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08-25-2008, 04:04 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by adya

zsamz i really cant understand how u got ur crucials to 1240mhz on 2.02v either u have the most amazing set of crucials or an amazing board. becuase i have 3 sets of double sided crucials and at 1170 mhz all of them need atleast 2.30v and with 4sticks i currently need 2.35v .
i have tweaked phase delay and gtls and other volts but if i even slightly lower my vdimm i loose stability on memory.
id say u probably have the best set of crucials ever made.

damn my worst pair kingston value needs 2.31v for 1200
1 of my sets degraded after doin 1330mhz n now need 2.05
my 2 other sets need 1.99v for 1200:D
eva2000 got some 2.0v 1200 sets too maybe he give ya 1 lol
08-25-2008, 05:13 AM
adya

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

damn my worst pair kingston value needs 2.31v for 1200
1 of my sets degraded after doin 1330mhz n now need 2.05
my 2 other sets need 1.99v for 1200:D
eva2000 got some 2.0v 1200 sets too maybe he give ya 1 lol

so how fast are mine gonna die at 2.35v?
08-25-2008, 05:26 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by adya

so how fast are mine gonna die at 2.35v?

well if you had a gigabut board i'd give ya 5 weeks:rofl:
but dfi vdmm power is so stable they last long
why you even using 2.35v 24/7 you crazy:p:
just do cas 4 @ 1000mhz 2.22v its actually about the same
i use my ram with lowest possible voltage to max latency
some sets i run cas 3 some cas 4 my ballistix are best cas5 1200+
if i pumped 2.35v in ballistix 8500 i be doin 1300mhz 24/7
08-25-2008, 02:45 PM
Gogeta

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

i hope u got a taiwan board if not watch nb voltages

D'oh, made in China. Thanks for the heads up. I was on 5/31 lt x48 and will be testing 7/14 lt x48 tonight after work. 471x8.5 @ 1.2v is no problem for my E3110, but my NB is hitting a wall at ~483MHz. I can't even get 8x500 stable enough for crude testing on 5/31. If I don't like my results I'll make use of your suggestion.
08-25-2008, 03:29 PM
zanzabar

my new x38 is having problems over 460, were my original was doing 545 so i think intel is putting out their junk stock now, for both
08-25-2008, 08:09 PM
Justintoxicated

Do the bios versions take into consideration the stepping of the CPU somehow? I'm wondering if there is a better bios than 602 that might be better at auto detecting correct GTL's since that appears to be what is holding me back.
08-25-2008, 08:21 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanzabar

my new x38 is having problems over 460, were my original was doing 545 so i think intel is putting out their junk stock now, for both

its gtls i had to change settings on second board
n second board was not as good
08-25-2008, 08:48 PM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

its gtls i had to change settings on second board
n second board was not as good

So you think my MB is bad now?
08-26-2008, 12:08 AM
zanzabar

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

its gtls i had to change settings on second board
n second board was not as good

i tried teh gtls went from 66-70% and nothing, my old one was 68-68.5 but that insta crashes my new one, im going to move to an x48 block then see if that helps when i tested it on my old one it jacked the L2 numbers way up

but unless this bios came bad the board is much worse and its ever a tiawan
08-26-2008, 03:55 AM
tranngocminh

I have DFI LT X48-T2R and update the lastest BIOS.
I use this mobo with Q9550 (C1), I can't boot when I set vCore = 1.45v +. My PC reboot, reboot and reboot.
But set 1.4v and + 107% (~ 1.5xv) everything is OK.
Help me.
Sorry my bad English.
08-26-2008, 07:23 AM
chunkylover77

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenarc

Anyone having standby issues with this mobo, I get that CF error everytime along with a black screen on resume.

How do you do this? I'm looking at the manual now and I don't see it. I've also looked in the bios and don't see anything there.

Edit: NVM I found it. Now to see if it works.
08-26-2008, 09:45 AM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanzabar

i tried teh gtls went from 66-70% and nothing, my old one was 68-68.5 but that insta crashes my new one, im going to move to an x48 block then see if that helps when i tested it on my old one it jacked the L2 numbers way up

but unless this bios came bad the board is much worse and its ever a tiawan

I have the cheap china board too :( Maybe it is the mB holding me back. What program is everyone using to pull the settings from the bios so I can display them automaticaly? Where are asus boards made?
08-26-2008, 03:07 PM
freaksavior

how do you know if it was made in china or Taiwan? Were does it say it?

im getting my Q9550 tomorrow, probably a c1
08-26-2008, 03:17 PM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

how do you know if it was made in china or Taiwan? Were does it say it?

im getting my Q9550 tomorrow, probably a c1

Mine had a nice little made in china sticker on the back of it.
08-26-2008, 04:01 PM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

I have the cheap china board too :( Maybe it is the mB holding me back. What program is everyone using to pull the settings from the bios so I can display them automaticaly? Where are asus boards made?

Every screenshot I have posted has been with a "Made in China" board. Regardless what the popular opinion may be the place of manufacture of this board has no bearing on the overclockability of it.

The method of displaying the BIOS settings automatically would be typing them out.
08-26-2008, 04:20 PM
Gogeta

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

make floppy with 603 x38 file n rename the 602 to 603 n replace the 603;)
i hope u got a taiwan board if not watch nb voltages

Ok, I'm doing something wrong. Using a USB drive with a floppy DOS image. I downloaded the x38 603 beta bios along with the x48 ut 602 beta bios, the zip archives, not the executables. I extracted the contents of the x38 603 archive to my USB drive and renamed the x48 ut 602 file to the exact name of the x38 603 file and replaced it on the USB drive. However, I'm still getting the same error when running "awdflash.exe x38ad603.bin" from DOS.

