Foxconn Quantum Force Black Ops X48 OC Guide (56k Warning)

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Originally Posted by RLM

I guess gmcg, might be best for comment on this.

I'm looking for a quick replacement for my 790i. It's been a great board, but the vbat is screwed, meaning everytime I power off and on I need to re-set all by bios settings. fun.

on the 790i with my QX9650 and el cheapo OCZs 1066 golds I had some pretty reasonable oc's, 24/7 and benching. The QX would bench 485fsb and boot 495. My OCZ would bench well into the 1900s at 8-7-6 1T with 2.05v. on water I could bench up to about 4.56 ghz and on single stage up to 4.9+.

The reason I mention this is that I've bought an RE and it's just not as good as the 790i for my setup. It needs too much voltage compared to the 790i for the same clocks. Possibly as a result I'm now limited to about 4.4ghz on water if I'm lucky. FSB 480, but v shakey and that's limited to 480x9 for benching. on the 790i I could bench 480x9.5 no worries.

I'm not sure if it is heat related, whether it can be fixed with a new bios, but it's just not any fun.

So I'd like to know, how does the black ops compare? The first few pages I've read here are a bit of a turn off, but subsequent bioses have fixed a lot of issue right?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

RLM

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Hi RLM! Finally ... though you are one of the lucky people who got a good 790i ... Yes, BIOSes fixed a lot of things, but BlackOps being more stable, it not that overclockable as 790i. It is difficult to say this for me such as I am comparing unstable 790i results with stable BlackOps results. I couldn't manage to get my 790i stable enough (at least such stable as BlackOps or 780i), and after all EVGA admitted that it was a problem with my board.

I hope to get better results with BlackOps and all water cooling. I am not sure if it will be possible to bench 490 MHz FSB though. Why don't you try 790i FTW?

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Originally Posted by Remcokatz

Well for the fsb problems: a blackops will do 550 easily so that shouldn't be a reason not to buy the blackops. Also a b-ops will start growing on you. At first you might get a little irritated when things don't run just like you want it to but after 1 week or so you will get the hang of it and love the board to death.

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Didn't you notice that RLM was talking about quad core, particularly QX9650? Benching 490 FSB is not that easy on quads ... and 550 is impossible, period.

Thanks for your honesty there gmcg, it's much appreciated. I've been looking into quite a few boards, but I did call the XFX distributor here today re another 790i, and they reckon they'll have some in next week. Whether I'll be as lucky next time, who knows???:).. Need to sleep on this

Thanks again.

RLM

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Originally Posted by gmcg

Didn't you notice that RLM was talking about quad core, particularly QX9650? Benching 490 FSB is not that easy on quads ... and 550 is impossible, period.

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I missed that part. On the other hand i was talking about the board itself, not saying his cpu would be able to reach 550, but the b-ops has no problem reaching that fsb :)

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Originally Posted by saaya

really sorry to hear about this gmcg, and yes, i know there are issues with the support, interestingly and contrary to anything else, the china support is awesome while the us support is... not that good :D ive already contacted the tech support department and ill work with them to improve the support.

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Thanks, saaya, it is not your fault :)

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Originally Posted by RLM

Thanks for your honesty there gmcg, it's much appreciated. I've been looking into quite a few boards, but I did call the XFX distributor here today re another 790i, and they reckon they'll have some in next week. Whether I'll be as lucky next time, who knows???:).. Need to sleep on this

Thanks again.

RLM

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Thank you, RLM. I still love Blackops much more than 790i though ;) I will trade several additional OC points for 24/7 stability anytime. I wouldn't trade my Blackops for any 790i FTW ...

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Originally Posted by Remcokatz

I missed that part. On the other hand i was talking about the board itself, not saying his cpu would be able to reach 550, but the b-ops has no problem reaching that fsb :)

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Yeah, how about 605 Mhz FSB? :D Blackops is a monster ...
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=401833

Except 1.4 an 1.2 strap,can you reach 530fsb with some other strap?

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Originally Posted by gmcg

Yeah, how about 605 Mhz FSB? :D Blackops is a monster ...
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=401833

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I would love to know what settings were used to get that far. I haven't really tried much but I can't really get it past ~560. Or is it just a binned board we're talking about here?

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Originally Posted by Gendo

I would love to know what settings were used to get that far. I haven't really tried much but I can't really get it past ~560. Or is it just a binned board we're talking about here?

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+1 for sharing your bios settings :)

I am stuck at 590fsb on my dual core and I am sure it is my board holding me back :shrug:

Can anyone achieved 2100MHz ddr3 on this board?

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Originally Posted by Remcokatz

Well for the fsb problems: a blackops will do 550 easily so that shouldn't be a reason not to buy the blackops. Also a b-ops will start growing on you. At first you might get a little irritated when things don't run just like you want it to but after 1 week or so you will get the hang of it and love the board to death.

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:toast: :D

same here actually, the first time i played with the BO i thought "wtf is this BIOS structure?" but after a week i didnt even notice it anymore and it all worked really well... i had a lot of fun of playing with the mem and an 8600 until i hit a wall with the 3rd and 4th mem slots. then i figured out dll adjustments are needed for those slots to break the 1950s stable, and after that got to 2200 :D

error54 every now and then which is annoying, but its still loads of fun... unfortunately i havent had much time to play with the board again after that :D

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Originally Posted by Gendo

I can confim what Remco is saying. I received a black ops from foxconn in the Netherlands just like he did and I can tell you this: 20 minutes after I threw my E8500 on there I was at 550 fsb. And I'm even running a bios from June. After this one a few wolfdale tweaks and performance biosses have been made. As soon as I have some free time I'll try the newest bios and see what I can do with my brand new E8600.

