Right now I'm testing CPU @445x9=4005 and RAM @534/5-5-4-9 - all (sub)timings the same sa given few posts aboveQuote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
Everest memory performance looks like this
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4618/x382xy0.jpg
Right now I'm testing CPU @445x9=4005 and RAM @534/5-5-4-9 - all (sub)timings the same sa given few posts aboveQuote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
Everest memory performance looks like this
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4618/x382xy0.jpg
i took out my mushkins with d9gkx to test out a pair of kingston value d9ghm
2.2v
i finally broke 11000 lol
with a little tweakin should get better
my new 24/7:D
cpu 1.54v
vdmm 2.1v
woot nice one zsamz_
zamz nice work, is that your normal 4 gmh sticks but with performance lvl 7 and whats the NB voltage and phase settings still eaeee eaaee
I was looking in the DFI manual and it said that PCIE 1, 3 and 4 are all x16. I'm wondering if there would be an impact on performance if I run my single GPU in slot 4? In case anyone is wondering why, my OCZ xtc ram cooler won't fit with the GPU in slot 1 and my SB waterblock blocks slot 3.
slot 4 is a 4x electrical pci-e1 slot so i wouldent use it for grafix, but slot 3 works great
and u dont need a water block on the SB it barely needs a heat sink
no bud its my crappy kingston value pc2-667 lol "d9gmh"Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
i had to go performance level 8 @ 535fsb lol but phase settings are eaeee
i got another pair in my hr-07s:D
my 2 sets of ballistix 8500 been put away for a rainy day
i put my mushkins that couldnt go past 1155 with 2.32v into my old p35 now they doin 1200+ with 2.22v
i wasnt happy with those d9gkx but my son lovin em now
since i broke 11000mbs my next goal is to break 12000mbs:D
takin a break soon i will see how high i can go lol gonna try 2.32v next
now i really cant wait for my block to arrive so i can flash to the x48 bios on a new block and keep my original intact
Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
:rofl: mine is still something like 7800mbs
Hmm..ok. I got mine yesterday and I set the Vdimm to 2,35v, which is the intended volt at 1150MHz, and I ran them at 1280MHz fine. Will try higher clocks and I'll post screens later on.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
man i thought you had it already biosdepot is quick n cheapQuote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
took 5 days for me to get mine i'm in canada :rofl:
i paid 24$ for 2 chips shipped:D
i miss the days when it way 5$ for a damn chip
my sons pc was @ 8500mbs:rofl: now he happy with 10200:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
i just tested mine in p35c-ds3r n they did 1226 with 2.22vQuote:
Originally Posted by Effet
i couldnt do 1055+ with 2.32v in the x38
New BIOS for the 'bold' ones:
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=A&SITE=US
If you flash it to x48,can you flash it to x38 again?
Anyone tried to flash a x38 to x48 with the 03/20 bios? Results?
Yes, zsamz did:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2531
It's still working. X48 is just a binned X38.
So did felix bg:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2536
Ah sweet, might flash aswell.
Btw http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3228/mem1254rk2.jpg
Was able to boot up at 1300MHz, but as soon as windows started to load, BSOD ruined the fun =/
2,38v is at the edge of doable for me, 2,4 > is quite risky.
I'm not that familiar with the GTL settings. How's the impact of increasing/decreasing them? When is it effective to increase/decrease them?
dont worry i gonna try it verry soon and will report backQuote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
edit:ok i loaded it i see nothing different in performance over first bios
btw i used winflash was lazy lol
edit2:i dont like the new bios system reboots n posting code errors
Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Which hr-07 did you pick up? I'm trying to decide between the older one and the dual. I like the old setup because of the fan mounting and the extra surface area.
the ones i got were the highriseQuote:
Originally Posted by PhilDoc
you gotta get the lower ones to run 4 stix
Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
So you got the H ones? I'll only be running 2 sticks. Trying to decide between the H/L series or the original.
