Dothan @ CT-479 - howto and fixes.

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Originally Posted by Dragonx21

that?

Afudos /i1023ed.rom /n /pbnc

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Yes........

EDIT: I hope that you have already renamed - if not - the bios file to .ROM

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Originally Posted by hipro5

Yes........

EDIT: I hope that you have already renamed - if not - the bios file to .ROM

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yes...

but now... the pc doesn't boot to windows 98 recover floppy why?

I tried to flash my P4C800 Deluxe with that bios too and after the flash i can get in the bios and save the settings but after that it won't boot and i have to erase the bios settings to boot and get in the bios again but than i have the same problem again,after save settings it won't boot :(
I did use Afudos 1.16 and the boottrick.
Is it possible to use the P4C800-E Deluxe bios in the non E version because i want to change the multiplier.

I now use the program Eist to change the multiplier in windows but i'm not sure if it's stable because i can't get a higher fsb than 214.
I can run Superpi 1M at 13x214 but 10,11 or 12x215 gives a error in Superpi.

Or does my M740 not like a higher fsb than 214 :(
It's prime stable at 13x200@1,375V with the standard cooler.

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Originally Posted by audiojunk66

I tried to flash my P4C800 Deluxe with that bios too and after the flash i can get in the bios and save the settings but after that it won't boot and i have to erase the bios settings to boot and get in the bios again but than i have the same problem again,after save settings it won't boot :(
I did use Afudos 1.16 and the boottrick.
Is it possible to use the P4C800-E Deluxe bios in the non E version because i want to change the multiplier.

I now use the program Eist to change the multiplier in windows but i'm not sure if it's stable because i can't get a higher fsb than 214.
I can run Superpi 1M at 13x214 but 10,11 or 12x215 gives a error in Superpi.

Or does my M740 not like a higher fsb than 214 :(
It's prime stable at 13x200@1,375V with the standard cooler.

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me too...

the issue of bus is an issue of bios, for got high bus must boot 200+FSB :mad:

where do i buy this ct-479 adapter card at? ive been looking thru the treads and havent found where to buy yet...

thx perc,

i got mine from www.xpcgear.com

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Originally Posted by Mike@Portugal

The Asus P4P800SE 1010 Bios is here:

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock4...e/1010-001.zip

It's in the US ftp

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are there any release notes or anything for them, do they do anything for ct-479? such as full pat with agp/pci locks

Perc,

eWiz had them not too long ago for about the $54 or so, shipped.

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Forget it, I just checked eWiz and they don't show any.

Beware to DISABLE the onboard LAN when you flash a different bios in your mobo.......and KEEP it DISABLE........Forget the onboard LAN....... :)

why is that?

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Originally Posted by hipro5

Beware to DISABLE the onboard LAN when you flash a different bios in your mobo.......and KEEP it DISABLE........Forget the onboard LAN....... :)

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Do you know this from personal experience? Others have reported that LAN, sound and RAID all work fine after flashing P4P800DLX to P4P800SE.

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Originally Posted by hmsrolst

Do you know this from personal experience? Others have reported that LAN, sound and RAID all work fine after flashing P4P800DLX to P4P800SE.

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There are mobo's which have Intel Giga LAN and others that have Marvel LAN.......Between them, there is a no go by flashing them with another bios than it's own, if you can understand what I mean......

EDIT: I'm talking about P4C800 series.....

but.. with the P4C800E-DLX bios can't save setting...

if i disable the lan, can work the save setting?

so does anyone know what exactly this bios does for a p4p800se?

I just picked up a second 730 hoping for a good chip for my P4P800SE. My first 730 would run at 201x10 with stock voltage, but not much more. I can't get the new chip to run at any FSB higher than 196. So I can run at 11x196 (2157), or 12x183(2196), but I can't boot at even 10x201(2010). From my other chip I know the board and RAM are fine with it, just not with this chip. Although this kind of problem was common at lower FSB with B1 chips, it seems peculiar with C0 chips. Has anybody else had a problem like this? :confused:

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Originally Posted by hmsrolst

I just picked up a second 730 hoping for a good chip for my P4P800SE. My first 730 would run at 201x10 with stock voltage, but not much more. I can't get the new chip to run at any FSB higher than 196. So I can run at 11x196 (2157), or 12x183(2196), but I can't boot at even 10x201(2010). From my other chip I know the board and RAM are fine with it, just not with this chip. Although this kind of problem was common at lower FSB with B1 chips, it seems peculiar with C0 chips. Has anybody else had a problem like this? :confused:

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i can boot from bios up to around 230fsb with the same chip and board..

