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12-05-2007, 08:07 AM
nr2134

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Originally Posted by malik22

Wiil two 3870 work in crossfire on ASUS P5W DH Deluxe?

Yes they will. I had 2 X1900's running xfire on that board.
12-05-2007, 09:02 AM
madcho

yes
12-05-2007, 10:50 AM
marauder16

hello, anyone, don't tell me you don't know anything about this:

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is there any chance for some software to pop up with the voltage control for the GPU (and RAM)? thnx

or does this has to be BIOS supported, I'm asking cause that was possible with the 2900XT, right?
12-05-2007, 11:11 AM
Eastcoasthandle

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Originally Posted by marauder16

hello, anyone, don't tell me you don't know anything about this:

or does this has to be BIOS supported, I'm asking cause that was possible with the 2900XT, right?

Make and model of said ram would answer that question much quicker :p:
2900XT uses oc'able ram, that much we know.
12-05-2007, 11:16 AM
marauder16

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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

Make and model of said ram would answer that question much quicker :p:
2900XT uses oc'able ram, that much we know.

ok RAM, but what about GPU, didn't 2900XT have an option for vgpu raising? (or did I understand sth wrong...)
12-05-2007, 11:46 AM
Unbornchild

You're confused with ATI Overdrive. Of course that works on 38*0 cards as well.
12-05-2007, 12:54 PM
Eastcoasthandle

review of 3870 using cf from legit review
source
12-05-2007, 01:06 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Here are the IC's used
source
Samsung K4U52324QE-BC08 (hard to read from the previous photo)
Rated at 0.83ns (1200MHz)

Everyone with a 3870 should be obtaining at least 1200MHz with these ICs.
12-05-2007, 02:03 PM
Unbornchild

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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

review of 3870 using cf from legit review
source

Note: it is Vista 64-bit. The Test System:

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The test system was running Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit with all available Microsoft updates including the hotefixes required for enthusiast video cards to run correctly.
NVIDIA Forceware 169.05 beta video card drivers were used on all of the GeForce series graphics cards except for the XFX GeForce 8800GT as it ran newer 169.12 drivers.
ATI CATALYST 7.11 drivers were used on the Radeon HD 3850, 2900 XT and HD 2600 XT graphics cards. All results shown in the charts are averages of at least three runs from each game or application used.
12-05-2007, 02:09 PM
drjunk

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...4543&Itemid=34

I was gutted when i clicked the link on this page for the PowerColor hd3870 512mb overclocked PCS for £140

Should have expected 0 stock lol.
12-05-2007, 03:35 PM
zerazax

Pretty damn good scores on Vista 64-bit w/ CF considering how bad multi-GPU setups on x64 Vista have been going. 2 3850's pretty consistently match or exceed the GTX and 2 3870s pretty consistently match or exceed the Ultra. I'm wondering if Quad-fire can keep up the scaling...
12-05-2007, 08:58 PM
Donnie27

Mine still sucks playing call of duty 4 or if any AA is turned on, oh crap I should waited for the 8800GT:(

Even overclocked to C2D 3.2GHz, the video card was choked so bad, its game action stopped for 2 seconds LOL! It was not only a slide show at 1600 X 1050, it was a slow stop action slide show. Crysis did a little better but again, turn on either AA or AF it sucks again. I must admit though even at a low res 1024 X 768 the game looks better. I could set pretty high settings with HalfLife2 E2 but after CoD4 and Crysis its visuals look weak.

Yepp, please guys. Keep talking about CrossFire because it sucks to use one of these alone. I overclock some and FPS went 2fps, so I set it back to stock. I'm thinking about taking a loss and sending back or trading to someone looking for a 2nd card for CrossFire:(
12-05-2007, 09:06 PM
Zytek_Fan

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

Mine still sucks playing call of duty 4 or if any AA is turned on, oh crap I should waited for the 8800GT:(

Even overclocked to C2D 3.2GHz, the video card was choked so bad, its game action stopped for 2 seconds LOL! It was not only a slide show at 1600 X 1050, it was a slow stop action slide show. Crysis did a little better but again, turn on either AA or AF it sucks again. I must admit though even at a low res 1024 X 768 the game looks better. I could set pretty high settings with HalfLife2 E2 but after CoD4 and Crysis its visuals look weak.