whatever you do get the ones that come in a kit of 2 the singles cost moreQuote:
Originally Posted by PhilDoc
i like em high they get more air "no i not smokin"
you gotta get 2 low n 2 high to run 4 stix not 4 high lol
so did i, and proof that itÄs the same thing isQuote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
a) the flash works
b) the bios says x38/x48 series on the logon screen, so they dont even differ between x38/x48
Performance increase with X48 bios i'd say is wishful thinking....or as eva2000 said probably because NB voltage-table glitch is still in the bios, resulting in dangerously high NB voltages for all "made in china" boards selecting certain NB voltages, resulting in better stability at tighter timings (yeah, running NB at 1.76V, much luck with that :)
I personally dont think the X48 bios is worth it:
a) old bugs are sitll in there (still resetting to default cmos values with 8x multi and certain straps on otherwise stable settings)
b) dangerous NB voltages bug might kill china boards
c) no real performance increase (IMHO)
Yeah, I know. Can you put a fan on the H/L series. I know the singles cost more, but you can mount a fan easily and it has more surface area to cool. I haven't seen any reviews to see witch is better and the cost is only about $4 higher. I'm only planing on running 2 sticks anyway. Maybe I'll just flip a coin, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Are there any aftermraket ram coolers that will still allow the use of the first PCIX slot? I'm almost tempted to pick up the enzotech heatspreaders, but I figure those will still need active cooling.
just use a fan :p
hrm - found something very interestng wrong with my setup
400*9.5 passed OCCT for 30 or so mins so i decided i couldnt be bothered doing any more testing :rolleyes:
I installed HL2 and tried to install the texture pack (mentioned in the news section) but i got a decompression error. i thought it was the download of the pack and thought sod it - uninstalled HL2 and deleted the pack.
i left my machine for a bit while i was downloading all my Oblivion mods (4.63gb's worth so far :D ) and then tried to install Oblivion but got an error at about 75% which i thought was strainge. i tested the Oblivion disk in my laptop and it installed fine.
Tested my hard drives with seagate tools on Hiren 9.3 cd and they passed, so at this point im starting to get confused and decided to stick my machine on a quick Memtest86+ and left it running while i was browsing for some 3870x2 aftermarket cooling. (browsing on my laptop)
i noticed out the corner of my eye after about 16/18mins lots of red errors :eek: all around the 6707mb - 6715mb mark so i went into the bios and set everything back to default values and ran memtest again but got the same failures after about 22mins this time :( !!!
I'm going to have fun testing all my equipment again :rolleyes:
its either;
the board from germany
1 set of ram (2*2gb) from Memoryc.com
1 set of ram (2*2gb) from overclockers.co.uk
i should of just stuck with my e6600 + ab9 pro :rofl:
perhaps i will need 2.1v for the ram @ default speeds? (the rated for the memory) since i have 8gb
why not give it a shot? I know I do not have the same problem as you, but my rams needed 2,38v to reach 1300MHz. Was quite unstable there though so I set the volt back to 2,35v which was the intended volt @ 1150MHz.
Didn't read the posts about GTL setting, quite stupid of me. Thanks Praz and co.
ill be testing the ram in two different machines later (2 sticks in one and 2 in the other) using memtest to see where the culpret is, unfortunatly i have work before then :(
OU:
OCCT/CPU for CPU
OCCT/MEM for northbridge/mem timings
MEMTEST for Windows (!) for memory test
A OCCT test alone (maybe only on CPU) wouldnt find a lot.
Besides i assume you use latest OCCT 2.0.0a/b....then at least one hour at "mix".
Add: forget *bootable* DOS memtest. Its really only good for checking whether ram is defective.
Quote:
Originally Posted by flexy
ah right - well im guessing stick 4 is faulty since i can see errors in the dos version.
always thought the dos one was good?
i noticed board really doesnt like going over 540fsb
feels like its gonna break if if i test beyond 540
How has the temp/volts/fsb been scaling? I can't get pass 510MHz when I feed the nb with 1.5V. Any hints?
Sorry these are very newbie questions, but i was just wondering if this board is going to be able to provide 1600mhz fsb support in the future (bios update) and does this board have auto sensing sata ports so i dont have to reboot when i use my esata drives?
Thanks
you sure your cpu can do 510+Quote:
Originally Posted by Effet
you need to post more settings you using
no auto sensing i tried you gotta rebootQuote:
Originally Posted by drakore
if u use the jmicron it auto senses and if u use the intel raid manager u can refresh a port to find a drive
and this should have 1600mhz support we have teh boot strap and ram dividers, if not just flash to x48 that one dose
also i got new bios block today performance lvl 7 time
one of my sticks of ram is faulty - back to overclockers.co.uk it goes
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3...zfsbjz9.th.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
After 500MHz I always get C1 error. The funny thing is that with my Corsair xms2 PC6400 sticks, I was able to reach 510MHz....:mad:
Sorry but that's BS... I've been using Memtest Boot-CDs for a long time now, as does the company I currently work for.Quote:
Originally Posted by flexy
Works a treat, after 2-3 passes you can be sure it's not your mem holding u back.
