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be-quite 600w.
I'm not allowed to share 1703.
got problem with kentsfield step4 and the p5w dh, board runs fine with the cpu but 3dmark 2006 give me unknown cpu , tried latest bios but that one suck's for kent, Ucode error.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchiuZ
anyone know how to fix this thing in 3d2006? can't publish now
:mad: When will it be available to the General Public?Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Don't know but it's not neccessarily going to become final on asus.com
oh and why do you want it? I already said it'd no different to 1602
I tried vMCH from default to 1,65v but nothing seems to change. I have got water cooling (OCLabs).Quote:
Originally Posted by mat8861
Can anybody tell me why I got CPU uCode error with the newest BIOS (like 1506 and 1601) and I don’t have it with 1407?!?
Not to start an argument, but why are so many FLASH HAPPY here? :confused2
I managed to get my cpu and ram working at 400 Fsb but now when I have upgraded to another 2Gb so I have total of 4Gb I can't boot up higher than 397 Fsb.
Bios: 1602.
Ram: Super Talent Pc-6400 1Gb x 4
Anyone else using 4Gb ram and have the same problem?
will 30mhz really make much difference? ;)
have you tried turning microcode update on in the bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by SchiuZ
withtout it, you will get uCode errors!
well done lawry 250,000 views of your thread must be one of the biggest
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Originally Posted by Sparx
I've wondered that myself. While not the crap shoot that it use to be there is still a risk to flashing.
Thanks :thumbsup:
Properbly not, it is just annoying to see 397 instead of 400. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
lol I know what you mean. My old opty did 2.75 Ghz and I wanted it to say 2.8Quote:
Originally Posted by Gascogne
yeh true lol :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gascogne
Guys...im trying to downgrade my bios...im with 1602 now ...trying to downgrade to factory bios...AsusUpdate doesnt let me downgrade...and afudos either.
is there ANY way to downgrade?
believe me...i have my reasons.
You can use Asus update, open the program click on the tab and scroll down to options, click next and then check bios downgradable. You can then update to any bios you have saved, old or new. Piece of cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by VIctorj
Hi there!
My P5W is running fine a few weeks now. But, since a while, the BIOS is inaccessable!
When booting the computer, first there is a black screen, with only a blinking dash -no BIOS splash screen. Then after 30 sec. the following message appears:
JMicron PCIE-SATAII / IDE RAID CONTROLLER, BIOS V1.06.56A
Detect drivers done, no any drive found.
Then Windows XP starts. There seems to be no way to get into BIOS.
I don't know exactly when this problem occured, perhaps when I changed the SATA drives from the EZ-headers to SATA1 and -3; perhaps when I installed the JMicron driver. I don't know.
I reinstalled XP 3x meanwhile :confused2 No change.
Is there any way to get the BIOS screen back? Uninstall the JMicron driver in some way?
Please help!
P5W # E6600 # 2x 1GB GSkill (GBPK) # MSI 7900GTO # E-MU 1212 # Seasonic 430 # Ninja
have u tried pressing delete lots of times when the black screen shows?
So many times the word 'Delete' is no more on the key :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
hehe, then I don't know..
try clearing CMOS just exactly how the p5wdh manual describes it
i really could not install Windows Vista RC2 on my rig tsk tsk
How come the motherboard just shows at startup I have 3Gb of ram when I have 4Gb? And even in Vista RC2 I have 3GB of ram...
I have check if one could be faulty, all works just fine.
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Originally Posted by lawrywild
sorry this is bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:
i phoned today with asus and they told me every bios they send out can share all over the world
i will search for this bios otherwise poooooooooooor guy
regards
hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by ´Lotzi
bios get worse as they go along so u not missing muchQuote:
Originally Posted by ´Lotzi
Just to chip in, i could install Vista but it would not boot on my rig either. That was before one of the BIOS's added "Vista HD Audio", so i dunno if that would help or not.
