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Crap. I hate it when that happens :(
i leave em stock now..Quote:
Originally Posted by s0lid
i had the same thing happen after changing the tim on on north and southbridge sinks.. board worked fine before.
was prob me..but
yeah the NB on the Tyan gets nice'n'warm; so does the ram surprisingly! I have an Antec tri-speed 140mm fan covering CPU, NB, & RAM, set to hi-speed :up:
in desperation:
http://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Threa...e-motherboards
:D
I so hope someone helps! :(
haha, sammy cpus back down in price. :D
50c each. if only the other parts were so cheap still. id have to make myself a cluster lol.. (or 2$ each, depending how you look at it)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/50x-Intel-Xe...item20c3004d94
Ahh,well..Last time I checked when you bought 50 items for $100.00 that meant they were $2.00 each not 50 cents..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
Still a heck of a deal..I still have maybe 6 cpu's and 3 boards
... lol.. my math skills are strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
i have 4 cpus, 4 heatsinks, 2 backplates, enough ram..
and 1 board.. LOL
Stop over the house some night and I'll give you a board and hold those heat sinks..Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
None left in the known universe!:D
Dave what do you mean...the mobos have dried up? Damn that's a nice deal on the cpus....I paid $90 for 2 LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
the heatsinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAWS
mobos are more now too..
If I could still get a board for 10 bucks I'd build another sossaman rig for $30-$40 just for the heck of it :D
*edit* whoa I didn't realize that to get those chips for $2/ea I'd have to buy the whole 50 piece lot! never mind :lol2:
If I could get a mobo for $10 I'd pop in two meroms just to see what happens! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
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Originally Posted by Sparky
you know what this means.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
DAAAAVEEE. call them and set em straight. we need our 9.99 mobos back..
"Not Available to United Kingdom" HMPH!
although i do have 4 cpus spare ;) but i'm having to start thinking about what i actually want to do with my current sossy, poor thing hasn't even been turned on for months
i think im gona find a case for mine and put in closet for nas or somthing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
i used mine as a nas as well then i decided to get something smaller - i seem to have deleted the photo of it though :|Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
these sossaman chips have not had anything altered to allow them to run in a MP environment ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
they are just yonah chips with altered micro-code(?) so they simply appear as Xeons :up:
I msg'd the seller before, sometime ago, last year I think - check some posts back, I got him to post international for all here, I bought some myself as well! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
after your post, no, I'm not so sure! :p: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gongo
you've tried? RATS! KILL JOY! :p: :up:
Hey guys, I just found this thread about these xeon CPUs. I have a question... Can I use this CPU in a micro ATX Q35-Q45 chipset? Thanks
No. They only work in a very limited number of chipsets and three motherboards total. They're all listed in this thread.
thanks! well, it's kind of hard going back 2222 posts to find that thread! :D could you give me a link!
Intel SE7520BB2D2: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support...er/se7520bb2d2
Supermicro X6DLP-EG2: http://www.supermicro.com/products/m.../x6dlp-eg2.cfm
Supermicro X6DLP-4G2 (a variation of the above): http://www.supermicro.com/products/m.../x6dlp-4g2.cfm
Tyan Tiger i7520SD (S5365): http://www.tyan.com/archive/products...eri7520sd.html
The Intel board is the only one you will find at less than OMGWTF prices unless you're REALLY lucky or "know someone".
The caveat with the Intel board being that it requires a very specific heat sink, Intel part ABBHEATSINK, which is now officially rarer than rocking horse "shavings". No other heat sink will fit without extensive mucking about. The chip is a S479 but the HS mounts are the same spacing as S771 Xeons but with a unique stand-off height. The Tyan and SM boards are more friendly in that regard but WAY more expensive.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TYAN-S5365G3...item5d30310e5a
189obo, is still high but considering the abba heatsinks are hard to find and the intel board costs the better part of 60$ after shipping.
on a side note i feel so much nicer for giving away 2x of said heatsinks :D dispite the fact that i paid like 5$ shipped for em. ah the good ole days. :up:
Thanks for the response! I thought I can use these CPUs in some laptops or micro ATX boards such as P096C from Dell Studio Hybrid 140G. Well, I was too excited! lol I will go with a dell T7400 with 2 L5420. That's the cheapest system you can get.
