noone really answered my question, does having a higher multi mean u can run lower voltages and get the same clock, and havethe cpu run cooler? or is it just a nice thing to have so you dont have to run on a divider?
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noone really answered my question, does having a higher multi mean u can run lower voltages and get the same clock, and havethe cpu run cooler? or is it just a nice thing to have so you dont have to run on a divider?
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Originally Posted by trance565
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just a nice thing to have so you dont have to run on a divider?
But it COULD lead to all the others as well :cool:
1:1 has no meaning on a chip with an integrated memory controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by trance565
An unlocked chip lets you pick a multiplier where you are most likely to get a stable OC in cases where you are limited by your board or chips HTT threshold....people on DFI's for example are not usually having HTT trouble....so my Venny being unlocked would not make a diff to me as far as I know. SO the advantage of an unlocked chip...more multis, more options, more options often means the good tweakers can get better OC's. For hacks like me it means nada... I can crank the HTT like everyone else ...In fact I prefer to as I have fast RAM...I need that 300 showing up ;)
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Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey
true, but it's simpler than guessing thier multiplier if they haven't posted it
I dont think you guys are on the right track..
I believe that pirs cpu has some pin disconnected (perhaps a factory fault and then pirs maybe have pushed a pin so it doesnt have contact anymore)
Someone better measure the pins or try to isolate pin one by one (which is rather time consuming i know :rolleyes: )
The registers may change due to motherboard/ divider/ clockspeed/changed multi?? I dont know but im just giving my thoughts on this..
If we isolate the pins controlling the multi (whichever they are) perhaps we can do some magic :)
Like doing a hardmod on some motherboard without multi adjustment..
jah but try running a divider on Venice and DFI(dunno other mobo)and see if they work :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey
"180" doesn't
"166" does
"150" doesn't
so if i'd have multis unlocked i'd run my venice at 280x10 so i don't have to use any divider :banana:
but i'm not the lucky one to have the unlocked venice :mad:
THE MSI neo4 can run all divider, 200,183,166,150 through bios also if you have the beta :D
sorry for off topic trail. I have the K8n Neo2 1.A4 bios. It has the 183 and 150 dividers available. No post last time i used 183, can anyone confirm they work?
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Originally Posted by tndb
this not controlled BY one pin is something internal and hardcoded
On the Athlon 64's its 1:10 or something like that.
Are you sure those dividers don't work or are they just being misreported?Quote:
Originally Posted by |SiLA|
I have a 3000 Venice doing 308x9 on my ultra -d bios 623-3, and I haven't had any trouble using dividers whatsoever. I have "only" tried 200/183/166/150 though. But an unlocked multi would be nice nonetheless.
Perhaps it depends on the memcontroller. For example, I could not boot with 10x multi above 225htt on my 3500+ Clawhammer, but 291x9 worked flawlessly. Strange thing indeed.
People, do not offtop here.
Wow I just read through that whole thread. Good way to kill time at work heh. What happened with Pirs CPU, did he ever sell it?
ya??? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
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Lol can you at least say who has it, and if there has been any progress figuring the mystery CPU out?
most likely a pm to ref or pirs would get you that answer.
back on topic tin_EOF i will be sending you the board hope to be recieving the board from him this friday - monday depending upon when the transfer clears and should only cost about $35 total he is also sending your addy with it. so you will get your board by hopefully 2weeks from today :D
Mr_Slinky
Okay, I'll wait for it.
OK so i dont think that there are any special CPU BSDL files out there for AMD, and it looks like anything that could be found regarding JTAG and AMD has been found. So am i right in assuming that were kinda on hold untill Tin_Eof gets a chance to play with the board. Any other assingments for little underlings the likes of me :D
No, you're pretty much useless :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Acrazar
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Originally Posted by leviathan18
It could be.. How do you explain pirs situation? Logical it can only be that some pin/s has no contact with motherboard and thus making it possible to change the multi..
OR
Amd has made one 3000+ venice unlocked from factory and thats strange that no one else has a similar cpu as pirs or what do you think? :confused:
It is probably hardcoded yes but I think by bypassing one or two pins would make it possible as the motherboard doesnt get the hardcoded information sent to bios and then it acts like an fx cpu or any other unlocked cpu?
If someone could send pirs a multimeter so he could measure the pins then we may have solved this perhaps..
Looking at page 29 @ http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/31411.pdf
you can see the amd 939 pin layout diagram and here we can see which pins to measure and which are out of the question to measure...
If we exclude the pins not to measure then there aint many to measure.. I think we can fix this if we just can get pirs to measure..
Today I will measure ALL NC_xx pins and then try to disconnect EACH of them one by one. Wait for further information.
P.S. But I think that this don't help us with our goal. But I try :)
maybe I should just buy the damn thing off him, remove heatspreader, measure each and every pin, and use my schools science labs to examine it....