:confused2

Thanks in advance.
08-26-2008, 04:21 PM
x0vash0x

So, I have a problem that confuses me.

If I ratchet my FSB from 420 to 430 in minor increments, I can get 430 stable. However, if I increase the FSB beyond 430 and it's not stable, I can't use my stable settings at 430; the computer wont even boot.

Why in the world would a setting that is stable one minute, not be another? I've repeated this multiple times, and I'm thinking it's a BIOS issue?
08-26-2008, 04:26 PM
freaksavior

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

Mine had a nice little made in china sticker on the back of it.

so backside of the mobo.?

also, can you flash the LT bios to the ut? is there a difference in bios?
08-26-2008, 05:19 PM
CERO

u can "safely" flash to a UT BIOS from a LT board. On the safe side order from ebayer: biosdepot, some bios chip, the bios chip comes pre-flashed with whatever bios u like
08-26-2008, 05:23 PM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

so backside of the mobo.?

also, can you flash the LT bios to the ut? is there a difference in bios?

Yes you can thats is what i'm running, but it will not work from teh windows flash as it detects you have a different board. I think the difference in bios is that they don't make the 602 bios for the LT? I jsut used what was recommended here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogeta

Ok, I'm doing something wrong. Using a USB drive with a floppy DOS image. I downloaded the x38 603 beta bios along with the x48 ut 602 beta bios, the zip archives, not the executables. I extracted the contents of the x38 603 archive to my USB drive and renamed the x48 ut 602 file to the exact name of the x38 603 file and replaced it on the USB drive. However, I'm still getting the same error when running "awdflash.exe x38ad603.bin" from DOS.

:confused2

Thanks in advance.

Follow this Guide
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/usbBoot_us.htm

Quote:

Originally Posted by x0vash0x

So, I have a problem that confuses me.

If I ratchet my FSB from 420 to 430 in minor increments, I can get 430 stable. However, if I increase the FSB beyond 430 and it's not stable, I can't use my stable settings at 430; the computer wont even boot.

Why in the world would a setting that is stable one minute, not be another? I've repeated this multiple times, and I'm thinking it's a BIOS issue?

I'm not sure but I had an epox board that was like that before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praz

Every screenshot I have posted has been with a "Made in China" board. Regardless what the popular opinion may be the place of manufacture of this board has no bearing on the overclockability of it.

The method of displaying the BIOS settings automatically would be typing them out.

Maybe it was a mid week built board, and they just ran out of made in Taiwan stickers. I must have a monday for a friday board...Lots of people seem to have gone from over 500FSB to under 300FSB upon RMA. Whats up with that? Just a different bios or is there that much variety in intel X48 chips?
08-26-2008, 06:18 PM
Gogeta

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

Follow this Guide
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/usbBoot_us.htm

This is not the first DFI board I've owned, let alone the first with an Award BIOS. Making the USB bootable, accessing DOS and flashing is not the problem...its getting around what seems to be a checksum verification.
08-26-2008, 07:08 PM
freaksavior

ok, thanks m8.

will it help oc the Q9550?
08-26-2008, 08:12 PM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

ok, thanks m8.

will it help oc the Q9550?

I dont know, the stock bios didn't like my 45nm CPU I don't think. So maybe? Most people seem to have luck with newer cpus with this bios. But I will say it does not seem to get the GTL's right for my CPU.

As for the USb Flash, I dunno I followed that guide to a T and made the autoexec file. I didn't have to type anything from dos, it just went right in and flashed the bios as soon as I selected the drive. I used winflash to backup my old bios first of course. What size thumb drive are you using?
08-26-2008, 09:26 PM
adya

Quote:

Originally Posted by x0vash0x

So, I have a problem that confuses me.

If I ratchet my FSB from 420 to 430 in minor increments, I can get 430 stable. However, if I increase the FSB beyond 430 and it's not stable, I can't use my stable settings at 430; the computer wont even boot.

Why in the world would a setting that is stable one minute, not be another? I've repeated this multiple times, and I'm thinking it's a BIOS issue?

yeh i had the same thing with my settings. was stable occt 1hr ,saved it . then increased. failed . reset to stable settings only to find its not stable.
what i did notice was there was a difference in vcore and vnb. during occt test , the volts did seem to vary abit. i suspect that is one reason why.
the other thing is ,u have to look at ur stability testing method . i know 1hour or even 2 hrs stable can crash 2.15 hrs later. or can crash 15 min into testing.
now im using occt just for indication but ill use prime blend at end for better result
maybe like me , ur not really 100% stable at 430fsb.
thats was my experience anyway.
08-27-2008, 01:12 AM
adya

wow , ive done everything to try and reduce my vdimm to less than 2.30v just wont work.
i can reduce any other voltage and play with everything else to some extent without loosing stability , if i touch that 2.30v vdimm. i dies straight away.
stability is so damn dependant on that 2.3v vdimm. kind of :banana::banana::banana::banana:s me cause its 4x1gb of double sided crucials. there not easy to get and i dont want to kill them. but, at the same time i want to keep this clock setting.
not sure what i should do.
what if i gave vnb 1.7+ ? would that help lower vdimm? if it kills the board , i dont care i hate x48 now anyway.but i want my ram.
08-27-2008, 01:21 AM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by adya

wow , ive done everything to try and reduce my vdimm to less than 2.30v just wont work.
i can reduce any other voltage and play with everything else to some extent without loosing stability , if i touch that 2.30v vdimm. i dies straight away.
stability is so damn dependant on that 2.3v vdimm. kind of :banana::banana::banana::banana:s me cause its 4x1gb of double sided crucials. there not easy to get and i dont want to kill them. but, at the same time i want to keep this clock setting.
not sure what i should do.
what if i gave vnb 1.7+ ? would that help lower vdimm? if it kills the board , i dont care i hate x48 now anyway.but i want my ram.

