Andre Yang - Lifetime Ban

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Originally Posted by Splave

http://videogum.com/img/thumbnails/photos/you_mad.jpg

im asking the person who wrote it if they knew how much :shrug: Isnt this thread a witch hunt and rumor mill?
Why does someone hand out scores on a whim? People just dont do that, there must be something in it for him weather monetary or not has yet to be seen.
Maybe andre wanted to borrow hiwas 7.2ghz ES gulftown? Idk

I understand he is teammate of yours so naturally you want to defend him but dont do the crime. Instead of picking over my single post why dont you add to the conversation with some defense. You come off as if you know something we dont. :shrug:

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I would bet it had nothing to do with money since Andre seems to have plenty, but I would bet he did it to put a few people in his pocket for a rainy day. What else would he have to gain for bringing the system to a screeching halt?

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Originally Posted by systemviper

thanks bro, i am very much in tune with what you are saying, i think that you need to be part of the new overclocking oversight board, of course it will be a temp spot till we get the real board voted in...

you express a lot of what i see other people wanting to say....plus i agree with a lot of it.... so i say we start this and never look back, see where it takes us! :shrug:

i am setting up the website right now...

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Originally Posted by Splave

http://videogum.com/img/thumbnails/photos/you_mad.jpg

im asking the person who wrote it if they knew how much :shrug: Isnt this thread a witch hunt and rumor mill?
Why does someone hand out scores on a whim? People just dont do that, there must be something in it for him weather monetary or not has yet to be seen.
Maybe andre wanted to borrow hiwas 7.2ghz ES gulftown? Idk

I understand he is teammate of yours so naturally you want to defend him but dont do the crime. Instead of picking over my single post why dont you add to the conversation with some defense. You come off as if you know something we dont. :shrug:

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Now i would like to ask the question a bit of a different way..
But i will also state from all my reading i never saw anyone post that there was $$$ involved, only that taking $$$$ in payment was against the rules, so i think that it's just the grape vine getting it's signals crossed, no money :shrug:

but this is what i am curious about.... but i am not part of the club so i don't know it;s inner workings...

but this is what i do know...

So... AndreYang gets a 1 year ban from hwbot and a lifetime ban from FM.
Not sure what the other 4 involved (Hiwa, Skinnee, eXtremetweaker.de and kj) are getting, presumably the same BUT...

they (Hiwa, Skinnee, eXtremetweaker.de and kj) seem to be involved by getting scores from Andre and posting them as their own,

now do all these guys know Andre personally ??? (Hiwa, Skinnee, eXtremetweaker.de and kj) From what i read, Hiwa is his teamate but are all these guys good friends,
if not who was the middle man that hooked them up with the "good stuff"


and another big teaser is...
h\ow does Andre get to be the "go to" guy for scores and how long has that lovely situation been going on...

these are the questions that i would like to know :shrug:

lifetime ban from FM also mean no more WorldRecords on hwbot from him as you need a valid orb link

i thought the lifetime ban was from XS

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Originally Posted by stangracin3

i thought the lifetime ban was from XS

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it's all here in the first post from the OP

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Originally Posted by FUGGER

Andre shared scores to alter and or ruin the MOA online contest. :shakes: Four of the results in three different countries were by the same person. Today three members came forward who held winning positions in the Lord of Overclocking competition admitting to using the scores produced by Andre.

This is not the first time reports of score sharing by Andre has been reported but it is the first time verified damaging to an online contest.

After discussion with legit score holders in the contest, they have decided your fate with 100% agreement.

Related articles:
http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...=129873&page=9

http://www.overclock.net/software-ne...ng-banned.html

http://hwbot.org/article/news/remova...m_loc_incident

After some time for the dust to settle, it appears that more people are involved that just these four. I applaud those who refrained from submitting.

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Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

andree is a sinner too .... but dont blame him right .... Oo

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you took me out of context....he/they have done wrong he/they have been swiftly dealt with, (kudos for that)

its the public crucifixion i was on about....there a lot of angry posts and fair enough i was just trying to take it down a notch. I love the OC community and this is shattering...(who can you trust now)


"blame the sin not the sinner" Gandhi...

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Originally Posted by packetNZ

Andre is one hell of an Overclocker

Crucifixion is worse than the sin...blame the sin not the sinner

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The sin wouldn't happen without the sinner, the sinner is the source of the sin, so therefore responsible for it, and therefore the one to blame.

FF means your banned

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Originally Posted by Sparky

The sin wouldn't happen without the sinner, the sinner is the source of the sin, so therefore responsible for it, and therefore the one to blame.

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fair call bro..im not justifying what happened at all

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Originally Posted by Planet

FF means your banned

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Fully :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed

whats happened has happened.. besides i love overclocking :D

Ok, this has gone on long enough. Thread locked. I think everything that's needed to be said has been said. This isn't so much of a discussion anymore as it is everyone expressing their outrage, which frankly is pretty useless, especially since it's the same sentiments over and over.

If anyone's mad that I'm locking the thread, feel free to pm me about it, but you'd better have something better to contribute than "omg, they're such scum, omg how horrible the state of things is, omg I would have never..."

I haven't been able to be around for a while due to some family issues, and am very sad to see and read on what's going on.

I hate to see and read these news about my long time firend Andre. I am also dissapointed in some of the responses that were made.

A few of us have discussed about reducing the "lifetime" ban to something different, but first we have to discuss this first with everyone involved.


Also we will start a new thread about the "ethics of overclocking" in the very near future, but we would prefer to discuss this in detail in the appropriate thread.