Yep, definitely the cheapest system you can get
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=dell+t7400
You sure you're not trolling?
hehe... I'm trying to get a system that works good with Google SketchUp, Photoshop, Premiere, etc. I got a dell T7400 barebone for $150 on a offer I did on ebay. All I have to buy now is two L5420s, a Tesla C870 and 8Gb of FB RAM, and of course a Momentus XT. This system should be perfect for what I'm doing.
Well if you can get a pair of L5420s and the other required toys for less than the national debt that would be a pretty sweet rig.
Since I don't know you I should confirm that you know the Tesla card doesn't connect to a display and doesn't have any external connectors. It's a pure compute engine built on GPU tech not a graphics card. I mention that as you didn't list a graphics card in your line up.
well, haha... I know about the video output. For the monitor I'm using a low end quadro fx 1700 or 3500 (really cheap on ebay). I never owned a tesla card before, but I looked up at some videos online; I think it is much better then a geforce or even a quadro. I found one on ebay for $65.
Attachment 127109
From this nVidia document: http://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/43395/...99-001_v04.pdf
My monitors are old fashioned and require a connector of some kind.
Hej guys, a few days ago i ordered a Tyan Transport GX18 B5365GR18S2 1U Server Barebone from Ebay to do some ESXi fun with it,
has anyone tried to use DDR2-533 ECC Reg RAM on those Sossaman Board?
I`ve laying around 8 of those rams from my HP Server where i did an memory upgrade.
Greetings form austria^^
just give it a try! it won't kill it! :p: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by fr3@k
Yeah i will give it a try, but the barebone hasn`t arrived yet.
I tried with the 533's and had no luck but Sparky said he got 533's to work..Quote:
Originally Posted by fr3@k
For me the one I never had any issues with was the Kingston DDR2-400 ECC REG..
Ok i hope my 533`s will work, if not i `ll have to buy 400`s.
Another question about ESX 3.5 will it be possible to use the full 16GB of ram, because the sammys don`t support 64Bit, does ESX 3.5 have something like PAE?
This is where you have to talk to Gongo as he is the only one I know who ran 16 gig on the Intel board..Quote:
Originally Posted by fr3@k
I think he was using Linux but don't quote me..
ESX itself should have no trouble dealing with all 16GB, it's listed capacity is 256GB for both 32 and 64bit versions, but any guest OSs will still require PAE to access more than 4GB. Some newer 32bit Windows versions don't have PAE (eg Vista and 7) as the drivers were incompatible. MS just pushes the 64bit versions these days and includes 32bit versions of some applications like Internet Exploder. Unfortunately I don't think you can run a 64bit guest in a 32bit host architecture.Quote:
Originally Posted by fr3@k
More information here: http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vi3_35/esx...config_max.pdf (pdf download)
Ah ok that sounds good that the esx recognizes the full 16GB, the System is only for testing purpose so max. 4GB for one Windows VM is more then enough =)
Not bad, a single merom will run a 64 bit OS where the sossamans won't..Quote:
Originally Posted by karbonkid
My experience with the Sossaman is any DDR2-400 ECC REG I put in them worked perfectly (I had a few different brands from Micron to Hynix and all worked fine). The one lone set of 533 I had worked also (at 400 speeds) but I can't recall what brand they were.
Ok sounds good, i hope my HP Ram works and i get the dual sossaman barebone not the other one.
Today i got post from the austrian customs... i have to make a value declaration :D
I should turn mine on again at some point :<
+1+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
Not sure if anyone cares, but some guy seems to be offloading 150 SL8WT's on eBay for $1/CPU: http://www.ebay.com/itm/150x-Intel-X...#ht_1947wt_785
There is a part of me thats tempted but I'm going to pass.. I have 3 boards and a 1/2 dozen or more chips here now..BUT if you ever see any 2167's or 2300's give me a yell..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Petra
Yea, I still have that one 2167 sammy, it needs a twin..
interesting :D !Quote:
Originally Posted by Petra
I do however have 6 without a home atm
Too bad the boards aren't still 10 bucks or I'd buy a few of those just for the heck of it :p: Even though I have one just sitting here right now until I decide exactly what I want to do with it and where to put it.
same on that one! i wanted to get another 3 boards to make 4 machines and stack them ontop of each other or something for some kind of cheap 2ghz * 16core cluster of some kindQuote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
If someone wants to find a home for an intel board I could use 1. Mine has a bad ram slot . It will not run dual channel.