Anyway, for 8GB of ram you might need to increase NB Voltage to higher levels and/or tune NB GTL differently.
i had the nb @ 1.5 and had the GTL @ various settings but it turns out that one of the sticks is faultyQuote:
Originally Posted by jcool
Yeah I read that, sorry to hear it. 8GB Ram just needs more NB voltage in general ;)
cool - ill keep that in mind when i get it back :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jcool
1.5 or 1.6v or more?
i used 1.55v for 4 sticks you better but a fan on nb when running 4 sticksQuote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
but i think you might be ok with 1,5v cause you running powerchips
Over 1,5V is a hell of a lot of voltage... I'm running FSB 450 with a quad and 4x1GB @1100Mhz with 1,45V NB 24/7, and it's watercooled. Dunno if I'd go above 1,5V for long.
if i put in NB one of this:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...SLI-IFX_04.jpg
and the original nb cooler that comes with the mobo, can fit in the SB chip ? using a ati 3870x2 ?
I'd just leave the SB as it is. I still have the stock cooler on it and it doesn't even get warm.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcool
my nb temps never went over 34c full load so i think i be ok
why you doing cas5 with the kingstons go cas4 my d9gkx only likin cas4 on this boardQuote:
Originally Posted by Effet
and bump your nb volts till you get it stable
you want 500+ you gonna need 1.45v-1.55v
try getting more out of your cpu i'm sure you can do 3.6+
no room for a fan :rofl: although i do have a standard HR-05-IFX cooler that i can mount on there that i've alreay lapped :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
if i used the sli version wouldnt that hit the gfx card?
Is there any reason that my multiplier on a Q6600 with this board would be locked at 6? I check in bios and it's set to 9 there, but CPU-z shows 6.
u have c1e or speed step enabled, i suggest that u return the board if that got u, u will be lost in the bios
The reason I'm doing cas5 at the moment is because I don't want to stress my rams before finding max FSB. I'll try cas4 aswell then.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
I've creamed on with 1,5v to the NB, but C1 error remains. I was able to push it to 505MHz too.
I've done 4GHz on air with this beauty so of course I will aim for higher clocks, but again, I don't want to stress anything more than the fsb at the moment. After that's done, I'll try to find a sweet spot for all the components.
Thanks, but the sarcasm is unwelcome. First thing I did was set both to disable, but I guess c1e was left on auto. I've been up for just over 31 hours now and spent the last 3 finding out all 4 sticks of my OCZ platinum were bad, same with my generic ddr2.
After 3 hours of a C1 error and finally stealing 2 gigs of gskill back from my dads comp (45 minute round trip) I had this problem. Now I just need to remember to disable my floppy drive next reboot (forgot these last 4 times).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Panthols
goto sleep and try again when you've had some rest :up:
Nah, I have the thing stable at 3.6 now. Wanna see what I can manage.
>>>
finding out all 4 sticks of my OCZ platinum were bad,
>>>
how likely is this???
if you boot into Win and are idle speedstep/EIST is on..so your multi is down at 6x...with a little load it wil jump to the max. Nothing to worry about. Also no need to disable those in bios. Works fine here also with overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Panthols
Wish i could UNDERclock them way more when idle...still using way too much power. I tried rmclock, but i can only go as low as 1.26Vid, if i request lower VCore the Q6600 just doesnt take it. My old A64 is sitting idle at 0.8V !
Woot, 3.737 @ 1.35v wPrime 1024 stable. Hoping to break 4 before I get to 1.45v, then I'll start tuning my ram :D
Edit: 3.9 @ 1.4 wPrime 1024 stable. Sleeping finally, hoping to tweak it a bit more tomorrow. . . errr, today.
Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone has experienced a huge difference between the Prime95 calculations in each core?
