ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

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Originally Posted by Severance

hey guys i need help. this is my first post so im not very experienced. I have read all 80+ pages and have tried everything but still cant get over 360fsb.
x6800
p5wdh mb
corsair 5400pro with those lights on them.I have already fried my new corsair8500c5 trying to get them to run at 1066. Can somebody just post a link of all bios settings i need to set to get over 360fsb please...would help me alot thanx

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I just wanted to ask how did the 8500 "fry" what gave you this indiator? Did you test the memory in another system before RMAing it? I have the feeling you RMA'd the memory and then someone told you to clear CMOS which means you sent back a perfectly good kit of memory.

This is not meant as an insult or accusation just a question. SPD is not ideal but unfortunately it may nbe the way the BIOS was written with Corsair in mind as the memory maker. Of course if you have PC2-5400 you can't really overclock when you consider your working off a 1066FSB (or you have to start with 266FSB not 200FSB) so the Memory Divisor must be 266FSB x 2.5 = 675 (665 actually) so this would be a motherboard which would have benefitted from divisors displayed as they are instead of displaying the memory speed, such as 400, 533, 567, 800 etc.

Now if you take 266 x 4 = 1066 x 8 = 8500 (PC2-8500) now we need someone with more timne better at math then me to figure out where many end-users are making mistakes with their settings? I know I can't run my system at 425FSB or even 400FSB without dropping the memory divisor to 675MHz.

ok nowu got my attention lol. luckily i have not sent them back yet. Heres how it happend. I installed a water cooling kit. went to boot up it wouldent. I think then we reset cmos. still wouldent boot. Then we tried other ram and it booted. tried the corsair again it would boot only with 1 stick but not the other. left the 1 stick at the comp shop came home booted using the 1 stick but it would hang trying to get into hardware monitor. took it out put in pair of corsair 5400 sticks and all is good. So what did i do? jump the gun?

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Originally Posted by Liquid3D

I just wanted to ask how did the 8500 "fry" whayt gave you this indocator? Did you test the memory in another system before RMAing it? I have the feeling you RMA'd the memory and then someone told you to clear CMOS which means you sent back a perfectly good kit of memory.

This is not meant as an insuklt or accusation just a question. SPD is not ideal but unfortunately it may nbe the way the BIOS was written with Corsair in mind as the memory maker. Of course if you have PC2-5400 you can't really overclock when you consider your working off a 1066FSB (or you have to start with 266FSB not 200FSB) so the Memory Divisor must be 266FSB x 2.5 = 675 (665 actually) so this would be a motherboard which would have benefitted from divisors displayed as they are instead of displaying the memory speed, such as 400, 533, 567, 800 etc.

Now if you take 266 x 4 = 1066 x 8 = 8500 (PC2-8500) now we need someone with more timne better at math then me to figure out where many end-users are making mistakes with their settings? I know I can't run my system at 425FSB or even 400FSB without dropping the memory divisor to 675MHz.

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Is it me or does it seem many people have issue with Corsair Ram and this board. I have noticed this more than a few times while reading on the Asus P5w, in various threads.

About two weeks ago another guy had one dead stick and went through power supplies etc until he checked the RAM- found the Corsair was the culprit 1 dead stick, same error you reported first post Sererance overvolting vdimm error bla-bla-bla.

I run 1:1 400 x 9 4-4-4 12-4 no issues with G.skill, but you have a E6800 right?
sparx
Edit: here is that guy's post I mention in the text above, back about 10 pages right here on this very thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...110193&page=76 (see thickfog)

x6800....

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Originally Posted by Sparx

Is it me or does it seem many people have issue with Corsair Ram and this board. I have noticed this more than a few times while reading on the Asus P5w, in various threads.

About two weeks ago another guy had one dead stick and went through power supplies etc until he checked the RAM- found the Corsair was the culprit 1 dead stick, same error you reported first post Sererance overvolting vdimm error bla-bla-bla.

I run 1:1 400 x 9 4-4-4 12-4 no issues with G.skill, but you have a E6800 right?
sparx
Edit: here is that guy's post I mention in the text above, back about 10 pages right here on this very thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...110193&page=76 (see thickfog)

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for your guys information, i never had problem setting the mem manually and i manage to hit 430 fsb with both my E6400 week 28 and my E6600 week 29.

my ram is Mushkin EM2 DDR2 800 with green heatspreader. the rated timing is sux, 800mhz @ 5-5-5-12 but this ram is great as i manage to oc stable until 1088mhz :D

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Originally Posted by Severance

x6800....

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Ok so you are at 2.9 stock.
Corsair RAM seems to have issues.

it does seem that way. just tried lower multiplier lower ram ratio..cpu running at 2.3 ram at 533 fsb at 370. shes a no go. By running ram that low have i counted out the mem timing theory at 370? or am i just an idiot?

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Originally Posted by Sparx

Ok so you are at 2.9 stock.
Corsair RAM seems to have issues.

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to tellu guys the truth..i dont know why im trying to run fsb so high anyways cus anything over 340fsb and my crossfire dies anyways. I need to uninstall drivers reinstall them and sometimes it works sometimes not. when it does work if i go above 340fsb crossfire dies again. what i mean by die is...in games there are artifacts when i disable 1 vid card all is good but with both running its messed up

running my e6600 at 3.0ghz, rams at 1ghz - spd. g-skill 2x1gb "hz" ram

Just was wondering... my timings according to cpu-z are:

frequency: 500.2mhz
fsb:dram : 2:3
CAS# Latency: 5.0clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay Latency: 6 clocks
RAS# Precharge: 6 clocks
Cycle Time (Tras) 18 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (Trc) 21 clocks

System is stable, bf2 works fine for couple hours as does games like fsx, havent checked orthos but i imagine it is...

