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05-03-2007, 07:34 AM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

But the 8800GTX aint 178W..its far far from it.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...roundup_6.html

The TDP is 177W according to NV. In use at stock its been measured at a lot less. A reasonable OC then maybe it gets to 150W.
05-03-2007, 07:40 AM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

But the 8800GTX aint 178W..its far far from it.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...roundup_6.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by fornowagain

The TDP is 177W according to NV. In use at stock its been measured at a lot less. A reasonable OC then maybe it gets to 150W.

As said it has a TDP of that much. While it might use less currently we aren't sure if it will use more for DX10 apps or not either.
05-03-2007, 08:34 AM
fornowagain

About the PSU, here

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibbo

Hi there

Our system had an Enermax 1000W PSU.

I have the ATI Tech/Fact sheet here so upto 200W is requirement at stock clocks with 2x6pin connectors.

If overclocking then you need 1x8pin and 1x6pin connected and then it consumes upto 225W.

I hope ATI don't bash me for stating this but I don't want misleading information such as that going around.

Fact is a decent quality 400-500W PSU will run of these cards fine if your running a Core 2 DUO system or Athlon X2 based system. :)

here

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibbo

Hi there

Also regarding this 100c nonsence.

This is making my blood boil now.

AMD/ATI let me tell these guys the real facts about this card because the utter crap on the internet is literally that, CRAP!

The card is quiet, in fact its more or less silent even after a good gaming session. It also stays in the 70c-80c under full load whilst overclocked and still remains quiet.

At stock speeds its generally around the 60c-70c mark and the heatsink does not burn to the touch like an 8800GTX or X1950 XTX, so the card can be handled even after a mad benchmarking session.
05-03-2007, 09:15 AM
GMX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie P

Did I say I was ignoring aging? No. I was just saying that there's no need to make as much of a point of it as you seem to suggest.

As for the AXP overclock, can you prove it was the PSU at fault? Possibility it could have been the mobo, or CPU? How can you be sure? And also, I think you're kidding yourself if you think the TP 480w was anything other than a 'budget' PSU in the first place.

Back on subject, I really don't think that the power consumption of the 2900XT is gonna as shocking as is being made out. And, if it's because of the extra stress DX10 puts on the card, I wouldn't be surprised if the 8800GTX's power consumption goes up a bit as well with the DX10 usage.

Final point, I want independant benches!! :fact:

Umm 3 years ago no it wasn't budget. ANd to prove it's PSU? Easy, because a new Tagan i had spare does the job like before.
05-03-2007, 10:01 AM
wickedld9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

Did you have a 2.8Ghz Opteron in 2004?

No, I had a 2.8GHz A64 4000+. EE 3.46 was the fastest Intel. Since when did this become a discussion about 2004?

Back on the real topic!! TDP is up to 177w. That xbit setup isn't close to pushing a GTX.
05-03-2007, 10:02 AM
FghtinIrshNvrDi

I wouldn't doubt the 100*C thing. My x1950xt runs routinely at 80 while folding, and above that when doing 3dmark06.

Ryan
05-03-2007, 10:09 AM
deathman20

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...4&postcount=20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom|Nbk

This is a load of shens, Kombatant an actual AMD employee has posted that the 750w statement is totally BS

Links -
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost...&postcount=338
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost...&postcount=343

and some more speculation that the AMD slide/information Fuad has is fake things just arn't adding up with it.
05-03-2007, 10:28 AM
mascaras

my friend tested x2900xt on gamexstream 600wts ;)

btw:

Quote:

AMD GPU Clock Tool - Works on R600 !

Ever since R600 samples were handed out by AMD, people have been asking me for R600 support in ATITool. It's coming along nicely, but is not quite ready yet.
In the meantime you can use this nifty little tool from AMD. It can change 2D/3D clocks and lets you monitor temperatures of the card. It also works on RV610, RV630 and all previous products. It works under 2k, XP, Vista, 32-bit & 64-bit.

