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09-06-2007, 11:34 AM
bokis

Oh well then we wait and see as usual, I am not a superPi freak, my main intrest is how well the preform in real life, fore instans in a htpc/mediapc
and offcourse the $$$$;)
09-06-2007, 11:47 AM
Fatal Error

Since when a single sPi result is enough to judge a whole CPU architecture?
Please grow up and w8 some serious real life benchies....
09-06-2007, 11:55 AM
bokis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatal Error

Since when a single sPi result is enough to judge a whole CPU architecture?
Please grow up and w8 some serious real life benchies....

Exacly:clap:
09-06-2007, 02:54 PM
informal

AMD Phenom to be available in small scale by October

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AMD Phenom to be available in small scale by October
From our friends in the industry, it is said that small quantities of Phenom processors should be available on sale as early as October.

There is no mentioning of the model and the price and exact availability date.
Looks like we will have to wait.

http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showth...threadid=67137

End of October for Phenom loving :) (at least some lucky dudes will be able to play with it)
09-06-2007, 03:01 PM
hawkeyefan

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Originally Posted by informal

http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showth...threadid=67137

End of October for Phenom loving :) (at least some lucky dudes will be able to play with it)

great news if it pans out, thanks informal. Finally something from the guys in green BEFORE we expected it:D
09-06-2007, 04:30 PM
misteroadster

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Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

Of course, even as much as I am rooting AMD for their next gen processors, there is no way they can pull that kind of time with 2Ghz because from what I have experience, AMD generally doesn't do so well with SuperPi. So something that beats a 4Ghz Core 2 Duo plus the performance drop of using an AMD processor for Super Pi boggles the mind.

Common sense + Logic these next couple of days please :)

I have an interresting question i think, do you own any of those babies or it's full photoshopped ?

If it's not a full photoshop, do you overclocked one and decreased the frequency before taking the pic ? :rolleyes:

If it's fully photoshoped picture, so congratz, great work :D

Thx ;)
09-06-2007, 06:48 PM
red

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Gary Key from AnandtechDepending upon the application, Barcelona clock for clock is equal to Clovertown or just a tad faster in some areas and in others it is 20%+ (heavy emphasis on "plus" until Monday, ) faster. I have to say that final silicon is looking really nice at this point, especially in memory sensitive applications where this processor shines, but core speeds need to come up in a hurry to compete with Tigerton in general server applications.

The memory bandwidth numbers we noticed are a little surprising considering the results in certain memory intensive applications. The latencies are much improved over the last core stepping we looked at as is pure throughput which makes you think twice about the relationship between bandwidth and performance in general from this CPU.

My personal opinion is that if AMD had hit their original launch targets and speeds, the server market would be incredibly competitive at this point with Tigerton being a much needed response to Barcelona. As it stands, AMD is going to have an uphill battle at this time. But this is all subjective thinking from a guy who tried to compare an engine to a CPU, but maybe the results on Monday will clarify some of the observations I was trying to convey without breaking the rules.

Translation, good clock for clock performance compared to Clover, bandwidth numbers aren't astounding, still needs to ramp up speed to compete.
09-06-2007, 07:03 PM
dave_graham

well, judging from what i've now experienced, i REALLY hate some of these pre-release bios' that only enable 1 physical CPU to be used...

(then again, it's fun seeing "Dual Core Opteron 1247 Core Count: 4" show up on the machine. :)

cheers,

dave
09-06-2007, 07:14 PM
informal

Haha,thanks for that input Dave :)
09-06-2007, 07:23 PM
dave_graham

if you only knew the absolutely insane struggles i've had this evening.....

i've got 3 different boards (S2915, L1N64, S3992), 3 different beta BIOS (1.02C, 05.06, 2.00c), and 2 x FX-70, 2 x 2210, 4 x 2347, 2 x 2344 HE and i'm having to hand load XP Pro SP2 on the 2210 (solo) because of kernel panics on the CPUs and mainboards.

cheers,

dave
09-06-2007, 07:24 PM
Start

Quote:

Originally Posted by misteroadster

I have an interresting question i think, do you own any of those babies or it's full photoshopped ?

