**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

if you are using the difference from what is set in the bios and what is readout as actual voltage, that is a big mistake...vdroop is the difference between actual voltage at idle and the actual voltage at load in windows....forget what the indicated bios voltage setting is set to.

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I always thought...

Vdrop = difference between bios vcore and windows idle vcore.
Vdroop = difference beteen bios vcore and windows load vcore.


at least that's what most users complain about on the internet when reporting vdroop and vdrop. but vdroop is usually what's discussed most because it's what effects stability testing under 100% load. maybe it's just a big misconception, dunno.. but a lot of people think this when reporting vdroop. so many of the posts your read are defined this way... even if it is wrong..

all intel cares about is vdroop...each board is different because the way the board is designed and the way the bios is coded to set vcore.

abit's vcore settings is way off depending on what bios you use...i don't have an explanation of why each bios can be way out of tolerance for the set vcore...to me, it is a whacky way of designing a bios;)

i was once focused on the same thing like you...i just come to the belief that it isn't important after trying almost every beta bios abit has produced for this board and then, seeing the whacky results!...i think abit is just having a difficult time getting the code set to universally support all those processors which have different VID's.

if i were to guess, it probably has something to do with them locking the MCH bus which prevents you from using Memset to adjust the memory settings...in addition, you have the Uguru chip on the board talking directly to the bios via the windows based software.

plus, I really don't get why people get all hung up on having the bios not match what is reported in windows.. it really doesn't matter what bios says, just what is really happening when it's under load and needs the voltage... they might as well put letters instead of numbers next to bios vcore settings, then maybe it wouldn't be such an issue. because a lot of users get all bent out of shape when they set bios to 1.45v, then boot into windows and see 1.4v.... the sky starts falling... as long as I can attain a stable oc, I really don't care what bios says or idle vcore is doing.. .02

same-same for me...i stopped myself from getting wrapped around the axle:D

I have a Xeon 3050 in my Ip35 Pro ver 1.1 bios 16. I struggled back and forth with different memory and finally got some new double sided ballistix back from RMA and decided to take another crack at an overclock.

In the beginning i was a little put off that the bios set the vid at 1.325 and would not let me go below it. But oh well. In the long run 1.325 is all this chip needs to do 3.2ghz. I was pulling my hair out for quite some time trying different voltages on the NB and cpu and different memory timings etc etc. It was getting really frustrating because I was pretty sure this cpu was a capable one. I kept getting blue screen irg_not_egual.....yada yada.....on the uguru.sys module.

It didn't seem to matter how high I set the voltages or how loose I set the timings. And I never got any errors for anything except that uguru.sys. I just kept getting those blue screens every day or so.

So this morning I uninstalled the uguru windows software and the driver for the chip and removed the driver software. I set the FSB at 400 and the memory at 1000mhz with 5-5-5-15 and the vcore is 1.325 (stock) and mch is 1.33v. Memory at 2.2v of course. Everything else at stock.

It does an 18 second superpi million and passes OCCT and Everest stress and memtest86 3 passes and superpi 32 million two concurrent runs.

Now with the uguru.sys driver removed and the uguru chip basically disabled to windows the bios still does fan control and reports temps the same as it should. I imagine if I had thrown 1.46v at it like others have, I might have gotten it stable without the uguru.sys blue screens, but I can't imagine why I'd need to when it runs perfectly sound at stock voltage and 3.2ghz.

These were nice results for a day when it was too hot to go outside. I would have posted this on the abit forum but it has been down for 3 days and the taiwan abit site is gone too. I hope that doesn't mean anything bad.


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what version uguru were you using?...3.104?

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

what version uguru were you using?...3.104?

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No.... it was the new one..... 3.109 I think.

i am using 3.107...give that a try.

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Originally Posted by OC4/3

That huge droop only occur on E3110(Wolfdale) and IP35 Pro bios 14:mad:Something like .15v-.2v,after flash to 16 final,it is much more normal:D But i am using a bad E8400 now:(

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well on Bios 16 with E7200, idle v = 1.3,load = 1.27... was smaller with 65nm but 45nm is pulling more current. the 4phase pwm is prolly being stressed a bit more then before.

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Originally Posted by OgaiB

Did abit ip35pro support celeron d347? If yes, with which bios?

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with any of them... since its older then core 2 and is a netburst based cpu. you will want to stick with bios 14 though for that one, imo.

Any suggestions on the following settings? (Enable, disable, default) Maybe even what they do.
Bios 16
E8400 CPU

Thermal Control
Limit CPUID MaxVal
C1E Function
Execute Disable Bit
Virtualization Technology
EIST Function


Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Yelf

Any suggestions on the following settings? (Enable, disable, default) Maybe even what they do.
Bios 16
E8400 CPU

Thermal Control =Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal=Disabled
C1E Function=Disabled
Execute Disable Bit=Enabled
Virtualization Technology=Enabled
EIST Function=Disabled


Thanks!

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thermal control is using intel TM1 or TM2 in the cpu. for when the cpu core gets hot enough it starts to throttle down to lower temps.

Limit cpuid maxval is for older OS's so no issues there with 2000 or newer. as this is meant for Windows 98 and older.

