ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

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07-30-2007, 05:29 PM
Lemmingsbeest

I have ordered a Q6600 processor...(is coming tomorrow i hope)...But my big problem in the bios versions 2205 and 2206 there is no intel speedstep (i can switch it to "enabled" and it's off!!!)and in some way is the onboard soundcard is always "Enabled" ...I have a creative x-fi card(also a thing with "issues" under vista but they have soved many problems and works ok now).....So i don't want the onboard soundcard...What are they doing with this expensive board...I am back to the 2103 (thanks to the good instructions here)bios and hope that my new processor will work(soo far i can see in this forum it will work with 2103)Never had a asus board wit so many bios issues
07-30-2007, 07:54 PM
teowws

Does P5W-DH support E6850 cpu? I'm thinking of upgrading to this CPU but dunno whether it will work on this board. If it does support, any special memory requirement like faster DDR2 rams needed etc. I'm currently running on DDR2 5300/667 memory. Advise apprciated.
07-30-2007, 07:58 PM
k0nsl

Quote:

Originally Posted by teowws

Does P5W-DH support E6850 cpu? I'm thinking of upgrading to this CPU but dunno whether it will work on this board. If it does support, any special memory requirement like faster DDR2 rams needed etc. I'm currently running on DDR2 5300/667 memory. Advise apprciated.

That CPU is supported since BIOS 2103.
07-30-2007, 08:00 PM
bichi

2206 installed without issues, from 2205 (early P5WDH; Rev 1.02g; 66MOAG)

PROCEDURE USED:
- power off harddrives (SATA HD bay system installed)
- clear BIOS (jumper, 10sec)
- install 2206 with EZFlash 2 from USB flashdrive
- clear BIOS again (jumper, 10sec)
- set BIOS settings and reboot
- verify proper BIOS settings and power-off system
- set HD power to "on"
- power on system and boot to OS

RESULTS:
- no new "devices"
- no problems with onboard sound staying at "disabled"
- memory speed, temps, OCCT v1.1.1-b4, etc., all nominal
- did not test "multi" capability
- did not test Vista Ultimate 64b
07-31-2007, 12:17 AM
Potato Salad

Well I recieved mine yesterday via Canada Post..
It is indeed the Q6600 SLACR stepping..
Only took a week to get here from Vancouver..from Ncix
Total cost $321 including shipping.
This cpu was packaged on July12/07
Since installing today a few hours ago..
I also bought a new case yesterday, Antec Nine Hundred. dropped MB temps down from 48 idle to 34 awsome.
Everest is showing MB temp as 34 idle
CPU is 19-22 degrees idle BIG TYPOON IS AWSOME
I had to flash to a higher bios when I installed cpu on boot I would get this message. " Intel cpu ucode loading error F1 to resume"
It still worked just had to hit F1 each time.
Thanks Lawrywild.
I will try your bios later today when I arrive home from work.
Will I have any problem going from 2205 to your modded 2004
So far so good, 3dmark06 scores up a few hundred from my e6600 scores.
I would like to hit 10K with this setup, do you think it's possible.?
07-31-2007, 12:50 AM
k0nsl

Quote:

Originally Posted by bichi

2206 installed without issues, from 2205 (early P5WDH; Rev 1.02g; 66MOAG)

PROCEDURE USED:
- power off harddrives (SATA HD bay system installed)
- clear BIOS (jumper, 10sec)
- install 2206 with EZFlash 2 from USB flashdrive
- clear BIOS again (jumper, 10sec)
- set BIOS settings and reboot
- verify proper BIOS settings and power-off system
- set HD power to "on"
- power on system and boot to OS

RESULTS:
- no new "devices"
- no problems with onboard sound staying at "disabled"
- memory speed, temps, OCCT v1.1.1-b4, etc., all nominal
- did not test "multi" capability
- did not test Vista Ultimate 64b

Thank you, I will try the 2006 today as well.
07-31-2007, 02:26 AM
uOpt

Still not happy here. So I flashed back to 1707 to support a CPU that of course I don't own, but anyway, that works and my Celeron also still works. So far so good.

