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11-08-2006, 04:52 AM
OldCoot

"Ghosting" a RAID 0 system

Cheers! First post and great forum.

Just a heads up for anyone wanting to "Ghost" their RAID 0 system using Norton Ghost.

On all the systems in my home I've always had the operating system on a drive about 8 GB. and made a "Ghost" image of it.

I have a P5W DH Deluxe and wanted to try RAID 0 (for performance) and ghosting it. I have two 320 GB Western Digital SATA drives I put on the EZ Raid connectors. Norton Ghost 9 had no problem making an image file, or restoring it.

The more I read on here, I realized EZ Raid wasn't the optimum way to go for performance. I connected the drives to the SATA 1 & 3 connectors, started over, formated and re-installed XP and some other goodies.
I created a ghost image of the operating system drive, no problem.
When I tried to restore, Norton couldn't see the D: drive where the image was, or any drives for that matter. Using Norton's Recovery Disk to boot with, and hitting the F6 key to load drivers didn't help. It appeared to load them, but didn't use them.
Checking Symantec's website, Ghost doesn't support any version of Raid unless it can access it through DOS, and even then it's iffy. My drives are formated as NTFS, so DOS is out of the question.
So having any Raid (other than the EZ Raid) on an NTFS partition isn't going to fly with Norton.
In conclusion, I did manage to make an image file of my C: drive and successfully restore it using Acronis True Image 9. (Raid 0 on SATA connectors 1 & 3)
I hope this saves someone all the time and effort I spent screwing around trying to get Norton to work in this configuration.
11-08-2006, 05:21 AM
SKiLL3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldCoot

Cheers! First post and great forum.

Just a heads up for anyone wanting to "Ghost" their RAID 0 system using Norton Ghost.

On all the systems in my home I've always had the operating system on a drive about 8 GB. and made a "Ghost" image of it.

I have a P5W DH Deluxe and wanted to try RAID 0 (for performance) and ghosting it. I have two 320 GB Western Digital SATA drives I put on the EZ Raid connectors. Norton Ghost 9 had no problem making an image file, or restoring it.

The more I read on here, I realized EZ Raid wasn't the optimum way to go for performance. I connected the drives to the SATA 1 & 3 connectors, started over, formated and re-installed XP and some other goodies.
I created a ghost image of the operating system drive, no problem.
When I tried to restore, Norton couldn't see the D: drive where the image was, or any drives for that matter. Using Norton's Recovery Disk to boot with, and hitting the F6 key to load drivers didn't help. It appeared to load them, but didn't use them.
Checking Symantec's website, Ghost doesn't support any version of Raid unless it can access it through DOS, and even then it's iffy. My drives are formated as NTFS, so DOS is out of the question.
So having any Raid (other than the EZ Raid) on an NTFS partition isn't going to fly with Norton.
In conclusion, I did manage to make an image file of my C: drive and successfully restore it using Acronis True Image 9. (Raid 0 on SATA connectors 1 & 3)
I hope this saves someone all the time and effort I spent screwing around trying to get Norton to work in this configuration.

In the Manual from Asus its written: use Port1 for optical drives! Try 3+4 and maybe that will solve it :D

iLL
11-08-2006, 06:27 AM
OldGuy

Thanks for that info OldCoot...been trying to decide between Norton or Acronis using a similar config (2 drives RAID 0 and another drive for image).
11-08-2006, 06:43 AM
tjelaw

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiLL3D

Yes - the other Programs just dont read the actual Multi. They identify the CPU and assume that the defaultMulti is runnin.

iLL

sounds logical, but erm... its not ready the multi wrong, its reading the FSB wrong 444x9 and not 400x10 instead of 400x9 at which it is set.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mutt

Anyone but me that is stuck with 380fsb with the 1503 bios but can go to 405 with 1305 bios?

Edit: Yay the 2000th post in this thread!

I never tried 1305, but I might now. Are u talking about (orthos)stable FSB's or just bootup? And what multi are u using?
11-08-2006, 06:51 AM
Sparx

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiLL3D

Everything is alright!

G.Skill set those SPDsettings for the N00bs that have bad Boards just to secure they work with 1,8V on EVERY ddr2capable Board on the Planet.

In fact u should know how to handle HighendRAM if u buy it :slap:

Go to the damn Chipset Settings and set them like u want them. Just keep in mind that u have to leave the Setting BY SPD if u want to go beyond 360-370FSB.