Done..PM me your info..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu523
Hi guy's wanna give a little update,
my TyanTransport GX18 Barebone arrived about one month ago but till now i had no time to play with it.
Yesterday i installed the two sossaman cpu's (2GHz) put in the memory (4x2GB Nanya PC2-3200 ECC REG + 4x 2GB Kingston PC2-3200 ECC REG)
installed ESX 3.5 and tested with an virtual Server 2k8 R2.
But then i recognised that only 8GB of ram is used/recognised by the motherboard,
i tried different ways of arranging the rams without no success :(
the four Nanya's and the Kingston Ram's alone work fine but together the system boot's but only 8GB recognised.
Are there some limitations for using 8 dimm's`because they are all double sided?
May somebody can help me, thanks in forward.
Lil picture of the setup ;)
http://www.abload.de/thumb/dsc_0088knsw0.jpg
are the RAM ICs the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by fr3@k
oh & I doubt you ran WS08R2 :p: isn't that a 64-bit only OS? ;)
No the IC's are not the same (Nanya vs. Elpida)
Sry meant 2k8 non R2^^
IMO, I think its the fact that the IC's are not the same that is causing the problem :(Quote:
Originally Posted by fr3@k
I have WS08 running on my sossaman too! :D :up:
That's bad, my other 2GB PC2-3200 ECC REG Ram's have Qimonda IC's so i will have to get 4 DIMM's with Nanya or Elpida IC's.
Is your WS2k08 running virtually ?
I will use my sossaman rig as testsystem,
For 64bit OS i've an ex Cisco Ironport(Dell Poweredge 860) with ESXi 5.0
no, not virtually sorry! :/Quote:
Originally Posted by fr3@k
mine will hopefully become my cloud server soon! :)
Ah ok, which software will you use for your cloud?
If you want something like dropbox take a look at "owncloud"
owncloud I have :D ;) :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by fr3@k
Slightly OT but yesterday a box arrived with 6 sammy systems..Boards,cpu's,HS and memory: $100.00 for it all..:D
Biggest issue I have is finding cheap EATX mid tower cases..It's like they don't exist anymore unless you want to spend big money:(
which mobo/heatsinks? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I chopped the HD bays out of an old ATX case for mine, then just mounted the HD in a 5.25" bay with an adapter bracket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
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Originally Posted by Movieman
whats a case? :D
you could just use some metal rods through the holes with nylon washers and some nuts to secure them in place and have a tower of sossys ;)
also - 6 systems for $100? Jealous!
Very Nice, we use OwnCloud in our company and we are very happy with it^^Quote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
6x Sossaman Systems for 100$? WTH!
Unfortunately for me, each crunching sammy I run adds at least $18/month to our power bill... so it has been a while since I've run any of my crunchers. I did manage to convince myself (and my wife :rolleyes: ) to give one of the sammys new life as a home multimedia (music/movies) server, fileserver (tinkering with OpenVPN as well, since I have people who need to be able to send me large files (e.g. 1080p video) to edit), and game server (I only have a Minecraft server running right now, but I'm considering experimenting with a Battlefield 1942 or Desert Combat server to see how many players the sammy can handle...since my connection (25Mbit/25Mbit) could easily handle a 64 player server).
Whee, photos:
http://www.petrastech.com/images/sam...er/topView.jpg
The wiring is a bit of a mess and, yeah, I built that silly duct thing to help cool the board and CPUs since I'm running the case fans (which look to be rebadged Yate Loon D12SL-12 fans) at 7V in an attempt to keep things somewhat quiet. That said, a system with six 120mm fans at 7V, two 80mm fans at 5V, one 40mm Sunon MagLev fan at 7V, and five hard drives isn't going to be all that quiet in the first place.
Here, you can see the boot drive mounted to the case crossbeam as well as the Dell PERC 5i/LSI MegaRAID 8480E RAID card that's connected to four 2TB Hitachi 7K3000 drives in RAID 5:
http://www.petrastech.com/images/sam.../hangDrive.jpg
The trouble is that the boot drive is kinda noisy given how it's attached, so I'm considering swapping it out for an SSD. Anyone have any experience with SSDs and these Baker Bay motherboards? It also doesn't help that the drive is painfully slow... but it was built for endurance, not speed so I can hardly fault it for that (Hitachi E7K100).