Yepp, please guys. Keep talking about CrossFire because it sucks to use one of these alone. I overclock some and FPS went 2fps, so I set it back to stock. I'm thinking about taking a loss and sending back or trading to someone looking for a 2nd card for CrossFire:(

I'd send it back and get one of the new 8800GT's (now with a bigger fan!)
12-06-2007, 01:28 AM
Yakyb

hmm nice review from legit but i think im still going tot hold for the 9800 in feb
12-06-2007, 06:47 AM
ryanmartini

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

Mine still sucks playing call of duty 4 or if any AA is turned on, oh crap I should waited for the 8800GT:(

Even overclocked to C2D 3.2GHz, the video card was choked so bad, its game action stopped for 2 seconds LOL! It was not only a slide show at 1600 X 1050, it was a slow stop action slide show. Crysis did a little better but again, turn on either AA or AF it sucks again. I must admit though even at a low res 1024 X 768 the game looks better. I could set pretty high settings with HalfLife2 E2 but after CoD4 and Crysis its visuals look weak.

Yepp, please guys. Keep talking about CrossFire because it sucks to use one of these alone. I overclock some and FPS went 2fps, so I set it back to stock. I'm thinking about taking a loss and sending back or trading to someone looking for a 2nd card for CrossFire:(

EH? With the latest cats, I am running Call of Duty 4 @ 1920 x 1080 at 4X AA with very smooth framerates on it overclocked to 860 / 1300. Something must be wrong with your setup. Either your PSU isnt up to snuff, or your overclock on the CPU / RAM is unstable.

Crysis runs at 1680 x 1050 very nicely. I dont turn on AA as to me its not worth the fps hit when the game already looks great at the resolution and high on.
12-06-2007, 07:39 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan

I'd send it back and get one of the new 8800GT's (now with a bigger fan!)

Filed under WTF was I thinking.:rofl: The one good thing might be that I bought from Best Buy so maybe i can take it back and at least avoid return shipping. The only difference between this thing the 18 and 1950 is at same same lower Res you can use higher details. Use a higher Res and then you have to lower details. Hi-Res lower details look worse than Lower (Not Low) Res with High Details.

Oh, it loves HalfLife 2 E-2, Medal Of Honor Airborne also. But newer games like Crysis and CoD4 is one of the Reasons I got the card. I didn't have Higher expectations and would have been happy with playable Frame Rates. One week separated me from getting an 8800GT just bad luck:rolleyes:

Then to top it off, it doesn't have Video In. So no more OSD for my HK 247 Receiver:down: Must be something to do with HDMI that it supports. Last but not least Visiontek's Retail Card is nothing more than an OEM card in a Fancy Box.

Price cut? If this is worth its price, then the 3870 should be sold for about $179 LOL!

The card is quieter:up:
12-06-2007, 07:42 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by ryanmartini

EH? With the latest cats, I am running Call of Duty 4 @ 1920 x 1080 at 4X AA with very smooth framerates on it overclocked to 860 / 1300. Something must be wrong with your setup. Either your PSU isnt up to snuff, or your overclock on the CPU / RAM is unstable.

Crysis runs at 1680 x 1050 very nicely. I dont turn on AA as to me its not worth the fps hit when the game already looks great at the resolution and high on.

Dewd I'm running the 7.11 Cats yeah right, my rig has something wrong with it:clap:
12-06-2007, 10:14 AM
malik22

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

Dewd I'm running the 7.11 Cats yeah right, my rig has something wrong with it:clap:

Man stop trolling tons of people with the 3870 playing those games perfectley and you should try the crysis hotfix for crysis.
12-06-2007, 10:44 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by malik22

Man stop trolling tons of people with the 3870 playing those games perfectley and you should try the crysis hotfix for crysis.

Do you even know what Trolling is? Before you put your foot in your mouth again, why don't ask a question first? Like;
You: Hey Donnie27, have tried the Crysis Hotfix?
Me; Yes I have the Hotfix installed.

