XS Yonah T2600ES competition !!!

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03-25-2006, 03:54 PM
M.Beier

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

thanks for the update

pls tell us more about this if you can

I dont think he'll give any info on the ramdisk, its their thing :fact:

Kyosen, thx for all the great answers :) - I got one more 4 ya, what temp did the CPU hit... Idle as well as load... Delta load-idle is quite interesting IMO..
03-25-2006, 03:57 PM
Waus-mod

Great kyosen, You broke as first!!!
03-25-2006, 03:58 PM
alexio

Well, I've tried many RAMdisks actually, even super expensive (and fast) ones, and other people have too. In all cases it didn't help for superpi at all, it only made the results less than 0.1s worse to be exact.

So Kyoses uses it as a tradition, or he has some special trick. The latest I highly doubt, because I tried like anything.
03-25-2006, 04:09 PM
Harshal

Thanks for the update Kyosen, very informative :)
But hope Aopen/ECS has VCore option as I am not good @ hard-modding :(
03-25-2006, 04:10 PM
M.Beier

They have a special trick... - And we're aint getting it ;)
03-25-2006, 04:18 PM
kiwi

hmm, well if you can get at least 2.7Ghz on such board then maybe it is not that bad after all. How much does it cost?

EDIT:

Found one here for 28K Yen, ~$240...oh well
http://impress.earena.co.jp/fr.html?...195.13.134.207
03-25-2006, 05:04 PM
Sesto Sento

awesome start kyosen ;)
let's hope that more is coming soon ;)
03-25-2006, 06:06 PM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Beier

They have a special trick... - And we're aint getting it ;)

Don't worry - if they have a trick they are eventually sharing it. That what makes some of these legends even more special - they do share their talent and knowledge with the rest of the OC community. Just like Hipro5, Shamino ( and many others ) the Japanese OC gang are incredibly open on what they discover.

Thanks to this we have the now famed "Kyosen mod"
03-25-2006, 06:37 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeguava

Thanks to this we have the now famed "Kyosen mod"

true that's why i ask........i donno if it is special or not but maxmem get a fair bit of mention and i haven't been able to make anything useful out of it
03-25-2006, 06:48 PM
kone

Thanks Kyosen, Nice info
03-25-2006, 07:22 PM
Bogi

ok
but for extrem oc
i think its to bad mb
i wait for aopen/elitegroup
03-25-2006, 07:24 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogi

ok
but for extrem oc
i think its to bad mb
i wait for aopen/elitegroup

why?
03-25-2006, 07:24 PM
Gautam

Kyosen is especially open...just look at his 3DMark run, he gives the LOD levels for each individual test. I have yet to see any other bencher be so open and so detailed...true class
03-25-2006, 10:41 PM
kyosen

2nd updates

If you can understand japanese language, check the URL below:
http://www.oohashi.jp/c-board/c-boar...ne;no=4282;id=

> > What PCI freq you have at 213fsb? 35.5 or 42.6?
> --
> I've not yet checked it, but I think that PCI clock is fixed at 33.3MHz...
> I'll check it later by PC Geiger/RD2 PCI Bus Analyzer.
--
PC Geiger shows 33.2MHz in any FSB, so PCI clock is fixed, it seems.
<img src="http://222.151.185.113/c-board/file/945GT-SP_PC-Geiger-RD2.jpg">

> what temp did the CPU hit... Idle as well as load...
> Delta load-idle is quite interesting IMO..
--
I checked it with PC Wizard 2006 by Franck:
31.5deg-C, at idle
34.0deg-C, at 1CPU load(=1 SuperPI running)
36.0deg-C, at 2CPU loads(=2 SuperPI running)
Screenshots are uploaded on my BBS.

