Posted by kskz_91
No, what I tried to say was to sleeve the cable with only heatshrink, so you buy long pieces of heatshrink and use them along the wire without the already known sleeving. just heatshrink.
btw I saw many wires where I cant see the heatshrink but I thought that it was pretty small and covered by the plastic connector, but I'm wrong isn't it? I mean there is no heatshrink at all in those wires, isn't it?
Thanks!
thats what already comes around the wires, each color represents a voltage, some come as all black (corsair hx series)
pure heatshrink cable...hmm...im pretty sure i got a molex-sata adapter with my tyan board that was done bulk with heatshrink (4 wire bundle), looks fairly...ugly and is incredibly stiff, once i can get it uploaded I'll post it
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...r/IMG_5794.jpg
But what I would do is use for example red shrink for each cable, like when we sleeve and use sleeve for each cable, but now just shrink.Quote:
Originally Posted by DragoonXX
I will see if I do this on the eps connector and I will see how it looks because I already have the 24pin sleeved in the way we all know, each cable separately with sleeve and shrink on its ends.
That combat green sleeving is really nice. Before I was going to use green 550 paracord for my Sabertooth build, but now I might have to reconsider.
Wow, the pics in the thread have just pointed out to me how much of a noob I am. Amazingly high quality work.
Just wanted to say that molex pins/plugs and sleeve fraying are among my most hated things.
For curosity's sake, what convinced you guys to unisleeve everything in the first place? (This is more pointed at Nils and crew than everyone else...) I bought my MDPC sleeving, sleeved a lot of stuff (and it all looks fantastic) but when I did stuff like my 8-pin EPS and the 24-pin ATX I noticed that I was creating bulk, not getting it out of the way of my airflow. To be perfectly honest, I'm the kind of person that would rather not see wires at all. But I thought that while sleeving certainly was an aesthetic choice, it was also designed to control the wires in a build, which unisleeving doesn't do.
I am not saying the rigs don't look great, I just wonder about that (I tend to do a LOT of my modding dictated by perfomance first and aethetics second, which is why they all take so blasted much planning.) Anyone care to weigh in on that?
I finally figured out a way to sleeve my stuff in such a way that it provides benefits not unlike bundling it with floral wire as well as reducing its profile to get it out of the way of airflow, though it's probably not everyone's cup of tea (though neither is this, so we're even) and when I get my SS Zeus finished I'll post pics (in another thread, so as not to derail this one) so people can say if they like or don't.
If you like to have no cables at all - go ahead and build a system without cables (where you don't like to have them)
I have to admit - for me performance comes later than design BUT till now I didn't have any loss of performance because of any "design-thing" ;)
But if you like less cables this might show you how it could be done:
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There are only these few short cables to Power the MB and VGA card visible ;)
But even in a system with all wires visible I didn't have any problem with the air...
As you can see there is only the CPU cooler between the front (where the cold air comes from) and the rear fan...
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I think what you need to do is just finding the best way to rout the sleeved wires in your PC...
This brings me to one question: Do you have any pictures of this system you talk about?
it seems a lot more thicker than mdpc sleeves, failQuote:
Originally Posted by Smasherbasher
Kayin :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayin
At the end of 2007, Charles (my secret brother^^) built the murderbox 001 and if you remember the days before Charles made this marvelous system - it changed the aesthetics of "modding" (a word which we don't like to use for such systems) a lot. Before there was mostly "bling" added to systems and the designs were rather "cartoonish". I love all designs though, no matter how it looks, as long as the builder had a vision and executed towards this vision.
He sleeved his 24-pin, because the standard PSU cables of the 24-pin were a visual distraction from the rest of the design. So he tried to get a subtle and uniform look to the chaotic 24-pin wires. The solution is what changed the cable-designs a lot. See the system here: http://www.million-dollar-pc.com/sys.../murderbox.htm
I also have to laugh, when I read product descriptions of "modding-shops", when they refer to "it enhances your cooling, airflow ... and brings you more girls". To Charles and me, it was always a different perspective: Design and aesthetics of the most annoying thing in a system ... little wires which never had design in mind and were too thin to create controlled "shapes and lines". Cable sleeving is of course not needed for anyone who wants function and performance. Only fools and stupid shop guys would tell you about "technical advantages". You all know these fool-shop-owners who do everything to sell their items, because they are so desperate to earn their bucks.
