Great initial review and superb screen shots! Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
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Great initial review and superb screen shots! Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
Nice review SB ....
:clap:
Since I have both VGA and DVI attached I tried switching between them (on the fly, via the source button) to compare quality. VGA has a slight fuzz effect and DVI looks more "digital" but a lot clearer. Text is razor sharp in DVI.
Still getting used to the picture, coming from my CRT @ 85hz in VGA I was really used to a super smooth picture in Doom 3 and other games. Running D3 at only 1024x768 with 2xAA it produced no jagged edges whatsoever and a very smooth game that also ran very fast and mouse movement was instant. Now with this monitor even at @ 1680x1050 and 2xAA I have some slight jagginess but its very small. The game runs a little slower, at the point where it starts to bug your eyes when its still fast but just not quite "liquid" and your eyes pick it up in a bad way. Also the mouse lags slightly, you can get used to it but I would rather not. My hypothesis on what was happening is the fuzzy text I always got in windows was carrying over to games as well and it was producing a sort of "smoothing" effect that I never noticed. Now that I am on the LCD on a digital connection, I am seeing all the tiny minute details that I wasn't seeing before. I need more AA to compensate. I am contemplating picking up an x1950xt 256mb off of Newegg to beef up the graphics a bit.
Also considering trying a faster mouse but not sure yet. Tested in-game, the VGA tends to allow slightly faster mouse movement than DVI. I can assume this would only be helped further by a higher refresh rate, which I haven't tried yet.
WOOHOO! I hear you about the details. Now I can do horrible at the game because I am staring at the details lol. Like oh I didn't know that was under that grate or you know those nose hairs you couldn't see before on that character...ew. All the things I missed using the monitor which was "smooth" and probably faster as far as headshots go but, ohh the crisp clean detail. Idk if I can get higher than 60-75 I would have to lower from 1680 to 1280. I haven't wanted to hook up my monitor as extended/clone because this is primary and it makes the crt look fuzzy. I just haven't wished to turn it off. It is terribly addicting seeing text so clear. I feel it has turned me daft to even considering ways to make windows purdy rather than speedy.:rolleyes:
Question: Did you see where your driver installed??
My x1900xtx sees the monitor fine I just didn't find the driver to integrate in an silpstream cd, despite extracting & installing it.
What mouse are you using? Which one may you try?Am curious of the new logitech ergo wise. Havent tried switching back to vga from dvi with the mouse. Then I wondered of pci e freq & usb speed boost lol the possibilities.
I may just have to take mine back to get this 22 Gamer one. Just wish it said 4-2ms(if that matters). It wasn't available at the costco when I ordered. The idea of the extra usbs, HDMI, nice buttons *trust me the Sceptre 20.1" W DVI LCD ones are a bit clunky in front but for $130 less I guess I could keep it & wait till these improve...hmm.
DVI/VGA Dimensions: 18.75" W x 15.38" H x 7.1" D 1000:1
20.1" 16:10 wide WSXGA TFT LCD, HD Ready
433.44 mm x 270.90 mm
6.2M colors
High WSXGA+ 1680x1050/60Hz,
1280x720/60Hz, 1024x768/60Hz
Analog: 24-82 kHz (H), 50-75 Hz (V)
Digital: 31-80 kHz (H), 50-75 Hz (V)
160º (horizontal)
160º (vertical)
199.00
HD Ready
AV cable x20 comp..Convert DVI to component cable (video). Enable viewers to watch in HDTV mode.
Factory presetting mode: 41
DVI/VGA/HDMI Dimensions: W 21.9" x H 19.0" x D 4.5" 1200:1
22" 16:10 wide WSXGA+ TFT LCD
473.76 mm x 296.1 mm
16.7M colors
WSXGA+ 1680x1050/60Hz,
1280x720/60Hz, 1024x768/75Hz
Analog: 24-82 kHz (H), 50-75 Hz (V)
Digital: 31-80 kHz (H), 50-75 Hz (V)
170º (horizontal)
160º (vertical)
329.99
DVI, VGA, HDMI(HDCP, 2nd DVI)
Support HD1080i/1080p
Factory presetting mode: 40
Gray-To-Gray (GTG)
Anyways...Nice screens and great review...just in time! Keep us updated.Thank you.:woot:
http://www.behardware.com/articles/6...take-over.html
unusual review haven't had time to read completely-doesn't have sceptre but may be useful.
