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09-29-2008, 05:01 PM
Toysoldier

So far so good. 704m Runs and benches fine on my Deluxe board. I'm going to see how high I can push my Q6600 on the FSB.
09-29-2008, 05:45 PM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Guys Asus sell different levels of motherboard at different prices. They will limit the OC on lower levels to push enthusiasts to buy the better boards, simple strategic play and i bet all the motherboard manufacturers do it. what pisses me off is the lower boards can be real bad with ram but end users never see that.

Keep in mind they make very low margins on the lower spec boards...they do NOT want enthusiasts buying them really...they want you buying ROG boards etc

Why do you think I busted out my BIOS modding tools? :p: I was all too well aware of Asus pulling crap like this, and tbh when I bought the P5Q Pro it was around £100 before postage, so not exactly cheap for a mobo. Asus especially have very poor comprehension of that lower-mid highend boards will net them the most money. I have only ever ONCE bought an uber board - Asus Crosshair, BUT, it just looked fancy. Didn't exactly have anything I hadn't seen on other, CHEAPER boards. Now with my skills applied to BIOS 703\4\7 (depending what mobo you own) the board I have at least has never clocked better. 1206MHz memory frequency rock stable, before nomatter what I modded any BIOS that had that pesky CPU Margin Enhancement I couldn't crack 1066 stable even though I could boot much higher frequencies (1200+)
09-29-2008, 05:52 PM
truehighroller

The 0704 was a little slower for me so , I figured ok maybe more speed then but, nope. I couldn't boot into 495 x 8 but, I could 490. I went back to 0803 I get 5ns better lats with it. Thank you though Ket :up: .
09-29-2008, 06:21 PM
Ket

Its just as I said somewhere in this thread, everything is subjective, what works for one may not work for another ;) I may find myself flashing up to 1307m again once I get a wolfie, but in the meantime I'll keep my 1200MHz+ mem frequency :D
09-29-2008, 06:42 PM
ThugsRook

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Guys Asus sell different levels of motherboard at different prices. They will limit the OC on lower levels to push enthusiasts to buy the better boards, simple strategic play and i bet all the motherboard manufacturers do it. what pisses me off is the lower boards can be real bad with ram but end users never see that.

Keep in mind they make very low margins on the lower spec boards...they do NOT want enthusiasts buying them really...they want you buying ROG boards etc

yes we know, thats why we hate Asus and love guys like Ket.

next youll hear how Asus is upset that someone is messin with their bios files and how these files are messin up ppls boards :ROTF:
09-30-2008, 03:37 AM
SPiTFiREgr

703m on my P5Q-PRO resulted no POST with OCZ2N1066SR1G. ASUS crappy memory support..
09-30-2008, 03:42 AM
Ket

I'll look at 901 beta for the Pro, if theres no CPU M-E, I'll mod that one up for people to try. Which mem slots did you put those SR1G sticks in?
09-30-2008, 04:31 AM
Mick64

Ket, Just wondering if you, or you no of someone, who can supply a modded BIOS for the Asus P5K Premium that would improve the memory frequency steps? Thanks...
09-30-2008, 05:23 AM
ghost_recon88

So which BIOS is currently the best for a P5Q Pro and a E7200?
09-30-2008, 05:25 AM
Ket

Try 1307m, if that doesn't quite work out try 703m.
09-30-2008, 05:32 AM
SPiTFiREgr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

I'll look at 901 beta for the Pro, if theres no CPU M-E, I'll mod that one up for people to try. Which mem slots did you put those SR1G sticks in?

Yellow ones. I've tried blacks in past to see if they'll let me overclock better but got the same results.
09-30-2008, 06:13 AM
mhw100

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick64

Ket, Just wondering if you, or you no of someone, who can supply a modded BIOS for the Asus P5K Premium that would improve the memory frequency steps? Thanks...

...or the P5K-E for that matter.
09-30-2008, 08:03 AM
Vazovskiiii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

I done these a little while back and haven't made new versions for the new betas, mainly because for the time being at least the new beta BIOS versions don't seem to bring any improvements.