So ultimately and personally I say: It's an option to perfectionize designs if cables are visible (of course not with extensions, where you have to hide the original-cable-clutter somewhere ... which is double nonsense for people who want to have form and function combined). I actually see design of cables as something, where you use cables to create flow through lines and shapes. To add color, where color is needed ... I see computers like a 3D painting and cables allow you to use something which is technically needed to create "the strokes". With other items, you don't have the freedom to work "3D", because you can't just take your GPU and bend it ... or other hardware.
@Junkun and Janik: What a joy to be free of these "buy from me, pleeeease buy from me, hello here ... buy from me" people and their postings here at XS. May into never turn into the mess we see in other forums :)
I really appreciate that answer. I think I get exactly what you mean-it's integrating wiring into a cohesive whole, rather than trying to plan around it. By that logic, I agree 100% with what you're doing.
I started modding in the days of flat ribbon IDE and SCSI cables and completely ridiculous amounts of wires. I don't know how many cables I flat folded to hide. We were always told that getting them out of the way "improves airflow" and was necessary to get the most out of your system. As time has worn on, fan power and fan placement made what might have been true then a non-issue.
I asked because I was sure there was a good answer-and there is. When I get my system cabled up and ready to show off, I'll send you a link to what I came up with-it's different, but it allows much the same thing. Is it MDPC good? I think you can answer that better than I. But I took my skillset and applied it here, and I personally like the results (which is really what modding is about.) But I have to tell you-my experience with the MDPC-X sleeving was excellent, and I would not hesitate to use it again in the future if I thought it fit the design. I'm glad you took my question as just that and didn't think I was insinuating something against your sleeving. Just as a painter puts down one brush and picks up another, I see it as a different way to do the same thing.
I'm always happy to have a nice conversation too (rare these days in most other forums, because a lot is about money, promotion, sponsoring ... resulting in "putting others down in order to look better yourself" ... you know these people - mostly affiliates of shops/companies or shop owners themselves) getting more and more. We both agree on the most important aspect: It only matters what you think and feel about your own work. If you can impress/surprise yourself with your own abilities, because you know "I (you in person) could not have done it better", then you have achieved something, which many humans never experience. And it has nothing to do with computers. So don't care what others think about your systems, don't think about MDPC, don't think about Oscars ... only think about "what could I have done better ... and why don't I just do it better?"
At least that's my personal attitude. Maybe it makes sense :)
Thanks for being such a nice and thoughtful XS member!
short answer, because of how long and how hard it is to do, you really appreciate the way it looks afterwords.
its also good bragging rights to say, "yes, i made all those wires" lol.
Thought I'd post my sleeving since I got it done and partially installed. And Nils, I'll get better pics tomorrow if weather permits. I'm not taking my mod outdoors in a thunderstorm.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...33#post4910433
The thread explains why I chose what I chose, and I'm still looking for an unsleeved 8-pin connector to fix that cable length issue. I just used what I had. Of course, it's also far from done.
Most cable sleeves are designed for 18 gauge wire, will MDPC-X small sleeve fit over 16 or 14 gauge wire?
What is the difference in diameter between the SATA and USB sleeves that MDPC-X sells?
You can use 16 gauge wire but i don't recommend it. It is hard to crimp. And the extra diamater can make issues for molex connector after sleeving.
Possibly my new mainboard:
http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/a...5830/Z68E7.jpg
and my chosen sleeving:
http://en.mdpc-x.com/components/com_...46044d42df.jpg
+ some black and silver.
Perfect combo but then you need Gold Bitspower fittings!
I wanted to try somethig new and i went over some paracord, i like the benifis that you can crimp it on together with the pins, that i dont need to use any heatshrink at all, the look of it is just fantastic and very unique, sofar i havnt seen anybody sleeving like this and i wanted to share this with you, i hope you like it so far...
Feel free to give me a comment on my projectlogg, and if you wanna see more or if you like me dont forget to subscribe and rep me!
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthrea...=211895&page=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...09#post4923009
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I can't see the pics.
BTW you're not the first crimping the sleeving together with the cable, tadzik1231 showed us months ago the MDPC-X crimped together with the cable here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...zik&highlight=
Waiting to see the pics.