I vote don't kill the ram, maybe just lower your clock to a safe level and deal with it...
08-27-2008, 01:37 AM
CERO

Quote:

Originally Posted by adya

wow , ive done everything to try and reduce my vdimm to less than 2.30v just wont work.
i can reduce any other voltage and play with everything else to some extent without loosing stability , if i touch that 2.30v vdimm. i dies straight away.
stability is so damn dependant on that 2.3v vdimm. kind of :banana::banana::banana::banana:s me cause its 4x1gb of double sided crucials. there not easy to get and i dont want to kill them. but, at the same time i want to keep this clock setting.
not sure what i should do.
what if i gave vnb 1.7+ ? would that help lower vdimm? if it kills the board , i dont care i hate x48 now anyway.but i want my ram.

If u dont feel comfortable at those volts, why not just lower your clock like others mentioned....
08-27-2008, 02:35 AM
x0vash0x

Quote:

Originally Posted by adya

yeh i had the same thing with my settings. was stable occt 1hr ,saved it . then increased. failed . reset to stable settings only to find its not stable.
what i did notice was there was a difference in vcore and vnb. during occt test , the volts did seem to vary abit. i suspect that is one reason why.
the other thing is ,u have to look at ur stability testing method . i know 1hour or even 2 hrs stable can crash 2.15 hrs later. or can crash 15 min into testing.
now im using occt just for indication but ill use prime blend at end for better result
maybe like me , ur not really 100% stable at 430fsb.
thats was my experience anyway.

The thing is though, I can increase the voltages on everything, VCore, PLL, VTT, NB, VDIMM and it wont boot at anything higher then 430. I seem to have a wall at 430, and nothing that I do will fix it.
08-27-2008, 03:19 AM
adya

Quote:

Originally Posted by x0vash0x

The thing is though, I can increase the voltages on everything, VCore, PLL, VTT, NB, VDIMM and it wont boot at anything higher then 430. I seem to have a wall at 430, and nothing that I do will fix it.

u know , i was using 1.4 and 1.5 vtt and couldnt get past 450fsb then i reduced it to 1.35 vtt and it stablized to 495fsb.
have u tried playing with vtt?
08-27-2008, 04:35 AM
zsamz_

man you guys have weird boards :rofl:
the big problem i think is gtl settings its like @ some voltage settings you need different % rate
with my 65nm i could goto 500fsb on auto but with my 45nm i cant use auto for 500fsb
higher the fsb i need lower gtl setting verry weird
08-27-2008, 07:18 PM
freaksavior

got it. sadly, a c1 :(

im about to drop it in.
08-28-2008, 01:15 AM
safan80

I'm still waiting for DFI to get 2 4870x2s working on this boards.. not to mention usb is unstable sometime with the 8/20 bios.
08-29-2008, 12:23 AM
tranngocminh

Quote:

Originally Posted by safan80

I'm still waiting for DFI to get 2 4870x2s working on this boards.. not to mention usb is unstable sometime with the 8/20 bios.

I have some BIOS from dfi.com.tw :D

Code:

Dear Sir, Update latest BIOS for X38/X48 series. Major Reasons of Change: Fixed system can't display when built ATI HD 4870 X2 CrossFire Edition. LT X38-T2R --> X38AD827.ZIP DK X38-T2R --> X38DD827.ZIP DK X38-T2RB --> X38DD827.ZIP UT X48-T2RS --> X48CD827.ZIP UT X48-T3RS --> X48BD827.ZIP LT X48-T2R --> X48AD827.ZIP DK X48-T2R --> X48DD827.ZIP DK X48-T2RSB Plus --> X48FD827.ZIP LT X48-T3R --> X48GD827.ZIP

Download

1: http://www.mediafire.com/?xh6uuuxhyya
or 2: http://www.fileflyer.com/view/ur7aeAn

GL&HF :up:

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...R_4870X2CF.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...R_4870X2CF.jpg
08-29-2008, 01:27 AM
merlin76

Thanks for sharing. :)

"X38AD827.zip" is missing. The file in the archive is named "utf-8__X38ADB28.zip" and that's an old beta BIOS.

You should remove the e-mail address to prevent spam.
08-29-2008, 08:31 AM
freaksavior

i got my Q9550 to 3.6 @ 1.19v that good?

also, how do you flash the UT bios to LT
08-29-2008, 08:50 AM
ACE76

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

i got my Q9550 to 3.6 @ 1.19v that good?

also, how do you flash the UT bios to LT

The UT and Lthe same except for the cooling...you can use the UT BIOS and flash it the same way you would flash the LT board...I prefer to use the Diamondflash method DFI offers. You could also use Winflash to do it in Windows if you want to do it that way. I have had no issues doing it either way.
08-29-2008, 11:48 AM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranngocminh

I have some BIOS from alex.????@dfi.com.tw :D

I have altered the original email address in the above quote. I was curious what kind of moron puts up a persons email address in an open forum.
08-29-2008, 01:54 PM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

got it. sadly, a c1 :(

im about to drop it in.