What these BIOSes do:

The aim of these BIOS versions is to further enhance memory compatibility & OCing (on lower end P5Q models), add support for a few more CPUs (39, +8 on P5Q & Pro, +2 on other models).

Quite a lot of people have noted being able to get some rather impressive OC results on their Deluxe or Premium with my mBIOS versions too, which is why I'm doing them as well.

Note that you may need to do a CMOS reset after flashing to any of these mBIOSes

P5Q mBIOS 1004
P5Q Pro mBIOS 1104
P5Q-E mBIOS 1201
P5Q Deluxe mBIOS 1201
P5Q Premium mBIOS 1201

Special modded BIOSes for P5Q series using BIOS revs BEFORE asus added the problematic CPU Margin Enhancement.

...and for anyone that needs it;

you think that 703 is better than 1307 on my comp result of 1307 is more than 703:) this is old 0703 right? there still is problem with core temp on Q6600 i think that 1307 is better on my com:)
buy the way wen you are planing do the uber bios? you told that you are starting working on it :) so what this uber bios meens? what is uber bios? i'm sure that it will be realy good but can you tell me please what is uber bios and when you planing finish it? :)
thank you
you are the best :0
09-30-2008, 10:03 AM
TJK

Hey Ket I made this tinyurl to point people to this thread who ask about my BIOS. Maybe ya'd like to use it as well.

http://tinyurl.com/moddedp5q
09-30-2008, 12:40 PM
axy1985

Mmm... BIOS 704Mm is causing some odd issues were the BIOS does not retain settings... I'll look into it a tad further.
Additionally, no matter what OCed settings I use, it won't boot. Back to 1306 I guess.
09-30-2008, 12:44 PM
Kai Robinson

Any idea why the P5Q will NOT overclock with half dividers? I have the P5Q Deluxe and an E7200 - runs at 400x9 fine and even runs at 445x9 fine, but 9.5x400 is a no go - it posts but windows just instantly bluescreens. Put the divider to an integer value and all is well...

Edit: I'm using the 1306 Factory BIOS, currently.
09-30-2008, 01:03 PM
Vektor67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

I went back to the Premium memory table for its versatility. I was just testing out the M2F table, working on theory that it should be able to clock memory better.. turns out with later BIOS revisions the P5Q Premium memory table pisses all over the memory table from the M2F as it better supports, shall we say "our kind" of memory ;)

Sweet :D

Every BIOS is subjective based on a persons hardware. Its probably worth a whirl, and if not, hey you haven't lost anything, just revery back to 1402 :cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

The last Dlx BIOS to use a Premium memory table is 1306.

So just to be clear 1403 does or does not have the Premium memory table, the one which "pisses all over the M2F", I've been running your 1402 and like it for it's stability and mainly because I can finally use NVFlash. I take it 1403 also sees NTFS partitions? Oh and by "your kind of memory" I gather you are rferring to Cell Shock's or D9 modules. Lil ol me is just running some budget Gskill DDR2 1000 2x2GB, in your opinion would I be better served by the M2F or the P5Q Premium table? in other words 1402 or 1403 I'm itching to upgrade the bios why I don't know, it's a disease I guess. Whats really funny is that it's 99.9% certain that by the time I get a reply I will have updated to 1403. lol
09-30-2008, 01:34 PM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by axy1985

Mmm... BIOS 704Mm is causing some odd issues were the BIOS does not retain settings... I'll look into it a tad further.
Additionally, no matter what OCed settings I use, it won't boot. Back to 1306 I guess.

Thats very strange. By the looks f your setup your system may be one of the ones that prefer a BIOS with CPU M-E.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kai Robinson

Any idea why the P5Q will NOT overclock with half dividers? I have the P5Q Deluxe and an E7200 - runs at 400x9 fine and even runs at 445x9 fine, but 9.5x400 is a no go - it posts but windows just instantly bluescreens. Put the divider to an integer value and all is well...

Edit: I'm using the 1306 Factory BIOS, currently.

