Yup, mine is exactly the same, about .02 (in win) under what is set in the bios.
1.45v=1.41v in windows.
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Yup, mine is exactly the same, about .02 (in win) under what is set in the bios.
1.45v=1.41v in windows.
mine is ~0.04
set 1,35 in windows it is 1,3
There is no indication that the offset is constant. or for that matter that it is linear or predictably exponential.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punkas
Without comparing the same CPU and cooling at different temperatures you cannot just go in and say "15 degrees off all the time".
DFI NF4 (nonexpert) motherboards pretty much always display that much lower.
For idle you get what you set in the BIOS.
For busy you get 0.025 V higher, and that is without any change in the sensors report. That sensor must sit in front of whatever unit raises the voltage on load.
whats your lowest Vcore @default clocks?
greetz
Not bad.. much better than my 0550 UPMW (ran way tooo hot). Time to remove IHS and get a 0551 UPMW.
CCBWE 0551 VPMW 300x9 = 2700 w/1.40v + 104%
Attachment 43117
who is that in the background?Quote:
Originally Posted by bmac11
Brooke Burke :slobber:
Can't get my Patriot 4800 to run 1t @ 250 :( Time for a 2gb kit then.
seems to me after reading through this thread that the 165's & 170's are the highest overclockers out there....so if you were going to buy one which would it be?
To say they are the highest clocking is somewhat incorrect. To say they are the most popular is more on the mark. Anything above a 170 just isnt a very good value. To answer your question, it really depends on how much you want to spend. They both pretty much overclock the same give or take 100mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
Vote for 170 ad above for x10 multi...165 with x9 multi have slimmer chance to get more than 2700mhz:fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
It also depends on the stepping ... I have 2 sealed unopened retail 165 0550 UPMWs and someone offered me $1,000 for them
And you still have them? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
Yes and they are still sealed
Hey, I am to get Opty 170 thru my relatives in NJ. Which are the recent stepping doing good? Also has anyone come across 06XX 170/175? Thanks in advance.
I got a Opteron 165 now:
Its a CCB1E 0550 VPMW if i remember correctly.
I can run 2600 MHz @ 1.35v Dual prime stable for more than 9.30 hours. But is stopped the testing @ that point.
I can do 2690 MHz @ 1.43-1.44v. ( Max of My A8R-MVP :slapass: )
Cooling air: Zalman 9500.
My Asus A8R is realy holding me back. Venice could only get 1.52v. So i need a new RD580 board fast.
Abit AT8 X32 or a DFi. No More asus for me :nono:
i have seen a 4400+ X2 CCB2E 0553 cpu's go 2800 MHz @ 1.4v and 2900 @ 1.55 Thats a lot faster than my 165. Also air cooled.
lol:slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
:p:
Actually teh 0550UPMW and 0550VPMW are the best Clockers!
PeteX has an 170 CCBWE0550VPMW and his Chip makes under Water
2x3100Mhz Primestable with 1,426Vc wiht HS still on.
well all opterons are = temp sensitive too hot or too cold and they clock poorly... whether a stepping clocks well might need to take into a/c ambient/cooling tempsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rufus7
i'm sure my opterons would clock higher if my room ambient wasn't 29-33C even after 1HP portable air con is running!
chilly European folks have it good ambient wise :)
Yeah Eva 2000 ind Australia is Summer we have Winter Eva 2000!!!!
you are living down under.
In 6 Months it will be changing! You will have Winter and we will have Summer.
But we have Aqua Medic Titan Waterchiller in Europe.lol
Here´s a List with Dualcore Results. always 3hs Dualprime 24.14 Custom FFts in place.
From old germany HWLXX.
Look under the Signature from PeteX he has the Forum record with 2x3100Mhz an 1,456Vc under Watercooling and HS still on.
