510W PC Power & Cooling SLI psu or 650W Silverstone SLI psu
under loaded it was pretty steady for either psu with initial drop in 12v rail under load but steady once dropped...
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510W PC Power & Cooling SLI psu or 650W Silverstone SLI psu
under loaded it was pretty steady for either psu with initial drop in 12v rail under load but steady once dropped...
Your running just a single card or sli/xfire?
Trying to figure out what kinda load your putting on that to need such a hefty supply?
Time to test mine and see if i need something more beefy.
single X1800XT @816/981 with gpu at 1.575v and mem underclocked 1.985v with watercooling which is the only thing in my rig able to push my 1KW psu's 12v rail down from 12.19v to 12.15v while under load! cpu dual core @2.9ghz at 1.6v 12v rail is steady at 12.19v
also have 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX SLI @558/1386 stock heatsink air
3dmark05 = 12,111 single card
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...3_12111_tn.jpg
http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxm99/Opter...PMW_2/3277.png
suicide on water :)
What do you mean "or"? You were using both at different times and you still couldn't OC that high? It has been suggested that my modstream 520W is holding back the OC on my 170 0550upmw but i was pretty skeptical of that since I measured the rails etc and it appears to be rock solid. Very nice OC BTW.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
I was having the same power experience as eva, when I had the PCP&C 510 SLI my machine would reboot itself during prime @3.30Ghz, anything above 3.30Ghz will results instant bluescreen before the desktop load up. But now with the Zippy 700w....priming @3.30Ghz only result in one core error out but the other core kept going, and can boot straight into windows at 3.40Ghz so yea these Dual opty draw mucho power so a beefier powersupply is pretty much one of the major key for stability at high overclock. Cooling the pwmic area also help with stability big time as mine would get random prime error or game crashes if the pwmic get to around 65'C.
Hmmmm...5 skins for a PSU is a lot:hm:
5 skins?
You can get the 850ssi for $400.00.
I dont completely understand this, if your rails are solid under full load then your not being limited by psu?
If they flucuate its time for a new one?
My little 520 power stream powers everything in my rig, and under dual prime the 12v=12.05, 5v=5.05 and the others are dead on.
According to one of those sketchy psu calculators i need a 600watt psu for my rig. hmm
Finally had a bit time to tweak down the needed VCore for 10x300 on my Opteron 170 0550 VPMW ... 10x300@1,360V@h2o :woot:
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/2...99681du.th.jpg
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Thats some impressive stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
OMG..that is awesome:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
ohh my... im starting to get a little jealous :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
Max with that Chip so far is around 10x318@h2o :woot: ... so who needs a Vapo if you can reach that with h20 ? :banana:
Maybe i get a Titan 1500 chiller (to keep the water around 15c or so) and keep cpu temps low and also use the advantage of the lower watertemps for the rest of my setup. Chiller is usable 24/7 and can easy be used to cool down also chipset/gfx etc. :toast: Vapo is basically CPU only :nono: and the Cold-Bug is always around :eek: :eek: :eek: ....
that is magic Pete..........really good results
did you pop the IHS yet :p:
Nopes - IHS still were it was ... right now i prime 10x305@1,392 :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
:toast: :banana: :toast: :banana:
what are you waiting for..........pop it now :D
Just got my new CCB1E 0550 from ebay ($328 shipped!! you guys should have jumped on that!) It's looking much much better than my 0534, which I thought was already great to begin with (2700@1.475).
This one wouldn't do 2700 with 1.35v stock voltage, but it looks like it will do 297/298x9 at stock. I decided to try 2808MHz@1.4v, just failed after 3mins.. going to ~2770 now in clockgen. This one's looking great! all with Big typhoon air BTW
165? or 170
and umpw or vpmw
165 CCB1E 0550 VPMW. It was an OEM chip off ebay
I just rebooted and set 309x9 with 133 divider so it's at 2780MHz 1.40v set in BIOS. :woot: Priming it now!
I'm with you. They are completely stable at load, idle, etc. so I wouldn't expect it to be hurting my OC but Eva2000 sems to have benefited and his were prolly stable too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delirious
Not all Psu's are created equal ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FZ1
Any opty 180 result? What stepping?
