^^ Been using it for the past few days. Not bad. I was finally able to get my E8400 to 4.0GHz by having to adjust some of the GTL values.
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^^ Been using it for the past few days. Not bad. I was finally able to get my E8400 to 4.0GHz by having to adjust some of the GTL values.
anybody notice on the newer bios' the memory copy performance has gone down while read write and latency got better?
No not noticed as I dont flash beta's incase I have any problems with the board and have to RMA it, they are not obliged to repair / change your board for you if you have a beta bios on it, however all i can say to the change in memory performance is "its about bloody time" cos mem performance on this board at the moment sucks, but i'll wait for the official release.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
the memory performance of the board is not that bad, not as good as my maximus but still not bad at all. you just gotta know how to tweak it. the tref is set rather to a mild 3120T, bumping it up via memset to 14592T will reduce your latency and up your read. i would re-check your stability afterwards. plus figuring out what all the values for your memory is important because some settings can be tightened up as well. for example my ram sets my trtp to 7 however it can run it stably at 3. this gave me more read and lower latency as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seanie's Show
Just for you ZenEffect, I can get the tRFC down to 48 and although its passed memtest at 48, it doesnt feel stable, I have a few strange going on's, my trtp is at 5, which the default is 8, cant seem to tighten that up anymore either, not too sure where I adjust the tREF in the bios but my mem timmings including subs have been pretty much tightened up to what they will do and what feels stable and what passes memtest to my satisfaction. My ram is rated 5-5-5-18 at 1150mhz but is doing 1128mhz at 5-5-5-15 (limited by CPU speed), might be able to get the 15 to 12, but to be honest im really not going to see that much of a performance boost for hours more of testing, is it really worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
its not so much the read that concerns me, its the write and the copy which are so far behind, infact so far behind they are almost at stock speeds of most other boards, my ASUS P5Q-e P45 used to run all 3 (read, write and copy) closer to the 10k mark, but I hated that board, moved to crossfire and brought a decent board.
2x2GB on the UT X48 board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seanie's Show
click for larger image
http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...erest_64_s.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Nice Praz, what RAM is that, please dont say OCZ Flex 2 as I noticed its running 1152mhz, if it is then tell me what im doing wrong, or if its got anything to do with the wolfie that your running ?
Those speeds you have there are more like what I was getting out of the ASUS board, just cant seem to find nor get them on this one, this is what im doing right now, and its definatly not good.
Yeah it's Flex 2. The settings are posted in the following link. Posts 11, 12 and 13.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seanie's Show
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthr...?t=6689&page=2
praz good work man, this is faster than i was at 500x9 i think, gonan use this as a template when i get my new psu
Im still not even close to this with your setting set in the bios, I think somewhere, somehow, the CPu you dividers etc your using Praz play a big part in this, I remembered earlier that when I was scoring high on my P45, it was with an e8400 at 4.2ghz, but that eventually degraded and died on me, I might pick another up in a couple of days a put this too the test, cos I was forced to move back to my Q6600 which in fact feels slower than my E8400. :ROTF:
Thanks guys. I don't have any settings saved with a quad in the board. It's been so long I don't remember if the times were close to these or not.
Question for everyone.
I currently got 8GB DDR2-8000 (500FSB 1:1) stable, but with a NB of 1.65. Any recommendations to lower this, while keeping the system stable?
nopeQuote:
Originally Posted by x0vash0x
thats alot of strain on nb btw
try runnin @ 440-450 fsb n ram @ 1100mhz;)
What SW16? The Heatkiller for the pwm area?Quote:
Originally Posted by MomijiTMO
Didn't think so. My next question, I know 1.65 is pretty damn high for the NB. How risky is it to run the NB that high?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
the NB is fine so long as u dont over heat it, most people go up to 1.65V for ddr2 and 1.7V for ddr3 that do ram clocking and not death ram clockingQuote:
Originally Posted by x0vash0x
What's 'Hot' for the NB then? Depending on how high I turn my fans, I can have the NB go from a low of 43C to 54C. I'd rather have the fans on lower, but a temp of 54C makes me a bit nervous.Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
55c is were i drew the line with air cooling, with liquid its a bit harder since it stays cold as what to call max voltage, and depending on how hot the NB is running voltage can become counter productive
I am trying to get my PC stable with my Q6600 @ 3.6 (450 x 8), and ram @ 1128mhz 5-5-5-15-2T.