Would it be advisible to make the timings tighter? Or would there be no real performance boost from it, and also if if would be advisible to make the timings tighter what would the bios settings be?

Thanks.

Timmaah
You should be able to run 4-4-4-12-4 with that RAM. I am using 2.05 volts on my ram btw.

Try it and test with Orthos it will act up within 3 hours if there is an issue.
Also run 3d05 and check the performace with your settings then run it again to test with new settings and compare.
Sandra (test program) also can be used to test performance.

Using a CD with only the ROM file loaded did not work for that ezflash thing under tools in the BIOS, I will try putting onto CD what it wants me to put onto a floppy. Unless it's one of those things where you give the program your floppy drive letter and it makes the floppy for you. :(

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Originally Posted by Sparx

Timmaah
You should be able to run 4-4-4-12-4 with that RAM. I am using 2.05 volts on my ram btw.

Try it and test with Orthos it will act up within 3 hours if there is an issue.
Also run 3d05 and check the performace with your settings then run it again to test with new settings and compare.
Sandra (test program) also can be used to test performance.

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Just curious Sparx why do you suggest 3d05 to check for stability and not 06 or another program??

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Originally Posted by Thasp

Using a CD with only the ROM file loaded did not work for that ezflash thing under tools in the BIOS, I will try putting onto CD what it wants me to put onto a floppy. Unless it's one of those things where you give the program your floppy drive letter and it makes the floppy for you. :(

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when i flashed it with the cd method on the NF4 board, i think i had to put the flash tool file with the bios, and select that drive as priority boot in order to run it. You didnt try the usb mp3 player flash method? Someone said it works for them, just do a manual cmos reset when your done.

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Originally Posted by Severance

to tellu guys the truth..i dont know why im trying to run fsb so high anyways cus anything over 340fsb and my crossfire dies anyways. I need to uninstall drivers reinstall them and sometimes it works sometimes not. when it does work if i go above 340fsb crossfire dies again. what i mean by die is...in games there are artifacts when i disable 1 vid card all is good but with both running its messed up

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What? I never had this problem back when I had X1900 CF Setup and my current one. Also, I currently have the mem in my (Corsair) working fine.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=139583

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Originally Posted by Severance

to tellu guys the truth..i dont know why im trying to run fsb so high anyways cus anything over 340fsb and my crossfire dies anyways. I need to uninstall drivers reinstall them and sometimes it works sometimes not. when it does work if i go above 340fsb crossfire dies again. what i mean by die is...in games there are artifacts when i disable 1 vid card all is good but with both running its messed up

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hard set the pci-e frequency to 100mhz and pci-e sync to 33.3mhz.. that should help. after doing that my CF setup was good to go up to 400mhz on the fsb.

I believe you should always reset bios after flashing..
Right after flashing on reboot, load setup defaults, then when it reboots, go back in bios then change what you need to..:)

Hi,

My Rig :
E6700, Asus P5W DH Deluxe, Corsair 2GB XMS2-8500C5, Tuniq Tower

Having some OC problems with these settings with BIOS 1506 :

CPU Frequency: 350MHz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 700MHz (1:1)
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.20V
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.4V
FSB Termination: 1.4
MCH Chipset Voltage: Auto
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Digital Home Mode: Disabled

Under Advanced Chipset:

DRAM Timings by SPD: Manual (per RAM specs 5-5-5-15)
DRAM ECC Mode: Disabled
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttling Threshold: Auto
*All PEG Settings AUTO*

Under advanced CPU settings:

Microcode Updation: Enabled
Everything else: Disabled

I have every device Disabled that I don't need eg. RAID controller, Serial Port etc etc

Problem is that with these setting I run Prime95 or Orthos and it immedietely gives me errors.

Any idea's what mistakes I've made ?

Cheers

raise your Vcore to say 1.475 ( then any voltage higher that temps allow you as you overclock higher, keep an eye on temperatures)
MCH to 1.65
ICH to 2.0
dram throttling-disabled

make sure all the qfan and anything to do with fan settings are disabled also

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Originally Posted by Potato Salad

Just curious Sparx why do you suggest 3d05 to check for stability and not 06 or another program??

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3D06 is great too, I have been lazy not downloading 3d06. :D

Jaap74set Pcie to 105

sparx

well i used memset and set it to 5-5-5-12 expecting the pc to freeze, i cant find the trc value though in memset 3.0. Pc didnt freeze so im pleasantly surprised, even though the tras is 26 and not 10 :|

When my corsair c5 was alive i was able to get it to 510mhz stable with 4449 timings but not 1066 55515 as for the crossfire... dont know why im having problems getting over 340fsb. im using asus 1950s.

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Originally Posted by nicepun

What? I never had this problem back when I had X1900 CF Setup and my current one. Also, I currently have the mem in my (Corsair) working fine.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=139583

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Hey guys... upgraded to the new 1602 BIOS and now can't increase the multiplier of my x6800 to 13. Anyone else notice this?

In 1503 I have the multiplier=13 for 3.46ghz, ram at DDR2-1067 for PC-8500 - very fast.

Not sure if they added something that I am missing or not ...

Hi,
Ive errors in memtest x86, while running test 7:

Test 7 [Random number sequence]

This test writes a series of random numbers into memory. By resetting the seed for the random number the same sequence of number can be created for a reference. The initial pattern is checked and then complemented and checked again on the next pass. However, unlike the moving inversions test writing and checking can only be done in the forward direction.