I got my CCB1E 550 VPMW dual prime stable at 10x280 with 1.55v. Dunno if thats good or what. Seems avg to me:confused: .
Hey Pete@X those are fantastic results,
you German guys must be using some high powered pumps or/and are really lucky as you seem to consistantly be getting amazing chips! :slobber:
I have a question as I should be receiving my Opty 170 anytime soon (thanks XS member, u know who you are :)). When you use two prime95 to load the CPU, should they be showing loaded at 100% or 50%, because your screenshot has them loaded at 50%.
Hi,
I have an Opty 165
OSA165DAA6CD
CCBWE
0551VPMW
a DFI SLI-DR Expert and a corsair 2x1G 3500LLpro memory kit.
If i try to run 2 instances of superpi the second one crashed even at stock cpu/memory speed. I'm runing on water, asetek antarctica & 2xBlackIcePro.
Also when i start the second instace of prime95, even if i set the affinity, it still goes on the core on which the first instance is running.
I've runned SP2004 with small ffts and it was rock stable @ 2700 for over 12 hours.
If i run large ffts is just giving an error after 30-60 minutes.
How can i make superpi 1.4mod to run correctly?
because i think is not because of the processor?
anyone can help me please?
thanks in advance
expert AFAIK hate some ram and still buggy board...
In your case i believe that is a memory problems
@tgm: You must have 2 different copies of superpi in 2 separate folders. And for stability testing the best is to run Large/Blend test. I've read SP2004 stresses less than prime95. Someone reported his proc passes SP2004 but not prime...
Same thing happens with a Mushkin 2G XP4000 (not redline) memory kit ....
Corsair is infineon ce5 i think and the mushkin is samsung uccc.
If it's a memory problem i'll go try my corsair 4400c25pt (2x512m kit) which is samsung tccd.
Also i'll try to revert to the bios with which the board shipped with ...
if someoane else have any other ideas please feel free to tell me :)
thanks guys ...
nah only way to know if need more psu juice is if you are limited in oc'ing.. way i knew isQuote:
Originally Posted by Delirious
cpu oc'd to max = fine
sli cards oc'd to max = fine
cpu oc'd + sli cards co'd to max = need to drop max cpu clock speed
so i assume psu is limiting me and only way to confirm is get a new better psu .... confirmed my suspicions :D
Have you not had a dual core CPU before mongoled?Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
Anyway, Pete's setup is correct (there is actually no other way of doing it, even if you do mess around with affinity settings) and so both cores a fully utilised. It reads 50% because it's 50% of the entire CPU as it were - which means one core :)
Nope my first one should be here either today or some time next week :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
Thats not to say I havnt bought one, I have one in the UK with a friend of mine who is currently testing it. He is very happy with it, which is quite an accomplishment because he is not an easy person to impress! Tht duallie is doing 2750mhz with 1.41 (CPU-Z) on a XP120 low speed fan, the chip is a 0551WPMW. The one in the post is a 0550UPMW, will be keeping the best and selling the other (if the 0550 is better, i think my friend wants to keep the 0551, he is tht impressed)
Just a quote from his email
Cant wait to get one of theseQuote:
Originally Posted by mixx666
:toast:
Anyhow thanxs for clearing tht up for me, u probably have saved me a few hrs of frustration (well Pete@X has, hehehee)
If you can get anywhere an 170 Opteron CCB1E0550VPMW with 1387678 Wafercharge take them. Almost any CPU reach the 3,X Gig with 1,4-1,5Vc .
Batches are not important! Only Wafercharge and 170 and the CCB1E0550VPMW are counting!
http://www.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/GOBZN.jpg
Thats what i have, a ccb1e 550 vpmw 1387678 and it takes 1.55v to get 2.8ghz stable. I think the chip has potential, as it is core 0 that keeps failing while core1 keeps chugging. I really dont want to pop the top though. Also this is the highest batch numbered chip ive ever had, and it is the chip that is kind of dissappointing. Batch is 706.
