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01-15-2008, 11:22 AM
Warboy

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Originally Posted by mc2k

isnt it about time that Asus is comming with a new BIOS? :shrug:

Its Overdue

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Originally Posted by kup

I was thinking that, but I fear our trials are just going into the Rampage bios now, as it's newer than the latest Maximus bios by about 2 weeks!!!

We just need a way to force a flash on the Maximus, seeing as the only change is the higher binned North Bridge chip!!! Then we can flash Rampage bios on the Maximus! :D

:shrug:

I was really wish for the 1xxx bios versions for the maximus
01-15-2008, 02:48 PM
Zucker2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

I was thinking that, but I fear our trials are just going into the Rampage bios now, as it's newer than the latest Maximus bios by about 2 weeks!!!

We just need a way to force a flash on the Maximus, seeing as the only change is the higher binned North Bridge chip!!! Then we can flash Rampage bios on the Maximus! :D

Tried using afudos 2.17 and /n switch but it stops at the "advanced check" stage. Maybe an earlier version of afudos could do it.
01-15-2008, 02:59 PM
Grnfinger

perhaps an older version of Asus Update might work for it flashes back from the 9 series to the 8 series rather well?
01-15-2008, 03:11 PM
Nunzi

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Originally Posted by binormalkilla

Who is running 2X2Gb on this board? I'm going to sell my Ballistix and go with 2x2Gb....I think it's holding me back from 475x8........anyhow, looking at a few here:
Geil Esoteria
These are DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 and are warrantied through 2.4V...:eek:
Geil copper heatspreaders
Lower voltage.....=bad?
Geil MASSIVE heatspreader

:rofl: Of course!

useing the gskill @1080fsb 5.5.5.15
01-15-2008, 03:19 PM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Tried using afudos 2.17 and /n switch but it stops at the "advanced check" stage. Maybe an earlier version of afudos could do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

perhaps an older version of Asus Update might work for it flashes back from the 9 series to the 8 series rather well?

I haven't tried afudos yet but I did try Asus Update right back to the first beta for v6 (which works going from 090x to earlier) with no luck. It insists it's a different model and refuses to flash it.

I used to have a windows flasher that would force anything if you wanted it to, WinFlash? Or something similar to that as WinFlash looks like GPU flashing when I google it...?
01-15-2008, 03:21 PM
Nunzi

:yepp: :yepp:

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Originally Posted by TheOriginalTB

Am I the only one not baing able to get this board stable ?

It kept failing at 3.6 and ram 540Mhz 4-5-5-15 so I reverted everything back to std. And I'm still not able to complete a dual SuperPI 8M.. One of them _always fails_ in the beginning with "Not covergent in SQR".

Using BIOS 0907 hardware as follows
Maximus Formula 0907
E6600
OCZ FlexXLC6400 CAS3
Samsung T166
TerraTec Cinergy 400TV
XFi Extreme Music
Geforce 7300GS

Cooling:
Swiftech Apogee GT
Swiftech MCW30 on NB
Zalmann passive on SB
3x120 single rads
Coolplex 500mm reservoir
FeserOne Fluid

Temps are now (according to Asus Probe..): CPU: 10, NM: 30, SB: 38, MB: 38
voltages are: vCore: 1.3, NM 1.36, SB: 1.07, DRAM: 2.1, FSBT: 1.23, SB2: 1.54, DRAM ref: 1.04

Everything in BIOS set to auto at the moment..

EDIT: Coretemps says 23 og both cores.

I had that problem to with bios 0907 went back to 0903 all good again:yepp:
01-15-2008, 03:39 PM
Pandamonia

Can some one help me and tell me if this is correct?

Asus probe temps are 0.1 over on the ram and 0.5 under on Vcore for what i set in the bios?? WTF?

why so inaccurate?

Also since i installed this board.

my 12v rail is 12.32
my 3.3v is at 3.2
my 5v is at 4.9

on my other asus all these were perfect????
01-15-2008, 03:49 PM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

I haven't tried afudos yet but I did try Asus Update right back to the first beta for v6 (which works going from 090x to earlier) with no luck. It insists it's a different model and refuses to flash it.

I used to have a windows flasher that would force anything if you wanted it to, WinFlash? Or something similar to that as WinFlash looks like GPU flashing when I google it...?

You wouldnt be talking about UNIFLASH?
from the web site...............
"UniFlash is a flash utility, that can flash BIOS on many boards.
UniFlash is made to be universal - this can be useful when you're hot-flashing your bios in another motherboard.
Not only that - it supports some PCI cards too and also supports c't Flasher ISA card."

http://www.uniflash.org/

I'm not going to be the first to brick my board:D
01-15-2008, 04:04 PM
binormalkilla

All right well I ordered the Geil 2x2Gb DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 so it should be here in a few days....I'll post results.
01-15-2008, 05:20 PM
Talonman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

So are you looking for aftermarket ONLY?
I have a reseated Fuzion with AS5 on water and get respectable temps

Yes, and would like to hear your re-mount story in this thread: ;)
Edit this line with your info, and make your submission to the thread below please...

Grnfinger --------- 1.54v ------ 34°C -------------------------- Q6600 GO @ 3.6GHz (Reseated W/MX-2, NB was 48°C)

Official Water Cooling Thread of the Stock Maximus SE ROG NB Club:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=164610

Question: Are the V-reg or choke chips marked 'R68' located around the CPU worth cooling with some forged copper sinks?

How hot do they get on the Maximus?
01-16-2008, 03:05 AM
Pandamonia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandamonia

Can some one help me and tell me if this is correct?