The Screen is from Pete_X at the beginnig of his Testing yesterday.
http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?i...45602231mb.jpg
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=167156
Luftkühlung=Aircooled
Wasserkühlung= Watercooling
our winter in Australia is like your summer in that part of europe ROFLQuote:
Originally Posted by Rufus7
winter is getting warmer in Australia last winter average room ambient was 26C day and 19-23C night :)
2nd time you mentioned aqua medic titan so googled and found what it is http://www.aquatictech.com/chillers.html and wow, do these work out of the box for water cooling ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
yah i googled it too, those look very interesting:hehe:
If you want more you can buy em from NCIX cheap lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
My stepping is CCB1E 0550 VPMW L50410. But this aint a wonder core :)
Looking good man! Got to the 4 hour mark?Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2...rime9tp.th.gif
Opteron 165 CCBWE 0550 UPMW
9*300 = 2700 Mhz @ 1.34v (Stock!)
8 Hour Dual Prime Stable
:bounces:
Deciding if I want to go to 1.45 (bios) in order to hit 2800 Mhz. I kind of like the idea of a 50% overclock with no extra voltage.
Its realy nice :D better than mine :) 2600 @ 1.34v.Quote:
Originally Posted by foodfightr
Eva 2000 its like this in xxmartins Thread at HWLXX!!!
Read this.
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=202632
And here are Prices for Titan 150-Titan 2000.In Euros in 1Euro~1,20US Dollar.
http://www.mm-aquaristik.de/Shop/pd-637592585.htm?defaultVariants=search0_EQ_Titan%202 50_AND_{EOL}&categoryId=308
Put my 0550 UPMW up for sale in the for sale forum!
:)
Thats nice! im using 1.5 to try and hit 2.8, kinda limited by memory though.Quote:
Originally Posted by foodfightr
Why are you selling it!?
I have two 0550 UPMWs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delirious
Wow,that's better than my 0550UPMW which can only reach 2600Mhz at stock voltage(1.35vBIOS) and needs 1.41v(BIOS, 1.37v in CPU-z) to reach 2700Mhz. My PWMIC temp is about the same as yours but it seems your CPU runs much cooler than mine(60C :mad: ) I'm waiting for the SI-120 which is supposed to arrive in 2 days.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by foodfightr
Soon i will get an 170 Opteron CCB1E0550VPMW. On Friday maybe earlier just bought.
@Rufus: Hiya :D
Yes Folks ... he`s right ... my 0550VPMW is blowing smoke so far ... latest is 10x315@1,504 under Water (IHS is still untouched !) :woot:
Screeny from last night:
10x315@1,504V:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/438...02236tc.th.jpg
Other Results on h2o:
10x310@1,456V
http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/6...02230rw.th.jpg
10x300@1,376V
http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/9...602231j.th.jpg
Guess it`s time for a chiller :toast:
Nice results :)
Hi Pete_X you have the Best Watercooled 170 up to Date.
But soon we will see how good will be my 0550VPMW.
Congrats to your great Chip Pete!!!!!
:woot:
Very nice results, Pete ;)
Thanks for the Flowers :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jupiler
You're welcome.
Glad that you finally managed to register over here. :toast:
Rufus7 :
hope you'll get a good one too. Good luck with the chip.
We will see but i have non Expertboard and my Watercooling is not so good as from Pete_X. THX Jupiler i will post when i get the Chip.
Guys, whats so special about this Expert board ... what is the differrence between it and the ultra - d
Powersupply of the CPU.
Expert has 4 Phases
Non Expert only 3 Phases.
That means higher PWM Temps by the Non Expertboards.
And PWM is the overall power circuit correct
pulse-width modulation integrated circuit. Basically it is the group of mosfets near the corner of the board which regulate the voltage.
Expert also has more advantages than power reg over Ultra. Chipset fan is not in the way of the vid cards and it can run tighter mem timings.
My 165 0551UPMW runs prime stable at 300x9, but it is because the core0 is VERY much weaker. I'm not sure if removing the IHS will help (never done and I'm afraid I will waste the chip...).
But core1 primes up to 315x9 so... any suggestions? It is not a temp or voltage issue. I've tried from stock up to 1.60 (a fast boot -> prime) but it fails instantly in core0. And temps... the higher I get is 44c load in a nonExpert with BT and AS5.