Strange I ran vista RTM to 2 weeks as my 24/7 OS just fine :rolleyes:
Hey guys stay cool, a bios update will be out soon enough. Just for future reference,if you can't share you might want to keep it under your hat "lw" that way you can avoid any animosity from building over what appears to be another mediocre bios. I still believe the 1305 is the best of the bunch for overclocking. I am going to fall back to it myself. after a little more than a week of the new 1602 it just does not perform as well as the 1305 does for me. On my system the 1305 is best.
WZ
for Delly
we cumpà.... ci si ritrova anche qui...è proprio piccolo il mondo..
I can see your point. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gascogne
I use 1305, what the heck can the later BIOS's do for me? The theory was not to flash unless you have a problem- or should I clarify the computer has a problem...Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
:caution:
i dunno i have tried every bios out and never have issues, I love this mobo, its old version too, first rev... rock solid
Not kill your harddrives ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
Well now my mobo doesn't want to do 1:1 @ 400FSB. I must try some things but this really sucks.
Molto piccolo, soprattutto sul web :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by R @ P T O R
Not sure I know what you mean. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
sparx
I want that feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
heheh, I was flashing my mobo with new versions as they come along in a bid to solve the Jmicron S3 resume issue but all that is in the past now, issue was solved by JMicron beta drivers so I am stuck at 1506 for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
Finally, the same stability as my P4C800-E setup at twice the speed/RAM and half the heat/noise, this rig's just rocking great! :D
PS: switching to Crucial RAM on this mobo helped too.
Pardon me for being in the dark but what is the Jmicron S3 isssue, something to do with RAID? Obviously Idon't use RAID. I have noticed the posts on this but didn't quite get the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacClipper
What RAM did you have before, Corsair?
sparx
What is killing hardrives? Are you guys referring to the cold boot bug? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by NghtShd
erm, affects only the guys like me who uses S3 sleep and resume. On S3 resume, devices on the JMicron go missing so Win XP will stutter and choke, complaining of missing devices (Event Viewer begins to fill up too).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
Was using Patriot Elpida RAM but these Crucial 10th Anniv. sticks are da bomb (runs tight and up to DDR1000 too)! Bought 8 of them and kept 6, passed 2 to another guy who's probably running them at DDR1000.
btw, think earlier BIOS keep powering down the HDs on reboots so the latter BIOS are preferred in preventing such sudden spin ups/downs = hopefully less wear and tear.
They mean later bios versions don't power down on a reset, thus pulling power from the hard drive before it gets a chance to spin down properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
i ordered the asus striker coming in on monday,having too many issues with this board...only had it for a few days but not really liking it much from switching from DFI infinity,hope the striker makes me smile
i'll report what that does
IF you have pc 8500 or higher can you see if the board will run the ram at 1066 mhz. I read it is suppose to no prob but I thought this board would to. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Babsy
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Originally Posted by lawrywild
i see you re not older than 12 years.
only kiddys are writing such :banana::banana::banana::banana: :slapass: :slapass: :slapass:
and lieing is poor...........
roflmfao :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by ´Lotzi
I think from 1503 forward that was solved, hope I am right.Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
I had the problem of power down on reset (and it was very evident) before going to 1503 unless it is only powering down the drives now and I haven't noticed.:mad:
MacClipper-
Thanks for the explaination and could you adopt me and thus buy RAM for my rigs from now on? :D
sparx
I have often wondered the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gascogne
I reckon it could make a difference because at 400 FSB the FSB is perfectly divisable by the PCI bus speed (33.33mhz) and the PCI-e bus speed (100mhz).
At weird FSB speeds like 397 FSB maybe the system has to introduce "wait states" to keep the various buses syncronized?
Well guys, I will buy some new memory, and I need some feedback about this one: GSKILL F26400CL4D-2GBPK
Those who have this kit, please give me your opinnions. Is it possible to boot without the spd timmings?? Is it stable at 400 mhz of fsb?
Thanks in advance
I have a major FSB wall/limitation at 356fsb. I can run my E6600 at 356 x 9 for 3.2 Ghz stable at all default voltages. One Mhz over 356 fsb and I'm not stable, regardless of any increases I try in voltages.