Another Possibility: go get THAIPHOON BURNER 3 and reprogram your SPD to your needs, so that u can leave the timingSetting to BY SPD and have high FSB370+

PHU1 + PHU1 = PHU2 so thats alright too

Thats the Reason i keep waiting for another good BIOS to solve 2 Problems on this Board:
a) C1E/EIST-independent VcoreSetting(like Abit AW9D!)
b) HighFSB without having to set the timings BY SPD(more Subtimings would be nice, too)

I dont know how long i'll be waiting for this BIOS, but i will not wait until 2008. The AW9D-Max is a very competitive Board to this P5WDH and the most Feature(remote+wlan) are not really needed...

iLL

I don't have this problem with G.skill. I am running 400x9 and I have the RAM manually set 5 5 5 15 1:1.

I don't understand the problem. I am using 1503 BIOS.
sparx
11-08-2006, 09:04 AM
SKiLL3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparx

I don't have this problem with G.skill. I am running 400x9 and I have the RAM manually set 5 5 5 15 1:1.

I don't understand the problem. I am using 1503 BIOS.
sparx

??? u have 6400-CL4-4-4-12 RAMs running on 5-5-5-15? So what? Try them on 4-4-4-12 and when they are really HZs(D9 or Elpidas) u won't get the Board to boot. Its a problem many people in many threads about this Board have.

iLL
11-08-2006, 10:23 AM
pee4

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldCoot

Cheers! First post and great forum.

Just a heads up for anyone wanting to "Ghost" their RAID 0 system using Norton Ghost.

On all the systems in my home I've always had the operating system on a drive about 8 GB. and made a "Ghost" image of it.

I have a P5W DH Deluxe and wanted to try RAID 0 (for performance) and ghosting it. I have two 320 GB Western Digital SATA drives I put on the EZ Raid connectors. Norton Ghost 9 had no problem making an image file, or restoring it.

The more I read on here, I realized EZ Raid wasn't the optimum way to go for performance. I connected the drives to the SATA 1 & 3 connectors, started over, formated and re-installed XP and some other goodies.
I created a ghost image of the operating system drive, no problem.
When I tried to restore, Norton couldn't see the D: drive where the image was, or any drives for that matter. Using Norton's Recovery Disk to boot with, and hitting the F6 key to load drivers didn't help. It appeared to load them, but didn't use them.
Checking Symantec's website, Ghost doesn't support any version of Raid unless it can access it through DOS, and even then it's iffy. My drives are formated as NTFS, so DOS is out of the question.
So having any Raid (other than the EZ Raid) on an NTFS partition isn't going to fly with Norton.
In conclusion, I did manage to make an image file of my C: drive and successfully restore it using Acronis True Image 9. (Raid 0 on SATA connectors 1 & 3)
I hope this saves someone all the time and effort I spent screwing around trying to get Norton to work in this configuration.

Ghost 8 can backup to / restore image files from NTFS partitions

I use Ghost 8 after booting with a DOS boot disk to backup and restore a RAID 0 on the Intel RAID controller with no issues.
11-08-2006, 10:38 AM
Getttosmurf

Had the same problem with my p5w 64 ws pro , nothing helpd spent 20h + to get it to post but nothing worked so sent it back and got a p5w dh and it posted on first atempt. Only thing i noticed on the ws pro was that 1 pin didnt look like the othera at the bottom of the socket , not bent but looked odd.

Had my DH for a couple of days now and it's so picky with settings im going crazy , vant run my ram anywhere close to rated 1000Mhz and nothing over 375 fsb is stable with any voltage 370 is rock stable at 1.4 (bios) 1.36 (win) and had a ton of problems trying to run 5 sata drives on it. cant run sata drives in ahci (real sata) at all = ( returning this pos board tomorrow ! og forgott somtimes onboard lan stops working for no reason with latest drivers and fresh xp install did not help. Installed a pci card and it seemd to fix the issue but now it randomly stops working = (

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjelaw

Hi guys, i've already posted this in the "making ur p5w ready guide"-thread, but I'll just post it here again just to be sure.

***
I remounted my NB heatsink with AS5 and now my mobo doenst want to power on. The green LED is lit, but it doenst respond in any way to the power switch. No fans spinning, no beeps, literally nothing. Anyone got some suggestions?

I tried:
- The mobo with only the cpu, mem installed.
- Tried inside my casing and also outside my casing(on a cardboard, so the mobo isnt short-circuited by the case)
- Checked both ATX & 4pin power connector.
- Checked the power button of my case, tried with the reset button and also manually connecting the power on pins.

:( cud use some tips and help
11-08-2006, 11:08 AM
Sparx

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiLL3D

??? u have 6400-CL4-4-4-12 RAMs running on 5-5-5-15? So what? Try them on 4-4-4-12 and when they are really HZs(D9 or Elpidas) u won't get the Board to boot. Its a problem many people in many threads about this Board have.

iLL

OK so I have done what you said I cannot do anything else?
I will continue to run 5-5-5-15-5 however because it is sooooooooooo stable this way.
:toast:

Sorry for the crappy image quality. :rolleyes:
Maybe these other people have issues with inferior components?