This never happen to me before with this same cpu and now it's freaking me out::shocked:
http://i27.tinypic.com/t0sviq.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/2zdp0rs.jpg
Is this normal? Should I be worried? Does this indicates something is wrong?
i put the hr-05-ifx on mine i move v-card to second pci-e slot gave me loads of space for a fanQuote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
my nb temps havent passed 34c even with 1,6v
funny how my nb runs alot cooler than when i had gigabyte x38 even to the touch
flexy try trfc 52Quote:
Originally Posted by flexy
i tested my ocz @ 1080mhz 5-5-5-15-5-52 2.26v
in p35 can only do 1020mhz
update
i got to 500fsb with only 1.4v bumped my gtl by 1 n its stable but only pl8
What ram would you guys reccomend for this board? 2x2gb ~$150 or so?
i thought the middle slot was 8x? or is that in a crossfire + physix enviroment?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
500fsb @ 1.4v is all good :up: what multi?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
both uper pci-e slots are 16x
the bottom slot is 4x
multi is 8
thats good to know - i might move my psu to the top of my case and the gfx card down a slot nowQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Just flashed to the latest bios, seems fine. However, I did load optimized defaults before flashing and couldn't bring my mobo back to posting after that, kept hanging at C1.
So I removed all ramsticks but 1 and it bootet up fine... flashed and put all 4 back in. It does post, but it hangs at the bootup screen saying 50... so I removed 2GB and it works. Very strange... I do hope it didn't fry my Cellshocks (again) when loading defaults or something :rolleyes:
Anyway, played around with 2x1GB of Crucial Value 667 only and the new bios and found the following:
a) it boots up with 266 strap at 445 FSB, something that wouldn't even post before
b) still can't go below perf. level of 8 - no post
c) runs rather nicely at 1066 4-4-4-9 and 2,3V - not bad for 667 rated sticks I guess :D
try setting PL manually with one stick, then adding the rest.
Hey folks! I'm a DFI mobo newb and need a small amount of help:
Can anyone tell me how to find out what bios I'm currently running? I've looked thru all of the screens in the bios and can't find any rev numbers.
I would read through 100+ pages of this thread, but I have a little bit of a life.
Current specks:
E6750 o.c'd to 3.6GHz, 8X mutli at 450 FSB
8GB DDR2 at 2.1V, and all ram timings are set to "Auto"
CPU volts at default.
As you can see, I've only oc'd by changing the fsb. I have a lot to learn about this incredible mobo. The incredible thing is that to achieve this fantastic OC all I've done is increase the FSB. I'm amazed so far. OC'ing has been a bit boring though.
All I need to get finalize my 24-7 OK is to find out if I need to update the Bios or not. I need to know if my temps and volts listed by the bios are trustworthy.
Thanks!!!!
Really having issues getting prime stable past 425fsb. Looking for some guidance my best luck seems to come when increasing the VTT & GTL settings but it seems that they are REALLY touchy. I've been able to post @ 500fsb. I've made it into windows @ 450 but then it locks up. Are there common things with the DFI x38/48 board that I have have overlooked that need to be changed? I have not really touched the ram at all could the 4 sticks be holding me back? Any help is appreciated.
The BIOS date etc is displayed on the first post screen down on the bottom left of your screen but you may miss it if you have the DFI boot screen come up rather than the post screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreGooder
Perhaps the easiest way would be to download CPU-Z, run it & look at the BIOS date on the motherboard tab then check that against whats available from DFI.
CN :)
Stupid FSB walls! I got everything at stock volts, Vdimm at 2.2v. It runs smoothly up to 500FSB, after that, it's a dead end.
Now, I've tried to raise NB volt to 1,5v-1,55v =C1 error.
I've tried the 400/x strap/divider = C1 error.
raising fsb VTT to 1,5v = C1 error.
Mems running at 5-5-5-18.
It's just.....so frustrating, especially when I see zsamz_ hitting higher fsb clocks. :(
One thing struck me though. I had similar problems with my asus P5B board, no matter what volts I fed that bastard it didn't get pass 360FSB. My E6700 is very picky, apparently. Any tips of how to keep pushing it or should I just start clocking with 500*X?