Is there any way to distinguish whether fsb limitations are due to the CPU or the motherboard?
P.S.: I also seem to have the fsb wall at 356 fsb even if I lower the CPU multiplier.
Guys...i have a thread with some questions about dh remote software...if anyone can give me a hand, head over here.
Thanx guys!
Sorry for the offtopic.
Ontopic: I want to change the northbridge stock cooler...its ridiculously hot to the touch...but i have one question:
I have a Thermaltake big typhoon...what would be the ideal companion to this monster(cause its almost over the chipset...and i dont want to buy something just to find out it doesnt fit.)
Thanx again.
EDIT: If anyone have pics, it would be GREAT!
the remote is limited, that's just how it is. It's good for basic functions and on/off computer.Quote:
Originally Posted by VIctorj
The cheapest way to fix cooling on the nb is to buy a 40mm fan and slap it on the heatsink itself. Otherwise if you want to do a complete aftermarket nb cooler, then you either have to cut out the heatpipe for the mosfet or remove it completely and just use ramsink. If you're worry about clearance issue with the TTBT, then I suggest the Jing-Ting nb cooler, it can pivot in configuration.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/jitijtchchco.html
cheap way: (Sunon 40x20mm Maglev)
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...cture001-1.jpg
aftermarket: (Swiftech MCX159)
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Picture022.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Picture026.jpg
I just mounted a fan on the stock northbridge heatsink after cleaning off the stock thermal "concrete" and replacing it with AS5.Quote:
Originally Posted by VIctorj
Good idea, Syne 24 has done it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by NghtShd
I have had one on mine from the start and it makes a significant difference in tempereature.
When you think about it Asus should have had active cooling on the NB factory stock-- for what these boards cost. :shrug: :moon:
I believe the stock HS is fine, but it needs a blow.
OT- This thread is about to hit 100 pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :toast:
sparx
Is there no more G.skill HZ?Quote:
Originally Posted by monza1412
Lots of guys have it with good results.
Edit Here isthe stuff I have (HZ) It sure has gone up in cost! :mad:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065
Sparx
I replaced the stock "goop" for some cheap ass thermal compound...and it works...its just ridiculously hot to the touch...so i tried ataching a fan...and it changes a lot...but i feel more like using an aftermarket cooler instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by NghtShd
What's under the ther heatsink(the other end of the heatpipe) and whats the best way to cool down those components?
What changes a lot?Quote:
Originally Posted by VIctorj
And, the MCH is under the heatsink and your mosfets (voltage regulators) are under the heat sink next to the CPU socket.
sparx
Temps...from passive to 40mm fan.
What exactly was the big problem anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
Killing the drives? T_T
My board powered down and stayed powered down for over 5 seconds before powering up. Thats about the same amount of time i power off manually after a system crash. I know the vapo guys had problems with this but this power down actually prevented some strange problems that i've seen since 1503 (different multipliers and certain voltage ranges sometimes causing failure to reboot, which didnt happen in 1407).
WAit a sec....what sensor gives the exact temps from the northbridge and southbridge? ..i can feel the heatsink a lot cooler than before, but cant find the temperature measurement anywhere :P (software? Everest perhaps?)
You can't read 975x temp through software
So is a touch and feel kinda measurement? :P Damn.
Anyway...i think i found a new use for the asus mosfets included blower. Pictures coming soon.
Get one of those indoor/outdoor thermometers (digital) reads in Fahrenheit and Celsius. One temp is read from inside the main unit the other is on a wire.Quote:
Originally Posted by VIctorj
Strip off the wired sensors outer coating and the probe becomes very tiny. Insulate any bare metal and then you can slide into places on your mother board etc. to check temps.
Of course you could buy a device like a Digidoc, or get a VOM that reads temps too.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...6-20/ref=nosim
http://www.weathershop.com/orsci_naw881.htm
My temps without the fan were 72C and with the fan went down to 37C.Quote:
Originally Posted by VIctorj
Sometimes when gaming without the fan 80c now the top is 40C-41C. Measurements are taken with an indoor/outdoor thermometer using the probe stuck into the heat sink as close to base and center as possible.