I'm not sure if its worth the risk, because I can run it at 1.4v in bios at around 293x9.
Will the IHS removal make the core0 stronger? Is the TT Big Typhoon ok "as it is" for nonIHS chips or I need to do any mods?
Thanks!
That Asus A8N32x Had 8 Phase power if i'm not mistaking. But i don't whant no Asus anymore after my A8R-MVP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
I'm thinking of a RD580 Board from DFi or Abit. My Ultra D ran quite fine. Much better than this crapy A8R-MVP :\
I'm now priming 2650 MHz @ 1.4v Its 50c @ load. Could not run 2650 MHz @ 1.34v. 2600 Mhz @ 1.35v could prime more than 9 hours.
Not worth taking off IMHO if one core is so much weaker, I have a similar problem with core 1, not stable no matter Vcore anything above 2.9GHz :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
But can't core0 be weaker because of bad IHS contact?
I COULD be. But i don't think so. If that was the case i should have higher core temps than the rest of us. Its a bit risky tho. U could kill the cpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
Ok I will stick to 295x9 or maybe 300x9 with ram 245.5 2-2-2-7 (7 for bandwidth :D ). It also runs way colder as it needs much less volts.
And btw Astennu, 285x9 in your sig is 2565... :stick:
Old CPU :) Got a new Opteron 165 CCB1E 0550 VPMW. But is not the King of clockers :). Need A c-ore mod on this board. My max is 1.45v in this A8R-MVP.Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
hi am new here as u can tell just wanted to pst my results
what program u use to reduce the screenshoots
am runnig my opteron 165 @2998mhz @1,38v i vould like to show u am in iceland
Hi all.
Received my Opty 175 0550 last week.
With air-cooling, (Thermalright XP 120) highest stable speed (dual prime) is 2.64 Ghz.
I decided to put this thing under water (dual heater core, TDX and D4), and highest stable speed is now 2.72ghz 1.55 vcore. Temps are 40 C. load.
It’s always core 0 failing.
Right now I’m running 2.7 ghz 1,52v, 10 hours dual prime stable, But for some reason super pi fails at all speeds. :slapass:
I have tested with underclocked speeds and different memory but superpi still fails (not exact in rounds).
What could be wrong? :stick:
The computer is stable in every other benchmark, game tested.
This is my timmingsQuote:
Originally Posted by cdelong
http://overvoltage.pt/forum/imagens_...gsdualcore.JPG
Strange. i had a similar problem with my old Athlon XP. Maybe A clean install of windows ? And redownload super pi ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
Welcome :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SikO
Nice resulds. Is it Dual prime stable ? Realy nice core u have there. What kind of cooling are u running ? and what is the stepping of the cpu.
If you are using the Ballistix, your problem is 99,99% DRAM related: i have a rig VERY similar to your (Opteron 175 0550 UPMW, XP 120, 2x1Gb Ballistix, CM Stacker, etc.:) )Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
I have tasted your same problem with SuperPi: my weak core is 1 but the core 0 seems to be able to get even 3.0 on air...
The Ballistix are by nature problematic but my Expert mobo increase the difficulty of the task: seems that i need to found the ONLY ONE(!!!) RIGHT SETTING to run perfectly my system with Ballistix ---> i'm asking over the world and of course i'm testing myself all possible settings to get them works fine.
PLUS: the 0550 UPMW seems VERY problematic itself with memory settings (at least the 175,others people reported that), especially with Ballistix ---> i have an explosive combo! :woot:
I'm sure that OC with this 175 stepping as well is restrained by Ballistix's instability
My system is game & bench tested also, without problem...BUT if you run a long session of Windows MemTest i'm pretty sure that lot of errors shows up! :eek:
:welcome: Welcome to XS. Sounds like you got a good 165. Most of us here just use this program to host ss.Quote:
Originally Posted by SikO
http://imageshack.us
Get some pictures up so we can see your great chip. What is the stepping on it?