I bought this cpu 2nd hand because it can do 3.6ghz (450 x 8) @ 1.3375 vcore, 100.23% special add, vdroop: disabled; in a DFI X48 UT. I have had my ram at 1175mhz @ 5-5-5-15-2T before, but I have having problems getting them stable together.
With the current settings below, it will last 1 minute on OCCT before the PC locks up. The max temperature any CPU core reached was 63C. My chipset temps are fine. The AS5 still need time to cure and my water cooling loop still needs to settle, so I think temps will reduce over time.
My Specs:
Mobo: DFI LP X48 LT T2R | Bios 08/29 | XSPC Delta Chipset
CPU: Intel Q6600 G0 | Swiftech GTZ
Ram: OCZ PC2-9200 4GB (2 x 2GB) Flex II
GC: Asus 8800GT 512mb | Glacier Fan @ 700/1750/2000
SC: X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Professional
HD's: WD 150GB Raptor & 4 x 250GB WD SE16 (Raid 0) & Seagate 7200.11 1TB
Optical Drives: 2 x NEC DVD Writers
PSU: SilverPower 600w
Case: NZXT Tempest
Cooling: Custom Water Cooling
OS: Windows XP Professional SP3
Bios Settings:
Code:CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock
CPU Clock Ratio: 8x
- Target CPU Clock: 3600
CPU Clock: 450
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 266/667
- Target DRAM Speed: 1128
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.3375v
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Enabled
CPU VID Special Add: 100.23%
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.12v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.510v
NB Core Voltage: 1.555v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.310v
Vcore Droop Control: Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 113 (Greyed Out)
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 100 (Greyed Out)
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 100 (Greyed Out)
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Auto
Clock Setting Fine Delay
DRAM CLK Driving Strength: Level 6
DRAM Data Driving Strength: Level 8
Ch1 DLL Default Skew Model: Model 0
Ch2 DLL Default Skew Model: Model 0
Fine Delay Step Degree: 5ps
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: Auto
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 1 Control fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 Control fine delay: Current
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: Current
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: Auto
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 3 Control fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 Control fine delay: Current
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: Current
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: Auto
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 15
All Precharge to Act: 6
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 52
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 7
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: AUTO (7)
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: AUTO (7)
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: AUTO (7)
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: AUTO (7)
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: AUTO (7)
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto (7)
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto (7)
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto (7)
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto (7)
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto (7)
MCH ODT Latency: 1
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO
These settings:
DRAM CLK Driving Strength: Level 6
DRAM Data Driving Strength: Level 8
Ch1 DLL Default Skew Model: Model 0
Ch2 DLL Default Skew Model: Model 0
Fine Delay Step Degree: 5ps
popped up when I updated the bios to 08/29 and I have no idea what to set them at (I never changed them) and how they effect the overclock.
Please can you help, I would love to get my PC stable at these speeds!
@!TIMMY!: why do you need to set your Special Add? try disabling it...
I copied the settings from the previous owner of the Q6600. I have also tired disabling it with 1.35 vcore, with Vdroop enabled and disabled and my PC still freezes on OCCT.Quote:
Originally Posted by emoners
Well you system is pretty much exactly the same as mine, except for the sound card and the optical drives etc, you main hardware is exactly the same, CPU, RAM, Mobo, and for that, so are you settings except, you CPU vcore, if your CPU can trully do 3.6ghz then I would be very supprised if it can do that on stock voltages, if it can do that on stock voltages then you pretty much have a 4ghz'er there, I would start by raising you vcore if you are getting lock-up's, something isnt getting enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by !TIMMY!
Yeah that's the dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
I'm planing to use the BP Compression on them, what problems you anticipate?Quote:
Originally Posted by MomijiTMO
I will use the Loctite Blue Thread locker do just to be safe...