A couple photos of the silly duct...
http://www.petrastech.com/images/sammyServer/duct1.jpg
http://www.petrastech.com/images/sammyServer/duct2.jpg
And here it is slid into the "rack" that I put together out of a couple Ikea Lack tables:
http://www.petrastech.com/images/sam...r/rackedUp.jpg
From top to bottom: monitor and KVM (which I rarely use, since I can remote into everything anyway), gigabit ehternet switch, router (dual core Atom D525, 2GB RAM, Intel Pro1000 NICs, currently running Untangle... I might jump back to pfSense, though), Sammy server, and the UPS is on the floor. I still need to do some wire management :rolleyes:
I may sneak WCG onto it, but I'll have to do some testing (including power consumption change) first. At current load levels (not really more than about 5-10% CPU usage on the sammy most of the time), the "rack" of equipment (including a wall mounted wireless AP) with the monitor turned off pulls about 165W at the wall. Put another way, that's about $1/day... which is more than it costs to insure my car.
Once I can better offset the power costs, I'll start bringing everything back online again (including the i7s).
BWAH?!?! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
ok, I know this is back tracking a fair bit but.. when the handful of folks here with sossy's tried the bsel mod, did all of us try it on the Intel mobo? Or was there anyone who tried it with a diff mobo? :D
Just on the Intel MB that I'm aware off and it didn't work for me. I know what your thinking, "maybe on a different board" but no, chipsets are all the same between the Intel,tyan and SM boards unfortunately. I even tried a volt mod that Shamino sent me( God bless him! ) but it wouldn't work, wire from one point on the pll controller to the 3.3v point on the back of the board's 24 pin. Good thing is that when I pulled the wire the board still worked and still is 2 years later..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
( You should have seen my old eyes working thru 25 power magnification to do that mod)..:rofl:
Give me one please :D
Ok I know this is off-topic but I think the people in this thread should be able to help. I have an old HP server with four 2.8 GHz Xeon CPUs which are 32-bit. The machine came with 6 GB of RAM in it, and has capacity for 16 GB (but ECC Registered DDR200 is expensive so I won't be upgrading). Which version of Windows can access 6 GB of RAM AND work with these CPUs? I know it'll have to be a server OS as XP/Vista/7 only support up to two CPUs, and I know it'll have to be 32-bit...
I would give you one but the cost to ship it there is a killer. DDR2-400 ECC REG for the sossaman isn't that expensive from ebay last time I lookedQuote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
Sossaman is ONLY 32bit so no way to use more than 4 gig that I know of.
OOPS, just remembered, I have to send one down south..:sofa:
Are you suuuuure? :D :p: I'm so tempted to try on my Tyan :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I'd choose between Windows 7 32-bit or Windows Server 2008 32-bit, the latter is what I run. It is Vista based/related but without the sluggish-ness that Vista has! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
Windows Server 2003 32-bit would work as well, tho this is a rather old OS! It'd be very quick tho!
same chipset, results should be the same unfortunately..BTW: I am still looking for one of the 2167 sammys if anyone ever finds one..I still have the one, need a mate for it and goes without saying that if anyone finds any of the 2300's contact me IMMEDIATELY! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
Windows 7 won't work for me, I have four CPUs. The server was configured to have 6 GB RAM with 32-bit processors. the hard drives were wiped before it came to me so I don't know which OS was being used. All I know for sure is:
It was 32-bit
It supported more than 4 GB RAM
It was a server OS, as desktop OSs only support up to two CPUs
I know what you're thinking, 32-bit and 6 GB RAM don't gel. I'm thinking the same thing. But this server cost an absolute fortune back in its day and I don't see HP configuring it with more RAM than it can use for no reason. It DOES support both mirroring and hotswapping with RAM, but that's on a per memory card basis (it takes two cards with eight slots each) - mine has one card configured with 4x 1024 MB and 4x 512MB RAM.
@Movieman, the "give me one" was a joke cause they're so damn expensive to get down here (if you can get them at all).
I just started up this HP again, I think I'm going to pack it away. There's about an eight meter gap between my window and the neighbour's wall, and he just complained about the noise. MEH. Oh well, I have that SR-2 with dual Xeon E5645s coming... :D
Sell that old quad socket xeon for whatever you can get for it, not efficient in ANY way and 2- sossaman rigggs would out do it any day.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
The SR2 with E5645's is a very viable machine and that will do 20 times what that quad xeon will and take less elec while doing it.