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/07-05-03/tool1_thm.gif http://www.techpowerup.com/img/07-05-03/tool2_thm.gif

Download (440 KB)

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=30555

regards
05-03-2007, 10:33 AM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by mascaras

my friend tested x2900xt on gamexstream 600wts ;)

btw:

regards

It is very nice he is running his sample at 1000MHz core / 1000MHz RAM :D
Check the pictures :rolleyes:

About Fudzilla 100C 2900XT card:

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorWang(translated...)
- 28°C room
- 58°C idle
- 60°C 3sec after benchmark
- 52°C case or card-ambient after hours of oc-tests

http://we.pcinlife.com/viewthread.ph...#pi d14366626
05-03-2007, 10:36 AM
biohead

right when I read fuad's 750w statement I knew it was a bunch of bull. I could've made that picture too.

about overclocking the card -- do you seriously need an 8pin pcie connector?? I don't see how my 12V's 56A (total - in other words: more than enough) is going to run any different through 6pins than through 8pins.
05-03-2007, 11:02 AM
perkam

Sampsa has one, as do many, but he is first to make a thread.

Please subscribe: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=142955

Perkam
05-03-2007, 11:31 AM
XeRo

Who ever is around the San francisco area could try to sneak into this?
05-03-2007, 12:08 PM
end3rkid

ATI X2900XT running HL2 Ep. 2

http://img5.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/.../000475039.jpg
Fullscreen: http://img2.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/.../000475039.jpg

http://img5.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/.../000475040.jpg
Fullscreen: http://img2.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/.../000475040.jpg

Source:
http://www.pcpop.com/doc/0/192/192401.shtml
05-03-2007, 12:14 PM
deathman20

Sweet Portal SS's :) I really can't wait for this to come out. The new multi-threading in the engine, particle effects, and the 3 games. One that has been on talks for years TF2. Ah the good old days of TFC's, can't wait.
05-03-2007, 12:22 PM
Kasparz

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Sampsa has one, as do many, but he is first to make a thread.

Please subscribe: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=142955

Perkam

Remembered Sampsa's first 1Ghz GPU clocks on R520. This gonna be interesting. Sampsa know his business ;)
05-03-2007, 01:13 PM
MoTiG

R.I.P. Official K10 Roadmap thread :(
05-03-2007, 01:31 PM
DeathReborn

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathman20

Sweet Portal SS's :) I really can't wait for this to come out. The new multi-threading in the engine, particle effects, and the 3 games. One that has been on talks for years TF2. Ah the good old days of TFC's, can't wait.

Portal does look pretty good but those cellshaded graphics in TF2 gets a resounding :nono: from me. I'm hoping for Ep2 to last a lot longer than Ep1 but Portal is where the real fun will be.

The engine updates are long overdue but do look pretty good.
05-03-2007, 03:17 PM
dragonhunter

Why is Fudzilla always post all the BAD things about the R600XT?
Is Fudzilla the AMD/ATI's enemy or something?
05-03-2007, 06:22 PM
bluep3ace

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonhunter

Why is Fudzilla always post all the BAD things about the R600XT?
Is Fudzilla the AMD/ATI's enemy or something?

i thought he used to love them, now he's the world' biggest hater.
05-03-2007, 06:56 PM
7he ]-[0rr0r

It seems to me like Nvidia maybe setting selves up for a fall even if they have a slightly faster card if all this pricing is true and ati ahas stock and they don't, even if nvidia responds to the pricing many users won't forget their greedy cash grab. That said of course for many on this forum the fastest card rules regardless.
05-03-2007, 07:07 PM
GMX

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonhunter

Why is Fudzilla always post all the BAD things about the R600XT?
Is Fudzilla the AMD/ATI's enemy or something?

browse his forum. Apparently some kind of relationship with nvidia has formed (welcomes them)

He just writes to crap for funding. That's my belief.
05-03-2007, 07:16 PM
Think

Quote:

Originally Posted by end3rkid

ATI X2900XT running HL2 Ep. 2

http://img5.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/.../000475039.jpg
Fullscreen: http://img2.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/.../000475039.jpg

http://img5.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/.../000475040.jpg
Fullscreen: http://img2.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/.../000475040.jpg

Source:
http://www.pcpop.com/doc/0/192/192401.shtml

Wow - it looks like the PS3:slapass:
05-03-2007, 09:05 PM
Brother Esau

So where are these cards at?
05-03-2007, 09:10 PM
onethreehill

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJ

Just got word that the HIS HD2900XT will run at 750Mhz core and 850Mhz mem.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=4281
05-03-2007, 10:31 PM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonhunter

Why is Fudzilla always post all the BAD things about the R600XT?
Is Fudzilla the AMD/ATI's enemy or something?

He writes crap and ubergood things about everything. First R600 was a godsend product, then crap etc. He tries to get so many clicks as possible with his "sensational" journalism.

Its simply a place to ignore completely. I dont think he is biased, he is just stupid+greedy.

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