C1E – Intel’s so-called enhanced halt state. Read Anandtech’s blurb about it here for more. Disable initially, enable later on and see if the system remains stable. This is a power savings option.

Execute Disable Bit - enable. XP has a setting to help with virus protection and requires this set to enable.

SpeedStep - Automatically lowers the multiplier from its max. (9x for the Q6600) to 6x when the machine is idle. The result is less power consumption and heat production. It goes back up to 9x when you start to get a CPU load. Disable initially, enable later on and see if the system remains stable. This is a power savings option.

VT,http://www.intel.com/technology/virtualization/

Thank you very much!

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Originally Posted by Evilsizer

thermal control is using intel TM1 or TM2 in the cpu. for when the cpu core gets hot enough it starts to throttle down to lower temps.

Limit cpuid maxval is for older OS's so no issues there with 2000 or newer. as this is meant for Windows 98 and older.

C1E – Intel’s so-called enhanced halt state. Read Anandtech’s blurb about it here for more. Disable initially, enable later on and see if the system remains stable. This is a power savings option.

Execute Disable Bit - enable. XP has a setting to help with virus protection and requires this set to enable.

SpeedStep - Automatically lowers the multiplier from its max. (9x for the Q6600) to 6x when the machine is idle. The result is less power consumption and heat production. It goes back up to 9x when you start to get a CPU load. Disable initially, enable later on and see if the system remains stable. This is a power savings option.

VT,http://www.intel.com/technology/virtualization/

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HELLO EVERYBODY!!!

I'm about to add three 120mm Yate Loon D12SL-12 side fans for my Stacker 830 ...could use some inspirational build/wiring ideas to keep wirings clean and manageable.
I don't have fan controllers.

So Xs RoB came to rescue

so I was wondering if any of the fan connection on this board I could use to control the noise level with uGuru EQ...I've never used it before.:(
I just installed the uGuru3 3.1.0.7 and I see there is a setting for a quiet mode....is there a way I can set that up?

every fan connection on the board is controlled within Uguru and the bios.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

every fan connection on the board is controlled within Uguru and the bios.

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thanks Ace :up:
....is there a tutorial on how to use uGuru, since I've never used it and not sure what settings to use?
I'm not OC'ing anymore...quite happy with my 2.4Ghz default settings.

Would stringing the three Yate Loons to one connection to the fan connection mobo pose possible threat to the mobo...maybe an overload perhaps?

not sure if there is a tutorial...look on you abit install disc for any PDF files.

i would only mate two fans to any single fan header.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

i would only mate two fans to any single fan header.

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will do :up: thanks
...unfortunately on the EQ, I d/l the pdf (pages 33-35 of manual), it doesn't really describes what setting I should be using...I guess I'll keep diggin..

hello first post here

would like to ask if whats a good max safe vcore for 24/7 oc and what temps should i be worried at max safe temp for the q9450 on a abit ip35 pro

thanks

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Originally Posted by JeffLo

hello first post here

would like to ask if whats a good max safe vcore for 24/7 oc and what temps should i be worried at max safe temp for the q9450 on a abit ip35 pro

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Wrong thread man, check out the Q9450 OC/TEMPS/SETTINGS thread.

Anyway, you the max for 24/7 should be definitely below 1.4v, while others say below 1.35.

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Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek

will do :up: thanks
...unfortunately on the EQ, I d/l the pdf (pages 33-35 of manual), it doesn't really describes what setting I should be using...I guess I'll keep diggin..

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does this look about right?
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advance thanks

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Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek

does this look about right?
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1...u1stdj6.th.jpg
advance thanks

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Sorry for the late reply folks

THe only way to accurately measure VDROOP is with a multi meter
Vdroop is nto the differnce between bios votls and windows volts

But its its the differnce when the pc is on idle in wondows, as compared to full load (use OCCT, Orthos or PrIME95 to get to full load)

The differnce between the two is the vdroop.

gilgamesh

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Originally Posted by Loser777

Wrong thread man, check out the Q9450 OC/TEMPS/SETTINGS thread.

Anyway, you the max for 24/7 should be definitely below 1.4v, while others say below 1.35.

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ops sorry and thanks for the info

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Originally Posted by JeffLo

hello first post here

would like to ask if whats a good max safe vcore for 24/7 oc and what temps should i be worried at max safe temp for the q9450 on a abit ip35 pro

thanks

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I've about had it with Vista and am considering going back to XP. Vista mail support sucks, read SLOW (Outlook 2003, Live Mail, and Windows Mail). I need Hotmail support and Outlook Express so far is the winner. I've heard conflicting stories about hotmail support being phased out at the end of June for anything but Live Mail, it would suck to go back to XP only to have MS yank OE hotmail support. Any guidance one way or another?

OK back to my system: IP35 Pro, E8400, CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB @ 4-4-4-12 2.2v Bios 16
Not much in this thread on 45nm CPU OC's, any suggestions on a starting point? Need to find some info on the gtl settings, think mine are at default 67% right now.

Thanks guys

gtl ref setting should start at 63%...67% is for the 65nm cpu's.

as for vista, i use the 64 bit version and i use Window's Mail...it works well.