Look Pete@X has several VPMWs and his 7XX Batch also takes the 3 Gig!
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...=203634&page=3
I have just tried to increase my Opteron 175 overclock by using my new 1 KW PCP&C instead of the OCZ 520W Powerstream.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
No change.
Will use different rails just for kicks but I don't think this will cut it.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1...01421vt.th.jpg
its for sale bcause i have a better one here (0550 vpmw)
Where are you guys getting you 170's from?
I hope you didn't just get that PSU to get a better OC :doh: Hopefully it gets better for you. I thought about getting one but then I thought it would be easier (and cheaper) to pick up a better chip and sell one.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by uOpt
brand new Opty 165
CCBWE 0548XPMW
130479AL50XXX
first boot...stock vcore :cool:
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/165%20....7%20stock.JPG
The 170CCB1E0550VPMW is getting better!
Now i need only 1,36Vc for the 3000Mhz under Windows.
http://www.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/GZ6K4.jpg
Is that stable though? My ccb1e can boot to windows at 3ghz with 1.4v but again, fails prime in 5 seconds.
prime @ ?
after i read this thread i still doubt why my opty 175 CCBWE 0550 VPMW only can hit 2.7 @1.56 vcore? since my new opty 170 CCB1E 0550 UPMW can hit 2.8Ghz @default vcore .. since i saw those of you have a nice overclocking with VPMW
hi guys on xs.
here are some results from little denmark.
opty 165@9x295@2660mhz@1,4375Vc Step CCBWE 0551VPMW
Dual Prime Stable 15hours
anything above even just a few mhz more and it wont run prime stable one of the core's crap out on any vc sad but true.:(
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=70747
Same Problem here Core0 strikes and Core 1 keep on chucking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hybrid
But my Temps with HS are too high. Everything is here Windows and Bench and gamestable. Only Prime fails on one Core0.
And thats still running under Windows.
http://www.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/HB3JN.jpg
Did you pop the top? I notice that this chip runs around 6c warmer than my 543tpmw at the same settings.
No Heatspreader is still on its Place on the DIe.
Simply, the 175 0550 U(V)PMW normally (stra) sucks...with the remarcable exception of Pete @ X that rather strangely, in disregard of the steppings and models, seems to be the only one in the world with the ability to pump whichever CPU to 3.0 Ghz, perhaps also that one of its toaster...Quote:
Originally Posted by ericware
I know that what I will say will be able to provoke some "hard" retort, but I don't care
It seems that AMD not pay too much attention to the people that spends hundreds of euro (or dollars) for "top" chip: to me it is clear that ALL the 170 0550 UPMW are a bomb (perhaps exists 1 on 100 that has the misfortune of having one and "must" be pleased with 2800~ only... :D ) when in the case of 165, same stepping, may be a bomb too or a real sucker like the 175, it's really a matter of :slapass:
It is also CLEAR that practically ALL the 175 0550 U(V)PMW are POOR: lot of people have trouble to pass the miserable 2500 climb, and with LOT of voltage the max is, as you have tasted, 2700...How you can explain this? ---> Obviously AMD don't select the "materia prima" nor the quality of assembly process in regarding of the selling price ---> this, to me, is not but ridicolous
The 175 cost 100+ Euro than a 170 :( ---> YES I hear the usual sages (from AMD?) that says "the chip run great @ stock clock so you cannot be complained..."
Ok they are right from a formal point of view, but MY point of view diverge a LOT from that: I can bet that half (the majority?) of Opteron that AMD have sold in the past 4 months are not running in workstations for the planning of spaceships but most likely in the "game room" of a rich child of 10 years or, if you prefer, on the desktop of some so-called "enthusiast" ---> DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT AMD DON'T KNOW THIS?