I'm making some progress on these C1's

I now have 3200MHZ OC ALL default voltages with just GTL changes.
Vtt 1.100
NB default
Mem Default
CPU Auto (running 1.2v)

Id post GTL's but that is no help, instead I'm going to try to find a range or at least some percentages. Then I will go for 3.6ghz slowly. It might be better to just buy a new MB where I can leave the GTL's on auto and then I only have to worry about voltages, aparently the DFI MB does a terrible job of setting GTL's on auto. Maybe it's just this 602 bios that is terrible. Perhaps what works great for people with C0 steppings is not the best bios for C1's.....But now I'm afraid to flash it and lose all progress....
08-29-2008, 02:20 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

I'm making some progress on these C1's

I now have 3200MHZ OC ALL default voltages with just GTL changes.
Vtt 1.100
NB default
Mem Default
CPU Auto (running 1.2v)

Id post GTL's but that is no help, instead I'm going to try to find a range or at least some percentages. Then I will go for 3.6ghz slowly. It might be better to just buy a new MB where I can leave the GTL's on auto and then I only have to worry about voltages, aparently the DFI MB does a terrible job of setting GTL's on auto. Maybe it's just this 602 bios that is terrible. Perhaps what works great for people with C0 steppings is not the best bios for C1's.....But now I'm afraid to flash it and lose all progress....

why not you can always flash it back
yes gtl settings are a pain till you find the right ones
just remember higher you go on fsb they change verry weird lol
08-29-2008, 02:29 PM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

why not you can always flash it back
yes gtl settings are a pain till you find the right ones
just remember higher you go on fsb they change verry weird lol

In what way do they change? I'm going for the % of Vtt. As long as I stick to a good working range of percentages I should be ok right? Or do you mean the percentages of vtt change as well? If that is the case I would be much better off buying a MB that likes C1 stepping CPUs. Or buying an older CPU for the DFI.
08-29-2008, 04:32 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

In what way do they change? I'm going for the % of Vtt. As long as I stick to a good working range of percentages I should be ok right? Or do you mean the percentages of vtt change as well? If that is the case I would be much better off buying a MB that likes C1 stepping CPUs. Or buying an older CPU for the DFI.

i myself have 4 775 boards so pickin the right one not hard
the dfi x38 is a fussy board
the higher fsb i go the lower gtl i need to set
mind you i dumped my x38 and took out my ut p35
if i were you i'd get a p5q series board if you dont find the right mix of gtl
08-29-2008, 05:29 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranngocminh

I have some BIOS from dfi.com.tw :D

Code:

Dear Sir, Update latest BIOS for X38/X48 series. Major Reasons of Change: Fixed system can't display when built ATI HD 4870 X2 CrossFire Edition. LT X38-T2R --> X38AD827.ZIP DK X38-T2R --> X38DD827.ZIP DK X38-T2RB --> X38DD827.ZIP UT X48-T2RS --> X48CD827.ZIP UT X48-T3RS --> X48BD827.ZIP LT X48-T2R --> X48AD827.ZIP DK X48-T2R --> X48DD827.ZIP DK X48-T2RSB Plus --> X48FD827.ZIP LT X48-T3R --> X48GD827.ZIP

Download

1: http://www.mediafire.com/?xh6uuuxhyya
or 2: http://www.fileflyer.com/view/ur7aeAn

GL&HF :up:

Thanks I will try this later

edit: someone tried the bios and it didn't work
http://www.csd.dficlub.org/forum/sho...&postcount=240

I haven't tried it yet though.
08-29-2008, 09:10 PM
freaksavior

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

I'm making some progress on these C1's

I now have 3200MHZ OC ALL default voltages with just GTL changes.
Vtt 1.100
NB default
Mem Default
CPU Auto (running 1.2v)

Id post GTL's but that is no help, instead I'm going to try to find a range or at least some percentages. Then I will go for 3.6ghz slowly. It might be better to just buy a new MB where I can leave the GTL's on auto and then I only have to worry about voltages, aparently the DFI MB does a terrible job of setting GTL's on auto. Maybe it's just this 602 bios that is terrible. Perhaps what works great for people with C0 steppings is not the best bios for C1's.....But now I'm afraid to flash it and lose all progress....

well like i said my Q9550 is running 3.57 @ 1.19v and 1.23 nb.

i havent had time to try for more yet.
08-29-2008, 10:59 PM
nfm

This mobo is very nice, but I still prefer P35 :D:

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1723/nicerl3.jpg

BIOS 8/20, 1.218v real voltage, VTT = 1.293, NB not sure, 1.405v in BIOS, GTL 83 83 83. I'm running 8GB of the new G.SKILL PowerChip at 556Mhz 5-5-5-18 @ 1.899v confirmed with DMM so far, 4:5 divider and 445FSB, tRD 6. I have lot of tweaking left, have to be finished by tomorrow with the build. Anybody has any tips for "Memory Models" for this kind of memory configuration? Thanks.
08-30-2008, 12:30 AM
adya

im about to buy one of these second hand -Swiftech MCW30 chipset block.
anyone know if it fits the x48t2r ? and does the nb heatsink come off fairly easy for installation?
08-30-2008, 12:41 AM
zanzabar

yah its all good i have one, u only have to cover the center 15-20mm^2
http://i35.tinypic.com/2ps2f03.jpg

and the push pins from teh stock sink come out easy
08-30-2008, 12:49 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfm

This mobo is very nice, but I still prefer P35 :D:

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1723/nicerl3.jpg

BIOS 8/20, 1.218v real voltage, VTT = 1.293, NB not sure, 1.405v in BIOS, GTL 83 83 83. I'm running 8GB of the new G.SKILL PowerChip at 556Mhz 5-5-5-18 @ 1.899v confirmed with DMM so far, 4:5 divider and 445FSB, tRD 6. I have lot of tweaking left, have to be finished by tomorrow with the build. Anybody has any tips for "Memory Models" for this kind of memory configuration? Thanks.