If it's not a full photoshop, do you overclocked one and decreased the frequency before taking the pic ? :rolleyes:

If it's fully photoshoped picture, so congratz, great work :D

Thx ;)

Full photoshoped. If i had these chips in hand, I wouldn't be sleeping :D
09-06-2007, 07:31 PM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave_graham

if you only knew the absolutely insane struggles i've had this evening.....

i've got 3 different boards (S2915, L1N64, S3992), 3 different beta BIOS (1.02C, 05.06, 2.00c), and 2 x FX-70, 2 x 2210, 4 x 2347, 2 x 2344 HE and i'm having to hand load XP Pro SP2 on the 2210 (solo) because of kernel panics on the CPUs and mainboards.

cheers,

dave

Damn,that is frustrating.Any hope the BIOS support will be better after the official launch?

Thanks for sharing stuff here:up:
09-06-2007, 07:38 PM
dave_graham

so, here's the happy news....managed to load out XP Pro with the 2210s, swapped the 2347 in and....guess what i'm staring at now?

yup....that damn XP loading screen....

yippee..

yes, BIOS support should be better. word on the street is the S2915 is getting a board respin so....i'll definitely need to check one of those out.

EDIT: 3 dead boards so far.....from a variety of ailments. *sniff, sniff*
dave
09-07-2007, 09:50 AM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave_graham

so, here's the happy news....managed to load out XP Pro with the 2210s, swapped the 2347 in and....guess what i'm staring at now?

yup....that damn XP loading screen....

yippee..

yes, BIOS support should be better. word on the street is the S2915 is getting a board respin so....i'll definitely need to check one of those out.

EDIT: 3 dead boards so far.....from a variety of ailments. *sniff, sniff*
dave

Da-am! After the NDA, please tell us what killed them?
09-07-2007, 10:04 AM
informal

They are not "dead"...The boards aren't working the way they should.That's all.
09-07-2007, 01:15 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave_graham

so, here's the happy news....managed to load out XP Pro with the 2210s, swapped the 2347 in and....guess what i'm staring at now?

yup....that damn XP loading screen....

yippee..

Try 2k3 ;)
09-07-2007, 03:09 PM
JohannesRS

By now, I would guess that everybody is holding their breaths and waiting for info from the ones well known and that clearly stated to habe those beauties on hands...

(and also that the ones they have on hands are different from the ones coolalers have!)

Hopefully, the NDA will not also kill everybody asfixiated cause of holding their breaths for too long... ;)
09-08-2007, 12:01 AM
Proesterchen

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave_graham

if you only knew the absolutely insane struggles i've had this evening.....

Sounds like exactly the kind of shape you'd want to launch your new server processor in ... NOT. :clap:
09-08-2007, 06:43 AM
Kasparz

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Originally Posted by Ubermann

13s at Spi at 2ghz..yeah right =)
Some people need a reality check.

Whatever it would be, 2secs at 10Mhz or 2hours at 3Ghz, we want to see more realistic benchmarks. Superpi is nowhere near that. 3Ghz Conroe could do about 14secs, 3.5Ghz Windsor about 23secs. In most benchmarks they are about to equal. I know that there are few people who care about superpi, but lets be serious, until REAL DESKTOP PHENOM release all these faked screenshots are just waste of time.
09-08-2007, 08:26 AM
Ubermann

"who plays 3D MARK ?!?!"
"SuperPi is useless"
"Sandra is useless"

Are you sure you are on the right forum when saying this kind of stuff ?
This site is 99.9 % about benching and overclocking with the above apps.
Do you see many guys here benching games or other non bench apps?

You need to think about that..or maybe consider if there is any other forum that has a info that are more towards your requested games/apps or whatever.

(Not to you karparz but to many others)
09-08-2007, 08:54 AM
Start

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubermann

"who plays 3D MARK ?!?!"
"SuperPi is useless"
"Sandra is useless"

Are you sure you are on the right forum when saying this kind of stuff ?
This site is 99.9 % about benching and overclocking with the above apps.
Do you see many guys here benching games or other non bench apps?

You need to think about that..or maybe consider if there is any other forum that has a info that are more towards your requested games/apps or whatever.

(Not to you karparz but to many others)

For me, I want to see the Folding@Home SMP performance :D. If it does better than the current Intel Quad Cores, I'm in.
09-08-2007, 08:56 AM
Ubermann

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Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

For me, I want to see the Folding@Home SMP performance :D. If it does better than the current Intel Quad Cores, I'm in.

Thats a big part of this site also so thats not a problem.
But you know what i mean.

Its like im going to a dog forum and say i like cats better.
09-08-2007, 10:48 AM
JohannesRS

These ones looks nice: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=184594
09-08-2007, 11:29 AM
AgentGOD

That means the Barcelona should destroy the Clovertown in SuperPi (since it measures FP).

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