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sweet! :D

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Originally Posted by quake6

Can anyone achieved 2100MHz ddr3 on this board?

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stable? yes, unstable i got it even higher :)
but it needs quite some tweaking to get there :D

So i guess you went for another 790 RLM? :(

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Originally Posted by Gendo

I would love to know what settings were used to get that far. I haven't really tried much but I can't really get it past ~560. Or is it just a binned board we're talking about here?

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www.benchbrothers.de [BenchBrothers] MusicIsMyLife

that's the guy who pulled it of, contact him :)

@saaya: You got settings for that 2100 stable? I cant go over 2050 and my ram have gtr chips

@Saaya:

Were you able to test out settings for a dual pair setup of the CellShock blue kits? I want to get a second pair, but want to be able to keep my current OC.

@Telo

2x1TB in raid0? Hope you have backup or you're going to be in tears one day!

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Originally Posted by quake6

@saaya: You got settings for that 2100 stable? I cant go over 2050 and my ram have gtr chips

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i used the settings raja posted on benchtec actually :D
i slightly changed them but basically used his settings as a guideline.

G25 (lol, old times)
1:4 400 with an E8500
888-24
i used the white slots and the following dll adustments:
white dimm clock dll adjust -4
blue dimm clock dll adjust -3 (actually helps!)
crtl dll +1

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Originally Posted by Telo

@Saaya:

Were you able to test out settings for a dual pair setup of the CellShock blue kits? I want to get a second pair, but want to be able to keep my current OC.

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same clocks with double the chips wont be easy... im not sure thats even possible, but give it a try :D
no, i havent had time to try 4x1gb, but somebody else here did it i think?

No success... I just don't know why I cant run it stable on 2000MHz... I'm using 2x1GB Corsair 1600MHz v3.1,E8600,HX620W,7300gt/3870 X2 (depend),temperatures are fine (about 40°C for almost every components)... Tried almost every settings on internet and no go... Just don't know where I'm mistaking... Can run super pi,but prime stable is a no go...

What is better,1.4 400 or 1.4 333?

cpu333 is generally regarded as better for overclocking, tbh though i don't really know what the difference is (they both result in same mhz) - perhaps someone else can enlighten me.

What settings are you using? Have you set them all manually like in this thread? http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/...d.php?t=194629

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Originally Posted by quake6

No success... I just don't know why I cant run it stable on 2000MHz... I'm using 2x1GB Corsair 1600MHz v3.1,E8600,HX620W,7300gt/3870 X2 (depend),temperatures are fine (about 40°C for almost every components)... Tried almost every settings on internet and no go... Just don't know where I'm mistaking... Can run super pi,but prime stable is a no go...

What is better,1.4 400 or 1.4 333?

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i dont know tbh, people say 1.4 333 gives them better scores, i saw no difference and went for 1.4 400 cause it clocked slightly better for me...

have you tried single channel?
what slots are you using?
whats timings are you using?
what PL are you using?
what nb voltage and what cooling?

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Originally Posted by negev

cpu333 is generally regarded as better for overclocking, tbh though i don't really know what the difference is (they both result in same mhz) - perhaps someone else can enlighten me.

What settings are you using? Have you set them all manually like in this thread? http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/...d.php?t=194629

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the strap is a combination of several chipset timings.
333 is made for 333 cpus and 400 for 400 cpus.
interestingly 333 clocks better and scores better for most people, which makes sense cause besides the 9770 there are no other 400fsb cpus, so naturally every manufacturer will tweak the 333 strap cause that helps 99% of the users.

Didn't tried single channel... I'm using white slots,tried 8-8-8-24,9-9-9-24,1T/2T... PL 9 and 1.594v for NB with aircooling (temp about 41°C under load)

what kind of aircooling is that? :D
those temps sound a bit too good, are you sure its only 40 under load?
the temp reading is on the bottom of the pcb, so an open stand with air moving below the board will make chipset temps look lower than they are!

what bios are you using?

I tried g28 and g30...
My mbo is at the table next to window and when benching I open it. Cooler is a little warm during bench. I use 80mm on mosfet and stock 40mm on NB full speed

P.S. you have awesome signature :)

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Originally Posted by quake6

I tried g28 and g30...
My mbo is at the table next to window and when benching I open it. Cooler is a little warm during bench. I use 80mm on mosfet and stock 40mm on NB full speed

P.S. you have awesome signature :)

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hmmmm and you are sure the fsb is not limiting you?
try single channel and see how high you can push the mem...

thanks, i really like it too :D
it was made by a very nice foxconn employee in the netherlands office :)
thanks again michael and quintjin! :toast:

I'm not sure for FSB,cause I can't test it with this divider... On other divider I use totally different settings...
I'll give it a try with only one memory... Somebody test this board with Corsair?

Do you have wallpaper of that? :p:

your the third person asking me that :D
here you go:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/foxconnfireuo4.jpg

and yes, i believe xello used corsair memory?

I'm on the 2x2gb 1600mhz kit, which tops out at 1800mhz stable 1860mhz bootable (limited by quad?), are ya sure your sticks can go 2000mhz Quake?

On raja's review he mentions "We were quite surprised that 4GB held up so well at this speed. In fact, using 2x1GB kits did not provide us with any advantage for stability so this 2x2GB kit is what we recommend for a 24/7 PC running 64-bit Vista"