bh5 steppping database

Well, if I'm not mistaking, there are 256MB Twinmos Speed Premium modules, so perhaps, they are Winbond based (1A4T or AA4T).
Just saw that for example the Newegg product picture for the 256MB TMSP shows Winbond based chips. The question is only, if the pics match the real product that you'd receive.

BTW, in about 6 weeks (unfortunately no time ATM), I hope I'll be able to add the following to this database:
3x 256MB Infineon 6-A PC2700 (Winbond based, seems to be BH-6): 250 Mhz/3.2V
2x 256MB VT/Kreton PC3200 UTT chips (CH-die): 250MHz/3.2V
2x 512MB VT/Kreton PC3200 UTT chips (BH-die): 250Mhz/~3.4V
1x 512MB Infineon 6-A PC2700 (same as the 256MB Infineons): 200MHz/2.8V
1x 512MB FCM PC2700 Winbond BH-6: not here yet
Fastest timings (2-2-2-10 for all sticks).

I know, none of the modules is BH-5-based, but I still hope that the results will be accepted, when I finally post them. :)

Exact results from all the modules will follow. :)

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Originally Posted by KoNiaK

Did twinmos release some 256MB sticks of BH5 in there pro line? or did all of their chips of BH5 went into the 3200 cas2.5 with out selections ?

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Thanks celemine1Gig but I am wondering about the old BH5 not the UTT

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Originally Posted by KoNiaK

Thanks celemine1Gig but I am wondering about the old BH5 not the UTT

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Well, I don't really get what you mean then. :confused:
Old BH-5 isn't available anymore for over a year. How come, you think that Twinmos should be able to produce with old chips?
The only chance to get old BH-5 equipped 256MB sticks is eBay or forums. I doubt that there is any reseller that still has stock on the old modules.

And if you mean the old "new" BH-5 (UTT is synonymous for new CH-die and BH-die chips, in case you don't know), just look for "1A4T". Otherwise, no chance to still get old BH-5 sticks. At least you won't find any recent Winbond chips with a real Winbond label printed on them. All chips available ATM are remarked.

I got a friend who have some old BH5 from twinmos - not new die CH or BH. It´s regular 3200 twinmos, SPD 2.5, but not twister/pro line. That´s why I wonder if they are gona be any good or if it´s only the crapy chips which went in this line and the good one in another.

I didn´t find any informations telling me that twinmos produced BH5 in twister or pro line, but it´s probably a 2 to 3 year old if it existed so it would not be surprising if can´t find the information even if it existed.

The problem is that where I live now it´s gonna be a real pain to send them and recieved them in a good shape. I´ll also have to gather informations about the customs. I don´t want to go threw all this crap if it´s sure that the stick won´t clock high.

Man, honestly, use the search function next time. I don't know how much threads there are about the original old Twinmos BH-5 sticks, but there sure are plenty.

99% of the time, there was no difference between Twinmos and let's say Mushkin or any other BH-5 RAM.
It's just luck of the draw. Either you get a good, a average or a bad pair. Doesn't matter if it says Twinmos or something else on the sticks.

And how I look for a model that I don´t know if it exist and even don´t know the potential name ;)

I´d actualy did a few search with twister+bh5 and cheked the ram list, before posting, nothing. But the list is not exaustive for twinmos. What I am actualy looking forward is that the rep tell me if there was or not.

In this case it´s not "let's say Mushkin or any other BH-5" it´s more like VX 3500 vs 4000 ;)

corsair 2x256mb pc3500 bh5 on nf7-s

250 @ 2-2-2-11 , 3.6v (WE302 & 326)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...t/PICT0088.jpg

Is there a screen for:
"314we" 2.0-2-2 3.90v 290mhz (khx 3500 256mb@nf3)

Can´t find it with search tool, is it single?

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Originally Posted by gsan

corsair 2x256mb pc3500 bh5 on nf7-s

250 @ 2-2-2-11 , 3.6v (unknown week and year)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...t/PICT0088.jpg

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What mods are you running? How much chipset voltage, I can also run 250 mhz single channel but dual channel totally sucks..

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Originally Posted by Rub87

What mods are you running? How much chipset voltage, I can also run 250 mhz single channel but dual channel totally sucks..

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memtest#86 test 5, chipset 1.7vdd, I'm going to mod the ddr booster soon, see whether can give me extra mhz or not. :)

didnt see any twinmos pc3500 result yet. mostly pc3200.

I didnt read all the 24 Pages full of postings ;) Just took a look at the List on the first Page. And there is something that really makes me confused.

"3092E" 2.0-2-2 3.30v 245mhz (twinmos 3200 256MB@nf2)

Should be BH5 ...

BUT !

I have Sticks with exactly!! this "3092E" on the Chips and they are labeld as BH6 ! And were sold as DDR333. They also do this 245 Mhz @ 3.3v ....