I hear you. I will never switch back. I am also positive that CRT has contributed to my eyesight going downhill over the years. With the fuzzy picture and the way CRT's constantly refresh, these LCDs have to be a lot easier on the eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by »X$«êdên
I simply downloaded the sceptre.inf from their website and put it in Windows/System. Then I found my monitor (listed as "Plug and Play", sort of a generic term) and updated the driver, selecting it from the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by »X$«êdên
I am using the MX1000 Laser mouse. I am going to do some research and find my ideal mouse. I have really loved this one though, its just that now with an LCD I feel pressed to go cutting edge and get the fastest one I can find. Even if it has to be corded its a tradeoff I can live with.Quote:
Originally Posted by »X$«êdên
It's worth the small price gap, trust me ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by »X$«êdên
No problem, I will try to keep this thread updated with info (post-review) type stuff as I use it more.Quote:
Originally Posted by »X$«êdên
Also sort of off topic but sort of on - does anyone know if installing the Logitech software will speed up the mouse any? Higher dpi/refresh maybe? Maybe just wishful thinking but i've never installed mouse software.
May go out tonight & get the 22 gamer & set it next to this one...HEHE but my 680 will get here at the same time & am contemplating another try at it...*no brain left*.
OT:
I have the mx518 and the older setpoint with the disc comes with the proper gui, the new generic range 310 setpoint has many gui & with windows hid gets glitchy "sometimes" due to me turning off services :). I have the 500 510s too.
I use the setpoint to force Speed/acceleration to setpoint vs. OS run which is faster in my opinion. Then I have the settings pretty high and change fov in my game which gives the feel of speed even more. Plus you can setup your games in the Advanced gaming settings section which I like & have custom buttons rather than the "change sensitivity" options. (not sure I care for the extra services running shown in task manager...)
Just peeked at the site again and they have a Battlefield edition lol
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/pr...ONTENTID=12898
But I am curious of the mx rev performance.
I tried the G5laser before & took it back and the recent ones are missing a few buttons I like to set to weapons! or zoom.
Is this in reference to mouse lag on LCD screens (cursor slightly behind hand movements)?Quote:
Originally Posted by »X$«êdên
Hello everyone. I think I'll finally get back with this
LCD Guide since I may be getting a 2407wfp soon :p:
But I need you guy's help: Go HERE
Thanks
-Turok
haha, yeah definetly going to forward my parents to this guide next time they ask me about lcds
I want to order a new LCD. Can you recomend me? Plz recomend one normal and one widescreen. (min 10 or 8ms, 16.7) I mostly will use this screen for internet, word, exel, Autocad, Visual Basic 2005, Games, Movies. price range ~400
he soul thanks for that review the lcd looks beatiful if you dont know what to do with that resolution imagine me wit 1920x1200 desktop is so damn big 200 icon doesnt feel like a lot xD
Recently obtained a benq FP241W 24" widescreen, very impressed with its color reproduction, good gaming experience, hardly any smearing in FPS. Excellent for watching movies, but with the usual TFT twinkling, those Microsoft HD-WMV trailers look stunning @ 1080P.... bring on blue-ray/HD-DVD. So glad I paid a bit extra and went for this screen over the dell 2407wfp, I just can't find a single fault with the benq's image quality.
http://www.users.on.net/~bugeyes/ind...ts/Desktop.jpg
Mind if I ask a few questions?Quote:
Originally Posted by bugeyes
Are you running native resolution with DVI?
What mouse and keyboard are you using? Looks like a G5 corded? What was your previous monitor, and do you notice any input lag?
last screen was a samsung 172X
yeah 1920 x 1200 over DVI and no input lag over dvi or d-sub,
logitech G5 and k-board is a cheap fellowes PS2
I think you should consider adding the Samsung 2ms 17" 731BF to the list, one of the best monitors I've ever seen.
I don't think anything comes close to the Dell 2407 for a 24" widescreen. I would like to buy a similar or better brand then the Dell but for the price...I don't think there is anything out there that can be it. Any opinions on this?
There having a boxing day special on it for $699 canadian.
My sister bought the dell 2407WFP 2 weeks before I bought the BenQ241W, as soon as she saw the difference in image quallity she sent her dell back for a refund and bought the benq! But she dose allot of photoshop and is quite picky, so the image quallity should be fine for you :)
Are you sure both monitors were calibrated correctly? I saw a side-by-side comparison on another site and they were not that different, minus all the extra inputs/options on the BenQ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbeard
She brought over her dell and used something call a spider? to set the color on both monitors. said the dell had a magenta color bias and banding or something? something about better dynamic range on the BenQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
I am assuming you mean this
http://www.colorvision.com/index_us.html
The Spyder Calibration system.
Sounds like she knows what she's doing. I plan on getting that monitor next year after some new products have pushed the price down.
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Originally Posted by Soulburner
OT-Great! article/Review on MICE! http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1265679 :woot:
Hi guys, anyone have any idea where to source a SCEPTRE x22wg in the UK please?
No but the Belinea 2225S1W 22" Widescreen looks good for the money heres a link http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MO-006-BE
Your right, that does look very attractive!
Thumbs up to you sir.