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Originally Posted by hmsrolst

I just picked up a second 730 hoping for a good chip for my P4P800SE. My first 730 would run at 201x10 with stock voltage, but not much more. I can't get the new chip to run at any FSB higher than 196. So I can run at 11x196 (2157), or 12x183(2196), but I can't boot at even 10x201(2010). From my other chip I know the board and RAM are fine with it, just not with this chip. Although this kind of problem was common at lower FSB with B1 chips, it seems peculiar with C0 chips. Has anybody else had a problem like this? :confused:

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Yes .....something similar happened to me . I removed the jumper from the CT-479 adaptor and it worked :D

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Originally Posted by vtx_

so does anyone know what exactly this bios does for a p4p800se?

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Seems like nothing.

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Originally Posted by toledo

Yes .....something similar happened to me . I removed the jumper from the CT-479 adaptor and it worked :D

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Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, it didn't work for me. Anybody else have this issue? Any other suggestions appreciated.

what is the latest bios version for mobo P4C800-e del, 1023.001?
i think i have seen somewhere 1023.004, but I can't find anything about that.

There's also a new bios for the P4C800 Deluxe since 23 september,don't know what the benefits are.

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us

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Originally Posted by audiojunk66

There's also a new bios for the P4C800 Deluxe since 23 september,don't know what the benefits are.

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us

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1024.001 beta bios is also out... I will flash it now.

Razor_Sniper, if it's for P4C800-ED, could you post a link.

p.s. thx, I allready found it, thx

Is there any difference betwen 1023 and 1024.001 at oc?

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Originally Posted by Rovtar

Is there any difference betwen 1023 and 1024.001 at oc?

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No, my max is still this:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=40229

:(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...udason/SPI.jpg

Can you make a Screen of CPU-Z with the Memorytimings.

You you are nearly 2 sec faster than i. But you are only 74mhz more than me ...

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/da...332427_406.JPG

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Originally Posted by 0verl0ad

Can you make a Screen of CPU-Z with the Memorytimings.

You you are nearly 2 sec faster than i. But you are only 74mhz more than me ...

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Firstly you are with the P4P800 and 865 and he is with the P4C800 and 875....... ;)

Now here's another one with the P4C800 and 875.......... ;)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...-Pi_25_png.png


EDIT: I just show that you've got TWO "minus"......a. P4P800 and b. Cas 2.5-3-3-6.......NO go..... ;)

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Originally Posted by hipro5

Firstly you are with the P4P800 and 865 and he is with the P4C800 and 875....... ;)

Now here's another one with the P4C800 and 875.......... ;)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...-Pi_25_png.png


EDIT: I just show that you've got TWO "minus"......a. P4P800 and b. Cas 2.5-3-3-6.......NO go..... ;)

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hipro thats crazy. could you run PI MOD so that i can see the milisecs.

anyway here's the mem timing i used: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...875tweaker.jpg

funny to think i held this ct479 in my hands some weeks ago george :D hehehe

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Originally Posted by Elisha

hipro thats crazy. could you run PI MOD so that i can see the milisecs.

anyway here's the mem timing i used: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...875tweaker.jpg

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Sorry, this was done on July.....Since then, I have disassemble the comp while testing the cascade......I'll be back soon..... But I have some more on higher frequencies though..... ;)

Like this - let's say -..... :)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...21.984_png.png


EDIT: Try to use the "111" parameter if your rams could handle it and not the "110" on the older Tweaker.....

EDIT 2 : ALSO boot at 200MHz and not at 201MHz..... ;)

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Originally Posted by saaya

funny to think i held this ct479 in my hands some weeks ago george :D hehehe

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:D :toast:

is there a difference in the old and new tweaker?
i thougt the old one had three digits and the new had 2 but otherwise all is the same.
i get no difference between 11 or 10.

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Originally Posted by Elisha

is there a difference in the old and new tweaker?
i thougt the old one had three digits and the new had 2 but otherwise all is the same.
i get no difference between 11 or 10.

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I haven't tested the newer one........but I think that you are right.......111 = 11 and 110 = 10.......After all I don't use the Tweaker at all.... :D

In bios I put everything in turbo and enable with the lower latencies so I don't need tweaker.... ;)

ah ic but the p4c800 doesn have alot of memory timings in the bios at all.
i even flashed to the new bios but there is absolutely nothing different which is dissapointing.

3D2K1:
36,383
too bad my xms3500 BH5 is dead or my lobby low would be higher.

It looks like the p4c800-e dlx does not give 2.85Vdimm when set to that.All the settings my tcc5 ran on my 875p-t at 2.8Vdimm ( read very hard and fussy on ram) was not stable on my p4c.