Nice chip you got there nfm :up:
08-30-2008, 01:59 AM
adya

thanks , i just got it for $30aud not a bad price i think. now i can run two 4870x2 without that damn heatspreader and fan in the way. lol
08-30-2008, 02:06 AM
nfm

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-N

Nice chip you got there nfm :up:

Thanks ;), quick blend, vDIMM 1.899v (same voltages as before) G.SKILL rated DDR1100:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6161/nice1zm8.jpg

I know it only few minutes, I will post BIOS shots tomorrow, it takes huge amount of patience to figure out right DS, DSS, Skew, Delays and other settings :). FYI, this is on 8/20 BIOS.
08-30-2008, 05:03 AM
adya

has anyone successfully flashed 820 with winflash? ive tried everything to flash with winflash . doesnt want to work. tried exe and ziped files. both dont work.
whats the trick?
dont want to use floppy . dont have one nor want one.
08-30-2008, 05:16 AM
eva2000

use awdflash ;)
08-30-2008, 05:28 AM
adya

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

use awdflash ;)

hahaha u seem to be everywhere tonight. lol
yeh ill give it a go ,never used it before and was in a hurry but seems like theres no way winflash will work.
thanks again. :D
08-30-2008, 06:06 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by adya

wow , ive done everything to try and reduce my vdimm to less than 2.30v just wont work.
i can reduce any other voltage and play with everything else to some extent without loosing stability , if i touch that 2.30v vdimm. i dies straight away.
stability is so damn dependant on that 2.3v vdimm. kind of :banana::banana::banana::banana:s me cause its 4x1gb of double sided crucials. there not easy to get and i dont want to kill them. but, at the same time i want to keep this clock setting.
not sure what i should do.
what if i gave vnb 1.7+ ? would that help lower vdimm? if it kills the board , i dont care i hate x48 now anyway.but i want my ram.

only the 333/800 strap helps ram use low voltage
i bet if you try those sticks on p35 they will need 2.34v@1200mhz
i think they would last about a year but ram is so cheap so .. lol
i lost so many sets @ 2.24V but that was on gigabut boards
dont go over 1.62v on nb its not needed
08-30-2008, 06:32 AM
adya

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

only the 333/800 strap helps ram use low voltage
i bet if you try those sticks on p35 they will need 2.34v@1200mhz
i think they would last about a year but ram is so cheap so .. lol
i lost so many sets @ 2.24V but that was on gigabut boards
dont go over 1.62v on nb its not needed

well that explains alot. im using 400/1066 strap. ill have to try 333/800 again.
yeh i dont want to kill these sticks so im trying again with new bios.
one strange thing i just noticed is when u save with cmos reloaded , it doesnt save ur fine delay settings. this sux becuase i wrote down my stable fine delay settings and saved with cmos reloaded.
but after reloading its didnt reload the stable fine delay settings? instead it kept the older unstable settings.
and u cant manually set it either , it has to be exact . i tried manually setting to similiar settings, but still no stability.
imo this is a problem becuase without stable fine delay u cant tweak ur ram at all.
08-30-2008, 08:03 AM
freaksavior

I got it to 3.614 on 1.232 volts.

need help getting more out of it.

nb is 1.26

fsb vtt is 1.1
08-30-2008, 09:04 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

I got it to 3.614 on 1.232 volts.

need help getting more out of it.

nb is 1.26

fsb vtt is 1.1

you want more pump more volts
you usin kiddy volts lol
1.6 on nb ti'll 500fsb
1.2vtt is safe
1.38v n cpu is doable too
08-30-2008, 01:59 PM
nfm

8GB G.SKILL F2-8800CL5D-4GBPI, vDIMM: 1.873 real, vNB 1.41, VTT 1.293, GTL Disabled:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3656/32mhc3.jpg

Weakest sticks closest to the CPU. My weakest stick needs +0.04 more compared the second weakest. I have some findings I would like to share, sorry for jpg artifacts:

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7...weakingzk9.jpg
08-30-2008, 09:27 PM
freaksavior

okay :) i'll try it
08-30-2008, 11:35 PM
tranngocminh

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

okay :) i'll try it

can you set 1.45v with this mobo and Q9550 C1?
when I up vcore to 1.45v my PC reboot, reboot and reboot...
08-31-2008, 06:45 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranngocminh

can you set 1.45v with this mobo and Q9550 C1?
when I up vcore to 1.45v my PC reboot, reboot and reboot...

cause you have to use special add% n leave cpu volt on default
09-01-2008, 04:53 AM
freaksavior

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranngocminh

can you set 1.45v with this mobo and Q9550 C1?
when I up vcore to 1.45v my PC reboot, reboot and reboot...

yeah, its at 1.47 now
09-01-2008, 11:35 AM
Vega

Have any one tryed the new beta bios 829? Any difference of fsb clock etc..?
09-01-2008, 02:44 PM
safan80

new beta bios 8.29

Quote:

1. Fixed system can't display when built ATI HD 4870 X2 Cross Fire Edition.
2. Update Intel new 45nm CPU micro code.

LT
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/X48AD829.zip

UT
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/X48CD829.zip
09-02-2008, 01:43 PM
freaksavior