My cfg:
* Intel duo 2 e6400: 400x6
* DDR2 PC6400C4 Corsair 2x512

It only happens when running in DUAL CHANNEL !!

I dont know what to do, please help me. I tried to disable all features in bios but with no effect.

What is better: run in dual channel or fsb2ram 1:1 ?

/edit

Tested with 300x8 and ram at 800mhz, works fine.

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Originally Posted by tompl

Hi,
Ive errors in memtest x86, while running test 7:

Test 7 [Random number sequence]

This test writes a series of random numbers into memory. By resetting the seed for the random number the same sequence of number can be created for a reference. The initial pattern is checked and then complemented and checked again on the next pass. However, unlike the moving inversions test writing and checking can only be done in the forward direction.

My cfg:
* Intel duo 2 e6400: 400x6
* DDR2 PC6400C4 Corsair 2x512

It only happens when running in DUAL CHANNEL !!

I dont know what to do, please help me. I tried to disable all features in bios but with no effect.

What is better: run in dual channel or fsb2ram 1:1 ?

/edit

Tested with 300x7 and ram at 800mhz, works fine.

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Try putting your RAM in the other two dual channel slots. Sometimes those slots can be picky.

Hey guys, it's been awhile since I've overclocked, but like many others, I found this thread to be very helpful.

I don't know if this problem is strange or not, but my settings are as follows:

CPU Frequency: 400MHz (e6600)
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 800MHz (1:1) - G.skill
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 101
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.15V
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.61V (1.58 reported by asus probe)
FSB Termination: 1.2
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Digital Home Mode: Disabled

Under Advanced Chipset:

DRAM Timings by SPD: Manual (per RAM specs 4-4-4-12)
DRAM ECC Mode: Disabled
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttling Threshold: Disabled
*All PEG Settings AUTO*

So I'm running dual prime 95 with the custom settings - max FFT at 900, and memory usage at 1790kb for both. I made this mistake as I really meant to put 900kb for memory usage on both instances of prime 95. It's strange that with the settings like this, I can run 18hours+ of this and everything is fine. However, when I left the max FFT to default at 4096, and memory usage at 900kb, 1 instance of prime will crash within minutes. Can anyone explain why this is?


Am I at the limit with my cpu? I've tried all voltage settings from 1.56 -> 1.61 and it seems like 1.61 (1.58 in asus probe) has allowed me to run dual prime 95 at 400fsb, but with the above problem. This chip was able to run at least 370fsb at 1.4v. Seems like too high of a jump in vcore to hit 400fsb. Heat doesn't seem to be a problem as I'm running a watercooling setup (cpu doesnt hit over 40C) as well as an active cooler on the nb (nb doesnt hit over 50c). I've tried everything including changing bios to 1602, reverted back to 1503 now. I've changed VMCH to 1.8+ and vdimm set to SPD/manual at 2.2 vdimm, FSB termination to 1.3, swapped memory slots, etc and nothing seems to help except the vcore increase.

One last thing to note: I'm able to run 3dmark loop at 400fsb w/ 1.56v(1.52-1.53v) for 24+ hours and memtest86 for 24+ hours without any problems. I'm also able to play bf2102 and company of heroes for hours without any problems as well.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Edit: It's the chip, set the multiplier at 8 and runs 400mhz w/o any probs.

S3 resume JMicron problems seem to be solved by the 10 Oct 06 beta JMB36X drivers, have done 4 proper S3 resumes so far. Hoping this is the real thing at last!

:D

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Originally Posted by kaiguy

Try putting your RAM in the other two dual channel slots. Sometimes those slots can be picky.

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I tried, but with no effect.

Can somebody help me?

I dont know whats going on, with it.
Now i have set fsb 375x7, with fsb:ddram ratio 1:1 and works fine. When i closing to fsb 400, i get many errors ~7 in one pass, passing 400mhz fsb number of errors increase.

390 is max speed, without error

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Originally Posted by pphx459

It's the chip, set the multiplier at 8 and runs 400mhz w/o any probs.

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How do one change the multiplier? :confused:
*edit*
Found it. :o

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Originally Posted by flashnc

raise your Vcore to say 1.475 ( then any voltage higher that temps allow you as you overclock higher, keep an eye on temperatures)
MCH to 1.65
ICH to 2.0
dram throttling-disabled

set Pcie to 105

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yep i did as you suggested but Orthos still dies after 40 seconds.... Prime95 lasted 13 mins

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Originally Posted by nanoprobe32

your way above your ram limit, it problay would have to run
cas6 to hit over 360

even the corsair XMS2-8500C5 have very poor SPD timings
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9144/cpuzei9.png

Team Xtreem PC6400
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3792/spdyd0.jpg

cellshock PC6400
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4263/cellshockih9.jpg


so guess out of those 3 rams that will run into the 975 bug
corsair compatable spd timings myth

the Team Xtreem PC6400 and cellshock wont have the FSB bug over 360
simply because their programmed correctly.

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I'm lost. I also can't boot over 360fsb, and I have tried everything. I can boot at all stock voltages and run completely stable at 356fsb with SPD timings (1:1 and 5:4 memory ratios).

If I try 360fsb, with Auto SPD (PC6400 OCZ Platinum Rev 2 at any divider, including running below rated speed) I can't boot, nor can I run stable even if I crank all my voltages up.

So what is keeping me from posting at 360fsb or above???

You got Pcie set at 105 in Bios?
Also you might want to try 1503 BOIS.