Anyone know where I can grab the latest beta bios from as a Diamond Flash utility for the LT board ?
It seems they only have the standand bin file in the beta section.
I used the normal BP fittings but because it's really wide the o-ring did not form a complete seal and I had a leak from the get go. So if the fittings don't work, you'll see it straight away if you leak test. Hopefully yours will work well though :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Now im getting somewhere with this ram, although memset states its running PF lvl 7, I have the pull ins enabled or what ever they are pulling it down to PF lvl 6, had to raise the NB slightly, set 1.57v in the bios and the bios giving me a reading of 1.58v for the NB, SG is reporting 1.53v but as you see from the pict, temps are still good, and this is with the stock cooling, and a 60x60x10mm fan on the NB radiator, no other cooling on the board at all, water cooling the CPU, overnight 12hr run of memtest pro.
Would like to know though if its possible to hard set the tREF Refresh Period in the bios anywhere, as each time I reboot this defaults itself back to 2600.
So, got a problem.
I can do on an 8600 475 x 10 perfectly stable, but if 500 x 9.5 is completely unstable. Any reason why the multiplier would make the system unstable?
give it more nb volts 1.5-1.6Quote:
Originally Posted by x0vash0x
n chek your memory
try updating your sig too
Yeah.... I'll update it soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
NB 1.65 Memory is 2.1 & DDR2-8000. I can't get anymore out of the NB, anything over 1.65 just freezes the system.
Does it really need that much for 500FSB? I know it's not an apples to apples comparison, but IIRC I can get my Q6700 bench stable @ 450FSB x9 with just ~1.35 vNB. Though I might be mistaken, I'll see if I can run that setting later on.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
you should be able to do 500-540fsb with 1.52v on nbQuote:
Originally Posted by x0vash0x
just tweak the gtls to 61-63%
and use 333 memory divider
lower memory volts to 2.02v
n dissable legacy usb support
+dissable cpu features but not the cores
I have 8GB RAM, so it needs that much on the NB.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
you wanna run stock you dont need much nb volts lolQuote:
Originally Posted by x0vash0x
i ran 1,62v for 4 sticks but i was doin 500fsb n memory runnin @ 1200mhz
i wouldnt use less than 1.5v for 8 gigs unless i runnin stock:rofl:
zsamz, whats the go with dissabling legacy usb support? how does it effect overclocking? if i dissable it will it effect usb functions?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
dissable usb support =dissabling booting from usb driveQuote:
Originally Posted by adya
if you dont dissable it you gonna get errors in memtest where you shouldnt
so i think its more stable
i was doin some quick testing on my gskills pc2-9600 2x2 set
with it enabled i got errors
i dissabled it n i got them to 1300mhz with 2.1v
i wanted to test more but i got no time
i moded an accelero v2 for the nb n :rofl: the nb hit 60c
soon i gonna mod a xigmatek 1283 n slap it on the nb:D
it performs almost as good as a true:eek:
i gonna start usin my x38 soonto see how good it is with the gskills 9600
Well, as it stands right now, I'm running trying to run FSB 495 x 9.5 (4.702) with a 1:1 divider 333/667 strap.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
I can do 470 x 10 (4.7) 1.66 NB 1.44 vCore 2.1vDIMM 1.00 vtt perfectly fine, but when I use a 9.5 multiplier the computer locks up. I've increased the VTT (1.00 -> 1.04) and it helps to be able to use another divider besides 10. However, I'm having trouble getting 9.5 x 495 stable. 495 x 9.5 is doable, I just need to figure out how to get my system stable, and it's driving me crazy figuring out what I need to do.
which bios u guys have found out to be the best for E8600?
hey i finally found some time to play with my E8500.
im going for a 24/7 clock first so i can save it for later.
i managed to get past 4ghz ,but not stable. not sure if it wants more volts or less.
the more i give it vcore the more unstable it gets same with vtt?
what do E8500s like at this stage?
i feel like ive tried almost everything lol
vcore 1.4v
vtt 1.350 120 110 90
1.250 110 105 85
vnb tried between 1.5 - 1.6v
vdim 2.1v-2.3v
sbv 1.6v
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...nShot001-2.jpg
i started playin with x38 and e8600
the .5 divider is a verry big pain anyone else?