So i got it to boot and into windows @ 3.9ghz. i had to use 1.47 volts. i dont think this chip will do 4. :(
09-02-2008, 01:58 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

So i got it to boot and into windows @ 3.9ghz. i had to use 1.47 volts. i dont think this chip will do 4. :(

play with gtl settings
try using 1.45v max
09-02-2008, 03:02 PM
freaksavior

have been.
09-02-2008, 07:30 PM
freaksavior

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=412549

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/412549.png
09-02-2008, 09:22 PM
Gogeta

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=412549

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/412549.png

Nice man, keep pushing it! Which bios? 8/29?
09-03-2008, 06:35 AM
freaksavior

no, its not the newest. Im going to update it.

i cant seem to get it past what the cpu-z validation is at. i have pushed some high volts i.e 1.5 and it would boot at 3.9 but wasnt stable into windows.... its sad.
09-03-2008, 07:19 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

no, its not the newest. Im going to update it.

i cant seem to get it past what the cpu-z validation is at. i have pushed some high volts i.e 1.5 and it would boot at 3.9 but wasnt stable into windows.... its sad.

freak you @ the fsb limit of cpu
more vtt might help but might not be safe
what bios you using
09-03-2008, 10:21 AM
Vega

I have to ask this again. To go further I have to play with GTL ref but I dont have any success with it so far.

My settings for moment:

430x10

Vcore: 1.34V
PLL: 1.51V
VTT: 1.25
NB: 1.47V

This means my GTL should be 110, 105, 85, right?
Some one of you use lower or higher values so it is confusing.
If the system seems to be unstable shall I bump up all three or just the core who faild? I hope you understand what I mean. I have to learn.
I have seen many of you run my batch 4.5GHz+ but my goal are 450x10 for 24/7 use. My temps are great so I am not afraid of using more voltage! :)
09-03-2008, 10:21 AM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

no, its not the newest. Im going to update it.

i cant seem to get it past what the cpu-z validation is at. i have pushed some high volts i.e 1.5 and it would boot at 3.9 but wasnt stable into windows.... its sad.

Are you leaving GTLs default? If so, what bios are you using.

My only stable overclock so far is 3200MHZ on my C1 Q9450 (400FSB)
All default voltages with only GTL tweaks. I'm using the 602 bios still. Without manualy setting the GTL I'm not stable even at 3200 mhz no matter how much voltage I pump. I'm starting to think the 602 bios sucks for C1 steppings?
09-03-2008, 10:24 AM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfm

8GB G.SKILL F2-8800CL5D-4GBPI, vDIMM: 1.873 real, vNB 1.41, VTT 1.293, GTL Disabled:

Weakest sticks closest to the CPU. My weakest stick needs +0.04 more compared the second weakest. I have some findings I would like to share, sorry for jpg artifacts:

How the hell did you pull this off? I have same memory, Same MB, similar liquid cooling....I cant get past 400FSB... What stepping is your CPU and what bios please (is it the same E0?) ? I can't boot up with any overclock with GTL's disabled. I'm almost 100% sure that is what is holding me back is a bios that will adjust the GTL's closer to where they need to be. I'm tempted to go buy a new CPU. Everyoen swore up and down how good intel was and crazy overclocks and I can't get mine to clock for :banana::banana::banana::banana:. My highest STABLE overclock is using stock volts! WTF!
09-03-2008, 10:38 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

How the hell did you pull this off? I have same memory, Same MB, similar liquid cooling....I cant get past 400FSB... What stepping is your CPU and what bios please (is it the same E0?) ? I can't boot up with any overclock with GTL's disabled. I'm almost 100% sure that is what is holding me back is a bios that will adjust the GTL's closer to where they need to be. I'm tempted to go buy a new CPU. Everyoen swore up and down how good intel was and crazy overclocks and I can't get mine to clock for :banana::banana::banana::banana:. My highest STABLE overclock is using stock volts! WTF!

he has a q9550;)
09-05-2008, 01:13 PM
me3850

nice 8/29 bios have broken my mobo...i see on diagnostic display "10" and stop at 10 error code...nice very nice -________-
and not only for me other peaple have same issues...

10 code error: Auto detec EEPROM Check Flash type and copy flash
write/erase routines to 0F000h segments
09-05-2008, 01:31 PM
karateo

Quote:

Originally Posted by me3850

nice 8/29 bios have broken my mobo...i see on diagnostic display "10" and stop at 10 error code...nice very nice -________-
and not only for me other peaple have same issues...

10 code error: Auto detec EEPROM Check Flash type and copy flash
write/erase routines to 0F000h segments

updated yesterday with no problems at all
09-05-2008, 01:33 PM
karateo

Does anyone run 8gb at 1066Mhz on the T2R (DDR2)?

Can you please post your settings?
09-05-2008, 01:57 PM
freaksavior

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

Are you leaving GTLs default? If so, what bios are you using.

My only stable overclock so far is 3200MHZ on my C1 Q9450 (400FSB)
All default voltages with only GTL tweaks. I'm using the 602 bios still. Without manualy setting the GTL I'm not stable even at 3200 mhz no matter how much voltage I pump. I'm starting to think the 602 bios sucks for C1 steppings?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

freak you @ the fsb limit of cpu
more vtt might help but might not be safe
what bios you using

i am using 729 i think it is. i was going to put the chip in a biosat i45 tomorrow and see if that helps, i got 4 gb of crucial ballistix reds on the way so im going to half rip apart my dads pc and mine and have lot of fun tomorrow.

if his board clocks higher then im stealing it.
09-05-2008, 02:25 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

i am using 729 i think it is. i was going to put the chip in a biosat i45 tomorrow and see if that helps, i got 4 gb of crucial ballistix reds on the way so im going to half rip apart my dads pc and mine and have lot of fun tomorrow.

if his board clocks higher then im stealing it.

i think it will lol
let us know
09-05-2008, 03:30 PM
Justintoxicated

I'm still not sure wether to sell the MB or the CPU or both...Time is not on my side right now and although I think this board has alot of potential it all comes down to how much time I want to spend tweeking the GTL's since the bios's auto is so far off from what my CPU needs.