I got a Radio Shack 40 mm fan on it running at 7 volts, using the 7 volt trick.
I ghetto attached it with hot glue. :yepp: It was kind of loud at 12 volts but did cool a little better.
Sparx
Yeah.......I stuck a couple of THESE on my chipset.....very quiet and much cooler.
I have them connected to my front fan controller....but low or high I can't hear them :) :)
Nice looking fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by scaramonga
I think you MUST cool that MCH to get a stable and higher overclock, put your finger on it and you will understand. I run mine at 1.65 and it was hotter than hell.
You are in the UK, how much is that in Yankee dollars?
At current rate buddy.......about $9.79 each :)Quote:
You are in the UK, how much is that in Yankee dollars?
I stuck a Radical NB Block on my board, easily the best solution :fact: :banana:
Hi, so with regard to NB temps, has anyone had any issues with the temps causing crashes or lockup's, in fact any problems at all?
ChrisC
Nope, I run my Extreme Spirit II and ran my stock cooler fanless
Never had any problems (400fsb 24hours orthos on stock vmch)
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Originally Posted by Sparx
thanks Sparx for your anwser, but here where I live, I can only pick up this model of GSKILL, is so damn hard to find the better ones (HZ) cos nobody sells them.
By the way, can you boot with manual timings or you have to put spd timings?
Is it orthos (large test) stable at 400 mhz fsb?
Thanks in advance
I have managed to boot up at 400 fsb with Super Talent PC-6400 (manual timings 4-4-3-8 ) and it is stable in orthos (boot with 2Gb and 4Gb) with bios 1602.
Super Talent
Hi, I'm running my 6300 @2.8 with a FSB of 400. Not had any temp problems with the NB either. So I'm thinking it's 'percieved' problem not an actuall one...
ChrisC
Yeah I have the RAM manual- 4-4-4-12-4.Quote:
Originally Posted by monza1412
I am running 1:1 with Ortho stable at 400 x9 for 5.5 hours.
Never had a lock up except when I fiddled with my video card overclock, being a noob at overclocking video cards. :hitself:
Where are you are maybe someone can buy it here and ship it to you?
The RAM you are looking at has good timings but I know nothing about it.
I ship overseas all the time I could help?
sparx
Bios archive added to front page :)
I did some testing today
I got a friend who has some D9 which post on manual timings on both his P5WDH's and got him to send me his spd
I flashed my ADATA with the SPD, everything was fine but still no post on manual timings.
So I edited my own ADATA spd to DDR2-800 5-5-5-15 with tRFC @ 42
didn't do anything to help either so now I'm confident this is not an SPD issue, unless it is an issue within the subtimings that SPDTool cannot read..
Jason, a smart guy has found a solution for this major problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason404
Read the post of Wugger:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...e=en-us&page=5
Any help?Quote:
Originally Posted by rpr
Why don't you flash up to at least 1503.Quote:
Originally Posted by rpr
Also what power supply are you using?
What are your (critical) BIOS settings?
What are your Vcore and Vdimm and MCH voltages?
Are you using 105 for Pcie?
You got good cooling on the MCH heat sink?
Week 27 CPUS are quite good you have to be able to hit 3.5.
This has been covered on the thread here, but it is overwhelmingly HUGE and has to be hard to sort through.
sparx
have you tried using memset in windows to change tRFC to 42 and then use setfsb or clockgen to raise fsb in windows and see whether its unstable above 356?Quote:
Originally Posted by rpr
FINALLY I GOT HIGH FSB (400) WITH MANUAL TIMMINGS!!! I buy some Team Xtreem D9´s and it just boot fine!!! Now can set DDR2-1000@ 4-3-4-4 with FSB 400Mhz, Conroe 400*9=3600Mhz. I´m using bios 1602, will post my bios settings for u guys :)
Flashed to 1602 yesterday...no improvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
Power Supply is Antec 550 W True Power...seems to hold very stable voltages on all rails.