Guys I need help here..
This is not pertaining to this thread, so please don't flame me..
This is the only username/password I could remember..
I just installed Windows Vista, and I'm having a hard time finding drivers for it, I think it installed it's own drivers for eveything..
But I can't find drivers for my 8800 GTS, + I can't use the Asus Installed disk for my P5WDH Deluxe..
Can someone do me a favor and find me some links for drivers and things so I can get back up running fully..
And clock this baby up again...:)

Thankyou so MUUUCH...guys.

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Originally Posted by rpr

I'm lost. I also can't boot over 360fsb, and I have tried everything. I can boot at all stock voltages and run completely stable at 356fsb with SPD timings (1:1 and 5:4 memory ratios).

If I try 360fsb, with Auto SPD (PC6400 OCZ Platinum Rev 2 at any divider, including running below rated speed) I can't boot, nor can I run stable even if I crank all my voltages up.

So what is keeping me from posting at 360fsb or above???

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Flash 1503 Bios and try these settings:

CPU Frequency: 400MHz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800MHz (1:1)
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 101
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.25V
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.5v *if it doesnt boot keep upping it till it boots; if it does boot run orthos an hour, if it fails then go back up more vcore, if it doesnt then go back lower it a bit and rerun orthos
FSB Termination: 1.4
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V *you have the older board no 1.85vmch, avoid running divider for your ram @ 1000; some board need 1.75v to get stable with that
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Digital Home Mode: Disabled

Under Advanced Chipset:

DRAM Timings by SPD: Manual (use rated timing such as 4-4-4-12 etc..)
DRAM ECC Mode: Disabled
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttling Threshold: Enabled
*All PEG Settings AUTO*

Under advanced CPU settings:

Microcode Updation: Enabled
Virtualization Technology: Enabled
*Everything else: Disabled*

Under device settings:

1394 Controller: Disabled
PCIE GbE LAN 1 or 2: Disabled (the one you're not using)
Jmicron SATA: Disabled (if not use)
Serial Port Address: Disabled

Hi guys is there anybody who is running QX6700 at ASUS P5W DH DLX?
And if yes.
What OC he was able to reach? I am sort of stuck at 3200MHz ,

and i think there is something wrong with my temperature

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8876/tempdf9.jpg

This is what Core Temp shows me , so i think i messed ups something with installation of the Tuniq Tower.

7 degree difference does seem a bit much but the temp could be about right.

Any solution yet to the PIO mode-only problem using the Intel IDE port? I switched to the JMicron port, but having a streched cable over the soundcard really stinks...

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by syne_24

Flash 1503 Bios and try these settings:

CPU Frequency: 400MHz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800MHz (1:1)
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 101
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.25V
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.5v *if it doesnt boot keep upping it till it boots; if it does boot run orthos an hour, if it fails then go back up more vcore, if it doesnt then go back lower it a bit and rerun orthos
FSB Termination: 1.4
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V *you have the older board no 1.85vmch, avoid running divider for your ram @ 1000; some board need 1.75v to get stable with that
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Digital Home Mode: Disabled

Under Advanced Chipset:

DRAM Timings by SPD: Manual (use rated timing such as 4-4-4-12 etc..)
DRAM ECC Mode: Disabled
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttling Threshold: Enabled
*All PEG Settings AUTO*

Under advanced CPU settings:

Microcode Updation: Enabled
Virtualization Technology: Enabled
*Everything else: Disabled*

Under device settings:

1394 Controller: Disabled
PCIE GbE LAN 1 or 2: Disabled (the one you're not using)
Jmicron SATA: Disabled (if not use)
Serial Port Address: Disabled

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Tried that and I was able to boot up but I can't get it stable past 390 FSB.
It so damn hard to get to 400 FSB on this motherboard. :stick:

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Originally Posted by Gascogne

Tried that and I was able to boot up but I can't get it stable past 390 FSB.
It so damn hard to get to 400 FSB on this motherboard. :stick:

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Thats wierd, i can get 400 easily.

How is your NB Cooling? i ripped apart the HOME and Asus logo from NB and SB and installed 2 40mm fans on them my temps have gone down a lot to run 1.75 MCH and 2v ICH with out problem, I don't have the magical B stepping CPU as everybody else. but I manage to boot with out a problem at 400x8 in my 6400.

My approach to OC is max everything in Bios in terms of Voltages, except Memory because mine will not run on anything ABOVE 2.30 (even with cooling). and start at FSB 333, if its start run 20mins of orthos and if stable, up to 350,380,400 There is a whole in my OC adventure when 1 time i was able to boot at 450 and be stable but with vCore of 1.6 since I was in air i didn't feel comfortable at core temps of around 70-72.

For 400x8 I normally need MCH at least at 1.65 or 1.75 and vCore of 1.4250 other values don't matter much... Remember to disable everything you don't need (JMicron, Serial, LAN2, etc etc.)

Why do you guys recommend 105 Mhz in PCI-E instead of the normal 100? i have read almost all of the 90+ pages but can't find why...

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Originally Posted by syne_24

Flash 1503 Bios and try these settings:

CPU Frequency: 400MHz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800MHz (1:1)
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 101
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.25V
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.5v *if it doesnt boot keep upping it till it boots; if it does boot run orthos an hour, if it fails then go back up more vcore, if it doesnt then go back lower it a bit and rerun orthos
FSB Termination: 1.4
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V *you have the older board no 1.85vmch, avoid running divider for your ram @ 1000; some board need 1.75v to get stable with that
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Digital Home Mode: Disabled

Under Advanced Chipset:

DRAM Timings by SPD: Manual (use rated timing such as 4-4-4-12 etc..)
DRAM ECC Mode: Disabled
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttling Threshold: Enabled
*All PEG Settings AUTO*

Under advanced CPU settings:

Microcode Updation: Enabled
Virtualization Technology: Enabled
*Everything else: Disabled*

Under device settings:

1394 Controller: Disabled
PCIE GbE LAN 1 or 2: Disabled (the one you're not using)
Jmicron SATA: Disabled (if not use)
Serial Port Address: Disabled

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Thanks, I'll give it a shot.