Trying to get any divider other then 10 to be stable with x48 and e8600 was a complete pain in the ass. What worked for me was raising the VTT. I needed vtt 1.114 to get 9.5 x 495 = 4.702Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
What's interesting though, is that 10 x 470 was completely stable with vtt of 1.00
Going from 470 FSB to 490 requiring an increase of VTT seems obvious to me. Don't really see where the issue is.Quote:
Originally Posted by x0vash0x
Not everyone has the experience that you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
board is acting weird with e8600
but it needs less voltage that ut p35:)
i had slapped on an accelero but now i put a xigmantek 1283:D
1.36v cpu n 2.06v ram "gskills 9600 2X2" 1.62v nb got me this
no need for more vtt to goto 500fsbQuote:
Originally Posted by Praz
i'm havin hard to=ime to pass 525:rofl: and me e6850 can do 555 on the board
the board just actin verry weird with e8600
i gonna try out latest bios
i;m on 602 n as soon as i use .5 on cpu board goes berzerk took me 15 min to get it to start again i had to take out bios chip n put spare chip to get it to boot even led went dead no code
Quote:
Originally Posted by x0vash0x
As an increase of VTT is what allowed 495 FSB to work evidently is was needed. Users would have a much easier time not thinking all components react the same and overclock settings are universal.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Post back if a different version BIOS makes a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
i updated to latest bios .5 is ok now
but board still verry weird need bios update for e8600
i cant get 525fsb stable with e8600
with e6850 555fsb is ok tested 540 with e6400
with e6400 i got gskills 9600 to 1333 stable n with e8600 cant go past 1270 lol
with ut p35 never went above 1.22 vtt i even went as far as 1.4 n lol
tired settled on this 4 now
correction :515fsb is max for e8600 with latest bios
this is bull doudou better cpu should be better not worse
should i smash x38 go back to p35 or smash e8600 n put on e6400 ridiculous
1.114 vtt is pretty low though isnt it? for 495fsb?Quote:
Originally Posted by x0vash0x
i need 1.35 vtt for 475fsb + if i lower it i loose stability straight away.
edit *sorry , misread ur post. im amazed then that u managed to reach that with such low vtt.
im going back to the drawing board lol i want less vtt and vcore. not sure why my board requires so much volts.
on my biostar , i use half the volts with the same chips and ram.
i went back to 111 bios
i can clock my ram to 1300 @ low fsb
no problem with .5 divider
and using 1,23 vtt for this
copy way up with older bios lol
Probably the limit of the board itself as my DFI UT P35-T2R, LT X38-T2R and UT X48-T3RS all topped out around 500-510FSB for 32M pi and around 510-525FSB for validation. But been playing with my DFI DK X48-T2RBS Plus and fsb wise it's much better than previous DFI boards I have played with! How's E8600 @563FSB 32M Pi http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=10937 :)
Memory clocking ain't half bad either :D
tRD/Performance level = 7
2x1GB Teamgroup PC2-10400 CAS6 @701Mhz 5-5-5-18 at 2.675v
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/437142.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...cpuz_valid.png
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracer Micron D9GMH @698Mhz 5-5-5-18 at 2.65v for CPUZ Validation
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/437668.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...cpuz_valid.png
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...48T2RSB_10.jpg
my board is prime stable @ 554fsb with e6850 so its not the limit of the boardQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
n now with e8600 not stable over 515fsb
edit:best so far is 602 +603 bios and 63% gtl settings but cant get 510fsb+ stable with e8600
i can clock gskills 9600 1300mhz+ with e6300 e6850 but not e8600
Hey guys, I was wondering when u make use of the power savings options: CPU vid control:auto and using VID special add. I want to make use of CE1, when I enbaled it, with a DIMM measured it fluctates every 1secs from 1.240 up to 1.256 ( kept my DIMM pointed for like 30secs), and during load it goes to 1.338.