Theres a known issue with half multis with the P5Q series, Asus are aware of it, if they fix it or not is another matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vazovskiiii

you think that 703 is better than 1307 on my comp result of 1307 is more than 703:) this is old 0703 right? there still is problem with core temp on Q6600 i think that 1307 is better on my com:)
buy the way wen you are planing do the uber bios? you told that you are starting working on it :) so what this uber bios meens? what is uber bios? i'm sure that it will be realy good but can you tell me please what is uber bios and when you planing finish it? :)
thank you
you are the best :0

I'll release it when I get chance to finish it, at this time there is no ETA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vektor67

So just to be clear 1403 does or does not have the Premium memory table, the one which "pisses all over the M2F", I've been running your 1402 and like it for it's stability and mainly because I can finally use NVFlash. I take it 1403 also sees NTFS partitions? Oh and by "your kind of memory" I gather you are rferring to Cell Shock's or D9 modules. Lil ol me is just running some budget Gskill DDR2 1000 2x2GB, in your opinion would I be better served by the M2F or the P5Q Premium table? in other words 1402 or 1403 I'm itching to upgrade the bios why I don't know, it's a disease I guess. Whats really funny is that it's 99.9% certain that by the time I get a reply I will have updated to 1403. lol

If 1402 is working good for you and all is well, no real point it messing and "disturbing" your system ;)
09-30-2008, 02:11 PM
SPiTFiREgr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

Theres a known issue with half multis with the P5Q series, Asus are aware of it, if they fix it or not is another matter.

What? I'm using a half multi too! Is this confirmed?
09-30-2008, 02:12 PM
Ket

Its confirmed to the point Asus are aware of something odd going on :p:
09-30-2008, 02:21 PM
ThugsRook

my 7.5 multi works fine, but there is no 6.5 multi for me :shrug:

(e8200/p5q)
09-30-2008, 02:41 PM
SPiTFiREgr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

Its confirmed to the point Asus are aware of something odd going on :p:

There are so many odd things happening with the P5Q series :P Maybe the series is cursed :P

I'm also stable with 9.5 x 365 but nothing higher than 365...
09-30-2008, 03:00 PM
YMAA

Just flashed to Ket's modded 704 BIOS for the P5Q-Deluxe...very nice. My Redline 2GB sticks are currently Priming at 528MHz (DDR2-1056) at 2.1v. They needed at least 2.2v to get up there with any degree of stability. I like! :D

I really appreciate the work you're doing on these BIOSes. If you have a PayPal email address I'd be happy to toss you a small donation for your effort.
09-30-2008, 03:33 PM
Vektor67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

Thats very strange. By the looks f your setup your system may be one of the ones that prefer a BIOS with CPU M-E.

Theres a known issue with half multis with the P5Q series, Asus are aware of it, if they fix it or not is another matter.

I'll release it when I get chance to finish it, at this time there is no ETA.

If 1402 is working good for you and all is well, no real point it messing and "disturbing" your system ;)

Sage advice, but as predicted by the time I read it I had already flashed, and I'm doing well, whether it's the bios or that I just hit on some better settings but I've eeked another volt less 1.21 in Bios 1.2 actual and PL7 pull outs enabled vs 8 on 1402 Intelburntest stable. I actually booted into windows with my ram @ 1066 but my linpacks were off(didn't crash however) So I likee. Nothing earth shattering but a nice reasonable 20% and I get to keep my fans real quiet. I did test stable 500 FSBx6 earlier so I could get a whole lot more out of this I'm sure but... I'm happy for now. Thanks Ket
09-30-2008, 03:45 PM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by YMAA

Just flashed to Ket's modded 704 BIOS for the P5Q-Deluxe...very nice. My Redline 2GB sticks are currently Priming at 528MHz (DDR2-1056) at 2.1v. They needed at least 2.2v to get up there with any degree of stability. I like! :D

I really appreciate the work you're doing on these BIOSes. If you have a PayPal email address I'd be happy to toss you a small donation for your effort.

Sadly I don't have a paypal account anymore :( they once tried just taking £200 from my account, no explanations why or replies to my emails \ calls. I am looking into other methods similar to paypal though, only much more secure :)

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