Here's a comparison for the P4P800 and the P4C800 mobos......

P4P800-SE

Take a good look at the ram speed here......

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...aR_694_png.png

P4C800E-Deluxe

.....now take a good look at the ram speed here.......

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...aR_759_png.png

As you can see here, the ram on P4P is on a LOT higher frequency than the P4C one.......BUT PAT works fine on the P4C......The "phseudo PAT" on P4P isn't doing a good job....... ;)
All test are with everything aggressive

AGAIN P4P800

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D..._41.54_png.png

.......and P4C800.......

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D..._40.38_png.png

P4P800

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D..._32.99_png.png

P4C800

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D..._31.72_png.png


As you can see there is no comparison between those two mobos......P4C800E-D is way ahead of the P4P800-SE.......

.....and max RAM frequency on P4C800E-Deluxe.......cpu-z verified......a bit lower...not 280MHz but 279.8MHz..... :D

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...sb_1_1_png.png

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...0_cpuz_png.png

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...700_id_png.png

can sb tell how should be next two options set for fastest performance

DRAM Idle Timer
DRAM Refreah Rate

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Originally Posted by zbogorgon

can sb tell how should be next two options set for fastest performance

DRAM Idle Timer
DRAM Refreah Rate

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I'm not sure but i think it also depends on what memory you use,just try some settings and run some benchmarks to see if you get a beter result.

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Originally Posted by hipro5

Firstly you are with the P4P800 and 865 and he is with the P4C800 and 875....... ;)

Now here's another one with the P4C800 and 875.......... ;)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...-Pi_25_png.png


EDIT: I just show that you've got TWO "minus"......a. P4P800 and b. Cas 2.5-3-3-6.......NO go..... ;)

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Just to compare how faster is P4C over P4GD1 , I will test soon at exactly the same clock and timmings as Hipro5 soon :D

BTW , Stryg add that to the first page also . ;)

http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/marcel...edo/spi_XS.JPG

hey Toledo try Pi Mod so we can see the miliseconds difference.

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Originally Posted by hipro5

Sorry, this was done on July.....Since then, I have disassemble the comp while testing the cascade......I'll be back soon..... But I have some more on higher frequencies though..... ;)

Like this - let's say -..... :)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...21.984_png.png


EDIT: Try to use the "111" parameter if your rams could handle it and not the "110" on the older Tweaker.....

EDIT 2 : ALSO boot at 200MHz and not at 201MHz..... ;)

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hipro this result is great :) 25s with 2,7 :clap:


does anybody knnows if the dualcore p-ms will use 479 ?

yes, they will, but it might not be the same 479.

can anybody help me, when i mount my phase change on my dothan, I allways get "new cpu installed" and can't get past bios, except default settings. Tried reflashing bios, doesn't help, cleared cmos, doesn't help either.

maybe something is wrong with cpu?

maybe it doesn't like below minus temps.

now i have the same problem on stock cooler to???

Be aware that the adapter might be pushing to the P4 retension socket from beneath.

Make sure that the board is properly mounted and use spacer if not mounted at all :)

BTW P4P can do a good job booting at 200. :)
PAT is fully enabled w/ turbo setting. Unfortunately only 1:1 divider work w/ 533 bootstrap.

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/kikoguru/img/27s.png

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/kikoguru/img/27891.png

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/kikoguru/img/28055.png

[ti4200 at low resolution]

Ciao

actually i fixed it, i vaccumed both sockets and it's gone, probobly some of the insulation got caught up between.

can anybody tell me is it save to put DDR booster on a mobo with vdimm mod, what is the thing?

Dothan 730 on air
27 sec on a P4C800E deluxe :)

Has any one used the p4c800 (knot e) bios 1021.005 beta ?

my p4c800 e dlx and dothan 730 and ct-479 are all dead after pushing it to 275x10 with ram at 275 2.5-3-3-5 the pc reset the ct-479 will no longer tell the motherboard what vcore to use. in the p4c800-e it shows 1.7 upto 1.9 and in a p4p800se it shows 1v both have no options in the bios to the vcore.
then the cpu just died i guess the vcore running so high did this.

i picked up a used p4c800 dlx and borrowed a ct-479 and pm 740 from work.
after checking asus for the latest bios i flashed the 1021.005 beta.
everything seamed to be ok but i keep getting random resets. I checked the temps and they looked ok with stock settings of 133x13 on teh cpu.
i put a p4 back in the system and that is stable. Today i tested the ct-479 and cpu at work and that is stable too.
i think it's the bios that causing my problems but i will flash to 1021.003 to see if thats any better.

