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10-23-2008, 11:34 AM
Devious

Quote:

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

devious - yes cpu/pcie clock drive must be @ 1000mV

ok, ive just tried that and with your all easytune settings and it wont boot at 500x9. It boots at 500x8 just about but as usual it is very unstable and BSOD under any app.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

if you dont see ^ here it is 4.8ghz from systemviper on the ud3

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=436087

goodness gracious a long last.. *sigh* well thanks to systemviper my presence here has come to an end :)

may your oc always be merry

goodbye guys :)

Yes, i saw, at least now i know its not the motherboard. I think Systemviper is going to post his settings later but i really dont think it will make any difference with my particular chip. Three motherboards on and I think it has a FSB wall :( Shame as it needs so little vcore, but im sure il pass it on to someone who wants a low power 4ghz and no more :) and ill either try another or stick with my E8600.

Thanks for your help, but i know when im beaten with this one :doh:
10-23-2008, 01:57 PM
xguntherc

Nice work there Viper.

I think I'm simply getting stopped by my PSU.. and thats a shame.

Also Napalm. thank you much for all the info. I'll leave ya be for now. You just seem to have it all figured out there. thats all.. Thanks for all those screeny's.
and your right. I'm just going to try and use more fsb/vtt and less vcore. thats what I'll do. for now I'm at 1.35v vtt, but I'm going to give it 1.4 or more and see how it goes.

thanks!
10-24-2008, 12:07 AM
xguntherc

I can get a 2 week old.. slightly used PCP&C Silencer Quad 750w PSU for $100.00

I think I'll just do that. Sounds like a good deal. and I've heard they make some of the BEST PSU's around. this is also what Napalm suggested.
Just happened to go on sale from a friend on another forum yesterday. So I'll try and trade him for it. or I'll just buy it if I have to.

Does it have adjustable pots? do you know. or does it just run high anyways and will perform much better for me. Only thing I'm worried about is the small 80mm fan on the back. I don't want it to get loud. but it's called the silencer. so it shouldn't be to bad. I hope not at least!
10-24-2008, 05:55 AM
systemviper

I took the wrong sreenshot, i will boot later today and get the settings, but i warn you, it's high...

I think i set vcore at 1.6 and mch at 1.82, but with that sweet xig direct touch, and a little breeze it kept temps good.
10-25-2008, 09:41 PM
xguntherc

I bet it is High..

thats ok. Lets see it.

So to everyone thats been following this thread. or any of my questions and what not. I have "ONE" More. LOL

So basically I've sold a few things online, and some G11 keyboards and MX-518 Mice. (Have 3 of each left). and I now have an extra $100 in my paypal account. So my question is what should I do FIRST:

Should I get a new PSU. Probably the PCP&C 750w Silencer for $100 Shipped. OR Should I get some Water Cooling. like a Apogee GTZ ,or Fuzion v1,2 and a MCR220, 320 and some other things.
or would a water-cooling pump just be even more stress on my current PSU. and just be even worse.. I'm stuck between the two choices. lol

thanks. Input would be greatly appreciated.

edit* Also I got the Everest Ultimate edition. and I started it up to check some of my voltage settings and what not. To double check to see if HWMonitor was right or not. and everest shows my PSU 12v rail at 11.93.. not 7.36 like Monitor did.. lol. So that makes me feel a little better. But still not sure if thats a good enough PSU. I doubt it. Here's a screeny of me at 4.0 ghz with every big of info possible from everest. and all the voltages and what not.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5...estinforl4.jpg
This is where I am for now. Still workin on it
10-25-2008, 11:20 PM
carepolice

I bet that HWMONITOR reported your +12V all way wrong back then when you used it. Still mine HX520 keeps 12.10V on wich i find pretty nice, whitout modding ;)
10-25-2008, 11:26 PM
GAR

by default the cpu/pcie clock drive is at 700mv should i increase to 1000mv?, i cannot get 475 to be stable, which was stable on my MIIF, any pointers??? i am rock solid at 450fsb with 1.3v vtt, 1.3v mch
10-26-2008, 01:04 AM
xguntherc

carepolice.. see you have nothing more, or less in your case than me that would make it seem otherwise.. It just doesn't make sense.. I know some are better than otehrs. even when the same model though.
I have 1 HD. 6 case fans... one DVD Drive bay.. i don't know.. the 260. uses less power than your 4870.

Well the PCP&C 750o silencer Quad is over 200. but newegg has it for $144.99 and until the 29th has a 15% off so it's a total of $123.99 and has FREE shipping for 3 day. I'm pretty sure I'll do that. instead of paying $100 for a used one from a guy runnin SLI 280's. he's probably pushed that thing a lot. 20 bucks more to get a brand new one is worth it to me.

Unless anyone has any other PSU suggestions under $145.. yet will be good enough for SLI 260's let me know. otherwise I'll probably snag that. and then it will be more efficient and push my system better.

also GAR.. I don't know much about the clock drive. but I've seen the number 1000mv many times.. also 4.0 Ghz on the Q9450 is a big push... you just might need a lot of volts.. but your board should be able to handle that so I don't know. and who's the girl in ur avatar.. looks like a girl I know from Utah!
10-26-2008, 06:29 AM
davidoff619

xguntherc check you nv control panel under the part where it shows what you cpu, mobo ram and gpus are clock @ check theres not a rule starting with windows this might be holding you back it was me just found that out last night. this kept killing my vcore when playing game turned it off and everything is working how it should again i thought its was the vdroop mod but turns out this was holding me back. might be the case just check it.
10-27-2008, 12:03 AM
Jor3lBR

Gotta Love the Q9650

Hey Guys,

Finally finished testing my project 'flat black & blue' this weekend and got a chance to see the Q9650 in action, just 10 passes on Linpack before I start to burn-in the cpu:

Q9650
FPO/BATCH L820A930
VID 1.2125V

All options in Auto (exception for vtt and vnb):
http://i36.tinypic.com/vg7fhs.png

A view of my Project:
http://i35.tinypic.com/2j3i15v.jpg

project [Fl4tBl4ck.in.Blu3] worklog

Special thanks for NapalmV5 for answering all my questions!

