P55-UD6 socket burn

From what I'm reading, this seems to be a problem with both socket types 1156 and 1366. None of you are considering that Intel may be at fault here partly in the materials they're using on their processors. Pads being ripped off the chips is extremely disturbing considering that this has never happened to me even when I have ripped out inadvertently pinned chips while the socket was still locked (chip glued to heatsink with dried paste).

I used to be devoted to AMD, recently I've taken a keen interest in Intel's stuff because of lack of true SSE4 with AMD's stuff, but now I have to strongly consider getting an AMD platform for my new rig.

No one has reported any sort of problem like this with their pin schema.

In general I think Intel's idea of offloading the responsibility of damaged CPUs to the motherboard manufacturer by making the chips pinless was a low blow to the already struggling PC motherboard industry. Abit is already basically non-existent (Yes, I'm aware that they shot themselves in the foot with substandard capacitors) and now there is this debacle.

Well I haven't heard much lately concerning socket burn, maybe some things have been rectified. Also don't believe everything you read as some users try to cover up for their errors :p

Guys,

This problem persist... it's not was solved for the new rev. of motherboards/cpu socket?

Now, interested to buy a new Core i5 MoBo. But only if this issue was solved.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by So_BAD

Guys,

This problem persist... it's not was solved for the new rev. of motherboards/cpu socket?

Now, interested to buy a new Core i5 MoBo. But only if this issue was solved.

Thanks!

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are you going to run high vcore and ln2?

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Originally Posted by Hondacity

are you going to run high vcore and ln2?

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What are You mean when You say high vcore ? My asus was burned with only 1.4v and no ln2/dry ice. So new 1156 user must run setup with vcore lower than 1.35 :P

I think in all new revision of asus, gb, msi this problem was solved. But maybe no ... We will see.

high vcore = 2v

@Hondacity
The vcore is not the problem. I've ran one setup under DICE with high vcore and vtt and everything went well. But what happened? I have ran it on air and I've got burned pins. Asking why? Answer is - cooler pressure and I guess that's the only reason for getting such a problems. When I OCed that setup without mounting kit everything was ok but after installing the mounting kit the problem has come.

Ouch, I should have read all this before buying my i5 setup.

Basically I decided to do more research after seeing my asus p7p55d-E has a foxconn socket and bracket (unlike what reviewers have said). Was trying to find out if foxconn have revised their socket so new foxconn is ok now or not, otherwise I think its very bad showing from the likes of asus and intel to continue to sell a problematic hardware platform. I compared my bracket to the pictures showed and it matches the bracket on the burned socket. This is on asus new 2nd gen p55 board.

However I take heart from the UK poster who pointed out that in the UK during the first 6 months the retailer has to prove end user fault to deny a waranty claim. So because of this will likely proceed with installing my i5. I plan to o/c but only on stock voltages. Also I did buy a 3rd party heatsick/fan but it seems now its reccomended to use the stock fan?

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Ouch, I should have read all this before buying my i5 setup.

Basically I decided to do more research after seeing my asus p7p55d-E has a foxconn socket and bracket (unlike what reviewers have said). Was trying to find out if foxconn have revised their socket so new foxconn is ok now or not, otherwise I think its very bad showing from the likes of asus and intel to continue to sell a problematic hardware platform. I compared my bracket to the pictures showed and it matches the bracket on the burned socket. This is on asus new 2nd gen p55 board.

However I take heart from the UK poster who pointed out that in the UK during the first 6 months the retailer has to prove end user fault to deny a waranty claim. So because of this will likely proceed with installing my i5. I plan to o/c but only on stock voltages. Also I did buy a 3rd party heatsick/fan but it seems now its reccomended to use the stock fan?

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The revised Foxconn socket has been qualified by us, Intel and many others now. To date, there have not been any reported issues with this setup. Believe me, I tried for socket burn based on our original tests and the sockets held up fine. That said if you want to create a socket burn situation with any of the sockets, it is possible but then you are probably running stupid levels of VCore and VTT through the system for a one shot screenshot.

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without mounting kit everything was ok but after installing the mounting kit the problem has come.

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But, which mounting kit? You mean with original backplate? I'm not understand, sorry.

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Foxconn says... blah blah

My P55A-UD7 sample disagrees though ( occured on air cooled [ Ultra-120 Extreme ] Core i3 540 @ 1.3V @ 4GHz running Vantage )...

http://i48.tinypic.com/2n4par.jpg

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Originally Posted by bingo13

The revised Foxconn socket has been qualified by us, Intel and many others now. To date, there have not been any reported issues with this setup. Believe me, I tried for socket burn based on our original tests and the sockets held up fine. That said if you want to create a socket burn situation with any of the sockets, it is possible but then you are probably running stupid levels of VCore and VTT through the system for a one shot screenshot.

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interestingly I found this.

http://www.intel.com/support/process.../CS-030850.htm

Seems this socket is very easy to damage such as dropping the cover in place instead of placing it carefully. I will inspect my socket as this intel guide says before I try to use it, and hopefully all my pins are fine before installation.

Is there a reason why pins are now in the socket instead of the processor? it seems the old system was much safer and robust to damage.

Can I ask how do I know if I have the revised socket? is it a certianty having brought a 2nd gen p55 board?

BenchZowner sh.t man, sorry!
I'll wait for SB:(

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Originally Posted by quintus

BenchZowner sh.t man, sorry!
I'll wait for SB:(

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The LOTES socket seems to be fine for me.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

interestingly I found this.

http://www.intel.com/support/process.../CS-030850.htm

Seems this socket is very easy to damage such as dropping the cover in place instead of placing it carefully. I will inspect my socket as this intel guide says before I try to use it, and hopefully all my pins are fine before installation.

