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05-21-2011, 07:19 PM
Sn0wm@n

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Originally Posted by Olivon

Nope. I'm really serious ...

But we will see ;)

share your source
05-21-2011, 07:54 PM
perkam

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Originally Posted by undone

Good analysing. If it's true it will be a good sign for amd. Even if the Zambezi single core abillity can only reach Westmere, the higher frequency will be more than enough to fill the gap. 95w with 8 core @3.6-4.0ghz is awesome.

The clock rates for the 8 core BD are not that high, in part because you can't achieve Turbo Core 2.0 levels, as posted here:

http://blogs.amd.com/work/files/2011...t-for-John.jpg

...without setting the stock speeds to a more conservative level. The above is a good representation of what the FX-8130P will be able to achieve in terms of Turbo Core.
05-21-2011, 11:38 PM
Aussie FX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

share your source

It will be that stupid unsubstantiated rumour by a guy from an English site who claims to have a Bulldozer.
He won't say anything either, funny about that.

I've been searching all day in an attempt to confirm this "rumour" and can't find a thing. I'm hardly surprised.
It originated here.
http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread.php?t=26041&page=60

If AMD had a showstopper which is the only thing that would stop the launch now then they would be legally obliged to inform stock markets etc immediately.
It would be all over the internet like wildfire.
05-22-2011, 12:37 AM
undone

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

The clock rates for the 8 core BD are not that high, in part because you can't achieve Turbo Core 2.0 levels, as posted here:

http://blogs.amd.com/work/files/2011...t-for-John.jpg

...without setting the stock speeds to a more conservative level. The above is a good representation of what the FX-8130P will be able to achieve in terms of Turbo Core.

Sorry i can't understand what does this diagram stand for. Does turbo core affect the stock frequency? Maybe anybody tell us about the actual stock frequency & turbo core frequency would clear all doubt.:D
05-22-2011, 01:40 AM
Olivon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie FX

It will be that stupid unsubstantiated rumour by a guy from an English site who claims to have a Bulldozer.
He won't say anything either, funny about that.

I've been searching all day in an attempt to confirm this "rumour" and can't find a thing. I'm hardly surprised.
It originated here.
http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread.php?t=26041&page=60

If AMD had a showstopper which is the only thing that would stop the launch now then they would be legally obliged to inform stock markets etc immediately.
It would be all over the internet like wildfire.

I can't tell you the source but that's coming directly from one mobo maker.
05-22-2011, 02:11 AM
muziqaz

What maker? EVGA? :D
05-22-2011, 02:35 AM
informal

Well if there is a delay then AMD will have to come out in a few days and tell the world. But I don't buy this at all.Sure it's possible but so close to the launch(2 weeks) and AMD hits a delay is not likely to happen.
05-22-2011, 02:38 AM
Macadamia

Wait till Computex. I have a tingling suspicion that it's actually delayed (a bit) though, as Anand himself hints as such. Probably late June reviews?
05-22-2011, 02:40 AM
informal

Technically whole June is still Q2 so if it launches in June,even on the last day it fits with the roadmap :). Macadamia, did Anand hint in some article or in comments section?
05-22-2011, 02:44 AM
muziqaz

Maybe they cannot iron out that 990 chipset bug they were talking about in one of the conference calls? As I doubt they would have CPUs in trouble.
05-22-2011, 02:49 AM
jimbo75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macadamia

Wait till Computex. I have a tingling suspicion that it's actually delayed (a bit) though, as Anand himself hints as such. Probably late June reviews?

Where did Anand hint at this?
05-22-2011, 03:49 AM
Dimitriman

You mean Anand the site that is not pro intel at all?
05-22-2011, 04:30 AM
Macadamia

http://twitter.com/#!/anandshimpi/st...66600668758016

Don't read too much into it (like the clockspeed slide omfg), just my speculation that they don't have FX chips yet, only Llano ones.
05-22-2011, 04:42 AM
muziqaz

It does look like, AMD is not telling him anything, and he is just guessing as much as we are :D
But when you think of it, it is highly unlikely to have BD launched in two weeks, as we haven't heard anything from AMD about shipping. Unless they are doing paper launch.
05-22-2011, 05:36 AM
FlanK3r

better paperlaunch (for reviews) than nothing
05-22-2011, 06:37 AM
Formula350

I'm going to have to check my desktop computer (which is in sleep mode) to see for sure, but... I was pppretty darn certain I replied with my guesses on the ASUS slide about clock speeds >_> If I did, then for some reason it got deleted:confused::shrug:

Anyways, I came to talk about something else, but the talk on delays brings us something else I saw on the Wiki page too (yes, I take Wiki info with a grain of salt, don't worry haha).

First is all the Zambezi release dates are marked at June 20th, so that might be where the speculation is stemming from. Also after thinking about it, I guess I'm not totally sure if I ever read that AMD was releasing it on June 7th, but it may only have been said "debut". If that's the case then it could technically hit the market later on like said; not likely if you ask me.