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Originally Posted by Gascogne

Tried that and I was able to boot up but I can't get it stable past 390 FSB.
It so damn hard to get to 400 FSB on this motherboard. :stick:

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So you were able to boot, what's your vcore at with 400x9? Keep raising it and rerun orthos to isolate the problem if its coming from the cpu. I usually do 3 simple vcore range to tell if my e6600 is good or not such as: 1.35v (1st class), 1.45v (2nd class), 1.55v (3rd class). Once you can boot with one of those at 400x9 then you need to keep upping or lowering it by little and rerun orthos until stable.

Edit: I should also added you guys with the 400fsb problem have already reapply some AS5 in the northbridge and hopefully are not running it passive right? You need a fan on the northbridge for this board, I would highly recommend it if you'r having stability problem.

I agree completley about a fan for the MCH or Northbridge. That HS measures about 78C at its base with active cooling and about 40C with a 40mm fan on it.

sparx

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Originally Posted by syne_24

So you were able to boot, what's your vcore at with 400x9? Keep raising it and rerun orthos to isolate the problem if its coming from the cpu. I usually do 3 simple vcore range to tell if my e6600 is good or not such as: 1.35v (1st class), 1.45v (2nd class), 1.55v (3rd class). Once you can boot with one of those at 400x9 then you need to keep upping or lowering it by little and rerun orthos until stable.

Edit: I should also added you guys with the 400fsb problem have already reapply some AS5 in the northbridge and hopefully are not running it passive right? You need a fan on the northbridge for this board, I would highly recommend it if you'r having stability problem.

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Yes I have added AS5 to the northbridge and such, but is a fan really needed if the temperature is around 36 degress celsius?

I would rate my E6600 as 4th class due to it is really volt hungry, it needs around 1.65v (36-37 degress celcius idle).
Batch code: L624A606

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Originally Posted by Gascogne

Yes I have added AS5 to the northbridge and such, but is a fan really needed if the temperature is around 36 degress celsius?

I would rate my E6600 as 4th class due to it is really volt hungry, it needs around 1.65v (36-37 degress celcius idle).
Batch code: L624A606

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That is a very good temp without a fan.
Are you using the factory HS and taking temp from base of HS?
sparx

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Originally Posted by Sparx

That is a very good temp without a fan.
Are you using the factory HS and taking temp from base of HS?
sparx

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Yes it is factory HS and Im using Asus Pc Probe to see the temp.

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Originally Posted by Gascogne

Yes I have added AS5 to the northbridge and such, but is a fan really needed if the temperature is around 36 degress celsius?

I would rate my E6600 as 4th class due to it is really volt hungry, it needs around 1.65v (36-37 degress celcius idle).
Batch code: L624A606

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If you are reading that temps from the sensor called "MB sensor", you must know that it´s placed in the southbridge, not northbridge :)

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Originally Posted by Gascogne

Yes I have added AS5 to the northbridge and such, but is a fan really needed if the temperature is around 36 degress celsius?

I would rate my E6600 as 4th class due to it is really volt hungry, it needs around 1.65v (36-37 degress celcius idle).
Batch code: L624A606

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Yes the week 24 which is one of the first batch that came out as retail, needed a lot of vcore for staility. My first one needed 1.58v to get stable and about 6 other week 24's I had needed around 1.53-1.57v as well. You did good, atleast you isolated the problem to the point where you know it's the cpu that is what holding you back. My recommendation is to get a latest B batch E6600, they normally do very well with much lower vcore. As matter of fact the B batch is what got me interested in these Conroe again, frankly I was getting kinda bored.

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If you are reading that temps from the sensor called "MB sensor", you must know that it´s placed in the southbridge, not northbridge :)

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:nono:

I have a proble stuck in the MCH HS to get a reading.
@ 27C ambient 39 mch idle.
sparx

why do u increase memory voltage, when u dont overclock it?

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why do u increase memory voltage, when u dont overclock it?

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I don't know who is doing that but 1.35 is good for a E6600.
jim

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why do u increase memory voltage, when u dont overclock it?

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Normal DDR-2 is set to run at 1.8 stock. Some memory at 800mhz or more are set tu RUN at that speeds with 2.1 volts, ie my OCZ6400. So there is nothing wrong with upping the volts to manufacturer specs.

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Yes the week 24 which is one of the first batch that came out as retail, needed a lot of vcore for staility. My first one needed 1.58v to get stable and about 6 other week 24's I had needed around 1.53-1.57v as well. You did good, atleast you isolated the problem to the point where you know it's the cpu that is what holding you back. My recommendation is to get a latest B batch E6600, they normally do very well with much lower vcore. As matter of fact the B batch is what got me interested in these Conroe again, frankly I was getting kinda bored.

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CPUZ shows my E6600 as "Revision B2". Is that what you are referring to when you say "B" batch CPU?

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:nono:

I have a proble stuck in the MCH HS to get a reading.
@ 27C ambient 39 mch idle.
sparx

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I´ve said that if you read the temps from de MB sensor. Obviusly using a probe will give you exact temps.

Has anyone tried cpu-z 1.38? I'm getting "An error occured when opening the driver."