If they sold lot of Opteron I think is not due to their logo's appeal (maybe :D) but it is due to the ability of these CPU to satisfy demanding customers
NO ONE in this forum has acquired an Opteron to make it run @ stock clock, and the majority of the Opteron's owners in this forum has preferred this CPU over the X2 for the best ability (in media) to OC, we all know this ;)
Backing to the point I can conclude this way:
Being that all we know the factory specs of the CPU that we acquire, I think that AMD would have to change, at least in part, its attitude towards the "enthusiasts", not ignoring them (AMD can admit it or not, but they represent an important market if not the most important for their products, even more for their "serious" Opteron ;) ) but rather, openly coming encounter to the requirements, also proportionally to abilities to expense: I think that if I spend 800-1000 Euro for a 180+ I MUST obtain something more than the one that spend 500 euro for the 175 (and for more i don't mean a +1 in multi...:) ) ---> if I consider that every 165 (whichever stepping), costing nearly the half of a 175 can clock @ MINIMUM up to the 180 default clock there is something wrong to me.
The phisical limit for these CPU is about 3 Ghz (with "normal" cooling) and this is the real problem: it cannot exists the difference in performances that justifies the difference in price from the "low" to the "top" models ---> OK I hear "so simply buy the 165 dude!" but my point is another: I do not expect that AMD sells its products with the label "goes to 3Ghz" :D however, to me, seems reasonable that AMD reduces the prices in a way in compliance with the real differences in performance between the models or at least MUST put better effort and attention in the quality of materials and of the assembly line for "top" product that indeed have a "top" price
hardcore ocing people, like the ones in this forum, are a minority in comparison to everyone else that buys thier products. Alot of people dont even bother overclocking thier computer, so why should AMD start makeing sure that the higher models overclock more than the lesser ones?
Its not like you payed for x amount of speed and you got less than that.
i just got my 165 today, its a 0551VPMW, and so far its very frustrating. At first it was prime stable at 2700 w/ 1.52v. I ram prime for about 2 hours and then couldnt take it any longer and went to play some BF2 with my new X1900XT that i just got today too. I come back after playing for a few hours to run some more prime and one of the cores just takes a dump within 2 minutes. OK, i reboot and try again, it :banana::banana::banana::banana:s out in 1minute. I reboot and give her 1.55v, and it still poops out in 1 minute, WTF? Now i have to put it down to 2.6Ghz for it to be stable. I dunno what the heck happened. I remounted 5 different times using 2 different thermal pastes. It does run hotter than my 170 did though. Even under high end water it hits 40C under load at 2600 1.49v. It seems like it REALLY would help to strip it down to bare core although unlike my 170 this is a retail CPU and i have an actual decent warranty.
EDIT: I realized that my instability started when i flashed my X1900XT to XTX. Maybe its drawing more power and causing the OC to become unstable? I ordered a 170, and for now its at 1.44v 2600 and running 24C idle 37C load. I notice that at 1.47v 2700 is more stable than 1.53v. Maybe im stressing my PSU out too much...
Decided to test this 170 on air and here is what I got :D :D
2.90Ghz @1.4v (BIOS 1.42v)
IHS is off, room temperature 70~71F', case is fully closed. Not sure why my PWMIC is hot as hell even with copper ramsinks on the pwmic chip, R60, and all the hotspots, have a 90mm fan blowing across the ram and the PWMIC area as well. Chipset fan is also replaced with the copper VC-RE. I'm pretty satisfied with the good ol' air result. :D :toast:
Well done on your OC Ben why don't you run Prime a bit longer 53 minutes is hardly proveing a stable OC, 1 hour primeing just gives you indications of what the chip "could" do and not what it really does. Do you go for benching instead of daily use stable?Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
my PWMIC also gets very hot with the Opteron not upto 70 but close.
Komplett.no got some 170`s right now.. Think i sell my 175 0550 and se if the 170 can do 2.8 stable.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rapty
Everyone has different preferences in overclocking, it's a lengthy process with lots of other tweaking and factors involved, but long story short, for me...once I found the lowest vcore that could cause and trigger the prime to failed within the 20min windows, usually all it needs is an additional 0.05v vcore along with few other changes, 10 out of 10 times I can prime atleast 12hr straight, and hours of BF2, Quake4 and FEAR afterward, if I'm only interested in benching then I would of leave it at 3.0Ghz @1.35~1.375v instead. So you're wrong, 2.90Ghz is what it does, NOT what it "could" do. I have no intention whatsoever to leave it on air, I did it out of curiousity so once I'm done playing with it then this puppy will crawl back under the phase and will be clocked back up to 3.20Ghz @1.52v for 24/7, I could careless IF this cpu can only prime at 2.1Ghz or 2.2Ghz on air as I had already knew what it did under single stage phase. :D :D
By the way, Prime is hardly the only indication of stability, just head toward the Bandwidth section and do some reading on all those Ce6 memory threads, you can prime all day all night long or even weeks or months straight, but if you can't run any 3D or game, then all bet is lost :lol: so "stability" really depends on what you use your machine for.
