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05-05-2007, 03:33 AM
eXceeded

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Originally Posted by bloodbanger

nekkid skeleton?Then call me a necrophiliac,cause i'd hit her anytime,anyplace:D

Just wondering what Kombatant(?)meant with"People are going to be pleasantly surprised",but i don't know if that part is already been explained/covered in some specs/previews...:stick:

er.. its a man
05-05-2007, 03:43 AM
bloodbanger

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Originally Posted by eXceededgoku

er.. its a man

i was talking about an gelina jolie:D
05-05-2007, 03:45 AM
sky

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Originally Posted by eXceededgoku

er.. its a man

no the man was furgie (misspelled intentionally, or was it that freak of nature (singer)). seriously though, seen the rumours of ange being terminal ill? i mean the looks go with it according to some pics on superficial or ontd.

but anyway. the pleasant surprise.. well as far as i know it hasn't been explained or elaborated on, but when i see and hear statements like the one in denny's thread about certain gt3 scores being WAY low and his stock score being close to or on par with a 8800gtx, then i'll say.. what the heck, this IS a pleasant surprise.
i mean, yea i've had a love-hate relationship with the r600. starting with loving then loathing, loving, ... you get the picture. atm i'm looking forward to it, although i won't be buying one for at least 2 or 3 months (being out of country and away at around the time it goes on sale will save me this time, yay). but i'll be interested to see it rock the socks off (hoping it will anyway).
05-05-2007, 03:53 AM
perkam

No OT Pls.

Perkam
05-05-2007, 05:06 AM
cantankerous

That Sapphire cooler has a MUCH bigger fan than reference ATI heatsink. Should cool better hopefully as well as much quieter. When all the reviews come out a week Monday I hope they review some of these models with aftermarket coolers and not just the stock reference cooler.
05-05-2007, 05:50 AM
Eastcoasthandle

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

That Sapphire cooler has a MUCH bigger fan than reference ATI heatsink. Should cool better hopefully as well as much quieter. When all the reviews come out a week Monday I hope they review some of these models with aftermarket coolers and not just the stock reference cooler.

I noticed it has its own 4 pin molex connection. But why aircool when you can water cool that beast of burden :fact:. I wonder if the Maze4 will fit ;)
05-05-2007, 07:15 AM
LowRun

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Originally Posted by DilTech

Actually, I'm using a bit of common sense on it..

Think about it. If they had THAT kind of headroom, do you think they'd launch them at 750mhz?

Yes, I do not have the card, that is a fact. I do know, however, that the 8600gts, which is less than half the transistors on the exact same process took over 1.7v(IIRC, may have been more) to achieve 1+ ghz on air. How hot do you think a 700 million transistor part would get at anywhere near that voltage on air?

Therefore, while it may technically be speculation, it's going by other parts on the same process. Other parts that should theoretically clock higher due to a smaller transistor count.

In end, there's no need to roll your eyes. :fact:

Well, first thing first, i never mentioned air :fact:

Second, if you base your speculation on what 8600gts can do and call it common sense, we'll just have to disagree on what common sense is, there is much more to the whole picture.

And third

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Originally Posted by Kinc

Yeah. For every overclocker this card will be a wet dream :D For me its always nice to know that there is much headroom by just removing more heat.

Those who like to build with watercooling will find the perf. gain from building with a high end watercooling system very pleasing.
05-05-2007, 10:24 AM
XeRo

hmm after seeing some 3dmark scores from Kinc and Denny, my hope has been renewed for this card. Hopefully, there will be a x2900XL at around the $300 range.
05-06-2007, 01:08 AM
bloodbanger

damned,high end watercooling...What do they mean with that..my next case is going to be a TT Armor with build-in wc-system,so that's not a good choice?I mean high-end WC is over-priced here in Belgium...And i'm a noob when it comes to putting a rig together,so i have to pay like a 100$ extra only for assembling the WC-system...
05-06-2007, 01:19 AM
SharkerSk

Some pics .....

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8740/his01mj6.th.png http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/180/his02aq0.th.png http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3302/his03ny7.th.png
:D
05-06-2007, 01:34 AM
onethreehill

X2900 3DMark numbers?
http://www.nordichardware.com/forum/...=8428&forum=45
05-06-2007, 01:41 AM
KTE

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodbanger

Just wondering what Kombatant(?)meant with"People are going to be pleasantly surprised",but i don't know if that part is already been explained/covered in some specs/previews...:stick:

Hehe

Most likely that it can OC much higher than one would expect and perf scaling is WOW. :toast:

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

X2900 3DMark numbers?
http://www.nordichardware.com/forum/...=8428&forum=45

Yup. VGA on air. :D
05-06-2007, 01:46 AM
flopper

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Originally Posted by KTE

Hehe

Most likely that it can OC much higher than one would expect and perf scaling is WOW. :toast:
Yup. VGA on air. :D

Seems watercooling will bring 1ghz to the masses.
That is nice.