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Originally Posted by NghtShd

Has anyone tried cpu-z 1.38? I'm getting "An error occured when opening the driver."

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There was an error in the first release.
Download the fixed version from CPUz's site now :)

2 Things

Anything new with BIOS 1602?

Why do you guys put PCI-E setting at 105Mhz?

Regards

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CPUZ shows my E6600 as "Revision B2". Is that what you are referring to when you say "B" batch CPU?

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no if you look at your FPO Batch#, it will say something like L628B368. Where the older week will have an A there.

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Why do you guys put PCI-E setting at 105Mhz?

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I would guess that to probably make it look like this settings been tweaked......:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by pancito

2 Things

Anything new with BIOS 1602?

Why do you guys put PCI-E setting at 105Mhz?

Regards

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1) Some new memory related thing which pertains to 64-bit OSs. I don't remember exactly what it does at the moment.

2) I do it because the square root of 6 is 2.44948974278 and 2+4+4+9+4+8+9+7+4+2+7+8=68 and 6+8=14 and 1+4=5 and the square root of 5 is 2.2360679775 and my CPU socket is a 775 so I take that away leaving 2.2360679 and 2+2+3+6+0+6+7+9=29 and 2+9=11 and 1+1=2 which is the number of cores my CPU has. I also do it because other people said to do it and they probably do it because other other people said do it and they probably do it because somebody made a typo.

run 3dmark 06 with the pcie @100 and again @110 and see the differance.

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run 3dmark 06 with the pcie @100 and again @110 and see the differance.

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Can you tell the difference? now i´ve no time but i want to know :D

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Originally Posted by Potato Salad

Guys I need help here..

Can someone do me a favor and find me some links for drivers and things so I can get back up running fully..

Thankyou so MUUUCH...guys.

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Link:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

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Originally Posted by DutchBBQ

Link:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

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Properly a stupid question but the drivers for the mb are these? -> 6. INF Update Utility [INFINST_AUTOL.EXE] (1103KB) 8.0.1.1002 6/6/2006 Download

:toast:

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Can you tell the difference? now i´ve no time but i want to know :D

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:D
I was thinking the same.:D
I have seen guys run it at 110 stating they had to for stability.
Maybe I will try 110 and test it. :explode2:
sparx

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Properly a stupid question but the drivers for the mb are these? -> 6. INF Update Utility [INFINST_AUTOL.EXE] (1103KB) 8.0.1.1002 6/6/2006 Download

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You're RIGHT!! Thanks!
I've adjusted it.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

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Download:
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Originally Posted by NghtShd

2) I do it because the square root of 6 is 2.44948974278 and 2+4+4+9+4+8+9+7+4+2+7+8=68 and 6+8=14 and 1+4=5 and the square root of 5 is 2.2360679775 and my CPU socket is a 775 so I take that away leaving 2.2360679 and 2+2+3+6+0+6+7+9=29 and 2+9=11 and 1+1=2 which is the number of cores my CPU has. I also do it because other people said to do it and they probably do it because other other people said do it and they probably do it because somebody made a typo.

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ppfff this is so bad , got me a new p5w Dh but it can boot above 340fsb :(: .
did evreything on first page nothing helps :(

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ppfff this is so bad , got me a new p5w Dh but it can boot above 340fsb :(: .
did evreything on first page nothing helps :(

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try disabling DRAM Throttling

iLL

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From the readme:

Target Chipset(s)#: Q963/Q965/P965/G965 and 3000/3010/3100 and 5000 Series

This chipset software is not meant for the P5WDH (975X).

In any case, I've been running Vista Ultimate 32-bit Final for about a week, and the plug & play drivers it installed for the 975X chipset seem to be just fine.

-phil

I like the new 1602 bios. It helped AI booster to show correct cpu speed again. But, I have noticed a certain smoothness with this update. I was very pleased with the 1305 but still this one has a nice feel about it. Like with a little more time Asus will bring this board to maturity. I have liked my board from day one. It and I started with a 950 presler and we got to be good friends. It ran the presler daily at 4800mhz and it gave me time to learn about board before I finally plugged in my Conroe. I have a very efficient liquid cooling system and run daily at 421 fsb with my V-core running at 1.650
and my mem running 1:1 with my timings set at 3-3-3-6 and my mem voltage runniung at 2.35. There are boards that run the equivalent cpu at faster speeds but they have to run much faster to out score this board so there is the trade off. Me I am satisfied with the board overall. I still believe Asus will improve on it with each new bios or at least every third or fourth bios update. you can check my sig for my system and the links to my benches to back up the overall performance of this great system. It is amazing what it will do with one $236 vid card on the benches and a $6.41 circuit writer pen!! Stay cool with your boards, time will make them better.. Check my avatar you will see a 80mm fan blowing over my mem to cool it. The same fan helps my Northbridge too. Back to the 1602 bios.... I run 32bit and I am telling you for me this is an excellent bios.

The new cpu-z 1.38 works fine.

