Feser's New Lineup

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Originally Posted by jmm5351

The only reason why I ask is because I want to buy a new radiator and I was willing to wait a period of time for the Admiral Monsta Series, but I am only going to wait another few days for a reply back from FrozenCPU. If no reply big deal all radiators perform similarily close anyways, especially the big name radiators that everyone are familiar with. But since I haven't got an answer back I am going to safely assume that they aren't going to be for sale on FrozenCPU till after February, probably much after February. I don't understand what takes people so long to get products out for sale. I know the whole process because I am an engineer, and these companies tend to slack a lot when it comes to pushing out a new technology or product. The only company off the top of my head that is not what I just said is Intel. They churn out technology like they stole it from aliens.

Company's have been slacking though lately and need to keep up. That's why the American Economy is going to hell. I hate to say it but it is true. Things were different back in the good ole days.

The Hooverdam only took 4 years to complete for crying out loud. Feser can't even make a new radiator in that amount of time lol

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Seeing they only had a engineering sample @ CES, I think it's fairly safe to say you won't see these for a while yet.

How long are they going to drag this drama out? If you want to hype a product, then go ahead. But if drag it out over months and months people are not gonna give a crap anymore.

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged

Seeing they only had a engineering sample @ CES, I think it's fairly safe to say you won't see these for a while yet.

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I can only add, that the problem is not in the production it self, but the relationship between the client (TFC) and the actual manufacturer. This was ruined by the first one. So, I guess, we won't see these "awesome" rads at all, unless the client finds friends in Asia

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Originally Posted by SpuTnicK

I can only add, that the problem is not in the production it self, but the relationship between the client (TFC) and the actual manufacturer. This was ruined by the first one. So, I guess, we won't see these "awesome" rads at all, unless the client finds friends in Asia

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...but in Dazmode's vid, they said "completely made in Gerhmany". :shrug:

haha, they can say whatever they want, and you, WL, not a child to believe these stories. It is all marketing hypes, if you ask me

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Originally Posted by SpuTnicK

haha, they can say whatever they want, and you, WL, not a child to believe these stories. It is all marketing hypes, if you ask me

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You forget who your talking to, I was just reiterating their claim. ;) :D

oh you darn joker :D

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Originally Posted by Holst

The gains in a "normal" watercooling system with low wattage and slow fans will be pretty minimal by increasing turbulence.

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I'm going to half disagree with you. I'd speculate that lower flow scenarios should show higher sensitivity to the internal flow characteristics, e.g. 'turbulence'.

While waiting for the Admirals....some more weeks....or maybe month...you can have a look at this tfc copy of an old noiseblocker product:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVJOq..._order&list=UL

original:

http://www.noiseblocker.de/HDDZubehoer.php

:rolleyes:

Meh, if we're gonna classify all single and double hdd silencers as NB copies, why not toss in the one Scythe made as well :p:.

Feser did a nice job on the design, and just because the design looks similar, I have a hard time calling it a copy.

Well, if you knew more details about TFC and NB, you would said different ;)

Meh, ask Dirk, Boss of Noiseblocker who makes the design of the Admiral Rads and builds the first prototype ~ 4 years ago ! And ask, why the admirals are still not on the market.....maybe because of some patents ?!

Hmm? I thought that NB and TFC are related just with TFC Triebwerks that they developed together, and which uses NB's NanoSLI bearings ..

Fester, the copy company ;)

I found this today:

http://hw-lab.com/thermalfins-a-new-...ercooling.html

maybe this is/was the company which was behind feser to produce the admirals and making their own thing now ? :rolleyes:

Looks interesting.

Very interesting article. So the real manufacturer is "Lötters Metallwaren GmbH". I like the plastic inserts idea for screw mounts. Still very puzzled about actual performance, and water flow resistance... 3x140 is priced at 185 euro, which makes the SR-1 look cheap.

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Originally Posted by bundymania

I found this today:

http://hw-lab.com/thermalfins-a-new-...ercooling.html

maybe this is/was the company which was behind feser to produce the admirals and making their own thing now ? :rolleyes:

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LOL, awesome!

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X-series radiators are already in full-scale production and will be available from March 2011 at Thermalfins e-shop, followed by Xs line-up presented in April.

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Waiting for pricing! :D

More here:

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...cooling-2.html

Nice I can't wait to see Skinnee's review.

Gotta love how they are marketing the use of tubes connected in serial as an advantage. heheheh

This is interesting to see something actually[somewhat] new in PC rad design. I'm not sure it will be better than what we have now.

I'd think if Lötters Metallwaren was investing to bring this to market, they'd have a good idea if it's a competitive design.

I know nothing of this company, living in US though. Time/objective testing will tell the tale, doubt anyone in the know will pop for these without such testing.:up:

An interesting side tail seems to exist here, I read that FrozenCPU invested a tidy sum with Feser, to develop this rad design. I wonder what the real story is behind all this.:shrug:

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Originally Posted by the finisher

An interesting side tail seems to exist here, I read that FrozenCPU invested a tidy sum with Feser, to develop this rad design. I wonder what the real story is behind all this.:shrug:

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:poke: for drama

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Someone care to explain to me how SS is supposed to be better than copper or brass? Is it the "stainless" part, because I remember steel plugs.

FTA "And there is no need to worry about electro-chemical erosion, since wetted parts are not made of aluminum but steel instead."

Waiting for the P&P.

I don't think SS is better, I have no idea how this will perform. I use TC rads, and am happy. So, I'm not in the market for new, and improved.

However a new design is interesting, I'll wait for testing before I go hating on this somewhat new rad. It's still a tube type rad.


@Quagmire LXIX, what's P&P?:shrug: And I don't want any drama, I'm just curious.

It's been like 5 months since they released pics of the radiators... can we have them now?