The problem here is finding a buyer. Posting it around the country is out of the question, as it weighs in at about 40 KGs with the second 800w redundant hot-swappable PSU and it's huge (6.94 x 19 x 26.5 in [17.6 x 48.3 x 67.3 cm]). I think it might come fairly close to a Sossaman considering it has four HT-enabled 2.8 GHz processors :D
If I get US $100 for this it'll be a lot, a Sossaman down here will cost $300 for one if you can find it.
Yea, but unless your elec is free it is a pig..maybe 700-800W at load and a sammy is 90W max at 100% load and also the heat factor..Sammys are 35w cpu's, 34C at max load.. Hell, if they ran any cooler you could use them for Air conditioning!:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
I don't think it'll be that high on here, probably 400 to 500 watts tops. The CPUs are about 90w each, so that's 360w from them alone. Other than that, there are four 15,000 RPM 36.2 GB SCSI hard drives, 6 GB RAM and nine 120mm 7,500 RPM fans. Video is onboard, sound isn't an option at all, LAN is both onboard and another two ports via a PCI-X card. These things are built to run full load 24/7/365, I don't think they'd give "only" 800w PSUs if they required 700w :D
As for electricity, I don't pay a cent :wasntme:
But back to the OS issue, HP says these support up to 32 GB RAM with a 32-bit OS?
yeah a 32-bit OS with PAE, which is the three I mentioned before.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
Since desktop OS is a no-go, I'd go with server 08 - server 03 is too old imo :)
And just to clarify one thing - you can run server 2008 on Sammy, but not server 2008 R2 - R2 is 64 bit only.
I could probably do with getting rid of mine :(
:eek: but why? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
anyone in oz have any of those supermicro s771 backplates spare? I need 2 pronto! :( D_A? Emu? :(
I'd help if I could but I don't have any SM hardware at all. My Sammys are Intel through and through.
I dont use it and money is tight atmQuote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
:rolleyes: the backplates are made by SM.. not sure if you use/used them..Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
Ygpm.
sorry tiro Dont have any spare backplates. All in use, sorry mate.
Dave, I'd take one of those Sossaman setups if you're still looking for takers. I can provide it with an environment for 24/7 WCG crunching :up:
Surely it can't be too hard to make some backplates out of sheet metal and some nuts/bolts/etc or heck if the board is in an actual case just drill holes in the motherboard tray in the right spots and install some standoffs there.
4 x 1 GB PC2-3200R (with heatspreader) for 17 dollars shipped via USPS First Class con USA. Pm me interested.
http://imgur.com/3SVP9
jesus this thread reminds me... i need to pull mine out of the drawer..
and as for the backplate?>? am i missing somthing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21884
whats wrong? bet if you called and asked they could work cheaper shipping to stick that in an envelope.
For a while they weren't available, but I see they are again.
Finding the HS is still the issue..Now Tiro from AU did a setup that looked good a long time ago..Someone needs to did that out again..
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take too much to mod other sinks to fit. I'd experiment if I needed to, but I already have some proper sinks so I'm not going to spend the money to tinker around right now.
Will that work?
CM Hyper 101 on s771:
http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...7/IMAG0009.jpg
CM TX3 on s771:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...7/IMAG0121.jpg
[QUOTE=AXm77;5142741]Will that work?
CM Hyper 101 on s771:
http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...7/IMAG0009.jpg
:shocked: :eek: that is.... perfect! :yepp: :up: :cool:
edit: any details pics of mounting system? :)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...7/IMAG0008.jpg
That is only other picture of it I have.
Mounting is quite simple.
Two plates on sides.
I think, I still have it. Will check later.
its amazing what a BIOS update can do! :D
previously (I have the tyan mobo) on BIOS v1.00, the mobo would not post with a v.card in its PCIEx8 slot (I had modded it - cut the slot end out). Nor would it post with any more than 6 sticks of ram / 3GB total. I then flashed to BIOS v1.01; I now have a AMD HD5450 (passive) + 8x1GB running all nicely - sossaman is now my HTPC! :cool: I've thrown in a tv tuner, X-Fi soundcard, SSD (no HDDs) & the 3 case fans are running @ 5V, so it is very quiet! :up:
Can someone from the USA help me?
I found thos 19" Systems on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180925368413
But the seller only wants to ship to USA only, or i have to arrange pickup an shipping.
Maybe someone would help me?
Where do you live? I would think shipping something like that overseas would be really expensive.