Get it? Maybe I did do something wrong as a private Email from someone who knows me suggests. I'm open:P Now, would you like to try that or do you like coming off as a jerk trowing the Troll tag around? I bought this card to enjoy, not to belittle:rolleyes:

I had Zero SCP problems with my X-Fi, know a tons of others who haven't as well. So when the ones with problems complain, are they Trolls?:rofl:
12-06-2007, 11:27 AM
PhilDoc

All I can say is that I can run COD4 X4AA, everything else turned up at stock on a 3870 just fine, 1920 x 1200. This is on a Opty 185 at 3.1 and Vista 32bit. Maybe try re-installing your drivers as something is amiss
12-06-2007, 01:10 PM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by PhilDoc

All I can say is that I can run COD4 X4AA, everything else turned up at stock on a 3870 just fine, 1920 x 1200. This is on a Opty 185 at 3.1 and Vista 32bit. Maybe try re-installing your drivers as something is amiss

I'm thinking something is wrong too, now. I just wish folks would first try to be helpful before trashing out folks. Thank you for the advice without acting like the other guy:) I'm thinking I might not have removed one of the crtl apps or something. I tried it with my E6600 overclocked to 3.2GHz and then again at stock to make sure it wasn't throttling. If I get time to clean out EVERYTHING and anything named ATI, then re-install I'll report back.
12-06-2007, 01:15 PM
mascaras

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donnie27

Mine still sucks playing call of duty 4 or if any AA is turned on, oh crap I should waited for the 8800GT:(

Crysis did a little better but again, turn on either AA or AF it sucks again. I must admit though even at a low res 1024 X 768 the game looks better. I could set pretty high settings with HalfLife2 E2 but after CoD4 and Crysis its visuals look weak.

playing crysis at 1680x1050 with AA enable ???

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

I should waited for the 8800GT:(

Why???

do you think Crysis is playable with 8800GT with AA enbale at that resolution ???

BFG 8800GT 512Mb OC edition (with AA Disable @1680x1050) :

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3986/crisssx5.jpg

Single Powercolor HD3850 256MB

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/191...glecardbe5.jpg

Crossfire Powercolor HD3850 256MB

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/615/crysiscfuq4.jpg

Btw: do you have the Crysis Hotfix Instaled????

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

Even overclocked to C2D 3.2GHz, the video card was choked so bad, its game action stopped for 2 seconds LOL! It was not only a slide show at 1600 X 1050, it was a slow stop action slide show.

ABout cod4 runs great even with a HD3850 256Mb , its one of the games where AMD/ATi cards (single & Crossfire ) runs better

SIngle Powercolor HD3850 256MB

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/6...ardnovojz5.jpg

Crossfire Powercolor HD3850 256MB

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9...ossfireue4.jpg

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

2 but after CoD4 and Crysis its visuals look weak.

All tests done with Windows XP 32-bit

maybe you have some problem with your system , you should chek that

regards
12-06-2007, 01:22 PM
Miwo

The simplest way is to just run Driver Cleaner / Driver Sweeper. Thats pretty much guarantees a clean out of all NV/ATI stuff. I havn't had problems in particular with my 3870, though I am using XP-32bit, which is probably ideal. I'm happy with my card and am not running crossfire either. Perhaps your stock clocked e6600 is your bottleneck?
12-06-2007, 01:28 PM
Miwo

I agree with you on VIVO Donnie, it certainly sucks that the 38x0 do not have it. My old x1900xtx had video input though :(. I checked Newegg and the 8800GTs do not support video in either. I guess its just the companies trying to get us to buy their seperate tuners :doh:
12-06-2007, 02:53 PM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by Miwo

I agree with you on VIVO Donnie, it certainly sucks that the 38x0 do not have it. My old x1900xtx had video input though :(. I checked Newegg and the 8800GTs do not support video in either. I guess its just the companies trying to get us to buy their seperate tuners :doh:

R U SERIOUS!!!?? I NEED/WANT VIVO! in fact that makes up a large proportion of y i decided going to get 3870... wth do i do now? *sigh*

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