14k in 06 seems also really nice. at 885mhz that indicate some headroom using watercooling.

The card priced as it is, and with some headroom clocking is a winner in my book.:clap:
05-06-2007, 02:06 AM
KTE

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Originally Posted by flopper

Seems watercooling will bring 1ghz to the masses.
That is nice.

:fact:

Key word is drivers. The last update made a HUGE difference in performance, no kidding.

You can go higher than 1/1 (GHz) even with WC.. for sure kinc will take it to the max with LN2.

I expect some WRs. :D
05-06-2007, 02:10 AM
bloodbanger

damned,i want to get my claws at one of these:),too bad there won't be much cards available in the beginning....
05-06-2007, 02:15 AM
biohead

For 357 EUR (you hear me) I'm tempted to pre-order the Sapphire HD2900XT 512MB ;o
05-06-2007, 06:38 AM
CBONE

It's hard to believe that no one has leaked any SKU or pricing information on these beyond a couple of websites with crazy high pre-order prices. Is there a reliable source for pricing info?
05-06-2007, 06:43 AM
KTE

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Originally Posted by CBONE

It's hard to believe that no one has leaked any SKU or pricing information on these beyond a couple of websites with crazy high pre-order prices. Is there a reliable source for pricing info?

IDK about pre-order, obviously that would be higher. But MSRP is $399 and some OEMs are even planning on rock bottom prices that I've heard. Much below your average expectations.

And that's with Black Box. :D
05-06-2007, 07:08 AM
naokaji

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Originally Posted by KTE

IDK about pre-order, obviously that would be higher. But MSRP is $399 and some OEMs are even planning on rock bottom prices that I've heard. Much below your average expectations.

And that's with Black Box. :D

and the first shops that receive the cards and manage to have them in stock at launch day will rip you off as usual....

i'd say wait a week after launch till more than 2-3 shops per country have them so the prices will start to get closer to reality
05-06-2007, 08:33 AM
Your_Boss

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Originally Posted by KTE

:fact:

Key word is drivers. The last update made a HUGE difference in performance, no kidding.

You can go higher than 1/1 (GHz) even with WC.. for sure kinc will take it to the max with LN2.

I expect some WRs. :D

I donno about that. Maybe no WR in 06. Have you seen this yet?
8800 ULTRA Single card 3dmark 2006:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/ultra...le%20ultra.jpg

http://www.kinc.se/06.JPG
05-06-2007, 08:56 AM
w0mbat

@Your_Boss: Why are u posting 8800U numbers in the HD2900 thread?

8800U |= HD2900
05-06-2007, 09:08 AM
Lightman

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@Your_Boss
To compete with this highly overclocked uber part from nVidia R600 would need to be clocked around 1.2GHz... Who knows if it can...

Back on topic.
Mayby this info will be of some relevance to someone :)

Attachment 58600

Source:
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=4547

Not that bad if manufacturer states 750-800MHz in given TDP range ;) Thats like saying 800MHz is guaranteed on this card no matter what (even with 2x6pin power connectors, obviously blocked by graphics card BIOS).
05-06-2007, 09:20 AM
mascaras

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Originally Posted by Your_Boss

I donno about that. Maybe no WR in 06. Have you seen this yet?

Gainward bliss 8800 ultra = 775 euros ( EVGA 8800ultra = 829 dolares newegg)

sapphire X2900XT = 360 euros & 380 euros

and that 8800 ultra scores was with quad-core @ 4900mhz LN2 cooled and 8800 ultra LN2 cooled also :D

regards
05-06-2007, 10:41 AM
satein

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Originally Posted by Your_Boss

I donno about that. Maybe no WR in 06. Have you seen this yet?
8800 ULTRA Single card 3dmark 2006:

Sorry mate, are you going to compare one with "stock & air cooling" score with another one with "LN2 extreme cooling" score? :fact:

If yes, I hope you run it like that 24/7 and don't forget to design a machin to do automatic puring LN2 to your ultra...
05-06-2007, 11:17 AM
flopper

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Originally Posted by mascaras

Gainward bliss 8800 ultra = 775 euros ( EVGA 8800ultra = 829 dolares newegg)

sapphire X2900XT = 360 euros & 380 euros

regards

Yea, 2 XT is what price/performance is to be compared to 1 Ultra card.
I guess ati wins then, landslide.
Half the price, with about the same performance using one card, I guess those XT cards isnt so shabby then.

I dont know, but who want to pay double the price for essentially the same performance?
If those price levels are at launch I guess buying a card this summer is a good deal then.
Good for me, good for ati/amd.
:woot:

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