However when u dont make use of CE1, volts are pretty much stable, fluctates at max 0.001, is those flucations bad for the cpu when using CE1?
Hey Guys,
Wasup with the new bios A02 hidden the mem advance options?
The 1st time you get in you see all the options and after you save and quit they are gone :shrug:
Any pointers in how to get that menu back or just flashing to an older bios?
:down: for DFI trying to make user friendly BIOS one of the reasons one buy DFi is because their BIOS takes ages to master.
dont bother with the bios anyways is crapQuote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
in the last few releases all i see is less performance and less overclockability
they should scrap all bioses n start with 602 or 603
i can goto 550 fsb with e6400 and 4 gigs set but i cant go past 510 with e8600:mad:
602 / 603 ?????????Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
All I see is 307 / 320 / 725 / 829 / and A02.
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=A&SITE=US
Unfortunatly for users who want to use 2 x 4870 X2's in crossfire then they dont have much choice but to flash to A02, Ive flashed to it myself and not noticed any difference between A02 and 829.
How much VCORE, VTT and VMCH did you need for that?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
1.42v core 1.4v vtt1.5v vcmh lowest settingQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
i'm sure it will go higher with more juice lol
1.63v nb
beta bios;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Seanie's Show
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=B&SITE=US
but with them 4870 X2's you cant use em
and the worst of it is all bioses after 602 are so damn slow
Thanks Sam I'll try those too.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
I just miss does mem expert settings.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
I still don't see those BIOS I think is because I'm browsing thru X48 category. 602 is for X38?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
603 is x38, I would imagine 602 is X48Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Gah, I guess my E6300 just isn't up for 500FSB+ :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
try ut beta bios;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
they skipped it for the lt x48
:slapass: try harderQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
use 68-71% gtl setting;)
set pl to 8 nb to 1.63v n use only 333/800 divider
well i aint gonna but my e8600 in my x38 till dfi bios engineers gets their foot outa their asses
i strongly suspect the board was missengineered somewhere cause a cheap p5e gettin e8600 to 550fsb++ easy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
It's actually the 530 version for the X48 LT.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
If you look at the changes, they are exactly the same:
Quote:
Date Code: 2008/05/30
File: X48AD530.exe
Size: 850,897 bytes
Description
DiamondFlash Image for BIOS.
Please Click Here if you are not familiar with the procedure of Diamond Flash Image!!
Major Reasons of Change:
Added New Micro Code for 45nm family CPUs.
Anyways, I'm going to go try going back to an earlier BIOS because it seems my E8400 is having a tough time getting to 4GHz stable with the 10/02 set.Quote:
Date Code: 2008/06/03
File: X38AD603.exe
Size: 837,020 bytes
Description
DiamondFlash Image for BIOS.
Please Click Here if you are not familiar with the procedure of Diamond Flash Image!!
Major Reasons of Change:
Added New Micro Code for 45nm family CPUs.
finally got it stable . i had to lower vtt to 1.1v and i kept gtls on auto this time.
vcore had to go way up to 1.41v !! i think i know why , it was used a fair bit for benching and comps so prolly at end of life.
well, unless its what zsamz is saying about new bios. later i might try older bios see if it makes a difference.
temps are ok at 1.41v though so ill keep it for 24/7 for now :shrug:
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...nShot002-1.jpg
@adya: what FPO batch?
FPO -q808A419Quote:
Originally Posted by emoners
i know its done some mega volts ,and almost 6ghz @-100c
i knew this before i bought it. but high volts do eventually kill em anyway.
ive tried everything , my ram is rock stable its vcore it seems to want unfortunatly.
the more vtt the more unstable it gets as well. really doesnt like vtt.
PS- with tref , was higher better? cant remember now lol 8704T is that too high for 4gb?
anyone? tried latest official bios? :)
Yup im on it and dont see any difference what-so-ever in this one to the previous two.Quote:
Originally Posted by asap
most of the last ones are the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by asap
in fact they are slower than older ones
they just good for ati X2 cards
hmmmm, what does it mean by new micro code for 45nm's ??? maybe better for 45nm quads like mine?
