Goliath Triple Cooling System

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Originally Posted by Mech0z

Lend the money and fire up your battlestation and sell tickets to see it in action, its just like seeing shuttle launch!

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Its funny you mentioned the shuttle launch. My wife and friends tell me every time I'm working on the build....." You need a launch pad for that thing, just in case it starts to fly":D

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Originally Posted by lloydsmart

So... this may be a silly question, and apologies if it's already been answered, but now that you have the SS for your CPU where the hard drives were going to go, where are you going to mount your hard drives? Also, is there any chance you can still water-cool them? As that would be awesome.

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The hard drives will be mounted in a Lian-Li EX-33 Expansion Hard Drive Kit, which will be mounted in three 5.25" bays. The last bay will be for the CD-RW drive. I could possibly still watercool the drives, but I don't think it will be necessary. There will be a 120mm fan blowing across the drives and another 120mm fan pulling hot air out of the case.

Looks in for more pics..sees none..cries..:D

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Originally Posted by Movieman

Looks in for more pics..sees none..cries..:D

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I'll be posting pics soon.;) I'm in the process of modifying the cooling chamber. I have a little back-up plan "surprise" coming...this thing has started growing again.:shocked:

I'm need to estimate the heat load for two overclocked GTX 285's and NB/SB on Evga Classified. I'm guessing around 700 watts.....what do you guys think?

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Originally Posted by Sweeper

I'm need to estimate the heat load for two overclocked GTX 285's and NB/SB on Evga Classified. I'm guessing around 700 watts.....what do you guys think?

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you could probably cut that in half and be closer to a real number...

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Originally Posted by antiacid

you could probably cut that in half and be closer to a real number...

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I thought the GTX 285 was about 185 watts @ full load....not overclocked and I have no idea what the NB/SB would be. Sure wish there was a way to calculate the heat load.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'm still quite Gobsmacked! or as Americans would say.......... Awesome!

growing agian :eek: man its already insane!!! You have some awesome fab skills everything looks like it was made to be put there lol cant wait to see this thing in action :up:

Nice ping rate!
Perhaps someday everybody can have a sub-100ms ping rate ... anywhere on the planet (good 4 gamers) !!


It's all good
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Pascal

Dunno about anyone else, but I'm starting to get withdrawal symptoms here! :D

Any news?

Pretty much impossible to type the my reaction to this thread in midst of all the other posts, but I must try regardless. :worship: Quite the masterpiece of technology!

I've always appreciated the end-result and DIYness of this stuff, but never quite understood it like I understand watercooling, especially when looking at pictures of refrigerant-cooled computers. Found a few sites that help explain the concept but then I try to understand a true :pimp: of application like this and I go all :slobber:

Gonna go noob for a sec so I can just organize stuff in my mind.

[noob]
Computer Cooling (order of effectiveness)

1. Air
2. Watercooling
3. Chilled Liquid
4. Phase Change
5. Thermoelectric
6. LN2/etc

This refrigerant system is in the chilled liquid forum, but I've also seen refridgerator/air conditioner builds in the phase change forum as well. Is this build only one or both categories? Does the difference have to do with what liquid is being used (refrigerant or water)? I assume normal water blocks are used for the diagram's evaporator function, along with the component's produced heat of course. Does this mean you could safely use the new EVGA X58 Classified full board water block as well - cause that would be total awesomness.

Anyway, here's some guides I found to explain the process, but I'm still at a loss what does what in this system.
The Refrigeration Cycle,
Computer Refrigerant Cooling Thread,
Refrigeration Basics,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...gerationTS.png

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Now that I'm out of noob mode, how's the progress on getting components installed?

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Originally Posted by lloydsmart

Dunno about anyone else, but I'm starting to get withdrawal symptoms here! :D

Any news?

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Sorry guys I've not posted any results lately. I've had few things to take care of on a personal level and I also have to make changes to the cooling system for the liquid loop. My problem is that I don't have enough liquid supply to keep cooled down to maintain low temps for the heat load. The system will only hold 96 ounces of liquid, which heats up fast under a 600 watt load and the heat exchanger cannot cool the liquid down fast enough.

So, I'm building a reservoir with a heat exchanger inside that will be mounted inside the cooling chamber. I will be adding another compressor to cool the liquid, before it circulates through the main heat exchanger and I will have 2 gallons of liquid to cool down.

Making this change will cause me to fabricate all the closure panels inside the chamber again to make room for the reservoir, which will be a lot of work. So, the build has another delay.:shakes: But, in the end, this will be a duel chiller system and should hold the heat load very well....I hope.

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Originally Posted by liguhy

Pretty much impossible to type the my reaction to this thread in midst of all the other posts, but I must try regardless. :worship: Quite the masterpiece of technology!

I've always appreciated the end-result and DIYness of this stuff, but never quite understood it like I understand watercooling, especially when looking at pictures of refrigerant-cooled computers. Found a few sites that help explain the concept but then I try to understand a true :pimp: of application like this and I go all :slobber:

Gonna go noob for a sec so I can just organize stuff in my mind.

[noob]
Computer Cooling (order of effectiveness)

1. Air
2. Watercooling
3. Chilled Liquid
4. Phase Change
5. Thermoelectric
6. LN2/etc

This refrigerant system is in the chilled liquid forum, but I've also seen refridgerator/air conditioner builds in the phase change forum as well. Is this build only one or both categories? Does the difference have to do with what liquid is being used (refrigerant or water)? I assume normal water blocks are used for the diagram's evaporator function, along with the component's produced heat of course. Does this mean you could safely use the new EVGA X58 Classified full board water block as well - cause that would be total awesomness.