The other part is where Wiki says, for Six and Quad cores, that they are "Native # core, with # cores disabled":confused: My understanding was "native" meant no compromises or whatnot have been made to make something. That would make VIA's latest Nano quad core "Native", when it has two physical dies on one chip (ala Intel Quad). So wouldn't that make it NOT a native design (for all three, AMD, VIA and Intel)? Or is my understanding of what Native implies not quite correct? :(

OH yea, and it's listing an HT of 3200MHz. I thought that the CPU-NB was running at 2600MHz on the desktop chips? While it generally doesn't work, I'm 95% sure (it was last year) I had my Athlon II X2 250u 1.6GHz running with a higher HT then NB speed, but it's pretty much common knowledge to not run the HT above NB speed due to the almost certain fact of instability. Anyways, more inaccuracies on the Wiki article's part, or more misunderstanding on my part? lol
Link to the Wiki

Now... time to go fire up the desktop and find my post that's MIA...

EDIT: Found my post, which I had posted, but still isn't here. I hit browser back and got it all (after taking a screenshot) and before I got around to submitting it my comp crashed haha Oh well, I got the screenshot at least! Still don't know why this got deleted or what have you (glitch in the Matrix?)
http://maxpain.lackeydom.net/MIA.png
05-22-2011, 09:04 AM
2good4you

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

The clock rates for the 8 core BD are not that high, in part because you can't achieve Turbo Core 2.0 levels, as posted here:

http://blogs.amd.com/work/files/2011...t-for-John.jpg

...without setting the stock speeds to a more conservative level. The above is a good representation of what the FX-8130P will be able to achieve in terms of Turbo Core.

Nothing says it must be the 8130P, maybe a lowe clocked model. With different stock frequencies, turbo mode is necessarily not 30% boost in freq on all models.
05-22-2011, 09:23 AM
soya_crack

Guys, may I interrupt your trash fanboy talk and ask when Interlagos is supposed to be released? (And is gonna hit retail market)

Soya
05-22-2011, 02:52 PM
andos

Quote:

Originally Posted by soya_crack

Guys, may I interrupt your trash fanboy talk and ask when Interlagos is supposed to be released? (And is gonna hit retail market)

Soya

Q3 supposedly.
05-22-2011, 03:03 PM
Sn0wm@n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie FX

It will be that stupid unsubstantiated rumour by a guy from an English site who claims to have a Bulldozer.
He won't say anything either, funny about that.

I've been searching all day in an attempt to confirm this "rumour" and can't find a thing. I'm hardly surprised.
It originated here.
http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread.php?t=26041&page=60

If AMD had a showstopper which is the only thing that would stop the launch now then they would be legally obliged to inform stock markets etc immediately.
It would be all over the internet like wildfire.

thanks for the info
05-22-2011, 03:28 PM
demonkevy666

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

thanks for the info

I've always thought llano would come before bulldozer.
05-22-2011, 04:39 PM
Sn0wm@n

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

I've always thought llano would come before bulldozer.

was the post you quoted of mine linked in any direction towards that in any way???
05-22-2011, 10:50 PM
mAJORD

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Originally Posted by Warwian

w0mbat posted this ASUS-slide in the "Preliminary Bulldozer and Llano Pricing Revealed"-thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=32) which I thought was interesting.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1305925796

Now as I said in that thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...6&postcount=37) I tried to figure out the frequencies that he had censored.

And as no one in that thread seemed interested I thought I'd try to post it here. Anyone have any idea what the slide says?
When I zoomed in and studied the pixels it looks like the FX-8110 has a stock frequency of 3.6 GHz and a maximum frequency of 4.0 GHz through AMD's Turbo CORE. The FX-8130P is harder to make out but it looks to have a stock frequency of 3.8 GHz and a maximum frequency of 4.2 GHz through AMD's Turbo CORE.

Anyone have any other ideas? Or is this old news? I haven't seen the slide anywhere else and I thought it'd be interesting to try and figure out the actual frequencies.

I've had a close look too.. I think the Top bin is 3.2Ghz

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2034/bd22.png

I pulled a 2 over from another part of the image. If you look at the areas i've circled, they match, and line up (also lines up on the x axis though I didn't show it)
05-22-2011, 11:02 PM
Hornet331

^

quite possible, with TC it still would be 3,7ghz (if it is 500mhz).

edit: played around a bit with the TC freq. and it seems the first one is a 9... but its kinda strange 900mhz would make sense (its 4,1ghz for st apps), but then theres only space for 2 numbers and there a G at the end... and the last number seems to either be a 2 or 7...

9,2 or 9,7 ghz doesn't make much sense.... ;)

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05-23-2011, 12:31 AM
undone

Charlies & JF-AMD hinted it was a fake.
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showt...t=4695&page=94
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showp...&postcount=938
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showp...&postcount=940

So.......everybody pls keep calm & wait.

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