BIOS Settings...followed all suggested settings on this thread. Mostly all default, including SPD on Auto, except for PCIe on 100, on 33.3, and I have disabled Hyperthreading. I have also disabled all settings not used (i.e. Qfan).
Voltages...all Auto. I have tried almost every possible voltage setting independantly and in combination with others. Absolutely no help, other than to perhaps allow me to post but to fail Orthos in 60 seconds or less.
PCIe...tried 105, no help. Currently using 100.
Cooling...upgraded to Thermalright Ultra 120 for CPU, and Thermalright HR-05 (passive) on Northbridge. Again, absolutely no help.
This seems to be a classic case of an FSB wall that has no workaround, but I would like to know if it is my CPU or my motherboard holding me back. I have been following the entire thread...but I don't recall seeing any solutions to finding the root cause between the CPU or the motherboard (of course, other than to replace one of them).
Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
whats chip IC is on the ADATA ram?
and did you use hexworkshop to edit SPD tables because thats
the only way they can be edited.
i came to the conclusion its the ram ICs Elpida & promos
that are the problem, along with SPD timings set to low values.
the Micron D9GMH & Micron D9GKX dont have the 350 + FSB bug
will run at 400+ 1.1 with manual timings.
so if your wanting hassle free overclocking for these asus 975
chipset boards then buy micron IC's
Gskill
team extreme
cellshock
some crosair not all
iam running cellshock pc8000 at 3.3.3.8 & 400 fsb 1.1 with 2.2 volts
Well, I thought I tried this fix, but I'm not sure I properly implemented it. I didn't use setfsb or clockgen. I opened memset, set trfc to 42, set memset to reapply it, and then restarted and raised fsb in BIOS. If I recall corectly, I posted and booted, but again failed Orthos in less than 60 secoinds.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Everytime I open memset, trfc shows as 42, so I believe that is default of my memory's SPD.
powerchips and yes, the new timings were read properly by cpu-z and bios
nah, try using setfsb in windows after memset has applied tRFC 42Quote:
Originally Posted by rpr
Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
another 1 who has discovered how to break the 360 bug
buy micron D9 with the SPD table's programmed corectly:toast:
no more auto SPD timmings:woot:
team xtreme :toast:
cellshock :toast:
Gkkill :toast:
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Originally Posted by rpr
Antec PSU = BIG problem on this board
ahaha you call buying new ram a fix to a bugQuote:
Originally Posted by nanoprobe32
yeh right :slap:
oh and it's nothing to do with the SPD
my friend has D9 which is pc2-4300 4-4-4-12 and he boots fine at 400fsb.
it's all about how well your ram can handle tRFC, and it isn't fixed until asus give the option to adjust tRFC
Sorry to be so lame, but I just googled setfsb and couldn't find a version for this board's chipset anywhere. Link?Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
So Larry,Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
This is a random thing with the tRFC, that is RAM related, from kit to kit if I follow correctly?
Edit: Also I have G.skill and never had a problem - Is g.skill HZ suppose to have this bug?
sparx
what's your current settings now?Quote:
Originally Posted by rpr
vdimm
vcore
vmch
That's all I can conclude so far.. we've seen people with the same kits and chips, some with the problem, some without. but one thing is for sure, changing tRFC gets you past this. (memset 3.0) and spd timings which sets tRFC to 42 (as proved by memset again).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/down...15a3_P5WD2.zipQuote:
Originally Posted by rpr
note: you need the ATK1101 driver installed and enabled in device manager (can be found in the acpi/win2000 folder in asus probe II or aibooster etc software installation package)
Thanks LarrywildQuote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
I guess no need to fiddle with it since I am fine at 400 x 9. But I would like to take a peek at this setting using memset 3.0 once I understand how it works.
Never hurts to know more.
sparx
Thanks! I will give it a try and report back with findings.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Im using Super Talent PC-6400 and I can boot fine at 400 fsb with manual timing 4-4-3-8, I have no idea if they are D9 or not but they are good ram atleast. :)
Super Talent PC-6400
Pretty sure they're D9