Its just so the board can support newer 45nm CPU's like the E0 stepping etc, CPU's that without an updated bios wont work properly, or maybe not at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
... I use E0 stepping now on 603, that cant be it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seanie's Show
Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
I really liked the 602 the problem with it is the bad 400/1066 strap. :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
I have to look witch BIOS works best with that mem strap without insane volts or locking windows.
I know there is one out there a guy running 1300@DDR2 with 400/1066 strap on G.Skill Pi thread has it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
..good thing i posted here:up:... upgraded my mem to 6GB ddr2 1066 from ddr2 800 4x1gb, using latest 10/02 bios.. wierd thing happened... won't do stock speed (1066), doesnt matter how much volt i gave to NB and vdimm, still no post (did everything from clear cmos to bla bla bla)... back to 7/25, now working.. thx guys:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
your running three sticks of ram?Quote:
Originally Posted by asap
if you are your gonna see your performance go through the floor because you aren't running in dual channel anymore. either go to 8gb or drop back to 4gb
no i'm running 2x2 + 2x1 teamgroup.. they rated the same, PC8500 CL5 2.1-2.2v :up: currently 1066 2.0v.. these for temporary.. 4x2GB is im after next, probably right before new year:p:.. but i havent decide whtas best.. do you think there are 4x2GB ddr 8500 can speed up to 1100 or more at decent voltage? NBs not really an issue, this board has quite good temp at high voltage
hmmm I got good speeds out of 4x1gb on this board once with d9gkx, but its hard to say. maybe go with this new g.skill that looks absolutely dirty for OCQuote:
Originally Posted by asap
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231216
If I hadn't just committed to ddr3 on my next board I would be all over it myself :)
that set is nice it might just do close to 1200mhz tooQuote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
i was thinkin ddr3 but not unless i gettin nahaleem n to be honest i only need the power for gaming n it aint got that much more power for gaming as i see now
btw you guys should be on 602 or 603 its way faster
soon as i get more time i'm over with x38 n goin back to my ut p35
yeah prolly one o the best mem to get dirty:p:, problem is.. its very rare in my country and i had to pay quite exp for shipping.. i only get these cheap team xtreem dark 8500 to test my E84 above 520fsb on this board:up: been using "not so good" corsair 6400 DHX C4 that did good enough with this board, 1020 4-4-4-12.. above that, wont post! even looser timming :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
erlier bios seems bit faster alright.. (4x1GB corsair 6400 DHX C4)
10/02 bios
http://www.flow-tek.net/kaskus/bios1002.jpg
7/25 bios
http://www.flow-tek.net/kaskus/bios725.jpg
but i love this mobo too much to get tortured:p: i wantto keep it in shape for my daily tasks.. giving my abitX38 and P35 DQ6 a hard time:rofl: still, not as good as this one:up:
is there a noticable overclocking difference between dfi's p35 and x48 board?
get the new ut p45, its the best we've seen so far :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
Cant wait for its release in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
:yepp: its faster and goes higher fsbQuote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
the new ut p45 looks to as good and even higher fsb
If u cant wait, u can order it right here: http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_i...-P45-T2RS.html, shipping is cheap to the UK ( 12.90euro) and u will receive it within 2 days after paypment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seanie's Show
And it's cheaper than the Maximus II Formula I bought, *sigh*. Wish I had waited a month...Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
and its so much faster than your mfII:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
Scan have had it since last Thursday ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Seanie's Show
http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?W...TA+RAID%2c+ATX
well I had my Q6600 @ 3.8ghz on my p35 so I'm hoping this board can upgrade that a little bit.
Man, I have such a terrible Q6600. It's absolutely ridiculous. Too bad I blew all that cash on this amazing board
only to pair it with such a stinker :shakes:
Highest settings I tried tonight were 1.46 vcore, 1.42 FSB VTT, 1.36 NB.
That's with perf level set at 8, 5-5-5-15-54, at 1:1 400mhz.
I couldn't even get 9x400 3600mhz stable in OCCT or P95 with those settings... And that's all under water.
