Unlocked Venice 3000+

I seriously doubt AMD would waste the time and money doing something as risky as laser cutting the core. Look at those cut bridges on the old AXPs and tell me how well that would work on the core....

Nah.

nn_step

What do you plan to do?

He'll cover the pins in dust :D ;)

Okay I updated my sig. If theres anything you need... just ask. So long as you can explain what I have to do. :slap: :)

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Originally Posted by nweibley

I seriously doubt AMD would waste the time and money doing something as risky as laser cutting the core. Look at those cut bridges on the old AXPs and tell me how well that would work on the core....

Nah.

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Hahaha... Word!

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Originally Posted by TiN_EOF

nn_step

What do you plan to do?

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reprogram the chip...

OK. Do you plan to do this with JTAG Tools and JTAG programmator connected to that pins on CPU? What BSDL do you want to use?

I was thinking this one http://www.amd.com/us-en/Connectivit...5E8677,00.html

Do you think it will work?

^^ AMD Am486DX 3volt processor IBIS models. :D

Is there any chance that info applies to the AMD64? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Daved+

Is there any chance that info applies to the AMD64? :confused:

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:rofl:

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Originally Posted by KoHaN69

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hahaha :banana:

that might be a reason why I fried a proc...

So you guys find out how to unlock a 3000+ yet?

It hasn't been figured out yet because the chips aren't jtag locked they are laser locked. Jtag programming gone wrong would likely leave the chip unuseable. Failed laser cutting would just leave it unlocked. The odds a laser might have misfired or that there was garbage in the way of the cut are high indeed. The odds that the jtag programming was perfect in every way except that the chip was unlocked are unlikely. We've all seen messed up code.

Occam's Razor
one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything

Paraphrased
Given two equally predictive theories, choose the simplest.

Paraphrased even more simply
The most likely explanation is usually the correct one.

Flame me all you like, but do consider what I said. If I thought there was hope for a moment I would call every yahoo I could blackmail at AMD to give me the data.

Anyhow... continue on guys, maybe you will discover something interesting.

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Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey

It hasn't been figured out yet because the chips aren't jtag locked they are laser locked. Jtag programming gone wrong would likely leave the chip unuseable. Failed laser cutting would just leave it unlocked. The odds a laser might have misfired or that there was garbage in the way of the cut are high indeed. The odds that the jtag programming was perfect in every way except that the chip was unlocked are unlikely. We've all seen messed up code.

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aHA!! told u had sometihng with lasercutting to do!

u tell em gray!

That was exciting at first, but now its just getting pathetic.

Give up on it, but put the unlocked 3000+ in a museum or something.

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Originally Posted by Flanker

That was exciting at first, but now its just getting pathetic.

Give up on it, but put the unlocked 3000+ in a museum or something.

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f-ing pessimists :p:

I still have my hopes on the guys that are trying to get to it thru JTAG.

Here you have an interactive guide to changing Vcore, multiplier & FSB-Sense of AthlonXP via pinmod:
http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?/ht...md_pinmod.html

It can be useful to find out the corrispondence between pinout & Lxx bridges in AthlonXP:
http://fab51.com/cpu/barton/athlon-e23.html

If we find the pinout datasheet of the AthlonXP we can find the name of the pins involved in the pinmod and try to find the same ones in the Athlon64 pinout...

It's just an idea... :)

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Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey

It hasn't been figured out yet because the chips aren't jtag locked they are laser locked. Jtag programming gone wrong would likely leave the chip unuseable. Failed laser cutting would just leave it unlocked. The odds a laser might have misfired or that there was garbage in the way of the cut are high indeed. The odds that the jtag programming was perfect in every way except that the chip was unlocked are unlikely. We've all seen messed up code.

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Remember that everything was RIGHT because at first it was not unlocked. :nono:

Only after Pirs tried another CPU for two weeks and put this between ashtray and mousepad, and then tried it again, it was unlocked. So IMO locking was DONE and CPU was locked and then something happend :confused:

So it's not like laser missed what it was supposed to cut...

Will pencil mod do the trick :)

It might be best to start a new thread for this post as not many are going to sort threw every page and see your post.

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Originally Posted by Ref

Remember that everything was RIGHT because at first it was not unlocked. :nono:

Only after Pirs tried another CPU for two weeks and put this between ashtray and mousepad, and then tried it again, it was unlocked. So IMO locking was DONE and CPU was locked and then something happend :confused:

So it's not like laser missed what it was supposed to cut...

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No offense, but Pirs experience is ancedotal, not scientific. There are too many factors in there and I think it was unlocked when he got it whether he realized it or not.

Your statements to the contrary are pretty firm considering you have absolutely no proof either of your theory.

As I stated, this is my belief, believe what you like. I just think my explanation more likely given the evidence at hand.

This is not a flame, don't treat it as one.

Cheers

he needs to look in the retail box to see if there was a golden ticket in it