Is there a reason why pins are now in the socket instead of the processor? it seems the old system was much safer and robust to damage.

Can I ask how do I know if I have the revised socket? is it a certianty having brought a 2nd gen p55 board?

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Cheaper for Intel to make CPU's with pads instead of pins. No electrical improvement, usually worse..

Well before I proceed I may post a pic.

the asus rep I see didnt post again. Some updates here.

1 - I checked the pins before installation all look correct.
2 - I checked again the bracket and socket to the pics posted here, and it matches the foxconn on the burnt socket (if its revised I dont see it).
3 - I have now installed the cpu and it looks unbalanced, the right bit on the bracket that sticks in has good contact with the cpu, but the left bit is barely covering the cpu which would indicate unbalanced cpu fitting in the socket, this is not something I can adjust as the bracket is lined up with the screw at the front inside the gap on the bracket. I have not installed a fan yet so I can I guess take the cpu out to check if all pads have contact but if its going to fail it will fail either way.

STEvil if its only for cost reasons then I think its clear intel have balls'ed up here, pins going into holes in a socket is a massive improvement over this.

are all reported burnouts on the left side of the socket? as to me the left side of the bracket looks to be a manufacturing process defect.

got my system posted outside of a case, seems I cant test all 4 ram slots without 4 sticks of ram tho, the ram failure light came on using 3rd and 4th slots but it seems when only 2 dimms by design only the first 2 slots will work.

cpu temp in bios seems high compared to my overclocked core2duo, 38C idle on a i5 750 using a arctic freezer 7 pro v2. we in summer but right now its 4am here.

I will leave it running for an hour or so and then this weekend prep my pc for the change as need to backup some files etc. ready for windows reinstall and mb swap.

one thing odd is when I turn it on, it comes on for 1 sec and then goes off again and then comes on again, is this normal for p55 boards? although since this thread is primarily for gigabyte ud6 and burning sockets I will post the question in a new thread if noone here knows. :)

also the pics of cpu in socket and bracket down are on my phone but until I find a usb cable or bluetooth dongle I cant get them on the pc, but will post asap so people can compare to gen1 socket pictures.

ok I attached a drawing now of what I mean.

color code is as follows.

Black area is bracket that covers socket.
Green area is motherboard circuitry around socket which is not covered, to me seemed unusual. On pics of lotes brackets that isnt exposed.
Blue is outer part of cpu
Yellow is raised inner part of cpu where thermal contact is made with heatsink.

The bit on the left where the black is further out is deliberate and is what my socket looked like with the bracket down, the left part of the bracket/clamp was barely on the cpu and my guess is as a result the left part of the cpu will have weaker contact.

On a video I watched below with a 1366 lotes socket the problem is not there and the bracket covers both sides of cpu evenly.

http://www.mindbites.com/lesson/7272...er-7-pro-rev-2

I repeat that I have a 2nd gen asus p7p55d-E not a first gen p55 board, the pictures I took I deliberatly show the board model printed on the board conveniantly just below the cpu socket so it will be proven, I will get them online asap but need to get a usb cable first to transfer the pics to my pc. Some may argue only the premium/pro boards should have proper sockets but I disagree, asrock is asus budget brand, not asus. The higher boards are for features not quality.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

are all reported burnouts on the left side of the socket? as to me the left side of the bracket looks to be a manufacturing process defect.

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Nope left and right as far as I know...

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Nope left and right as far as I know...

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well it may be that this uneven bracket is not a problem, but it certianly doesnt look right when in place.

I have now found a pic of a p7p55d-e premium using foxconn, however the bracket appears more central and not showing circuity outside the socket when down, there is no cpu fitted tho so harder to compare but it doesnt look like its too far to the left like mine is.

I have my system running now and so far appears ok, no stress tests ran yet tho but windows was left running whilst I slept and was fine when I woke up. bingo13 if I scared you off sorry :)

I obviously had concerns over my socket with the uneven bracket but ultimately if its stable thats what counts.

well bad news guys its not stable for me and ram does pass memtest86. if I cant fix it via software changes I guess I will be having a look at the state of my socket and cpu.

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Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Foxconn says... blah blah

My P55A-UD7 sample disagrees though ( occured on air cooled [ Ultra-120 Extreme ] Core i3 540 @ 1.3V @ 4GHz running Vantage )...

http://i48.tinypic.com/2n4par.jpg

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Fortunately, I finally canceled the order for this MOBO long ago

This is worrisome. I have two motherboards, one Biostar TH55B HD and Gigabyte H55M-S2H, and the gigabyte has the foxconn socket. I have a i3-530 in the biostar motherboard and am planning to put in a i7-860 in the gigabyte. Both system will be pushed daily at 3.8-4.0 Ghz overclock, with short benching session at 4.8Ghz or beyond.

Do I have to worry about this issue, especially since I see some people in this thread have socket burns from a i3 and I am planning to put in a i7-860?

ok I now know I can send pics from my phone to email, so I am sending it now but its taking ages. isnt a 3g phone. I will edit it on to this post when its done.

my board seems stable now at least but I will still post the pic so others can see what I meant on the socket.

You can see pictures earlier in thread of socket clips with offset marks as well. Its poor design for sure.

If you connect your phone to your computer through USB it will be a lot faster and cheaper than emailing the pictures to yourself.