Honestly, think I'm just gonna stick with 3.2 ghz at this point. Too depressing to bother with this thing anymore :rofl:
And as a sidenote. Hitting 80c on the mosfets is alright is it not? AKA the "system" temp. I had read that they're designed to work fine up until 100c or so.
And let me tell you... When you have a crap Q6600 and have to really pump those volts, the temp rockets up fast.
ye need more power scotty! the Q6600 is a tank, you really cant kill itQuote:
Originally Posted by Sly Fox
I ran a q6600 g0 @ 4.005 ghz for 8 months with no degredation. posted the same w-prime scores the week i got it and the week I ditched it :D.
1.62 VCORE
1.6 VTT
1.64 VNB
get those GTLs up around 70% for the best prime stability.
as far as the mosfet temp goes, are you using a backplate for the CPU????? if not then this is the reason for your bad mosfet temps. if you haven't already, get a slim 80mm from performance-pcs (Hiper brand) and get that sucker blowing on the PWM heatsink ASAP.
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Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
See, once I had hit 1.42 VTT I was nervous already. I know the Q's can handle the voltages pretty easily up until 1.5, but I keep being told that over 1.4 VTT is bad in the long run.
So you would disagree? What would you put as the "safe limit" for 24/7? I had thought 1.4, but maybe 1.5? Even as you said above, 1.6?
Northbridge I shouldn't need higher than 1.35 or so at the most should I? Only running 400mhz FSB and relaxed timings so far.
And GTL's. I have to be honest, I've been OC'ing for a fairly long time, but I have absolutely no idea what exactly these are or how to manipulate them.
You're saying put all 3 at 70%? I guess it's probably not going to be so easy as "here's the best numbers for that CPU" as all CPU's are a little different, but is there a pretty consistently good setup for Q6600's in general?
I do have a backplate, so don't think the board has flexed much. As for a fan. I'll have to pick one up next time I can. In the short term should I be fine though? I've heard 120c - 160c max, so they must be able to take temps without much issue no?
Thanks for the info. I've always felt very close to achieving 3600 mhz on this board with this chip, but I always get frustratingly close and give up.
Hopefully I can just get it this try :D
hmmm I'll try to answer all these.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly Fox
- 1.6 vtt is perfectly fine on a 65nm, its the 45nm's we worry about.
- you have water on the NB so you could even go to 1.7v safely as long as NB stays <45C at all times
- once you get air moving over the PWMs you will be MUCH better off, find a makeshift way now if you can, any way, then get a fan that I mentioned before for a long term solution.
for GTLs its pretty hard to explain simply but try setting this
140 gtl ref 0/2
132 gtl ref 1/3
115 nb ref
with 1.6 vtt
-as far as safe limits go keep your temps under control and your within safe boundaries, you really cant hurt the q6600 in my experience. I did some pretty brutal things to mine while I had it and it never let me down
Alright well I'm gonna hit it fresh tomorrow and start again. I'll try being a little less scared on the volts.
Ever since my E6600 spontaneously died a couple years back I've been really cautious with C2D/Q.
Thanks again. Hopefully I'll be able to update with some decent results.
I dont think you can kill it with Vtt at all, just dont get TOO happy with the Vcore, make sure your temps are always in line and keep the increments you go up by small. good luck :up:
Okay well just finished hooking up my board and.....nothing! Tried only hooking up the 24-pin and 8-pin and nothing standby power led is on and so is the dram power led. Nothing posts on the code screen PSU doesn't even power up. Any ideas or helpful tips do you need both 4-pins on the MB hooked up? PSU was tested and no problems.
i learned a new trickQuote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
after months of hibernation in the box
my board wouldnt post i took out bios chip started her up withought the chip
put chip back in n :up:
soon it will be hibernating again
I know this was probubly my mistake but it was an open box from newegg does anyone know if they test there boards before reselling them? I have jumper set to reset cmos and pulled the battery and going to have it sit for a bit.
I've bought Open Box before never had any issues, but you may have been the chosen one.Quote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
I doubt they will test those boards, they will probably only check for physical blemishes and that's all.
If nothing appears on the Code display pretty sure it's RMA time.