Anyway, here's some guides I found to explain the process, but I'm still at a loss what does what in this system.
The Refrigeration Cycle,
Computer Refrigerant Cooling Thread,
Refrigeration Basics,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...gerationTS.png

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Now that I'm out of noob mode, how's the progress on getting components installed?

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The design of the system is three refrigerated cooling systems with different methods of cooling. The first system is a refrigerated air tight cooling chamber, which will cool the air inside the chamber down to subzero temps and remove heat from the motherboard chips. Also, will prevent condensation from the CPU, GPU and NB cooling blocks.

The second system is a direct die heat exchanger block to remove heat load from the CPU only.

The third system is a duel compressor chiller for cooling the low temp fluid that circulates through two GPU full cover blocks and NB/SB full cover blocks. The blocks will be modified to handle the low temps and fluid pressure of the system. Each block will have separate liquid loops.

This has been a hell of a project to finish. I wish it could have gone together faster, but this is a design build project and there is always something that doesn't work as planned. Hope this helps to explain the beast.

Nice... so the plan is now to chill the liquid as per before, but then to dump it in a reservoir and chill it again via a heat exchanger? And I see that will require another compressor. Does that mean there's another condenser, etc. or do the two systems feed off each other somehow?

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Originally Posted by lloydsmart

Nice... so the plan is now to chill the liquid as per before, but then to dump it in a reservoir and chill it again via a heat exchanger? And I see that will require another compressor. Does that mean there's another condenser, etc. or do the two systems feed off each other somehow?

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Yes, your correct. The liquid will be chilled through the main plate heat exchanger and circulate through the waterblocks. Then the liquid will dump into a reservoir with a heat exchanger inside where it will be chilled again, before recirculating through the main heat exchanger. I will be using a separate condensing unit for the second stage of the chiller. When I'm finished with the build, it will have four condensing units cooling all the components.

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Originally Posted by Sweeper

Yes, your correct. The liquid will be chilled through the main plate heat exchanger and circulate through the waterblocks. Then the liquid will dump into a reservoir with a heat exchanger inside where it will be chilled again, before recirculating through the main heat exchanger. I will be using a separate condensing unit for the second stage of the chiller. When I'm finished with the build, it will have four condensing units cooling all the components.

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So will this fourth system further cool both the CPU and GPU loops? If so, how is that configured, with a Y connection or something? Ever thought about NB/SB/Mosfet cooling blocks or are you going to go stock with the ambient temperature of the inner chamber? How would airflow/fans then cool this stuff?

Thanks for the explanations - it really helps to fully appreciate the awesomeness. :)

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Originally Posted by liguhy

So will this fourth system further cool both the CPU and GPU loops? If so, how is that configured, with a Y connection or something? Ever thought about NB/SB/Mosfet cooling blocks or are you going to go stock with the ambient temperature of the inner chamber? How would airflow/fans then cool this stuff?

Thanks for the explanations - it really helps to fully appreciate the awesomeness. :)

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The CPU is not cooled with the liquid chiller; it will be cooled with phase exchange system. The chiller has a three outlet distribution manifold which will distribute liquid to two GPU's and NB/SB blocks only. The fourth condensing unit is to remove heat in the reservoir, before the liquid circulates back to the main heat exchanger. Basically a two stage chiller.

This just keeps getting better! Sheer awesomeness! 8-)

But where will this extra chilling system go? Is there room in that already humongous case?

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Originally Posted by lloydsmart

This just keeps getting better! Sheer awesomeness! 8-)

But where will this extra chilling system go? Is there room in that already humongous case?

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I'm still debating on separate condensing unit outside the case or breaking down the first stage chiller and make room the case. Before I start making changes to the chiller, I will test the reservoir to see if the extra fluid holds the heat load. If not, then the second stage chiller will be added to the build. I hope the extra fluid in the system will hold the heat load, because I really would hate to break down the chiller system.:shakes:

WOW,
Just read this whole thread from the front. Simply Amazing! Love the attention to detail you've done, now on with the photo's !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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wow i've been reading this thing for almost a year now!!!
and its been going on much longer than that. dude... i can't believe how patient you are.
:D+

Any progress? :)

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Originally Posted by lloydsmart

Any progress? :)

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I've made all the parts needed to make the changes to the chiller, but I have not started assembly. I've been very busy at work and kinda lost interest for a while. I will get back to work on this build, because I spent too much time and money to not complete the project.

Thanks for being patient and contining to follow this progress of the build.

Haha, wow, this is still going? Major kudos for persistence, I rather thought you'd given up.

So did you decide where to put the extra components? I think they'd look better inside the case, but I guess it's a question of what is possible with the size constraints?

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Originally Posted by lloydsmart

So did you decide where to put the extra components? I think they'd look better inside the case, but I guess it's a question of what is possible with the size constraints?

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I decided to mount the components in the case. I had to disassemble the cooling chamber components and condensing unit underneath to make room for the additional parts. This is one reason I don't have any updates, because the cooling chamber system was completely redesigned to be a two stage system. But, I will get it back together soon and I will share the progress as I get further along.