Sapphire are releasing Grouper, as far as I know they have a different design for the crossfire board.
This does not mean Halibut revision will not make it to market though, trust me ;)
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Sapphire are releasing Grouper, as far as I know they have a different design for the crossfire board.
This does not mean Halibut revision will not make it to market though, trust me ;)
hmm good thing i cant afford two video card, else i might have waited for halibut.
My money was rdy a long time ago...still waiting, heh. Btw, yeah that review was pretty bad from a XS point of view. U happen to know how much the board will be going for bigtoe? the Ultra-d is 135, if the grouper is more than 160, I'm afraid sapphire will be losing customers to dfi. I'll prob still buy it, heh, but price isn't a concern to me. With that being said, if it's over 180, I'll just wait till it's more reasonable, it always comes down...
Another review:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q3...0/index.x?pg=1
I know...Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Have you forgotten what forums you're posting on? :p:Quote:
Who really cares about top end videocards, not many people can afford them anyways.
Peace :toast:
Ok, so if I understand it right, the first batch of Groupers from sapphire REQUIRE the plastic cpu backstrap cuz of issues/mistakes by sapphire, thus preventing us from using XP90 and other coolers for the cpu? If that's the case, it would suck :( An enthuthiast board with so much oc options, yet forces the use to use stock heatsink = not cool. (pun intended). I'll wait for the second revision I guess, ATi 4 life, no nVidia for me :) Never have never will.
That TechReport review doesn't bode well for the gruper :( $179.00 and loses a lot of benchmarks to DFI, If OC'ing and HD audio are the only things really going for it....well, I dunno.
Pah, you guys in the US have it lucky, the board is preorder at Ocuk for £140.94 = $253.
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DAMN!!! 180 bones for a NON dual gfx ready board. I think I will pick up an Abit AN8 SLI for 110 bones to hold me over until the price drops by...I dunno 70 bucks at least?
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Originally Posted by IRQ Conflict
Well that test kinda sucks. That HAS to be the only TCCD that won't do more than 265 mhz 2.5-4-4..
And they use a half multi, not exactly the nicest thing to do when you obvisously don't know what you're doing ;)
Hahaha , i didn't mention about the half multi before u you said --> crap reviewQuote:
Originally Posted by SlackeR
It didn't look to bad really. Well unless you use a lot of USB stuff, that kinda turned me off.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=36063&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=36064&stc=1
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Originally Posted by Blue078
This came form the techreport so take it with a grain of salt. Out of all the sapphire reviews this one is so different from all the others. I don't trust them at all. Here the funny thing. They state that the DFI mobo was only stable up to 245HTT. :rolleyes:
How many out there with DFI Nforce 4 mobos are limited to 245HTT. :rolleyes:
It seems that techreport must be under the influence of THG :rolleyes:
245HTT, what a 'kin joke, even the bad ones do at least 285HTT :rolleyes:
Maybe they dont know how to lower the multi ;)
How about Anandtech ? They said the same thing about USB in a preview earlier this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnipingWaste
You guys have fun, I'll pass this round, I need my USB to work good, I do more with my system that just bench 3D :)
Its only relevent to how much you actually use USB and for what
If you are moving huge files around to USB drives then it may be an issue, I use my 256MB thumb drive every day but they are slow to begin with so its not really an issue for me or IMO most ppl :)
the thing is, it looks (technically) no better than the DFI, but it costs a hell of a lot more. If it's infinitely more reliable (as in all cold boot issues + mem stick randomly dieing (although that could just be due to the massive volts being pumped through them, open for debate)) then it might be worth the extra, but i doubt it.
Yep and that thumb drive just became even slower :)Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
But your right it will only matter to very very few people that use
USB NIC's
USB Cameras
USB DVD Burners
USB removable HDD's
USB Keyboards
USB Mice
USB sound devices
USB printers
Oh and don't forget those slow USB 2.0 thumb drives and micro drives
^keep in mind these are previews, and could potentially be fixed with a driver update...
usb cards are only like $5 too, even though pci slots are in high demand on this thing...
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Originally Posted by alpha0ne
Well obviously, they don't ;)
Or they dont know how to choose their multi. they really freak me out. how the hell is it possible for them to make it unstable at that low frequencies?
i mean, the 245 on the DFI might be on a ½ multi too, and THAT is bad. or they dont use the same cpu..
And actually they state that it is NOT the same mem, which means that it is probably not even the motherboard that's limiting them, but something they do VERY wrong to their TCCD or another part of the setup..
Plus, they have not tested anything near 4v vdimm. That i crucial, because we need to know how hot it gets, and if the power is clean and stable.
They did NOT test it as an Enthusiast-board.
Ridiculous test.
when it comes down to it guys, we can only get reliable info from here (most of the time) and ourselves.
See I know its XS and all but we guys are not as stupid as they think we are, right?? 179$, man that can buy a "Official" SLI board and that too a DLX or Pro version of it. We all have been waiting for ATI+Sapphire to unleash this but this is too much they are asking for non DUal GFx board. NO NO this a Wrong thing to do when NF4 variants have already gone cheaper. Was so bored waiting for this :banana::banana::banana::banana: to happen... got myself ABIT AN8 SLI + OCZ Plat Rev2 (Mostly TCC5) from US. Sapphire is in India but with this high rates, I think it will not see indian shore unless they have to show it off to crowd at some Gaming event. $125-135 is d price I would like to see when it hit d streets.
i'm sure the board will drop in price by the time its officially released - keep in mind the OC-UK is a pre-order...remember the first of those pre-orders for X2's? - RIDICULOUS high prices...so we'll see soon when the product finally hits - lets hope for that $130'ish price :)
dream on. They'll keep the price high as poss for as long as poss.
Yeah bandwith hogs like usb mice and keyboards :rolleyes: and lets not forget flash drives, usb sound cards and 100 mps NICs all really need full usb 2 speed :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue078
For USB HDDs and some DVD/CD Writers however, it really sucks.