Asus probe temps are 0.1 over on the ram and 0.5 under on Vcore for what i set in the bios?? WTF?

why so inaccurate?

Also since i installed this board.

my 12v rail is 12.32
my 3.3v is at 3.2
my 5v is at 4.9

on my other asus all these were perfect????

Any ideas?
01-16-2008, 03:41 AM
quadnad

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandamonia

Any ideas?

software voltage readings are all bollucks to begin with. The only way you're going to get a reading you can trust is to pull out a multimeter.
01-16-2008, 04:25 AM
ElEctric_EyE

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

I haven't tried afudos yet but I did try Asus Update right back to the first beta for v6 (which works going from 090x to earlier) with no luck. It insists it's a different model and refuses to flash it.

I used to have a windows flasher that would force anything if you wanted it to, WinFlash? Or something similar to that as WinFlash looks like GPU flashing when I google it...?

What's your backup plan when your BIOS is toast? I am curious though and hope you find the answer... It would also be interesting to see if this Rampage board has their famous EPU chip.
01-16-2008, 10:53 AM
Drag

very nice quality board you got there
01-16-2008, 11:12 AM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElEctric_EyE

What's your backup plan when your BIOS is toast? I am curious though and hope you find the answer... It would also be interesting to see if this Rampage board has their famous EPU chip.

If it doesn't work I'll boot it with the Driver CD in the drive and it should force a reflash to the stock bios. If however it doesn't work, I'll just notch it up to experience and take one for the team...

I'm pretty sure it does have the EPU as it's the same PCB, just higher binned, but identical, North Bridge chips!
01-16-2008, 02:19 PM
JoeBar

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

If it doesn't work I'll boot it with the Driver CD in the drive and it should force a reflash to the stock bios. If however it doesn't work, I'll just notch it up to experience and take one for the team...

I'm pretty sure it does have the EPU as it's the same PCB, just higher binned, but identical, North Bridge chips!

If u want to force flash through asus update utility, try google TNT Enforcer. It may help...
01-16-2008, 05:47 PM
binormalkilla

Well my Geil Esoteria 2x2Gb DDR2800 4-4-4-12 memory arrives on Friday...so I'll have some results with them.....I hope running 2 DIMMs instead of 4 allows me to run FSB 475........
BTW these DIMMs are warrantied up to 2.5V :eek:
01-16-2008, 06:17 PM
binormalkilla

BTW what slots are you guys with 2x2Gb using? Blue or white?
01-16-2008, 07:10 PM
Cumulonimbus

Hello,

have anyone installed 4 x 2GB (or 4 x 1 GB) on Formula Maximus and if, how much voltage are you set to the northbridge?

My Problem:

before i have a upgrade from 4 x 1 GB (Corsair XMS2-6400C4) to 4 x 2 GB (Exceleram 6400 C4) done, i must change the northbridge voltage from default to 1.47V to become the memory stable. Now i am on 4 x 2GB and im interestit to test lower voltages.

How much voltage are on your on full memory slots?

Greets,
Cb
01-16-2008, 08:37 PM
binormalkilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cumulonimbus

Hello,

have anyone installed 4 x 2GB (or 4 x 1 GB) on Formula Maximus and if, how much voltage are you set to the northbridge?

My Problem:

before i have a upgrade from 4 x 1 GB (Corsair XMS2-6400C4) to 4 x 2 GB (Exceleram 6400 C4) done, i must change the northbridge voltage from default to 1.47V to become the memory stable. Now i am on 4 x 2GB and im interestit to test lower voltages.

How much voltage are on your on full memory slots?

Greets,
Cb

I don't know if anyone is running 4x2Gb :eek: but I am running 4x1Gb ATM (until Friday, then 2x4Gb), but I run 1.63V on the NBV for an OC of 23x8 DDR2-1128.....however the divider isn't completely stable. For best stability on FSB over 400 I would recommend running auto FSB strap and auto DRAM freq.....this way it's 1:1.
I can pass memory tests for hours with dividers, but using OCCT or Prime95 my PC will crash after 15 minutes or so.
01-16-2008, 08:58 PM
Cumulonimbus

Quote:

Originally Posted by binormalkilla

I don't know if anyone is running 4x2Gb :eek: but I am running 4x1Gb ATM (until Friday, then 2x4Gb), but I run 1.63V on the NBV for an OC of 23x8 DDR2-1128.....however the divider isn't completely stable. For best stability on FSB over 400 I would recommend running auto FSB strap and auto DRAM freq.....this way it's 1:1.
I can pass memory tests for hours with dividers, but using OCCT or Prime95 my PC will crash after 15 minutes or so.

1.63V? Isn't that to much? nb are watercooled?
01-16-2008, 09:25 PM
binormalkilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cumulonimbus

1.63V? Isn't that to much? nb are watercooled?

Nah it's not water cooled.....I'm going to test with lower voltage.....but my temps are fine......
01-17-2008, 04:21 AM
Nunzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by binormalkilla

BTW what slots are you guys with 2x2Gb using? Blue or white?

White
01-17-2008, 06:23 AM
binormalkilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunzi

White

Thanks :up:
01-17-2008, 10:09 AM
FZ1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cumulonimbus

How much voltage are on your on full memory slots?

Guys, everyone seems to think this board overvolts VDIMM by a fair amount (I'm not disagreeing here). My question is - is this based on BIOS/software readings or has someone measured it with a DMM? I'd like to know where the measuring points are so I can measure them for myself. I had some Ballsitix die on me and I *suspect* it is due to the board overvolting.
If anyone can point these out, I would appreciate it and it will probably help a bunch of others keep their RAM safe and/or dial in their OC.

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