I know, the bandwith is full, need to extend my photobucket pro but i dont have my creditdard with me her in kosovo -.- damn!Quote:
Originally Posted by guilleguillaume
AWSOME! Then we are two about it :P, i have also done it 4-5monts ago with djungelapa's Fabric look sleeve...there are some pics about that some pages back :)
BTW: Thats not mdpc-x sleeve...Mdpc-x sleeve has a diameter of 5mm...the one he uses is 3mm as the same as i used but in fabric look, but with the fabric look sleeve you dont need pins with longer clamps ;)
photobucket :shakes:
you know you can host pictures for FREE on imageshack.us and many other sites?
Yeah i know but i started using photobucket...imageshack is the same as photobucket with the same limited bandwith!Quote:
Originally Posted by kroks
what more sites are they some with free unlimited bandwith???
Imgur.com seems to be free of bandwidth limitations.
ImageShack allows unlimited bandwidth for images, videos, and slideshows when viewed from our landing page, as well as unlimited bandwidth for registered users
:shrug:
ahaa okeyQuote:
Originally Posted by Alexandr0s
no it isnt, you have to upgrade for unlimited bandwith ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kroks
but i fixed it now :)
Actually i believe i came up with the shrinkless paracord, or at least the first execution of it, and i dont use the crimps, glue or any kind of chemicals. But arguments aside enjoy :)
You an pull as hard as you want on the paracord, and it will never come off, so it can be as tight as you want it to be.
http://pcmodul.us/Images/DSC00086.JPG
http://pcmodul.us/Images/DSC00087.JPG
The color fills the connector all the way up
http://pcmodul.us/Images/DSC00088.JPG
I have done it for a while now, first when i tried with a 3mm thick sleeve that i got from a friend more than one year ago :), then with www.djungelapa.se's Fabric look sleeve which is the same size 6 months ago, there are pics on this thread on it, and now with the paracord 550 it really looks clean and neat :)! I will go for this style all the way ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Furball Zen
But how do you make when you do shrinkless sleeving ??? if you not use the crimps/pins, glu or anything else???
please show me a/some picture/s...would have been very interesting :)
and btw, dont forget to stretch the paracord, it looks awful when its not!
It looks like shoelaces to me. I'm all for the premium look and feel of the MDPC-X sleeve.
^^^I agree....................
Sleeving looks good in good pics, but plasticy in others, but not everyone can afford a $1k+ camera to take pics of their pc :)
Yes... I can't, too...
How did you get such good pics then?
By following the best guides and practising for more than five years ;)
This is how you can get perfect pictures without even thinking about installing photoshop :)
Dang i got lazy, did have of the sleeving, then i needed the tool and i was going to practice on another PSU instead of going right into my Corsair but that was months ago.........
Xien16 do you have any pic with the new Vanilla sands colour and some Red or Blue Sleeving?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xien16
I would appreciate it.
I wanna see vanilla sand, grey (light or dark dunno) and mostly black
plzz :)
Sorry - I don't...Quote:
Originally Posted by guilleguillaume
Just look at post #2652 pic 1 and 2 and hold your hand in front of the white sleeve ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
uh no this is not what i meant:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xien16
[quote]http://xien16.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Colors_s_14.jpg[/img]
In there the grey used is the light or dark one (seems dark)?
but something like:
http://xien16.com/assets/images/db_i...el-fs_s_23.jpg but with the colors i have in mind.
What do you THINK would look better? I thought a ratio of 2-black:1-vanilla sand: 1-light gray. Based on your experience and extremely good taste, what do u think?
uh no this is not what i meant:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xien16
http://xien16.com/assets/images/db_i...olors_s_14.jpg
In there the grey used is the light or dark one (seems dark)?
but something like:
http://xien16.com/assets/images/db_i...el-fs_s_23.jpg but with the colors i have in mind.
What do you THINK would look better? I thought a ratio of 2-black:1-vanilla sand: 1-light gray. Based on your experience and extremely good taste, what do u think?
Did my first power cord yesterday.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...IMG_0522_2.jpg
A few pictures of my work nothing like most of your but, I'm proud of them anyway..
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...f/100_1640.jpg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xien16
Where do you get your sleeving?
MDPC-X.comQuote:
Originally Posted by TheCarLessDriven
When routing your wires behind your motherboard it can difficult shut the side door with a thick diameter 24-pin power cord. For example, try routing the 24-pin power cord of enermax revolution behind the motherboard of a 800D. Doable, but it is pita.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayin
Besides many of us who sleeve spend countless hours with cable management and after the 36 + hours airflow is no longer an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by matari
Xien16, quick Q about the pictures. Why does there appear to be grain/texture on 1/2 of the latest batch of pictures? I assume Nils didn't change the formula of the plastic, so is it just camera noise?