And now, I've also modded Vdimm circuit:)
I confirmed upto 2.4V...
this mod needs cutting pattern on motherboards, though.
<img src="http://222.151.185.113/c-board/file/945GT-SP_Vdimm-mod.jpg">
Now CL3 setting is available for my system;)
<img src="http://222.151.185.113/c-board/file/27.953s_Yonah_2157.85.png">

And then,

> Well, I've tried many RAMdisks actually, even super expensive (and fast)
> ones, and other people have too. In all cases it didn't help for superpi at all,
> it only made the results less than 0.1s worse to be exact.
>
> So Kyoses uses it as a tradition, or he has some special trick.
> The latest I highly doubt, because I tried like anything.
--
:confused:
MAXMEM and RAMdisk are not main theme on this thread,
so I don't want to describe details here, but I must say,
"RAMdisk is effective for SuperPI, especially in 8M or above, I believe."
And about MAXMEM, it's mainly used for RAMdisk now.
You say "expensive"...mine is "free", i.e. the RAMdisk by free software.
You can download it from the URL below:
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/winnt/h.../se108927.html
Yes it's a japanese free software, but don't blame me...
My usual setting is:
<img src="http://222.151.185.113/c-board/file/ERAM_setting_usual.png">
This setting gives 393216kB RAMdisk as Z: drive.
The disk image area is derived from main memory,
so we need to restrict amount of memory used for system,
by MAXMEM description in boot.ini.

In early times, MAXMEM itself was effective for SuperPI...
...yes SuperPI, but especially for SuperPI Japanese version.
I don't know why it is so, but very effective on the system using Celeron.
Now, for SuperPI mod1.4/1.5XS, MAXMEM itself has little effect, I think.
03-25-2006, 10:57 PM
Dumo

Thanks for all the info kyosen:toast:
03-25-2006, 11:12 PM
fredyama

Very nice work kyosen:clap::clap: :clap: :toast:
As usual you are a pioneer and showing us all in details.

What a laugh when we saw many un-skilled OCer like comments:D
They do not even understand that your modPI 1, 8M run may be slower by using Maxmem 600.
Or, they simply cannot use proper English to express by themselves.
03-25-2006, 11:16 PM
Dumo

Even with bare bone stock spi run....that yonah is still fast:)

Any news with Aopen board kyosen?
03-25-2006, 11:22 PM
dinos22

thanks Kyosen you are a legend and your bench setup there looks nothing short of :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
03-25-2006, 11:31 PM
zakelwe

I thought all RAMDISKS were software based apart from those add in cards from Gigabyte ?

Very nice work Kyosen, I see this thread is going to give a lot of information on a lot of different combinations to a lot of people as well as being a competition so I have rated it 5 stars ( how come nobody else had up to now ? :) ).

As this is a competition as well should Kyosens initial results not be posted on the first page Waus-mod ?

Looking forward to some 3dmark2001 scores .. many thanks.

Regards

Andy
03-25-2006, 11:36 PM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan

What a laugh when we saw many un-skilled OCer like comments:D
They do not even understand that your modPI 1, 8M run may be slower by using Maxmem 600.
Or, they simply cannot use proper English to express by themselves.

I think we all have a lot to learn from Japan when it comes to Superpi :D

Your comment on not being able to use proper English made me laugh, very nicely put and very funny ! :clap: :) We are glad you can speak English of course !

Regards

Andy
03-25-2006, 11:54 PM
kyosen

Hi Dumo,

> Any news with Aopen board kyosen?
--
Hmm...I have no info about availability of AOpen i975Xa-YDG.

All things that I know about i975Xa-YDG are:
1. Vcore control chip: ISL6262
2. Vdimm control chip: ISL6537
3. PLL chip: RTM865-461
These info are based on my quick look of "sample" board in Akiba,
so they may vary in future...

Anyway, if it is released, I'll also get it:)
03-26-2006, 01:22 AM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

Your comment on not being able to use proper English made me laugh, very nicely put and very funny ! :clap: :) We are glad you can speak English of course !

Regards

Andy

Thank you Andy-san for your laugh on my Japanese joke in English;)

Fred
03-26-2006, 02:04 AM
kyosen

3rd update

Fred, thank you for introducing Yonah-ES to me:toast:

And here small update.
I set Vdimm at 2.582V, now my system is running
over DDR2-800 with CL3 setting:)

SuperPI mod1.5XS:1M -> 22.313s
<img src="http://222.151.185.113/c-board/file/22.313s_Yonah_2704.19.png">

SuperPI mod1.5XS:8M -> 4m14.344s
<img src="http://222.151.185.113/c-board/file/4m14.344s_Yonah_2701.57.png">

In the next time, I'll try 3DMarks;)
03-26-2006, 02:21 AM
dinos22

PLS PLS PLS do a 32M run as well :slobber:
03-26-2006, 02:23 AM
wwwww

Can you up the vcore? I want 3GHz :P

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