lol i just have a better cpu you lucky to hit 500fsbQuote:
Originally Posted by Effet
on another note i too am frustrated i can only hit 555fsb i know my cpu can do 580 :( i cant wait to get an e8500 my cpu suks or maybe my board
if you really wanna go higher you gotta pump more cpu vtt volts i need 1.52cpu vtt for 500fsb
n only use 333/667 and 333/800 straps
my cpu dose that too i cant get it past 500mhz but i know that it can since i got it used from sniipe_dogg and he had it at 540 posting when i asked before he shipped it, over 500 is just missing something i need to put in
no man missin nothin its the damn board lolQuote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
i wanna just see 1 just 1 of those geniuses from dfi get past 560
i just tested my cpu on my p35 and i booted straight into windows @ 575
and nb is undervolting by 0.04 better chek yours with dmm
Yeah I think it's chip related. Zsamz is one luckky bastard. =/
no i not lucky i seen better onesQuote:
Originally Posted by Effet
if i was gonna tempt my luck i woulda gotten a 6750:rofl:
my old e6400 can go past 550:rofl:
kunak has a nice e6300 he went past 600
edit:for those who havent changed nb heatsink put a 120mm fan on it n watch the temps drop
i took my hr-05/fx off to put a monster 120mm fan on my true
now i gonna mod my hr-07
Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
actually something im curious of. if you have a gfx card int he top slot youre supposed to attach a floppy power cable to the connector just next to it so if you use the middle 16x slot do you need to have the floppy power cable connected to the top or middle conenctor?
whats the proper vco divider for 500mhz + fsb, and would changing the clock gen voltage help to get stable
with or withough same for me i only run 1 card but if you run 2 cards you gonna have toQuote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
333/667 or 333/800Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
just need more nb volta 1.5 should do
Hey zsamz, wanna post your volts (cpu, nb, vtt, gtl, pll) along with memory frequencies @ cas4 for 520MHz? I need them as references so I don't end up with a scorched system :P
thanks in advance.
What defects or options that are disabled between the DFI LP UT P35-T2R and DFI LP LT P35-T2R? Want to know if I really need to spend the extra money on the UT model. Thanks.
Only in heatpipes
i ment if you move your only card down one slot do you need to move the floppy power down aswell?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
So would it be better to just get the LT version for high end OCing?Quote:
Originally Posted by quake6
yes, the UT is useless it cools worse and has connecting heat pipes, so u dont have the option of a watter block with the UT like u do with the LT
Thank you so much for clearing that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
Man this sucks.. wanted to flash to the latest official bios yesterday, so I went into bios and loaded defaults before the flash (naturally).
Note that I was running 2 weeks BOINC without pause with my mem 4x1GB D9GMH@1070 5-5-4-9 with 2,13V and a fan for cooling.
So I loaded the defaults, saved and... C1. Damn. Tried CMOS clear, cut power, nothing helped except taking all but 1 stick of ram out. It bootet right up, I flashed the bios and put them back in - C1. Argh!
So I tested each stick individually today with 3 different mobos and guess what... one of my Cellshocks is dead - AGAIN!
1. I have RMAed my 2Gigs of Cellshock 2 times already when one of them died for similarly pointless reasons (remember: I didn't touch a thing!)
2. What the hell did my DFI do when loading defaults with the official shipped release (!) bios?!
I can't believe this crap is happening to me... again. Never touch a running system, I guess.
Never had such problems with my cheepo 667 Crucial Values also carrying D9GMH - and they only cost 50 bucks as opposed to 200, go figure :rolleyes:
At least Cellshock MSC is located in Germany so I will have them RMAed within a few days. I certainly know the procedure :p:
Hmm...your abit mobo is dead, your cellshocks are dead, again....To me, it sounds like the PSU is the backstabbing rogue here.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcool
sorry to hear that jcool
effet might have a point here.
Of course I have, I'm a red devil ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
Orthos is :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing up, even at stock speeds :rofl: I can bench my system in any way or shape, but as soon as I run Orthos for approx. 1min, the system reboots. Go figure :P
Orthos used to do that to me as well, until about the fifth time I ran it, then it was fine. I don't trust it anymore tho I do use it/shrug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Effet
Larry
Like the DFI would even fire up with a Liberty 500 :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Effet
I swapped it for a Corsair HX520 when I rebuilt my mainrig.
Ah well, still sad to hear =/
so what is the real deal thing wrong with the "china" mobo's. i have one its rev: AA0. i guess it sucks i got one of these?? i keep reading a lot of people saying these china ones suck. someone please enlighten me. thanks
mine is taiwan i think it suks only can do 555fsb:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
i just think they used different part for nb voltage regulator
i think all x48 are made in china i doubt i be buyin dfi again if they gonna charge premium price n get it made cheap
I had a China AA0 and a China AA1 and I can say that the AA1 owned the AA0 in OC capabilities and stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
But then again it could be only down to plain luck.
my board is damn picky i cant seem to do nothin with my mushkins need 2.32 just to get her stable
i put them in my p35 n they rockin @ 2.22
it even hates my micron fatties:mad: only likin d9gmh:(
anyone get past 555fsb on x38 or x48 with dfi