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Hi guys.
I need your help.
I will sleeve the 24pin ATX cable from my new PSU (Silverstone strider plus 850W)
The cables supplied are great because there is no split on the PSU side from the 24pin ATX cable (for example on seasonic it is splitted into one 18 pin block and one 10 pin block).
My problem is that they mix all the GROUND, or +5V or +3,3V or +12V which means pin 3 on the 24pin block PSU side (which is GND) can be for instance on pin 7 on the 24pin block motherboard side.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...PS_signals.jpg
And this is the same for the +5V or +3,3V or +12V cables stated above.
1) Here is my question : Can i switch one GND cable to another GND, one +5V to another +5V, and so on? because the idea is to have for instance pin1 motherboard side go to pin1 PSU side, so my sleevings are nice and do not tangle.
I mean if i test with a multimeter and i have proper voltage values between the pins as depicted on the picture above it should not be a problem right?
2) 2nd question : i have a cable going from pin 20 (PSU side) to pin 13 (motherboard side).
Pin 20 (formerly −5V, white wire) is absent in current power supplies; it was optional in ATX and ATX12V ver. 1.2, and deleted as of ver. 1.3.
So there are 2 cables going in pin 3(motherboard side). Can I remove this cable ? I do not see what it is used for ?
Thanks a lot for your help !! :):)
[edit] nevermind - i read the page properly [/edit]
Hi
Here is my work in two different mods.
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What is this sleeves You have on photos blue/black or red/black ?? I never see any like this. This is not plastic sleeves like from MDPC ?
I believe that the blue/black and white/black are paracord, and not plastic sleeveQuote:
Originally Posted by polandmet
ach so this is normal cord ? they are empty inside ? Normally some cors in shoops or markets are full and there is no place for thinkgs like cables.
Wow this is cool :D I love this.
But Im sure they are not UV active and MDPC-X sleeved are...
from what I can tell, yes- it's paracord, and yes, its empty inside *you can carefully remove the inner core from paracord*
no, not usually UV reactive
Forum: After reading through this entire thread we just wanted to mention from a Broadcast Systems Engineer's point of view we have seen some astounding cabling and labeling projects in my 28+ years but I had never seen it turned into art! amazing.....
We will be dabbling into our Corsair TX 750 this week......LOL
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here you go Guille. Just receive some materials from MDPC few days ago ..Quote:
Originally Posted by guilleguillaume
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and here is my Sleeve Collection
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For those wondering about paracord http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FFB95Q it's pretty inexpensive and seems to give that bitfenix alchemy cable look (except you'll most likely use heat shrink).
What brand/color is the purple sleeving on the bottom left?Quote:
Originally Posted by kuang2
The dark blue sleeving in the second picture. Where did you get this? It looks too bright to be Grand Bleu.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuang2
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xx mark: buy from an auto modding workshop
sample from xx one
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Take a look at the fake one from China:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6161/...54fcb5d6_b.jpg
Where can I buy the purple cord in the bottom left? The 'xx'?Quote:
Originally Posted by kuang2
xx on the bottom left is dark blue, not purple ...
where are you? I'm live in Viet Nam :(
This was realy helpful for sleeving my PCPower TurboCool 1200W Thanx
Where did you find this ?Quote:
Originally Posted by kuang2
Is there any link to a shop or website?
someone fix dem pics on the first page :S
As stated above, it would be really nice if the pictures still appeared. Thanks.
This thread inspired me to, not only to join xtremesystems, but also order my first sleeving kit from MDPC-X (which shipped this morning :D) for tackling a renovation on my current system that includes a Superflower PSU with the funky style modular cables, anyone have tips on these?
http://www.super-flower.com.tw/uploa...2fbf124952.jpg
http://www.super-flower.com.tw/uploa...7d0bf03529.jpg
New cables of mine done by Charles:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...g?t=1325780936
Damn, be nice if the pictures in the first few posts was fixed.
Does anyone else know a guide elsewhere?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1122053/l...tutorials/0_20Quote:
Originally Posted by IronWarrior
Awesome. Thank you very much!Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
Should someone refresh the image links at the first message...
quick question; which sleeve would best match corsair vengeance blue memory?
Hi
I have a Seasonic Platinum, and I have several double wire (MS side), it's possible to "cut" the double wire and have 24pins MB side and 24pins PSU side (and not 28pin PSU side)
thanks ;)