Or just be satisfied with my overclock at all default voltages?

It seems my CPU is NOT Temp Limited, or Voltage Limited, but limited only by requiring strange GTL settings :(

I'd almost call it a bios issue. In fact it makes me wonder if other motherboards that are supposedly "better" just have better auto GTL settings. This is my theory anyways... So you can buy an inferior MB that has better/differt bios that may match your particular CPU's GTL requirements and get better overclocks. Damn you Intel for making this so complex for us overclockers! I hope AMD make a come back soon im tired of these shenan tactics!
09-05-2008, 03:57 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

I'm still not sure wether to sell the MB or the CPU or both...Time is not on my side right now and although I think this board has alot of potential it all comes down to how much time I want to spend tweeking the GTL's since the bios's auto is so far off from what my CPU needs.

Or just be satisfied with my overclock at all default voltages?

It seems my CPU is NOT Temp Limited, or Voltage Limited, but limited only by requiring strange GTL settings :(

I'd almost call it a bios issue. In fact it makes me wonder if other motherboards that are supposedly "better" just have better auto GTL settings. This is my theory anyways... So you can buy an inferior MB that has better/differt bios that may match your particular CPU's GTL requirements and get better overclocks. Damn you Intel for making this so complex for us overclockers! I hope AMD make a come back soon im tired of these shenan tactics!

i told you long ago to get a p5q-dx n see
its much easier to overclock a quad 45nm with it
and yes dfi way behind in bios with this board
09-05-2008, 04:05 PM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

i told you long ago to get a p5q-dx n see
its much easier to overclock a quad 45nm with it
and yes dfi way behind in bios with this board

How would I Change out the cooling on that board with all the heatpipes...
Seems to me the DFI should clock better under water and Asus with passive crap cooling. Or is this board really that crappy? I already bought a universal MCP NB cooler, so that another $50 loss I have to take using a board I can't change the cooler on. Is there a way to replace teh cooler on the Vregs? If so I could maybe buy that part or something I guess. Can't belive my clocks on wate rare so :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty with intel vs AMDs in the past ESP after all the hype. For the money and time reformatting and setting up all my crazy aps and servers it will cost me to change MB, I almost feel like just keeping what I have and waiting a few years until something better comes along (if it takes that long)...

Oh yea and has anyone got EVEREST running? It Shuts my PC off when I launch it :( I did find this thread so I will try later tongiht.
http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2319
and
http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.p...pic=3093&st=20

Shoudl I quit using everest anyone else using everest?
09-05-2008, 04:27 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by me3850

nice 8/29 bios have broken my mobo...i see on diagnostic display "10" and stop at 10 error code...nice very nice -________-
and not only for me other peaple have same issues...

10 code error: Auto detec EEPROM Check Flash type and copy flash
write/erase routines to 0F000h segments

the 7/25 bios did the same thing to me. I stopped use their batch file and flashed it manually and haven't had a problem since... OH DFI doesn't warranty beta bioses so my suggestion to you is buy a new bios chip and you can hot flash the old chip to get it working again and you'll have a backup bios chip. I got my replacement chip here
http://www.biosman.com/
09-05-2008, 04:27 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

How would I Change out the cooling on that board with all the heatpipes...
Seems to me the DFI should clock better under water and Asus with passive crap cooling. Or is this board really that crappy? I already bought a universal MCP NB cooler, so that another $50 loss I have to take using a board I can't change the cooler on. Is there a way to replace teh cooler on the Vregs? If so I could maybe buy that part or something I guess. Can't belive my clocks on wate rare so :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty with intel vs AMDs in the past ESP after all the hype. For the money and time reformatting and setting up all my crazy aps and servers it will cost me to change MB, I almost feel like just keeping what I have and waiting a few years until something better comes along (if it takes that long)...

so stick to 3.4-3.6 its way faster than anything amd has
i'm ok @ 4.335 1.28v for 24/7
gaming @ 4.6 1.38v on my ut p35:D
09-05-2008, 04:29 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by safan80

the 7/25 bios did the same thing to me. I stopped use their batch file and flashed it manually and haven't had a problem since... OH DFI doesn't warranty beta bioses so my suggestion to you is buy a new bios chip and you can hot flash the old chip to get it working again and you'll have a backup bios chip. I got my replacement chip here
http://www.biosman.com/

dont bother with biosman :rofl: 27$ for a chip
get chips from biosdepot on ebay its much cheaper lol 10$
09-05-2008, 04:46 PM
Sumanji

Sorry I'm going to be uber lazy and not read through all 92 pages of this thread :p:

I'm considering a build with a Q9550/9650 (if Core i7 is either too expensive or not amazing enough). Would this board be a nice stable model to get a Yorky up to 4GHz?

