Retail Q9650 Overclocking Thread

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Originally Posted by road-runner

Where are you in greenland or the northpole to get those temps on air?

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i wish.. but if you guys wanna know: seattle area

4.9ghz @ 71 F ambient just like my 1st q9650

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Originally Posted by xguntherc

I have the eVGA 750i and I've hit a 470 FSB.. and could probably do more but not tried yet.. thats over 4.2 Ghz on my Q9650.. So my 750i is workin pretty good so far.

also to Napalm and all you others.. question. I see you said that your not sure anyone could hit 4.5 Ghz with a 500w PSU.. and I see your point. I have the Corsair HX520. I've heard they are really good PSU's. but today I saw something that worried me. I downloaded CPUID's HwMonitor. and the PSU voltages were NOT good. Here. check it out for yourself.

Now this is a SS of my system. with 4.0 Ghz at 444FSB.. with a 1:1 Divider and my GTX260 from 576MHz to 730 Mhz. (great Card.) and the temps.. bla bla bla.
Here's what worried me. I've said a few times before that my PSU's 12v rail was running at 11.92 but this is what HwMontitor reads.. NOT good. but could be wrong.

12v Rail is at 7.39v.. (Can't be right) I'd be having Major issues right? I just played 3 hours of HL2 EP1 with NO problems at 4.0 Ghz. There's no way it would be stable with 7.30v on 12v rail right?
then the 3.3 is at 3.0v thats ok i guess. then the 5v at 4.56. thats ok but could be better. (Are these wrong)

In the BIOS the 12v rail reads 11.92 instead of this 7.36v BS.. So I'm just not sure now. and Napalm, you said a 500w couldn't push 4.5 Ghz.. what would.. the Corsair Hx620.. or should I go bigger? 750, 800. and also do you think my current PSU is "NOT" enough.. or is it ok?

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dont trust soft..

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Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Please use a multimeter to measure rails voltages (and make sure it has a good 9v. bat in it)...

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thanks Jor3lBR

use a mm to monitor

520watt psu is not adequate for 4.5ghz.. no way no how unless its a godly 520watt psu

suggestion: 750watt pcpower&cooling

you know you dont have to buy more psu/mobo/cooler/what not.. like ive said in an earlier post.. enjoy the hardware/oc that you already got

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Originally Posted by Devious

If your name is NapalmV5 :p:




@ Bigslappy

Any luck getting near 500FSB with the EP45-UD3P ?

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Originally Posted by andressergio

:rofl: guess i'll rename for NapalmV6 :rofl: then buy a Q9650, very lucky guy

cheers and congratz Nap for your B batches !

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thanks

name/luck has nothing to do with 2 x q9650 @ 4.9ghz on air.. are you guys suggesting that i got 2 golden q9650 now? lol

how many q9650 do i have to show you guys @ 4.5/4.8/4.9ghz ? :D

while it may be my skillz.. if one of you would follow my foot steps.. you too would see how easy these clocks are :)

Hey guys,

I noticed cpu-z differs a fair bit from what I have cpu volts set at in the bios, which do you go by?

dont worry what vcore cpuz shows.. go by bios

multimeter @ chokes is another vcore monitor option

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Originally Posted by markost

Yeah, 780i boards good for about 440-450FSB, 790i boards a little better to around 475, some reports are higher but I'm yet to get one that does. Tried 3 Striker 2 Extremes and they all max'd out around 475 using 2 different QX9650's. Main thing though is that they become unstable at high (more than 4.2 GHZ) CPU speeds regardless of multi used. The good thing is that they are a genuinely fast boards although they don't overclock as well as P45, X38 or X48 chipsets.

Have 2 identical machines, one has a Striker 2 Extreme and the other a Rampage Extreme. The Rampage clocks noticeably higher and benches higher generally ( except memory read & latency ) , but the Striker based system is way faster in Windows and is game killer with 2 x GTX 280's. I have not tried any Crossfire setups so graphics performance may be equal to or better than an SLi setup !@!

Bottom line is........If you want bragging rights for overclocking ( and don't misunderstand here, the guys in this thread deserve all the praise we can bestow) go Intel chipset. If you want an extremely responsive system, go the 790i setup. Your clocks will definitely not be as high but Windows will be lightening fast when matched up with the right ancillary hardware. However, be warned that nVidia chipsets are not as easy to clock successfully as Intel. Be prepared for some painful episodes before you get it right, but it is worth it.

I've got a Gigabyte EP45T Extreme coming in tomorrow as that seems to be one of the favoured board's in this thread and I'll see how it performs. If it outperforms the Striker 2 Extreme ( in all around responsiveness and not purely overclocking numbers which I'm sure it will do easily ) then to quote NapalmV5 " I'll napalm ASUS" and move on.

Taking all into account though, I have not clocked either of these systems successfully over 4.5GHz ( with a quad that is ..) and big things happen speed wise when you get over that number with high FSB speeds..

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thanks

interested/wanna see what your 2x qx9650 do on the ep45t extreme

im gettin the ep45t extreme tomorrow aswell

Thanks Napalm,

I'm perplexed as I set my vcore to 1.33 and under load (P95)with LLC off, cpu-z is showing 1.24 and that's the most vdroop I've ever had on any P35/X48.

This is using my UD3P.

I didn't re-install cpu-z after changing from my Q6600, I don't think that would make any difference.

That's where I'm scratching my head.

Edit: I'm also a little hesitant to use LLC on a regular basis as I can't make heads or tails if the *spike* theory is fact or fiction encompassed with degrading.

Setting 1.33 in the bios also shows 1.23-1.24 without load in cpu-z, so something is just not right here.

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Originally Posted by Deathspine

markost could you share you bios settings for this nice overclock:up:. I just purchased a QX9650 and given the challange of getting this motherboard stable with a dual core, I should would like a head start with this quad core. I took me :shrug:a week to get this motherboard stable when I first got it. Thanks in advance.

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http://markostnetworking.com/benching/Striker 2 Extreme/

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Originally Posted by NapalmV5

thanks

interested/wanna see what your 2x qx9650 do on the ep45t extreme

im gettin the ep45t extreme tomorrow aswell

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Be about 5 odd days till I get a chance though !

I have mine set at 1.375 bios, LLC disabled on the UD3P. Cpuz says 1.264 full load...

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Originally Posted by markost

http://markostnetworking.com/benching/Striker 2 Extreme/

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:)Thanks, this should be an excellent starting point. I have the same motherboard, memory and in a few days same cpu. Next weekend I will update my watercooling.:clap::clap::clap:

screw the i7, I'll try to get a Q9550 E0 :p

the 9550 E0's are being shipped from newegg now.. everyone's getting E0's is what I've heard.

thank you for the suggestions guys. So Napalm. your saying I should get the PC PC 750w PSU.. what about some other 750w.. or is PC P&C one of the best. I heard they were Godly LOUD.. and they are not modular so I'd have cables everywhere. but I can sacrifice some cables everywhere in order to hit 4.5 Ghz or more.. lol.

So you think a big part of my problem might be the fact that I only have a 520w PSU.. also do you think it could be causing any problems currently.. like do you think I'm maxing it out. right now.??

and how would I use the digital multimeter with my system still hooked up. or would I unplug that wire going to my Mobo and test it.. or what would I do there.. and so should I go by the 11.92 that I saw in my BIOS instead.. thats better, but not great. and don't worry. I'm enjoying my hardware right now. but I'm always wanting to change things and try new things and what not. i may, or may not get a new PUS. but I want to.. even more so if this one is getting maxed out.. also would a 750o PCP&C be enough for SLI 260's.

oh and guys. question.

How well would a Swiftech 120.1 RAD and water cooling system with a ULTRA KAZE cool my Q9650. would it be better than my Tuniq, or a TRUE.. or no not really. I'm possibly going to trade someone his swifty 120.1 setup for some keyboard and mouse I have.. they are worth $100.. but I'm only paying $20 bucks for them.. so I know price wise it's a good deal. but will that cool good enough to make me happy.. or will it not be any better than current cooling? let me know please?

thanks!

xguntherc

the 520w psu/tuniq cooler is not enough for 4.5ghz..

once youll get a beefier psu/cooler than youll run into the mobo/chipset wall

if the 750i handles 500fsb great if not than your best shot is p45 and please no asus p45 if you want an easy 500x9

Cool..

thanks for the straight answer.. I might need a new PSU then soon. lol. sadness.. also I'm lookin to go water, or get a TRUE.. is the IFX-14 better than the TRUE?

thanks for all the input!!

Hey markost, lots of good advice! sounds like for me the rampage x would be the way to go for a noobie overclocker like myself, but a got a few Q's for ya:

is the qx worth the double price over the q?
ddr3 worth it or can i use my OCZ Reapers(2g ddr2 1066 pc8500)?
rampage good with sli(gtx280's)?

things i've read say the intel chips are easier to clock, (like you said) and that there friendlier to quads and sli, true?

one last Q, you have water cooling on your regulators??(what are those):shrug:

oh yeah from my last post i said about having a slot or vid card problem , confirmed! it's the flipin #1 slot on the board, guess i,m updateing sooner than i thought.

can't wait to get into this , those AMD numbers are SOOO weak compared to what you guys are gettin!! who cares if it's dollar for dollar the q6600 is just as good if not better and the Beater phemon 9850 is as good as it gets!!

time to step up! thanks again for the input ,

SG,

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Originally Posted by SrgtGoat

is the qx worth the double price over the q?
ddr3 worth it or can i use my OCZ Reapers(2g ddr2 1066 pc8500)?
rampage good with sli(gtx280's)?

one last Q, you have water cooling on your regulators??(what are those):shrug:
SG,

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Only get a QX9650 if you can't get over 450 FSB and from what I see in this thread the Q9650 clocks way better. Yeah DDR3 is faster but also more expensive at this point.

SLi only with nVidia chipsets ( not for long though). Crossfire with Rampage.

I just received the Gigabyte EP45t - Extreme but won't get a chance to try it till later this week. NapalmV5 is on the ball here and I'm going to try his setup and see what happens, even if that means getting a Q9650 as well to see "exactly" how much better it clocks over the QX.
I seriously think that this is the last throw at socket 775 so it would pay to get the research right if you are going to fork out over 3k for hardware.

Regulator block is from Alphacool (old photo. using 3/8 tubing now)

Watercooling

Regulator Waterblock

Rampage / OCZ ReaperX

Striker 2 Formula / Reaper 9200

I'd say get the Q9650.. it's E0 stepping is better than the QX.. and it can clock just as higher.. or higher.

also Markost. thats a crazy sweet H20 setup. i wish I had it. Did you see my post above. is the Swiftech 120.1 RAD and ULTRA KAZE any good. would it cool better than my Tuniq, or a TRUE. as I might get that setup. even though it's cheap and CPU only. I really wanna put water on my CPU. as the GFX card doesn't need it for now. but I don't have $300 to add water to this thing.

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Originally Posted by Loque

screw the i7, I'll try to get a Q9550 E0 :p

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Originally Posted by xguntherc

the 9550 E0's are being shipped from newegg now.. everyone's getting E0's is what I've heard.

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I noticed that too. If the E0 Q9550 gets to reach the same FSB level as the Q9650 does, it'd sure be a great bargain (esp. for poor boys like me ;))!

Shall we include the Q9550/E0 discussion in this thread (needs to update the thread title then), or start a new thread focusing on the Q9550/E0 alone? Anyone?

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Originally Posted by NapalmV5

name/luck has nothing to do with 2 x q9650 @ 4.9ghz on air.. are you guys suggesting that i got 2 golden q9650 now? lol

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Just kiddin' my friend :up:

Just wanna buy a B batch but no way anyone assures that, and this country is so painful on taxes that if i get an A i will get sad...so have to wait

Cheers mate keep on rockin' on that clocks :up:

Sergio

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Originally Posted by andressergio

Just kiddin' my friend :up:

Just wanna buy a B batch but no way anyone assures that, and this country is so painful on taxes that if i get an A i will get sad...so have to wait

Cheers mate keep on rockin' on that clocks :up:

Sergio

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Sergio,

The A should overclock just as good or better then the B's... I got an A and it was running 1.22vcore 1.1vtt with Intel stock cooler @ 4000Mhz.

If you check the Quad OC history most of the top guns where always A stepping. :up:

A stepping.. you mean A in the batch number..?

Just get a E0 Q9550. or a Q9650 and you'll be happy. any one will more than likely hit 4.0 ghz on air.. most have with no problems.

Installed a UD3P tonight and at last ive managed to boot at 500FSB which i couldnt get near with my Asus boards.

Ive left nearly everything on auto iin the bios which imressed me but looking on easytune its raised some of voltages to scary levels:eek: which probably explains the 500FSB

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8094/capturedf8.jpg

Its not stable at all, it will run prime small FFT for a few mins before BSOD but blend fails instantly.

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Originally Posted by Devious

Installed a UD3P tonight and at last ive managed to boot at 500FSB which i couldnt get near with my Asus boards.

Ive left nearly everything on auto iin the bios which imressed me but looking on easytune its raised some of voltages to scary levels:eek: which probably explains the 500FSB

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8094/capturedf8.jpg

Its not stable at all, it will run prime small FFT for a few mins before BSOD but blend fails instantly.

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Nice start. Once you get that joker tweaked hopefully you'll be fine. My 24/7 goal is 500x9. Once i find a board that'll do that fsb i'll pick up a few more chips. ive been waiting on quad results for that UDP board. I'll get that one or try the one Napalm is using.

weird.. your not on insane volts.. at 4000 with 8 multi CPU-Z shows 1.296v.. thats not very high.

and my machine at 4.3 Ghz on 1.3456v fails Small FFT's instantly, but blend goes for about 10 mins then system crashes BSOD. and Large runs for aboug 5 mins. but I'm still tweaking and need better coooling.

but I've managed a 478 FSB on my 750i and I'm sure I could get it stable with the right tweaks.

How can I tell from the Intel retail box if Im getting a E0 or a C1?