woot!! amazing chip u have there. check your PM!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
If you read with attention my statement above, you will able to understand that i'm NOT expecting that "...AMD start makeing sure that the higher models overclock more than the lesser ones?" but I think it's absolutely LOGICAL and more suited to basical law of market to use BETTER materials and BETTER productive process for the high priced models, so what i say is NOT directly related to OC matter ---> if you want, you can call this a question of principle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delirious
That's all
I think my 170 its a "normal" 170 :p:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6...rime2855nq.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
Try lowering your voltage rather than raising it. It could be a heat problem... I just had a 165 that ran almost 10 degrees warmer than any other opty I owned
Ya...this Dual-Core Opterons are very hot :confused:
Are batch numbers related to steppings? IE, I just got a 0551UPMW 0324.. so does that mean its earlier than my 0551VPMW 0671?
Batch is in second Line important!
1. Stepping CCB1E0550VPMW is very important
2. Wafercharge>1378678L505XX<3.Batch.
You need first the right Steppingweek, than the right Wafercharge!!!
And after all the Batch in the Area of a known good going CHip.
Batch is only Luck.
:idea: What would a fan blowing on it do for the almost 70 temps?Quote:
Originally Posted by rapty
You have to put an 120MM Fan over your Mosfets.
Best Fan is an Silenx ixtrema Pro with 63cfm/h at 14db noise.
Like this one.
http://www.alphacool.de/xt/product_i...&cPath=6_80_86
[QUOTE=ben805]Everyone has different preferences in overclocking, it's a lengthy process with lots of other tweaking and factors involved, but long story short, for me...once I found the lowest vcore that could cause and trigger the prime to failed within the 20min windows, usually all it needs is an additional 0.05v vcore along with few other changes, 10 out of 10 times I can prime atleast 12hr straight, and hours of BF2, Quake4 and FEAR afterward, if I'm only interested in benching then I would of leave it at 3.0Ghz @1.35~1.375v instead. So you're wrong, 2.90Ghz is what it does, NOT what it "could" do. I have no intention whatsoever to leave it on air, I did it out of curiousity so once I'm done playing with it then this puppy will crawl back under the phase and will be clocked back up to 3.20Ghz @1.52v for 24/7, I could careless IF this cpu can only prime at 2.1Ghz or 2.2Ghz on air as I had already knew what it did under single stage phase. :D :D
lol your 23min prime theory won't be understood by anyone new or "outside" your head thank you for explaining whats the Batch No 408?
Rapty Prime should heat minimum 2-3hours.
http://www.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/J7OMV.jpg
Rufus, if you've read any of my post, you know I really don't like to prime. One hour is more than enough for me. However, I have my 170 on a BT testing it and just for my EU friends I will let it run a little longer. Will 2.5hours suffice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufus7
BTW(s7e9h3n is teaching me what all these letters mean) I can not afford a $27+ fan to blow on my mb.:(
dogsx2 for me its equal what your testing.
But here at HWLXX Forum you´ve got to make Dualprime 24.14 over 3H to get into the List.
But of Course it is sufficent with 2 Hours. Most Errors are coming in the first hour or first 30Mins.
Than you can take an Scythe 120Fan costs only 15 Dollars.
http://www.pc-cooling.de/de/SILENT-P...+-+120+mm.html
in my system there are 6 Silenx working at 12V.