I'm using a P-M 760 in a P4P800DLX flashed to P4P800SE BIOS 1010.001. No matter how I set the RAM speed in the BIOS, I end up with a 3:4 FSB:RAM divider according to CPU-Z or Clockgen. I've tried pulling the jumpers off the CT-479, and every available RAM setting (266, 333 and auto at lower speeds). The end result is that I can't get a decent FSB because the RAM (Ballistix PC4000) is too overclocked.

For example, I have no problem running Prime 95 at 15x160 (2400), but 12 x 200 or 201 won't boot, because the RAM speed is too high. Do you think that this is a mobo or BIOS problem, or am I just doing something wrong? Suggestions very much appreciated.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...n/a39de3fc.jpg

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Originally Posted by leejsmith

Has any one used the p4c800 (knot e) bios 1021.005 beta ?

my p4c800 e dlx and dothan 730 and ct-479 are all dead after pushing it to 275x10 with ram at 275 2.5-3-3-5 the pc reset the ct-479 will no longer tell the motherboard what vcore to use. in the p4c800-e it shows 1.7 upto 1.9 and in a p4p800se it shows 1v both have no options in the bios to the vcore.
then the cpu just died i guess the vcore running so high did this.

i picked up a used p4c800 dlx and borrowed a ct-479 and pm 740 from work.
after checking asus for the latest bios i flashed the 1021.005 beta.
everything seamed to be ok but i keep getting random resets. I checked the temps and they looked ok with stock settings of 133x13 on teh cpu.
i put a p4 back in the system and that is stable. Today i tested the ct-479 and cpu at work and that is stable too.
i think it's the bios that causing my problems but i will flash to 1021.003 to see if thats any better.

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I had a similar problem when I pushed my RAM too far. Try running a divider and make sure it's not the RAM.

Why not use the latest 1023 BIOS?

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Originally Posted by leejsmith

Has any one used the p4c800 (knot e) bios 1021.005 beta ?

my p4c800 e dlx and dothan 730 and ct-479 are all dead after pushing it to 275x10 with ram at 275 2.5-3-3-5 the pc reset the ct-479 will no longer tell the motherboard what vcore to use. in the p4c800-e it shows 1.7 upto 1.9 and in a p4p800se it shows 1v both have no options in the bios to the vcore.
then the cpu just died i guess the vcore running so high did this.

i picked up a used p4c800 dlx and borrowed a ct-479 and pm 740 from work.
after checking asus for the latest bios i flashed the 1021.005 beta.
everything seamed to be ok but i keep getting random resets. I checked the temps and they looked ok with stock settings of 133x13 on teh cpu.
i put a p4 back in the system and that is stable. Today i tested the ct-479 and cpu at work and that is stable too.
i think it's the bios that causing my problems but i will flash to 1021.003 to see if thats any better.

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I got the same combination but i use bios 1021d.004 and have no problems only the multiplier is fixed at 13 :( can you choose different multipliers with bios 1021.005?

you can get 1021d.004 here:

ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIO...P4C800_Deluxe/

yes you can change the multi with 1021.005. i will try again sunday just incase it was somthing else like bad contact with the cooler.

@bnice7 it's not my ram thats the problem it's gskill ddr600 so running at 270 fsb is not even pushing it but it could be the mobo not happy as 270fsb.
1023 is for the p4c800-e i dont have the -e anymore and it wont work on the p4c800 as it has a intel lan and the none e has 3com lan.

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Originally Posted by audiojunk66

I got the same combination but i use bios 1021d.004 and have no problems only the multiplier is fixed at 13 :( can you choose different multipliers with bios 1021.005?

you can get 1021d.004 here:

ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIO...P4C800_Deluxe/

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looks like it was a poor contact with the cooler as it's been working ok for the past hour.

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Originally Posted by leejsmith

yes you can change the multi with 1021.005. i will try again sunday just incase it was somthing else like bad contact with the cooler.

@bnice7 it's not my ram thats the problem it's gskill ddr600 so running at 270 fsb is not even pushing it but it could be the mobo not happy as 270fsb.
1023 is for the p4c800-e i dont have the -e anymore and it wont work on the p4c800 as it has a intel lan and the none e has 3com lan.

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Originally Posted by leejsmith

yes you can change the multi with 1021.005. i will try again sunday just incase it was somthing else like bad contact with the cooler.

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I flashed my P4C800 Deluxe too with the 1021.005 bios and i have the option to change the multiplier in the bios but if i choose another multiplier than 13,say 10 it still boot with 13 :mad: i think i have to wait for another beta bios :(