WZ

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Originally Posted by WeldZilla

I like the new 1602 bios. It helped AI booster to show correct cpu speed again. But, I have noticed a certain smoothness with this update. I was very pleased with the 1305 but still this one has a nice feel about it. Like with a little more time Asus will bring this board to maturity. I have liked my board from day one. It and I started with a 950 presler and we got to be good friends. It ran the presler daily at 4800mhz and it gave me time to learn about board before I finally plugged in my Conroe. I have a very efficient liquid cooling system and run daily at 421 fsb with my V-core running at 1.650
and my mem running 1:1 with my timings set at 3-3-3-6 and my mem voltage runniung at 2.35. There are boards that run the equivalent cpu at faster speeds but they have to run much faster to out score this board so there is the trade off. Me I am satisfied with the board overall. I still believe Asus will improve on it with each new bios or at least every third or fourth bios update. you can check my sig for my system and the links to my benches to back up the overall performance of this great system. It is amazing what it will do with one $236 vid card on the benches and a $6.41 circuit writer pen!! Stay cool with your boards, time will make them better.. Check my avatar you will see a 80mm fan blowing over my mem to cool it. The same fan helps my Northbridge too. Back to the 1602 bios.... I run 32bit and I am telling you for me this is an excellent bios.

The new cpu-z 1.38 works fine.

WZ

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Every person I have seen with no problems on this board uses G Skill memory. This fsb issue has got to be memory related. I bet it is some kind of setting that ASUS does not give us access to in the BIOS.

I popped in a new E6600 (L630B) and am able to do 3.8 @ 1.5v. Previously, my L627A could only do at max 390mhz. However, now I am getting random reboots with winxp 32 bit. Orthos, dual prime all run w/o any problems. I have tried everything including upping the vcore (seriously doubt it's a cpu problem), changing vdimm from 2.1 to 2.25 and mch/fsb voltages, non which seem to help. This is all done on bios 1503.

I am now running bios 1602 and so far things seem to be better. Crossing my fingers. :)

Btw Weldzilla, did you change any subtimings on your memory?

Edit: 1602 Fixed the random reboots. Rock solid with Orthos running for at 9+ hours and memtest at 3k%. Nice job Asus.

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Is there any benefit to running RAM in either slots?

Does it matter if Orange or Black in otherwords........:)

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Is there any benefit to running RAM in either slots?

Does it matter if Orange or Black in otherwords........:)

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For me it doesn't matter, have tried both slots now for some time and no difference.

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Every person I have seen with no problems on this board uses G Skill memory. This fsb issue has got to be memory related. I bet it is some kind of setting that ASUS does not give us access to in the BIOS.

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:toast:
:clap:

:rotf:

I agree!

sparx :D

yes I have never had a problem and i traded this board for my p5b deluxe and it was used !

I like it better and gskill is my fav since my ddr 500 UCCC sticks on my dfi ultra-d

Where are the BIOSmodders? We just need tRFC unlocked for RAMissues^^

iLL

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Originally Posted by DutchBBQ

NOV. 21, 2006 RELEASE
Intel® Chipset Software Installation Utility v. 8.1.1.1010

WARNING: APPLY ONLY DURING FRESH INSTALL!!!!

For:
Windows Server* 2003,
Windows Server* 2003 Enterprise x64 Edition,
Windows Server* 2003 Standard Edition,
Windows Server* 2003 Standard x64 Edition,
Windows Vista*, Windows Vista* 64,
Windows Vista* Business, 32-bit version,
Windows Vista* Business, 64-bit version,
Windows Vista* Enterprise, 32-bit version,
Windows Vista* Enterprise, 64-bit version,
Windows Vista* Home Basic, 32-bit version,
Windows Vista* Home Basic, 64-bit version,
Windows Vista* Home Premium, 32-bit version,
Windows Vista* Home Premium, 64-bit version,
Windows Vista* Starter, 32-bit version,
Windows Vista* Ultimate, 32-bit version,
Windows Vista* Ultimate, 64-bit version,
Windows* 2000,
Windows* XP Home Edition,
Windows* XP Media Center Edition,
Windows* XP Professional,
Windows* XP Professional x64 Edition

Supports:
Intel® 6300ESB I/O Controller Hub
Intel® 848P Chipset
Intel® 865 Chipset Family
Intel® 875P Chipset
Intel® 910 Express Chipset Family
Intel® 915 Express Chipset Family
Intel® 925X Express Chipset Family
Intel® 945 Express Chipset Family
Intel® 946 Express Chipset Family
Intel® 955X Express Chipset
Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family
Intel® 975X Express Chipset
Intel® Centrino® Duo Mobile Technology
Intel® Centrino® Mobile Technology
Intel® Chipset Software Installation Utility
Intel® E7210 Chipset
Intel® E7221 Chipset
Intel® E7230 Chipset
Intel® E7320 Chipset
Intel® E7520 Chipset
Intel® E7525 Chipset
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Mobile Intel® 915 Express Chipset Family
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There, now I can read which version of Windows is supported. :D

Is it possible to buy watercooling parts (as suggested in the picture below) for the Asus P5W DH Deluxe from an English speaking site:

http://mips-computer.de/images/p5wdh_full_mounted.jpg

The last time I had an 8800GTX it sent the idle temperature of my northbridge to to 51 degrees celsius when idle thus I have seriously been contemplating watercooling as the solution to both high temperatures in modern graphics cards and its effects on the surrounding components.

It would also keep the PC relatively quiet if I bumped it up to 3ghz again. :p

I dont have any north bridge temperature problems.

It's not so much a problem (it's stable after all) but given it can go as high as 46c during the summer (and it is in the loft area of my house that can get very hot during the summer) I would like to bring it down if possible without adding more noise thus the idea of watercooling seems quite attractive.

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Where are the BIOSmodders? We just need tRFC unlocked for RAMissues^^

iLL

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You won't get very far with asus bioses. The bios editors that are available all crash when you try to open recent bioses. Also, no one can edit the tRFC into the bios, if it's already coded and is just hidden, then it's possible but no one can just recode a bios with tRFC in it.

Those things are rated for 40 to 65C and mine usually stays @ 49C or thereabouts.