Here's what I've got my CCB1E 0550 running for now.. 1.4v set in BIOS. I'm very very happy with this chip! :D Got it OEM off ebay a week ago. The prime times are different because core 0 failed at 308 after a couple hours, I set 306.5 :rolleyes: in clockgen and started it again.
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4619/27581402zv.th.jpg
Rufus, 6 fans????? I'm German/American and only can afford a cheap 120 Y/L fan. What is the link for that forum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufus7
your own thread "Prime stable but not game stable" pretty much explained why you don't understand, as I said.... priming isn't the only indication of stability and there's lots of other factors involved in overclocking. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by rapty
Thats the Link for the fan how it lokks like and how much it costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
The Link for the HWLXX Forum you will get now.
4 Fans on the 2 Black Ice Extreme II Dual Radiators and 2 Silenx Fans in the Case.
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=203634
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=204404
Repoman Nice VPMW.
But you will see if you use the 180 or 166 Ramdivider it will run with less Vcore or one Core will not Suck down under Prime.
Maybe im not understanding u correctly, but from what i get it seems your saying that when u buy a 175 that they dont run at the rated speed? Cause thats really all amd cares about, and logically thats all they should. It would cost them alot more in testing to figure out what every core was fully capable of and use those in the higher models, versus just makeing sure they do the speed that they are labled to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by OTT
Well decided to do some burn in and longer run dual prime sessions with lower volts and looks good to me still with 170 0546XPMW
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...prime_1_tn.jpg
Well maybe you could add to my thread instead of being a Defensive ignorant when your asked questions, your not the only one which can Overclock a computer but you carry on like you can. and giveing a one sided story & brining up problems which was'nt included in the initial question is childish and pathetic its just a easy way of beating someone down and winning something which I'm not even competeing in your one of those point scorers only one sided disscusions that are meaningless for the other party & can offend some individuals or I could be wrong and your a young adolescence. Now if you want a sensible discussion please answer my question to you about the batch or better yet you could help me with my overclock instead of laying into me with pathetic innuendo's.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Otherwise bring it and handbags at dawn.
In the words of the famous man from MaxxxRacer's home town:
"Can't we all just get along?"
:gay:Quote:
Otherwise bring it and handbags at dawn
Yeah but if your CPU is NOT prime stable for over 23/53mins :slapass: the chanche of failing in game is way higher than when prime stable for 12hrs. But lets not continue this discussion overhere...:nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Yes ChkDsk youre right.
No useless discussions. System must be Gamestable and Primestable.
And if you are a lot of Benching than you have to be Benchstable.
The decision have to make someone für himself.
Prime only shows you that the Chip is stable but not your whole System.
looking good al those VPMW's, but is there someone that has one with aircooling?
Finally hit 2800, but took 1.55v :(
Dual prime ran for 10 hours before i stoped it.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...sloan/2800.jpg
very nice Delirious, what is the stepping for that chip
Similar to mine... I've got an 0550UPMW, you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delirious
anyone got anymore on the 0551VPMW, I have mine running at 2.4Ghz at stock volts, if I raise the volts to around 1.4 I can boot into windows at 2.7Ghz
but anything past that and it is not stable at all
don't really want to raise the volts more as I am in need of some better cooling
thanks, its a 0546mpmwQuote:
Originally Posted by payne280
the only person being defensive is you, I merely trying to explained why I did what I did and you were the one trying to teach me how long I should run prime and and how people won't understand "outside of my head", I do not see any part of my replies being offensive so don't blame me for your insecurity and ignorance. As for the batch# if you're willing to do a search you would of found what it is as I had already posted it many times in different threads, same as learning how to overclock properly or why you can prime but can't game and if you're willing to do a search there are plenty of guide and answers all over the place but looks like you're simply too LAZY to use the search function, and prefer to be spoonfed instead :stick: for a newbie you sure have a mouthful....keep up with all these name calling and we'll see how many people willing to help you and how far you get with this kind of attitude :slapass: :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by rapty
This is my last reply to you as you said it's a senseless discussion so good luck with your overclock :rolleyes:
very nice XPMW you got there eva, is the IHS still on? :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Well decided to do some burn in and longer run dual prime sessions with lower volts and looks good to me still with 170 0546XPMW
Thats the stepping thats coming my way this week,hope it turns out as well as yours:)
This is going to be my 24/7 chip.Please pray for me :D
QUESTION:
I'm having a lot of problems with the DRAM Drive strength and DRAM Drive Data strength. I'm using a 2x1gb kit of g.skill HZ. What should i put the DRAM Drive strength and DRAM Drive data strength at? In my bios (704-2bta), the only options that i have are DRAM drive strength going from weak1, normal1, weak2, normal2, etc going up to normal4, and for DRAM Drive Data strength all i have is options 1,2 and 3. any help? is it that weak 1 = 1, normal 1 = 2, weak 2 = 3, normal 2 = 4, etc? someone please help!