Nice result :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by SikO
You don't have to resize the image, just upload it to somewhere like...
http://www.imageshack.us and it will give you a link with a thumbnail that you can paste here :)
(or if you really must resize it then imageshack does have a resize option right there on that page)
Quote:
Originally Posted by OTT
I`ll swap my Ballistix with my sticks OCZ EB after work to se if it makes thing stable. Any recommendations for best Bios / mem settings with the combintaon Opteron 175, DFI NF4 Ulta and BAllistX?
I'm still on that...
The Expert works in a (very) different way than a Ultra-D, so my settings are useless to you! (and vice-versa)
That's is why my task is even more difficult with the Expert :(
OMG :| i bought Ballistix because i did not want problems anymore :\ now it seems they are the problem :S. This realy sux.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
I have got a CCB1E 0550 VPMW. Is that a problem combo ? If zo i should be looking voor new ram :'(.
maybe swap to AM2 and just run this one as it is.... I don't know anygood memory of 2x1gb exept ballistix. I would like 300 MHz. or 250 @ cl 2/ 2.5.
someone have problems with tccd memory´s??? my tccd do 300 at 2.5-3-3-6 with 2,85v.. when i put the 165 at 2800mhz the memory do only 260+/- if i put 2900 they do only 240+/- if i pass de 2950 they do only 200.. someone can help me?? :confused:
Yesterday i recieved a opteron 175 0550 UPMW0107, i did some testing but i m already at 1.568 volt to get 2970 mhz stable, how many more volt can i put on the core s to go higher, or do i have to burn in the cpu now to continue ?
Yah if your getting good temps then there is no need to take it off. I poped mine off the other day, and temps are maybe 1-2c better and the overclock is about the same.
My core0 is weak as well, core1 goes all the way up to 311x9(highest i tried) with 1.45v. Core 0 craps out after less than an hour.
Here´s one of my Opteron 170 :
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/4...lprime1.th.jpg
It´s a 0550 VPMW
And here´s an old 0550 UPMW of mine:
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/576...h16v4da.th.jpg
That was my first Opteron 170:
http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/5...ime7h1x.th.jpg
One of the (if not the) best Dual-Core seen so far. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
Outstanding results with heatspreader and default watercooling.
those are some sick reults bud, what a score!
What watercooling you using? and what mobo?
no one can help with the most stable timmings in a64tweaker with opteron 165 e tccd???
Can it be the memory controller in the Optys is weaker? I thought it could be better, but with the SAME settings (except lower voltage) as my Venice, using the timings on my sig, the Everest Latency was:Quote:
Originally Posted by paulopais
Venice 3000+ 300x9, 166 divider: 36.3ns
Opteron 165 300x9, 166 divider: 38.3ns
Maybe it is because the proc is dual core? Never had a DC before
if i put my bh5 memory´s i don´t have any problem.. i use my bh5 at 255 fsb and the cpu at 3000mhzQuote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
All AMD dual cores get worse memory performance than single cores. Something about the shared memory controller, you lose about 500MB/s bandwidth and judging by your results, a few seconds latency. No biggie though, performance is still better by a lot with a DCQuote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
Go to the extreme bandwidth section of the forum for help on memoryQuote:
Originally Posted by paulopais
No one is using the retail heatpipe I see ... I heard it is very good ... on par with the xp120
Why arent any of you using it
I'm using the stock heatpipe HSF. it works just fine, my temp is about 30C idle/51C load @300x9 1.275v%110%. The only problem with this HSF is that it's not as large or tall as those 120mm heatsink which can help cooling the PWMIC and RAM a little bit. I don't have a thermal sensor on the RAM but my PWMIC temp hits 65C under load.:( I'm having a SI-120 which is supposed to come tomorrow, hopefully it will cool down the PWMIC.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
It's best just to put a fan over it and it also helps cool the ram. The TT BT I have did not cool the PWMIC enough so I put a 120mm over it and the ram.Quote:
Originally Posted by dickeywang
Ive been playing with a CCB1E 550 VPMW, it can boot to windows at 3ghz w 1.4v but fails prime instantly. I backed it down to 2.9ghz and tried to get it stable with up to 1.6v, no dice. Seems I too, have a weak core 0. So i tried dual priming at 2850 with 1.55v and it failed around 15 mins. Im not sure what to think of it yet, but it seems to be somewhat better than my 543tpmw which did 2750 stable at 1.55v. I really hope itll be stable at 2850 with no more than 1.575v.