After the burn-in I'll push this baby!
10-27-2008, 01:15 AM
HawaiianSupermn

:clap::clap:Sick rig Jorell, r u my futter?:rofl::ROTF:
10-27-2008, 06:06 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Hey Guys,

Finally finished testing my project 'flat black & blue' this weekend and got a chance to see the Q9650 in action, just 10 passes on Linpack before I start to burn-in the cpu:

Q9650
FPO/BATCH L820A930
VID 1.2125V

All options in Auto (exception for vtt and vnb):
http://i36.tinypic.com/vg7fhs.png

A view of my Project:
http://i35.tinypic.com/2j3i15v.jpg

project [Fl4tBl4ck.in.Blu3] worklog

Special thanks for NapalmV5 for answering all my questions!

After the burn-in I'll push this baby!

Really nice mate !! Congratz :up:
Regards
Sergio
10-27-2008, 06:11 PM
xguntherc

davidoff... Can you explain this a little better. In my NV Control Panel there isn't anything about the Mobo Ram and clocks.. so I'm not sure what your talking about.

explain more.. Also I've been lazy and have not updated my drivers so I'm currently on 177.92. I've yet to get to 178. or the 180's.. laybe what your talking about is only on those. Explain more please.
10-28-2008, 02:01 AM
davidoff619

it was a part in the nv dont know what it came with maybe the mb latest drivers or nv software tools but dont worry until you update it then you will need to check.
10-28-2008, 06:25 PM
xguntherc

No.. I don't even know what your talking about.. No where in the Nvidia control panel is there info about CPU, Mobo, RAM and clocks.. it's simply for graphics and settings and monitor settings.. So I'm not sure where to go and check what you said above.

Also I'm probably going to get the PCP&C 750w Silencer Quad today. It's on sale for $114.00 at newegg.com with 15% off.. then after that I get a $25.00 MIR. thats a great deal for that PSU.
I'm hoping it will help my system be more stable.

Meh. I just manned up and ordered it.. It will be here Friday.

Also your right napalm. I just did a calculator. and it recommended a 700w PSU. as before when i did it I didn't include the OC on GFX or CPU. so I think this will overall be much better, stable, and more powerful for me. I'll let you all know how it goes. and it's rated at 83% not 80.. thats even better.

Thanks for the idea Napalm! I'll owe you when. not if. but WHEN i hit 4.4 Ghz or more. :)
10-28-2008, 08:32 PM
nugzo

Q9650 is lookin better now with the right board. Gigabyte EP45 UD3P

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8002/4500ra2.jpg

Settings:

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10-28-2008, 09:01 PM
xguntherc

Nice work there..
10-28-2008, 09:09 PM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

Q9650 is lookin better now with the right board. Gigabyte EP45 UD3P

Good Job nugzo! I wish I had a P45 when I see those screens. Keep pushing you'll get Napalm :clap:

:up:
10-29-2008, 02:32 AM
xguntherc

Sweetness. so your vcore and vtt are both at 1.44.. have you been increasing those at about the same rate??
10-29-2008, 02:53 AM
WaterFlex

I love Q9650 running 500FSB.
10-29-2008, 02:54 AM
nugzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by xguntherc

Sweetness. so your vcore and vtt are both at 1.44.. have you been increasing those at about the same rate??

I'm up to 1.46 now. I have been increasing them together somewhat. Once i get the stability the way i want it, i'll back down whatever i can. Blend has been failing after about 45min.
10-29-2008, 07:15 AM
spoof

I think is a good place to ask, as far as Q9550 is pretty the same. What are the safe voltages for 24/7 under water (Fuzion v2)? Especially for the CPU PLL and FSB Termination voltage. For now, 465x8.5: 1.4125 vcore, 1.66v PLL, 1.36v FSBt and GTLREF 59x. I'm with P5E Deluxe.
10-29-2008, 07:37 AM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaterFlex

I love Q9650 running 500FSB.

Who needs a Nephalem with these beasts running @ 500?!
10-29-2008, 10:32 AM
xguntherc

Agree'd Jor.

and spoof.. the Q9550 is very similar to the Q9650.. just a .5 multi more basically. lol. and ALL are E0's. Anyways the recommended safe voltage is 1.3625v max for a 24/7 usage.

I'm not sure but I wouldn't think you'd need that much to get stable at 3.9 Ghz.. you should be able to do it under 1.4 volts I'd think. Keep tweaking those settings. Add more fsb/vtt maybe 1.4
10-30-2008, 04:12 AM
Devious

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

Q9650 is lookin better now with the right board. Gigabyte EP45 UD3P

Nice clock there.

Unfortunatley that board did nothing for my target of getting 4500Mhz with my Q9650. Same batch as yours. Wouldnt even post @ 500*9.

It may have been my vcore as i never pushed it quite that high, i didnt think it would need it. If i does need that much voltage I dont feel too bad as Im not sure i would have been happy running that 24/7,

Just landed a new QX9650 C1 for $250 which has eased my pain a little.

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