:confused:

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Originally Posted by Giana

I didnt read all the 24 Pages full of postings ;) Just took a look at the List on the first Page. And there is something that really makes me confused.

"3092E" 2.0-2-2 3.30v 245mhz (twinmos 3200 256MB@nf2)

Should be BH5 ...

BUT !

I have Sticks with exactly!! this "3092E" on the Chips and they are labeld as BH6 ! And were sold as DDR333. They also do this 245 Mhz @ 3.3v ....

:confused:

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Man that is only the production year and week and an additional internal code from winbond. This has absolutely nothing to do with the labling of the chips as BH-5 or BH-6. ;)

2*256 adata 0313we -> 275.4mhz 2/2/2/5/7/12/2/2/1/2 at 3.8v bios

http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemag...vers/313we.jpg

http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemag...s/bh5batch.jpg

the 2 first make 275mhz stable
the 2 others soon in test :)

stable Superpi 32mo / 3d mark (no test memtest)

http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemag...uperpi32mo.JPG

There is no week 36? Here comes mine:

"336wf" 1.5-2-2 3.65v 265mhz (Mushkin PC3500 512mb@nf4)

@ boblemagnifique

nice bh5 u got :)

thank

batch 0309 & 0346 :D (vddr 4v , bios 309 or 702-2)

http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemag...5/278.1mhz.jpg

hey guys

ive got some corsair Plat(XMS3205v1.1) i bought like 1 1/2 yrs ago off of someone in this forum. they are bh-5 the chips are labeled whinbond 3072E W942508BH-5 i last used these way back in my NF2-2600xp-m system and i believe 250fsb was what i was getting 2-2-2 but if you rember back then 250 on a nf2 was damm good and mostly rare so im sure if i tried these in my 64 system id probly see alot nicer results no?

ill pop these babys into my 64 rig and test em out. ill post back with results..

peace perc,

Hi, my BH-5 does around 265-270 on lanparty..

Is ist normal that if I run the mem for exempla @ the 7:10 divider it is able to archive better results then when running 1:1 with the same timings?

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Originally Posted by babyelf

can't get aida no more.. any ideas on how to get the week with other programs? cpuz spd is empty .. can't find it in everest too..

but doing 260mhz 2-2-2-5 3.3V prime/memtest/games stable.. gonna push it up higher

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everest also shows the spd week irc :)

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Originally Posted by arcane613

saaya, quick question.. i noticed something before i pulled the heatspreaders off...
you said to put something similar to the following ("2302D" 2.0-2-2 3.25v 235mhz (adata 3200 256mb@nf2)).. and i do see some numbers like that in the database... if i look on my mushkin special BH-6, it has the reg stepping... but there is a little IC at the bottom, visible with the heatspreader on... is 2402E, could mean some peeps r reading that instead of taking the full IHS off? jus wondering...

here is my Mushkin BH-6
"334WF" 2.0-2-2 3.2v 243mhz (mushkin 3200 512mb@nf2)

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LOL, never thougt of that... but id be surprised if they read the stepping of the spd eeprom chip, there are at least 2 guys i go theese codes from who i dont think are stupid enough to not know what the eeprom and what the winbond chip is :D
so i think its just a coincidence...

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Originally Posted by felinusz

I have two more for you saaya :)

First set is my 2x256 Megs Corsair XMS PC3500 v1.1. One stick has 310we stepped chips, the other stick is half and half 310we, and 322wf.

In my DFI nForce4 motherboard, this set peaks at 273 MHz for memtest86 stability, using 1.5-2-2-3 timings, and 3.78V of VDIMM voltage. BIOS revision 510-2.


Second result is my 2x256 Megs Mushkin Black LII PC3200. All the chips are stepped 3052e. The sticks peak at 270 MHz for memtest86 stability, using 2-2-2-5 timings, and 3.89V of VDIMM. BIOS Revision 510-2.

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thx, added your info as this: (memtest isnt windows+3d stable so i entered a slightly lower result)
"310WE" 2.0-2-2-5 3.8v 270mhz (corsair 3500 256mb@nf4)
"310WE" 2.0-2-2-5 3.8v 270mhz (twinmos 3200 256mb@nf4)
"322WF" 2.0-2-2-5 3.8v 270mhz (twinmos 3200 256mb@nf4)

"3052E" 2.0-2-2-5 3.9v 265mhz (mushkin 3200 256mb@nf4)
"3052E" 2.0-2-2-5 3.9v 265mhz (mushkin 3200 256mb@nf4)

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Originally Posted by KoNiaK

Did twinmos release some 256MB sticks of BH5 in there pro line? or did all of their chips of BH5 went into the 3200 cas2.5 with out selections ?