However, on the 1707 BIOS I get the problem documented in this thread that I can raise FSB only when I use SPD timings, and that kicks in around 300-330 FSB. That didn't use to be the in the 2004 BIOS. Obviously I can't do this. I have 8 GB RAM to drive and overlock at least 50%, so SPD values aren't gonna cut it.

Of course I can work around this with a variety of methods such as messing with the timings and divider after boot at low speed, this clock up, or by putting in new SPD values into the memory modules. It doesn't help that this BIOS doesn't have enough control over memory anyway.

But unless somebody has easier suggestions I'm afraid I'm through with this board. It sure is shiny and has no real clocking problems, but I really had it now with problems that Asus deliberately caused.

In any case, I greatly appreciate your help in this thread.
07-31-2007, 06:51 AM
fornowagain

Saw it was linked earlier, noticed 2206 is now on the ftp.

ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/s...20DH%20Deluxe/
07-31-2007, 07:06 AM
lawrywild

It was linked on the ftp earlier also. Been there for a day or two. ;)
07-31-2007, 07:08 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by uOpt

Still not happy here. So I flashed back to 1707 to support a CPU that of course I don't own, but anyway, that works and my Celeron also still works. So far so good.

However, on the 1707 BIOS I get the problem documented in this thread that I can raise FSB only when I use SPD timings, and that kicks in around 300-330 FSB. That didn't use to be the in the 2004 BIOS. Obviously I can't do this. I have 8 GB RAM to drive and overlock at least 50%, so SPD values aren't gonna cut it.

Of course I can work around this with a variety of methods such as messing with the timings and divider after boot at low speed, this clock up, or by putting in new SPD values into the memory modules. It doesn't help that this BIOS doesn't have enough control over memory anyway.

But unless somebody has easier suggestions I'm afraid I'm through with this board. It sure is shiny and has no real clocking problems, but I really had it now with problems that Asus deliberately caused.

In any case, I greatly appreciate your help in this thread.

What cpu are you using again?

PM me some details like CPUID strings etc and I will modify a 2004 bios to support the cpu for you.
07-31-2007, 08:07 AM
Phoenix_TT

larrywild, et al

It's a shame the sub-memory timings can't be tweaked ... or can they !

I still can't get my Corsair XMS2 rev 1.1 DDR2800 to boot at 1:1 with 400FSB and manual timings of 4-4-4-12
07-31-2007, 08:26 AM
nicepun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix_TT

larrywild, et al

It's a shame the sub-memory timings can't be tweaked ... or can they !

I still can't get my Corsair XMS2 rev 1.1 DDR2800 to boot at 1:1 with 400FSB and manual timings of 4-4-4-12

Hmmm, what voltage? Because I'm currently running Crucial Ballistix 1066 400Mhz 3-3-3-8 1:1 w/ 2.25vdimm for 24/7 use.
07-31-2007, 08:59 AM
crazeconnolly

Hi all

I just updated the BIOS on my Asus p5w dh delux to the latest 2206 Version.
For some funny reason. when i disable the onboard sound in the BIOS. And save. It keeps enabling again. It wont let me disable it.
Does anyone have any solutions for this? Id appreciate some help.

regards

Chris
07-31-2007, 09:12 AM
k0nsl

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazeconnolly

Hi all

I just updated the BIOS on my Asus p5w dh delux to the latest 2206 Version.
For some funny reason. when i disable the onboard sound in the BIOS. And save. It keeps enabling again. It wont let me disable it.
Does anyone have any solutions for this? Id appreciate some help.

regards

Chris

lol, I have the same problem, except mine is the opposite of your description - same thing with the vcore, sometimes its the value I picked, then on another boot its back at "Auto"! What a board.

As for your problems; create a "overclocking profile" or whatever they're named, and be sure to do all your changes first in the bios, then save to the profile - and everytime you reboot, just load the profile and exit bios...