Layout is near perfect and I looooove DFI :D

Cheers,

Suman
09-05-2008, 04:47 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

dont bother with biosman :rofl: 27$ for a chip
get chips from biosdepot on ebay its much cheaper lol 10$

I've used them in the past for other motherboards and they've done a good job, so I have no problem buying from them.
09-05-2008, 06:22 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by safan80

I've used them in the past for other motherboards and they've done a good job, so I have no problem buying from them.

ive used biosdepot for 5+years
i guess you rather pay 27$ instead of 10$:ROTF:
09-05-2008, 07:44 PM
Nephilim

I finally got around to installing my LT x48-t2r and I get nothing, no fans, no power nothing. I do get the standby LED though! but the power button and power sw jumpers get no response. Tried diff CPU & RAM, bought new PSU, tried with/without vga card (4870 X2) but nothing won't give me any signs of life besides that standby LED. Tried insulating board from standoffs using antistatic bag (horizontal mounting) and still same thing. Also tried tightening/loosening mounts on cpu & nb to no avail... So annoying as no retailer in western australia carries these on the shelf so I have to order and wait til Monday :(
09-05-2008, 07:50 PM
BeastNotro

Clear CMOs and take Battery out .. turn PSU off ... unplug PSU .. do this all at sametime and then push the power button in a few times.... then put battery back in switch Cmos jumper back .. plug PSU back and see if that works.

Aslo just try one ramm stick for now and find out what slots are the first ones to fill first.

If no go.. try it out of the CASE.
09-05-2008, 08:09 PM
Nephilim

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeastNotro

Clear CMOs and take Battery out .. turn PSU off ... unplug PSU .. do this all at sametime and then push the power button in a few times.... then put battery back in switch Cmos jumper back .. plug PSU back and see if that works.

Aslo just try one ramm stick for now and find out what slots are the first ones to fill first.

If no go.. try it out of the CASE.

Thanks for the suggestions, but alas I tried all of that. My case isn't so much a case as a home-made benching station, with no metal except the standoffs, but I covered them just in case.
09-05-2008, 08:14 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nephilim

Thanks for the suggestions, but alas I tried all of that. My case isn't so much a case as a home-made benching station, with no metal except the standoffs, but I covered them just in case.

its a bit finniky with 45nm cpu
take cpu out n reseat
09-05-2008, 10:41 PM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

I'm still not sure wether to sell the MB or the CPU or both...Time is not on my side right now and although I think this board has alot of potential it all comes down to how much time I want to spend tweeking the GTL's since the bios's auto is so far off from what my CPU needs.

Or just be satisfied with my overclock at all default voltages?

It seems my CPU is NOT Temp Limited, or Voltage Limited, but limited only by requiring strange GTL settings :(

I'd almost call it a bios issue. In fact it makes me wonder if other motherboards that are supposedly "better" just have better auto GTL settings. This is my theory anyways... So you can buy an inferior MB that has better/differt bios that may match your particular CPU's GTL requirements and get better overclocks. Damn you Intel for making this so complex for us overclockers! I hope AMD make a come back soon im tired of these shenan tactics!

I have had some chips (admittedly all dual core) that need strange GTL settings to get them to run when they are new but later change to relatively normal GTL's as the CPU burns in. Now I'm not exactly saying go murder your chip but rather give it some physical. If I had your chip I would try giving it some voltage a bit of heat & some hard work for a good 1~2 weeks & see if it settles if all else has failed.

CN :)
09-06-2008, 12:36 AM
Nephilim

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

its a bit finniky with 45nm cpu
take cpu out n reseat

reseated many times and tried an E4300 as well, no dice. I think I found a broken trace near the chipset, hairline split. I'll have to try RMA.
09-06-2008, 02:16 AM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

dont bother with biosman :rofl: 27$ for a chip
get chips from biosdepot on ebay its much cheaper lol 10$

Since it usually gets here next business day because I live so close I have no problem with that. biosdepot is in Ca and stuff from there takes 2-3 days to get here that's extra down time I don't need.
09-06-2008, 07:43 AM
freaksavior

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumanji

Sorry I'm going to be uber lazy and not read through all 92 pages of this thread :p:

I'm considering a build with a Q9550/9650 (if Core i7 is either too expensive or not amazing enough). Would this board be a nice stable model to get a Yorky up to 4GHz?

Layout is near perfect and I looooove DFI :D

Cheers,

Suman

i couldn't get my 9550 to 4 the 9650 maybe. its a good board for sure.

If you just want highest oc, P45 may be better choice as they seem to yeild better oc's
09-06-2008, 10:08 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by safan80

Since it usually gets here next business day because I live so close I have no problem with that. biosdepot is in Ca and stuff from there takes 2-3 days to get here that's extra down time I don't need.

i ordered 2 chips from biosdepot a week after i got the board lol i dont like waitin
09-06-2008, 09:40 PM
adya

hey gys,
decided to move my crucials to use with my i45 board. so im looking for a 2x2gb kit of 1066+ ddr2 ram for my ltx48
any opinions on some proven sets that work well with this board? or x48 chipset

-found these-

http://www.mtechcomputers.com.au/pro...oducts_id=3651

opinions?
09-07-2008, 11:53 AM
Rattle

I just ordered one of these, hope it rocks
09-07-2008, 12:04 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by adya

hey gys,
decided to move my crucials to use with my i45 board. so im looking for a 2x2gb kit of 1066+ ddr2 ram for my ltx48
any opinions on some proven sets that work well with this board? or x48 chipset

-found these-

http://www.mtechcomputers.com.au/pro...oducts_id=3651

opinions?

get the mushkin in my sig, it is just as good as that ocz, and ocz is usually crap so i wouldnt buy it even if it was cheaper

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