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they aölso made a very limited eidtion of pc3700 with bh5 chips :D
a veeery rare edition, i own a dual channel kit of those, havent seen anybody else with twinmos 3700 based on bh5 so far.

so to answer your question, back then 99% of the bh5 went to the vanilla 3200 2.5-3-3 sticks. twinmos now has a high performence offer for memory, back then they only had value stuff afaik.

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Originally Posted by KoNiaK

Is there a screen for:
"314we" 2.0-2-2 3.90v 290mhz (khx 3500 256mb@nf3)

Can´t find it with search tool, is it single?

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most likely single, yeah, and not everybody here sent me screenshots, i trust people if they say they reached a certain speed :)

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Originally Posted by Giana

I didnt read all the 24 Pages full of postings ;) Just took a look at the List on the first Page. And there is something that really makes me confused.

"3092E" 2.0-2-2 3.30v 245mhz (twinmos 3200 256MB@nf2)

Should be BH5 ...

BUT !

I have Sticks with exactly!! this "3092E" on the Chips and they are labeld as BH6 ! And were sold as DDR333. They also do this 245 Mhz @ 3.3v ....

:confused:

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i know, i think winbond labeled some as bh5 and some as bh6 but they are actually made in the old 150nm process (bh6)

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Originally Posted by Perc

hey guys

ive got some corsair Plat(XMS3205v1.1) i bought like 1 1/2 yrs ago off of someone in this forum. they are bh-5 the chips are labeled whinbond 3072E W942508BH-5 i last used these way back in my NF2-2600xp-m system and i believe 250fsb was what i was getting 2-2-2 but if you rember back then 250 on a nf2 was damm good and mostly rare so im sure if i tried these in my 64 system id probly see alot nicer results no?

ill pop these babys into my 64 rig and test em out. ill post back with results..

peace perc,

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yepp :D
be sure to post the results hehe :D

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Originally Posted by Rub87

Hi, my BH-5 does around 265-270 on lanparty..

Is ist normal that if I run the mem for exempla @ the 7:10 divider it is able to archive better results then when running 1:1 with the same timings?

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you mean the memory is running slower than the fsb and this gives you a higher oc? hmmm i never heard of this before.
if it was the other way around it could be that your fsb is limiting you.

you do know that a divider slightly changes your memory speed, right?
so it will show your memory speed as a few mhz higher than it actually is, while in 1:1 it always shows the exact memory speed in cpuz for example.

@everybody:
thx a lot for all those new entries! :D
unfortunately half of you posted the results not like i asked you to and there are infos missing so i cant add them :P
i sent those people a pm asking them to pm or post the full results, and to please post them as:

"303WF" 2.0-2-2-5 3.5v 265mhz (twinmos 3200 256mb@nf3)

for example :D

thx a lot again to all the people who are sharing their reults here :toast:

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Originally Posted by saaya

i know, i think winbond labeled some as bh5 and some as bh6 but they are actually made in the old 150nm process (bh6)

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:nono: Winbond's datasheets actually prove BH-6 is 175nm. Just like BH-5.

btw. I updated your "the bh-5/bh-6 legend" thread.

nice research!
why didnt you pm me about this earlier? didnt notice your posts :D

what about the OCZ Gold Series Winbond UTT BH5?

thats what i also wondered about. there is def new bh5, but is it really bh5 or is it ch5 tested to run 2-2-2 and then labeled bh5 by winbond even though its actually a different ic? there is definately ch5 that runs 2-2-2, so why would winbond go back to an older design and produce bh5 ics? hmmm

I sended sayaa these results via pm yesterday, but there aren't complete, I told him already...this is what I had on BH5 this year (5 of these pairs were belonging to a friend of mine):

System: MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum + 3000+ Winchester
ALL 2x512MB Dual Channel
ALL Timings: 2-2-2-5-12 1T
ALL Memtest86 5&7 30min

TT Twinmos BH5 (no more details sry)
240MHZ 3.08V
260MHZ 3.31V
270MHZ nicht möglich

TT Twinmos Black (black HS, no more details sry)
240MHZ 3.05V
260MHZ 3.65V
270MHZ 3.9V

Twinmos Relabled BH5 (no more details sry)
240MMHZ 3.15V

Twinmos 311WE W942508BH-5
270MHZ 3.84V

Twinmos Relabled 03034TMD7608F8E50D
240 MHZ 3.37V
245MZH 3.47V

K8N Neo2 Plat. + 3500+ NC
2x512 MB Kingston KHX BH5 (maybe I'll find the detailed description)
258MHZ 3.6V

2x512 MB NEW BH5 Twinmos
~ 245MHZ @3.6V but just for testing purposal

Again sorry I missed to write down all the details of the BH5 but at least you can see a few new results ;)

Regards,
SoF