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You won't get very far with asus bioses. The bios editors that are available all crash when you try to open recent bioses. Also, no one can edit the tRFC into the bios, if it's already coded and is just hidden, then it's possible but no one can just recode a bios with tRFC in it.

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Ok then that leaves us no choice than to either sell the motherboard, get new memory, or re-program the SPD for the memory itself.

Wow, those are not the best options.

:mad:

Hey guys... upgraded to the new 1602 BIOS and now can't increase the multiplier of my x6800 to 13. Anyone else notice this?

In 1503 I have the multiplier=13 for 3.46ghz, ram at DDR2-1067 for PC-8500 - very fast.

Not sure if they added something that I am missing or not ...

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

You won't get very far with asus bioses. The bios editors that are available all crash when you try to open recent bioses. Also, no one can edit the tRFC into the bios, if it's already coded and is just hidden, then it's possible but no one can just recode a bios with tRFC in it.

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If you mean adding tRFC to the menu then I agree. It might be possible to edit it in such a way that is uses a more conservative tRFC setting so that manual timings work better, however.

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Hey guys... upgraded to the new 1602 BIOS and now can't increase the multiplier of my x6800 to 13. Anyone else notice this?

In 1503 I have the multiplier=13 for 3.46ghz, ram at DDR2-1067 for PC-8500 - very fast.

Not sure if they added something that I am missing or not ...

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Can confirm this as well. 1602 don't allow mp over 11 to be entered.
Get your act together ASUS!!

Hmm, I haven't upped the multiplier but with my e6600 with x9 multi, I am sitting at 3.9 with 1.5v rock stable. This wasn't possible with 1503.

http://www.toptenguild.net/pics/pc/oc_430.JPG

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Hmm, I haven't upped the multiplier but with my e6600 with x9 multi, I am sitting at 3.9 with 1.5v rock stable. This wasn't possible with 1503.

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What cooling are you using?

Using water, storm block, with pa 120.3.

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Using water, storm block, with pa 120.3.

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what is your batch ver of your CPU? A or B .Thanks:D

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Where are the BIOSmodders? We just need tRFC unlocked for RAMissues^^

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Went searching hi and low, for advice/information on running the P5W DH with Geil 6400 4-4-4-12 UDC. When I tested it I couldn't raise the FSB over 365. What ever I tried, and the memory needed 2.2v to do anything at all.

I stuck my AW9D-max back in, and the memory is working just fine. Haven't pushed it but have had it at FSB 405 1:1 4-4-4-12 2.1V

The latest bios in the aw9d, which I'm running does have a trfc option, mine's currently at a default 35 in bios. Albeit I realise there's a bit more to it, I wonder if having a trfc option is indeed the answer/solution to some of these ram issues.

Just got to say though that currently P5W DH and Geil 6400 4-4-4-12 UDC is a bad combo choice. For anyone considering.

Limited for choice in Thailand, no mushkin, OCZ, team, Gskill HZ etc, so can I ask is corsair the way to go. Say the 6400 dominator stuff?

Cheers

RLM

What should I have this set to :

MEMORY REMAP FEATURE

ENABLED or DISABLED ?

Cheers

Assuming you're using a 32-bit OS, then you want to have it disabled.

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Every person I have seen with no problems on this board uses G Skill memory. This fsb issue has got to be memory related. I bet it is some kind of setting that ASUS does not give us access to in the BIOS.

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Its a ram timing problem (safty feature)
when you boot at FSB 360+ the asus 975 boards
are more stricter with SPD timmings if your pushing high FSB

so when you set manual memory timings then save and reboot
it no's your ram cant run @ those speeds as its looking at your Poor SPD timings table, so it gives you a black screen

so now it wants you to set auto SPD but the problem now, is your memory is running way slack timmings 5.5.5.15

So the only way to solve it, is buy RAM that has aggrasive timings in the
SPD tables like the teams xtreem,Cellshock, Gskill, and you will boot 400 fsb with manual timings no problem.

i have found this out with my p5w 64 workstation
changed ram to some cellshock PC 6400 and no more 360 fsb bug
can boot @ 420 fsb 1.1 with memory @ 4.4.4.12 @2.1 volts

memory affected will be the crosair range, Geil, some OCZ
hope this helps alot of folks i spent ages trying to solve this.

As I said in previous post quality stuff is hard to come by here. Does the corsair dominator 6400 4-4-4-12 (I think it is), have the same fsb/spd issues with this board? I understand from another thread that corsair tends to work better on the asus boards.

I've got a pw5 sat here, and am contemplating another build for a mate of mine, and don't want to end up wasting more money if poss on the wrong components.

Thanks

RLM

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Assuming you're using a 32-bit OS, then you want to have it disabled.

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thanks ;)

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Originally Posted by RLM

As I said in previous post quality stuff is hard to come by here. Does the corsair dominator 6400 4-4-4-12 (I think it is), have the same fsb/spd issues with this board? I understand from another thread that corsair tends to work better on the asus boards.

I've got a pw5 sat here, and am contemplating another build for a mate of mine, and don't want to end up wasting more money if poss on the wrong components.

Thanks

RLM

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yes that corsair will have problems, because crosair program the memory
SPD table to something like 5.5.5.12 @ 400 fsb

you need ram that says 4.4.4.12 @ 400 fsb in the SPD tables not many ram on market has this

there is no need for corsair to program the memory with crappy timings
thats a myth, that its for compatable reasons
because my ram can boot up with 5.5.5.15 with 1.8 on auto everything and there is not even any 5.5.5.15 timings in my SPD tables to be seen.