Yeah, I was told to ziptie a fan directly blowing to the PWMIC. Too bad my case doesn't have any places to let me install a side fan. I used to drill holes and put fans on the side panel of my last case, but it was so urgly and I finally had to throw away that case.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
Lowered my price on the 0550 UPMW in the FS forum!
It's getting crowded with 165's in the fs section. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by foodfightr
Pop the IHS, that's what fixed it up for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hybrid
Removing the IHS from my 165 did not make it bench higher. Putting some
AS5 and putting it back on did lower temps just a little.
Popping the top is not a cure-all. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't.
I removed the IHS on my previous 170, it didnt help the OC on that chip at all, and made it harder to get a good mount. Its the reason i bought another 170, is to have one with the IHS untouched.
a good mount? if you're talking phase change, removing the IHS isn't a good idea (IMO).
But for watercooling and select air coolers, should be simple to mount on a naked core, and it has definitely improved some of my OCs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hybrid
could have just put the spreader u took off back on.
Yea, someone made an offer on the chip i couldnt refuse.
3.40Ghz @1.65v booted straight into Windows :D :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=43245
And here's the power shot :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=43246
What an awesome chip, I presume this is under phase, based on the temp in Smart Guardian.
Of course, the gain in raw computation is much higher than the memory loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
//EDIT: Wow ben awesome chip, it seems it has no limits :D You make me jealous :mad: j/k nice results :toast: :banana:
Maybe some 3d benchs/prime and it should deserve a full thread itself
thanks :D :D yea it's a single stage phase change ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Detract
Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
hehe...thanks man, I will try to play with other benches and see what happened :D
Heres mine....still fighting cold bug...245htt able, but it didn't stay long enough in windows to start bench:(
Cpu temp @ idle -16C....Load @ +3C...
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8131/www8xf.jpg
Insane scores for both of you :)
No way in hell could i even dual prime @2900mhz at 1.6v before until i got this 1KW psu http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=88695 :woot:
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...rime_1_tnn.jpg
And heres my new baby CCB1E0550VPMW.
Started booting with 2x2800Mhz and 1,28Vc under Water Ambient is 19°C.
Dualprime was running for 20minutes then i rebooted with 2x2850Mhz and 1,28Vc.Idle temp is around 34°C Load was around 41°C under DualPrime.I´m still testing the CPU. got it today by the postwoman. lol
And here e few Screens for the buddies.:banana:
http://www.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/F6RCU.jpg
First Boot!
http://www.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/F6U32.jpg
Second Boot today!!
http://www.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/F65CF.jpg
19C water... dam wish i had that
but very nice result :)
Eva no Watertemp that is my Ambient in the Livingroom where the Computer is!
Water must be around 24°C!!!
And the Default Vcore is in Bios 1,35 that means under CPU-z 1,312Vc.
My Setting is 1,325Vc in Bios and 1,28Vc under CPU-Z for the 2800-2850Mhz.
Try to get CCB1E0550VPMW
Thats very important no other Wafercharge!!>1387678L505XX and Batch around 500
And the Rest is a little Luck!
still very nice my 170 0546XPMW needs 1.536v to hit 2853mhz dual prime heh
wow, thats amazing, are those volt readings accurate or are they like cpu-z .02 under?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufus7
have u found a max yet?
So you couldnt do that before? Maybe its time i get another psu :(Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
nope before max dual prime was 2800-2850mhz at 1.6v and max benchable 2900-2950mhz
now 2853mhz at 1.536v and 2900mhz at 1.6v dual prime so i'm hoping i can get 2950-3000mhz benchable :)
what psu did u have before? The only reason i didnt work is because it fluctuated under load?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000