I want a good bios...now.
07-31-2007, 09:39 AM
MacClipper

Quote:

same thing with the vcore, sometimes its the value I picked, then on another boot its back at "Auto"! What a board.

Make sure that both the C1E and Intel SpeedStep options are disabled if you want to set Vcore manually else it will revert back to Auto ie. they are linked options.

I wonder why this is so on this mobo cos they are independent options on my P5B Dlx and Commando boards.
07-31-2007, 10:14 AM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

It was linked on the ftp earlier also. Been there for a day or two. ;)

Is it still a beta or does being on the ftp make it official? Or is it an official beta, lol.
07-31-2007, 11:03 AM
lawrywild

Still beta. (still crap)
07-31-2007, 11:42 AM
Gig4moller

By the way. Can anyone point me to a CORRECT picture to the vdroop pencil mod? The picture in the previous page is of a P5B Dlx.

I've googled my ass off but only found results for P5B deluxe's, and when I actually get a P5W page it's just about people saying how effective the mod was for them :D Or mods involving resistors n stuff
07-31-2007, 12:09 PM
lawrywild

http://www.benchzone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36
07-31-2007, 12:10 PM
Gig4moller

Thanks alot
07-31-2007, 12:19 PM
nicepun

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

http://www.benchzone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36

And here:

http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3876

Hey Lawrywild, maybe you can put this on the front page? Just a suggestion.
07-31-2007, 12:33 PM
lawrywild

Ok. Done.
07-31-2007, 01:49 PM
astaris

Quote:

Originally Posted by uOpt

What's the deal with the memory dividers on this board?

I should have 1:1, 3:4, 3:5 and 1:2.

When selecting 200 MHz FSB with a 800 MHz FSB CPU:
- 400 1:1
- 533 3:4
- 600 WTH?
- 667 3:5
- 800 1:2

When selection 300 MHz FSB with the same CPU I get more memory dividers:
- 450, yeah, right. Should be 1:1
- 600
- 750
- 800
- 900
- 1000
- 1200

What gives?

When you select 200 Mhz FSB, the bios, no matters what cpu you have (i.e 800, 1066 or 1333 Cpu), gives you the dividers relative to 533 and 800 strap:
400, 533, 667 and 800 -> 800 strap
600 -> 533 strap
Note that, with the 533 strap, you can have also 1000 and 1200 Mhz for the memory with 200 Mhz for the FSB...so you're right, why the hell you have only five dividers? Well, ask Asus...
Edit: Well, thinking about it, maybe when the Ram Multi is above 4X, the northbridge is not able to buffer the data between the Ram and the Cpu, so in this case is not Asus fault, but a limitation of the chipset.
When you select 300 Mhz for the FSB, the available straps are 800 and 1066:
450, 600, 750, 900 -> 1066 strap
800, 1000, 1200 -> 800 strap
Here's a table that i made sometimes ago where you can see all the available Ram multi as a function of the strap:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1340/clp21zk0.jpg
The DDR freq is given by Multi x FSB.
Note that, for the P5W-DH, the last row and the 1333 strap column are not available.
07-31-2007, 06:18 PM
k0nsl

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacClipper

Make sure that both the C1E and Intel SpeedStep options are disabled if you want to set Vcore manually else it will revert back to Auto ie. they are linked options.

I wonder why this is so on this mobo cos they are independent options on my P5B Dlx and Commando boards.

I am aware of that, thanks...
08-01-2007, 05:21 AM
MarcusTaz

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacClipper

It's still a current mobo retailing at the shops, not quite EOL yet. Asus does support recent EOL mobo with BIOS updates for some time too, one reason why I buy their mobos.

btw, yours is prob. a B3.

Thanks, I am considering returning this CPU for the GO stepping. Did not realize there was such a significant difference in stepping.

Is the only true way to see what stepping you have is to read the code on the face of the chip?

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