Quote:
Originally Posted by terrordemon
I'm running the HZ as well, try leave them on Auto...that's what I use on air, when I was running phase change I use drive strength 7(weak4) and data strength 2, 704-2BTA bios work, but for me the 623-3 allow higher stable overclock even with the exact same timing.
yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrordemon
the reason why i'm asking is because i'm wondering if its that that is holding my oc back. should i try on 7/2? 7/3? what should i try
there is no dobut the ram setting can make a big difference but with that said it seems once the dual core chip hits its peak there is nothing that seems to helpQuote:
Originally Posted by terrordemon
I will not go much over 1.5v...since the SLI DR mobos overvolt with load and my 170 just will not go much higher than 2700..I have not tried like 2710..2720 as there is no real adv to waste time on that IMHO
i saw somewhere some guy posting how fixing his drive data strength allowed him to oc around 200/300mhz higher (he was held back at a low mhz also), so i wanna see if mine will have any effect
i dont think so, 200/300 mhz is alot.. the fastest way is that you loose up your timings and put ram on the 133 divider (or even 100) and then find your max oc for chip (so that u ar not limited with ram)..when u found it, then put up the divider and start playing with ram settings..Quote:
Originally Posted by terrordemon
but do you think my oc could be really limited that much by my memory? i'm basically trying to find out for sure if my chip is a dud or not
if u want to find out that quckliy, put your ram on the divider (make it run under specified frequency, so that u ar 100% sure is not ram related), and test the cpu..Quote:
Originally Posted by terrordemon
sorry for the double post but i'm a little confused about finding the max oc. my ram is stable at 1:1 at 260mhz (so i dont think its a divider problem), and i've tried all different dividers, and none of them seem to "work"
dont know if thats any help or not...
EDIT: yeah, thats what i did, and my max was 2600. now i wanna know if putting my strength values differently will help at all
i think u got antoher dud :banana: .. drive strenght values matter only when u ar driving your ram close to max frequency..but in other hand, u have FX60 for much lower price :toast:
your opty 170 may not be able to handle the ram at 260mhz..Quote:
Originally Posted by terrordemon
my ram runs at 250mhz but my opty 170 will crash prime 95 unless set to 225mhz..the memory controller is on the die so it maybe taxed too much by the overclock ....
did you get rid of your 0530 without determining the max oc by using a ram divider of 100 or 133???
if yso you are not determining your max cpu speed and the ntweaking ram
to determine max speed on the cpu you need to take the ram out of the equation..set to low speed and timings...who cares you are testing the cpu for it maxes overclock
so set the ram to 100 or 133 divider..set timings to 3-3-3- 8-1t and good vdimm for the ram...
then slow start to overclock your cpu....I would start a 170 at 2500 on stock and see if it boots and run prime 95 at all
also make sure to make a backup of anything important first..best to try basic winxp install IMHO to avoid possible software issues
remember you will go back later to determine best ram- cpu combo....
you can not expect to drop a cpu in and set to 2700-2800 with ram at 9/10 or 1:1 divider...previous combination may not work with a new chip and setup
I would suggest reading the OCing guides at dfi street for more info and at AT by Zebo..good basic stuff
^^__exactly
I'd give the 623-3 bios a shot, the 704-2BTA bios were horrible for me, I had to set my memory timmings ridiculously loose to get my system stable at my current speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrordemon