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pifast for tomorrow, no more single stage, we'll play three stages :D
w00t :D hope you wont have that darn fsb wall GL with it tyrou .
I have that stupid fsb wall, but around 284Mhz for now, and it goes better and better when the temp lowers :)
How much better? NJKId's cpu is giving me fits. Tops out @ 242 FSB :rolleyes: I may have to try it @ -141C this weekend, but don't even want to waste my time if it only gets me 5 more mhz :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrou
266 with aircooling, 284 with singlstage, I hope 300 at -100 or lower :D
Tyrou your one of the luck ones:) Nice cpu!
Nice results from you two!
Nice results guys,i'm still waiting to play with my stepping 8 es because there are still no mobo's here in the uk :(
By KUBOKUBO
Overlooked to post his result under DICE....
modPI 1.5 XS 1M: 16.641s @3601.3MHz (FSB277MHz x 13)
http://kubokubo.jp/cpu/coreduo_t2600...601_277x13.gif
Does running high Vio help here?Quote:
Originally Posted by CAL930
I remember using it for ddr1 mb with direct rail vdimm mods :)
we just saw 285 , but albert your 300 fsb is with a 10 multi isn`t itQuote:
Originally Posted by albertwesker
:) :)
What's the highest stable with air on a Yonah? 3.2 GHz?
Oh boy, oh boy... :slapass:
I think, I might have a record - not the highest but the lowest clocking T2600ES in this thread :D ?
A QHJJ Yonah (one of the original FCG cpu's)... max 215fsb on air (well, that's with an "upgraded" boxed cooler (with a stupidly loud 70x25mm fan), but nevertheless) :bsod:
Ouch :( that hurts. I dont feel so bad now. My 2500ES would only do 211. The good news is that these are like buses, if one doesn't take you where you want to go, there is another one waiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
I'm sure someone with a notebook would love to have it.
s7e9h3n> Is there a reason why the cpu can't run ALL the benches
s7e9h3n> @ the same speed as 1M?
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G H Z said all in the suceeding post;)
And,
G H Z> One thing that is missing from Team Japan I am curious about.
G H Z> Container temperatures with DI or LN2.
G H Z> Are they running full LN2 temps or controlled?
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In my case, loosely controlled around -120~-140deg-C.
I felt that under -150deg-C makes no help.
I don't know CAL930's case, but he shows same FSB limit at both
DryIce and LN2, so I think that even -100 is almost enough...
kiwi> Does running high Vio help here?
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Vcca-mod depends on Vio, so it's a main purpose, at least in my case.
mrlobber> A QHJJ Yonah (one of the original FCG cpu's)... max 215fsb on air
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Here in Japan, my friends got same results too:(
Only the luck dominates it...
Man that sucks, I have FCG T2600 sitting here. Looks like I might use it for a HTPC rig or soemthing :(
Did some runs last night (its 2:20 am here..) - 01-06 in the morning, am :D
Please note: no mods done, and step4, GFX used @ sapphire x1900XTX watercooled.. (no mods neither)
- MinusTube + LN2
Didnt reboot between runs..
PiFast: 30.98
SPI 1M: 17.375s
SPI 32M: 16m 27.782 (didnt save in paint.. Due to I thought better run would be easy..)
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GFX ran: 800/900 or 800/930, dont remember, watercooled, no hardmods.
01SE: 49634
05: 15193
EDIT: Sloppy, its sure not that bad, Im quite sure hardmods would give me another 15FSB, that would be 3640mhz - gonna try it sooner or later =) - But dont know if I have enough LN2 left, wasted alot on makin' a bit fun ;)
LOL...I was just figuring if there's a FSB limit, then the cpu should be able to run ALL tests @ the same speed, but obviously that theory can be thrown out the window :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
I think I'm done playing with this cpu on air. Next stop....-150C :D Here's the results from some limited testing. Don't mind the Vcores as they're all over the place. I was just trying to see if the voltages affected the OC's/temps in any way...doesn't seem like it made too much of a difference....GOD I HATE THIS FSB BUG :p: :
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8083/13x2421m1lt.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8270/13x2418m6od.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1...x24032m8we.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/519...dual32m9zi.jpg
odd, using CAS#3 or ras to cas #2, just make it freeze / no boot here... - No matter memclock etc...
Stephen, you do know 1 aint best as Tras, right ? :p:
Nice CPU you got mate, pair it w1th your x850XTPE, and you got one fast 01SE machine :D
50K should be nooo problemo ;)
Very nice results both of you. I've heard that tRAS 1 sometimes gives a little more headway memory-wise. Shouldn't hurt performance much, if at all.
tRAS 2 can be tricky depending on what modules you got. D9 based something is what I'm guessing for most here, but things look kind of fishy. Seems like some modules are "tuned" for very tight latencies, but have trouble scaling once they're loosened. Others are quite the opposite. Trick is to find what yours likes the best and go with it.
Hehehe...not on Intel ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
Bleh, this cpu sux :D I tried to boot the x850xtpe last night, but my insulation on the card sucked so I wasn't able to get into windows. I'll redo the insulation over the weekend and see if I can take 10K down in 05 ;)
Thx Gautam
Well, I tested with pifast, best one for me was tras 8, I thought it would be 4, but 8 was best :\
Stephen, go for it mate ;)
Gunning for 16K @ 05 tomorrow, on x1900XTX..
Speaking of memperformance, Tras, tRAS, well.... When you say that on the fly, how do you pronounce it? I'm the only one saying "Trash" ? :p: (enough OT, Im going to bed, hmm, speakin' of pronounciation, FUGGER, how is that pronounced? :D )
Lol...I just pronounce them how they're written - TRAS -> like "trash" without the "h". FUGGER -> like "FUKKER" with two "G's" :p: (or Charles).....Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
Not to put any pressure on you or anything but whats the hold up !!?? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I'd freeze mine but rig won't boot now for some reason. Was your BIOS really corrupted, I'm thinking that might be my problem also.
Nice looking scores Bier ;)
M/B: AOpen i975Xa-YDG
CPU: T2600ES QKHK 8 @ 3498Mhz
CPU Cooling: Single stage ... :D
Memory: 5400UL - 448Mhz 4-3-2-4
VGA: X1900 Crossfire - with box coolers :D
HDD: WD Raptor 36GB
Power Supply: PCP 510w
Vcore: 1.64V, Vdimm: 2.40V
OS: Windows XP SP2
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6808/192850pp.png
and also a new highest frequency (probably fsb limited) :
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=90181
cascade action on the cpu is scheduled for today, I have to find something to make the Crossfire work faster, the cascade I used, even set to its lowest power made the cards cold bug like hell :D no way to get even a single score...
LOL....cuz I don't have my autocascade atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Have you done the "cold-boot" mod to the board? I can't enter bios when then mobo temp is below 0. It basically gives me a blue line on the bottom with a cursor on the top left corner. If I boot in positive temps, I can enter bios......
No mods yet, need to try my other board I guess. You did the Tcore mod for cold boot already, doesn't it work on your board?
Same hereQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Does your mod work? What resistor is that?
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7374/tcore3ys.jpg
Thats nice QKHK there Tyrou:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrou
Mine stuck @250ish:(
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5...shot0933sa.jpg
I'm not sure exactly what the tcore mod is supposed to accomplish :p: I have no problems booting into windows, but I can't get into bios when sub-zero. The T-core mod allows me to adjust cpu temps ~30C while in bios, but I think I may need a different value pot as this may not be enough to "fool" the mobo into thinking temps are positive ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Wow Dumo, now I know there was something wrong with my Yonah 05 run, that beats mine by over 1K and I ran 922/900 XTX with 3.2Ghz :slapass:
*Edit thats CF isn't it Dumo, silly me haha :D
BTW Tyrou, killer score! Find some more single stages for those cards ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...00-3204mhz.jpg
I believe the mod works, but I may be still a bit too cold for the mod to function correctly. The purpose of the mod is to allow your cpu temp to be adjusted with the pot. The mod allows me to adjust temps on the cpu ~30C above actual temp. That pic was using a 20K pot set to maximum value. Please don't show that pic again :p: I'm quite embarassed about the shoddy solder job I did. I've since redone the mod using a 1-turn 100K pot so I could experiment with different values, but in the end I ended up using 21K to max the temp out:Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9724/tcore22eb.jpg
Much better Stephen :)
Does anybody know how the board maker flashes the BIOS on these soldered on chips? Seem to me there must be a way after the chip is in place for a corrupt BIOS problem.
Why do you think your bios is corrupted?Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
beehh got a 18 sec on that speed.......:banana: :p:
No error codes on boot. The guide doesn't mention a CPU error tone so it could be the chip I guess, almost a toss up with the cost of this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
lol...show me your 8m on air again???? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rol-Co
Are you sure cuz it looks like you were running 3224Quote:
Originally Posted by Rol-Co
http://rol-co.nl/images/waus2.jpg
What does "no error codes on boot" mean? Do you have a debug card?Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
i'm gona kill you with that after i finnish'd with sub zero.......:rolleyes:
@njkid32
that was waus-mod's cpu under single stage
stephen already got the 19.000 sec @ 242.2 from me,........he's crying atm....
looking for any Yonah help/advice....
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...3&page=1&pp=30
thanks for any input (except flames ;))
basic overview, cant boot >1.3Vcore ... BSOD's
Joe_Camel, I've looked at your 2005 result, now is that mach II on CPU or GPU ??? // LN2 on CPU or GPU ? :)
my best 05's had: chilly1 SS on cpu and MachII on GPU (see sig)
never worked with LN2/Dice (yet ;))
Ohh, just saw that chilly1 thing, thought it was tube, hehe :D
Wuhuu, seems like my x1900XTX is highest watercooled on tha orb, and more to come, Im kind'a hoping top get top3 =) - More action tonight :)
boot @ 166fsb? or 200? you're problem could be there but then you got a terrible cpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Camel
with jumpers off the board boot @ 200fsb /2600mhz default
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same "V-wall" with any setting:
with or without red jumpers, boot V jumper @ stock or high
D9 memory or cheep-o Geil
6600GT, x850, 1900's crossfire
win2k SP4 or XP
Maxtor HD or WD HD
"as shipped" BIOS or 1.3
sparkle 550 or Zippy 700 PSU
setup as is now...(pulled the HSF)
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1652/pict05091yn.jpg
Big Typhoon contact patch:
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/194...05067zp.th.jpg
(mobo and chip off classifieds here from AndreYang)
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/635...05074bs.th.jpg
PS i could never get the 6600GT's drivers to load (win2k)
edit: other observations:
CPU-z still reads Vcore wrong with win2k but works fine with XP
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if ANYBODY would be SOOOO kind :worship: as to loan me a known "working" chip&mobo so i can figure out which is my problem ill gladly pay shipping (US 48) and/or... etc... PM me
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It was an unpleasant surprise for me as well to see the bios chip soldered to the board. Last time I saw something like that in a solid priced board was back in the DFI nF2 Infinity earlier revision days.
I really wonder what do we do if the bios chip got corrupted :rolleyes:
One T2600 dead, tried it in my other board earlier today :(
Damn...sorry to hear bro...any idea how?Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Nope, running on air unmodded @ 1.5V. Ran fine for the 15K session, the next day it just wouldn't boot anymore.
Max FSB on air: 229 :/ ( even with multi 10).
Max stable on air: 2900. QKHK stepping.
I can live with it, fast enough :).
Ahh sorry man that was the only ss I could find:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rol-Co
NP here it is, scorestephencouldnotreach :DQuote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
:banana:
Do you check the socket again? I have some experience, The socket must tight.Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3536/5680zd.gif he mierenneuker http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3536/5680zd.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Rol-Co
OMG LOL hahahaha stephen is learning dutch :D
it is with multi 11 but my ram can't run @ 500 MHz, so i have to set the 4:3 devider and that's slower than 275 Mhz FSB @ 458 4-3-2-8Quote:
Originally Posted by mine
do you have an screen albert?
Waus, please take a look at this
M.Beier:
Is that by any chance step 4 cpu from FCG?
265 fsb is not bad at all for step 4 :)
It is :)
But no mods, I think theres' a few mhz in modding... 1.404v aint much, now is it ? ;)
Very nice :) My cpu (also from FCG) does 231 max under vapo without mods either. Very soon board will be modded and then dice is next
Here's my contribution:
T2600 with single-stage cooling (stock Vapochill LS)
AOpen i975Xa-YDG (no mods)
Corsair 8000UL
Untweaked XP SP2
Thank you Tyrou for the IHS. :toast:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/17/1m177813ql.jpg
Cool :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
Please keep me notifed with gain @ mods :)
Im strongly considering getting them fixed =)
Looks good Sierra :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Dammit...everyone's got their cpu's clocked pretty decent....I think I'm gonna mount my Baker GPU phase on this setup until I get my auto back :p:
Pffft, mine isn't clocking decent.
With the chilly phase I can get up to 3100MHz but then it's an instant freeze :(.
Stable at plus minus 3020 MHz :/
That's a 100MHz gain from aircooling :D. And I'm suffering the coldboot coldbug, I have to boot at positive temps ...
new SPi 1M WR : 15.953s
http://www.tyrou.net/screens/15953WR.PNG
dedicated thread... -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...32#post1427232
Congrats to a amazing record! Tried to bench 3d at that speed? :D
Holy moly
sick mem timings ....
and fast speed ofcourse :D
:toast:
I ran some 3D01 at the same core clock, I'll post the screens in the evening (GMT+2)
You have a very special Yonah chip, Tyrou. I'm very envious. Can't wait to see your 3DMark bench.
Congrats TYROU, Nice Chip you got
thanks :)
http://www.tyrou.net/screens/54418.PNG
:toast:
OMFG tyrou.. thats amazing... really sick!! will update shortly
Wow Tyrou, that's the highest FSB I've ever seen on a Yonah..
Anyone know if there is something similiar to Clockgen for overclocking this CPU on a 945 chipset/Laptop? Clockgen doesn't work on my Acer laptop, and i would like to see what this things got :p:
congrats:toast:
Think you take 05 now with some good x1900
you have the same power as a FX60 @3900:banana: :banana:
I think my bios is corrupted too.Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
It hangs on Aopen Bootlogo and nothing happens.
Sometimes it hangs on Building DMI Data, but still no boot.
If i cant get it to work, i desolder it and try to flasch it.
Damn it, modded board but still stuck at 231 under vapo. Will try dice, might be one of the worst step 4 cpus :(
vcore: 1.5V-1.63
vdimm: 2-2.3V
pci-e: 100-125
Sell it and get another kiwi :)
cal930
Very Very Goood :toast:
http://cal930.sakura.ne.jp/cgi-bin/c...00ES_15969.png
:woot:
I need to mod my board and put it under DICE...:D
Congrats: :clap:
Do you have some more details (cooling, RAM)?
just guessing, but I'd say DI and Corsair 5400Pro C4 @ 4-3-2-2 :D
How close can you get :DQuote:
Originally Posted by boblemagnifique
Ask Kyosen ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
0,001sec after no1 earlier in this thread :p: :D
Japan vs. France :D :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
By OMEGA
New modPI 1.5 XS 8M WR on April 29/06
3m05.375s @3708.7MHz (FSB285.3MHz x 13)
http://premium1.uploadit.org/fredyam...s-by-OMEGA.jpg
Wow :slobber:
How many is there of you? :D :cool:
Seems that someone is always breaking a WR from you guys.
Would'nt try and think what Conroe is going to do when you lot get your hands on some :D :slobber:
Here are his complete specs:Quote:
Originally Posted by boblemagnifique
M/B: AOpen i975Xa-YDG
CPU: T2600ES
CPU Cooling:LN2
Memory: TeamXtreemPC2-6400(DDR2-800)1GBĂ—2
VGA: X800GTO
HDD: S-ATA WD1500ADFD
Power Supply: Zippy-500GE(3.3VMOD)
Vcore: 1.63V, Vdimm: 2.72V
OS: Windows Server 2003
MEM: 4-3-2-4 3:5
Vio:3.78
aopen guys, im in despair! ever since i got the mobo, ive been getting the CRC failure/error or file corruption error, sometimes i can install windows and the errors occur after. sometimes during winxp installation when the copying of files (right after the hdd format) reach 90-92%, even thats not consistent. i can run 3dmark all day long if im able to install it. i can run the 'burn in' sysoft sandra @ full load, cpu is stable. i can move large files across hard drives non-stop. the CRC errors occur when i try to install nero for ex. or any other large .exe, small applications dont seem to be affected
3 hard drives, same errors
3 controllers, same errors
multi combo of the hard drives/controllers, same errors
hard drives + controllers work fine no issues watsoever
no matter what cpu clock/voltage
Yonah T2600
Aopen i975xa-ydg - duh!
GSkill DDRII800 2GBHZ
Sapphire x1900xtx
Creative X-fi
FSP 700-watt PSU
WinXP
have been battling this 2+ weeks.. im exhausted.. nothing else i can do.. anything u guys can do before i rma?
Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Hmm I have had simialar probs and I went crazy and checked everything 1k times. And it was my sata cable the whole time.
dat must have been quite a relief.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
no such luck here.. :(
Bios? 1.03 or later?
BTW, where can I get beta bios after 1.03?
Congrats to insane clocks Tyrou!!! wow !
Lost my Stepping 8 CPU unfortunately to at least give you a race - and have to work on a stepping 4 for now:
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4954/168b1xu.jpg
At least I have the crown for the step 4 :rolleyes:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=91321
EDIT: Cooling was Single Stage LN2 did not help any for more clocks
by far the best I saw so far for a stepping 4
congrats and a virtual
:toast: @cocanut grove
@kiwi:
1.01 - 1.03 @ AOpen
1.03b: *here* or *here*
second link is down, stummerwinter ;)
*fixed*
should work now...;)
What is of what are the difference with the bios files?
1.03 <=> 1.03b ?