My v core is at 1.4125 CPUz is wrong on that.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...44412400x9.jpg

sparx
11-08-2006, 11:15 AM
The Nemesis

People say this can be done with this board too. Ram is G. SKill HZ 06060610211XX
http://img.techpowerup.org/061108/9 ...ark 4-5323.jpg
11-08-2006, 11:19 AM
Sparx

:D Nem
How do you set the camera to get such clear images?
sparx
11-08-2006, 11:23 AM
The Nemesis

SparX

Don't use a camera. Press the print screen button on your keyboard, open paint or whatever photo editor & paste.
11-08-2006, 11:25 AM
Sparx

OK Nem I run the Super Pi 1M too... :)

Sparx
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...bench400x9.jpg
11-08-2006, 11:26 AM
Sparx

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nemesis

SparX

Don't use a camera. Press the print screen button on your keyboard, open paint or whatever photo editor & paste.

Yeah I have done that but you only get the active window right?
Then you have to caputer all 4 and paste them on one Paint file?
thanks bud
sparx
11-08-2006, 11:45 AM
SKiLL3D

i still dont get it - uhave stable 4-4-4-12 runnin and u still wanna go back to 5-5-5-15?:confused:

i hope u didnt use SetFSB or MemSet :P

iLL
11-08-2006, 11:52 AM
Sparx

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiLL3D

i still dont get it - uhave stable 4-4-4-12 runnin and u still wanna go back to 5-5-5-15?:confused:

i hope u didnt use SetFSB or MemSet :P

iLL

I am cautious, for me stability is everything. Those faster timings are not going to make any difference, especially if and when it crashes. My computer is used for record keeping and to run my small business, not just a race car.

Heck I am happy to have 3.6 with 1.41 volts and doing it all on air, I ran Ortho 6hours yesterday perfectly.

Also working up this OC I never crashed once with ORtho, I am not going to argue with success.

I have very nice week 30 cpu. :clap:
sparx
11-08-2006, 11:58 AM
NghtShd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparx

:D Nem
How do you set the camera to get such clear images?
sparx

O_O
11-08-2006, 12:08 PM
coredump

Quote:

Originally Posted by NghtShd

O_O

My thoughts exactly :toast:
11-08-2006, 12:31 PM
kevsta112003

Which bios allows for highest FSB thus far?

Did they fix cold boot in 1503?
11-08-2006, 12:35 PM
Sparx

Quote:

Originally Posted by NghtShd

O_O

What does O_O mean?
11-08-2006, 12:36 PM
Sparx

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevsta112003

Which bios allows for highest FSB thus far?

Did they fix cold boot in 1503?

Yes the cold boot issue was fixed in 1503.
11-08-2006, 12:47 PM
Getttosmurf

with 1503 im at 3333 (can boot 3443) with 1.35v (bios) 1.32 cpu-z and mem at ddr2 900 4 4 4 12 so moving in the right direction but this board simply cant keep up with my cpu and ram = (

still with stock intel cooler , waiting for s775 wc block
11-08-2006, 01:44 PM
phogger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparx

What does O_O mean?

Google "O_O"

smiley o_o
11-09-2006, 07:03 AM
Strikez

Quote:

Originally Posted by walste

enyone get higher clock with 1601?
or some other good changes?

I have a more stable system overclocking with 1601 as I can now get it to boot and run programs at 411 fsb 1:1 but freezes when running mark 3d. I will be lowering my Fsb to get a stable system; 1601 for my system is the best bios I have tried so far.
11-09-2006, 09:28 AM
xpsentity

In regards to the RAM problems over 365~ FSB, it's a tRD issue with SPD.

Loosen the tRD, no problems. It's too bad Asus does not include these subtimings in the bios.

Only some RAM exhibits this behavior, it depends on the programming of the SPD of the particular chip (Not IC's mind you).

That Thaiphoon SPD prog is interesting.. great way to thrash some ram if you don't know EXACTLY what you are doing. ;)
11-09-2006, 11:16 AM
SKiLL3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpsentity

In regards to the RAM problems over 365~ FSB, it's a tRD issue with SPD.

Loosen the tRD, no problems. It's too bad Asus does not include these subtimings in the bios.

Only some RAM exhibits this behavior, it depends on the programming of the SPD of the particular chip (Not IC's mind you).

That Thaiphoon SPD prog is interesting.. great way to thrash some ram if you don't know EXACTLY what you are doing. ;)

Then i have some Questions for you:D

Which tRD-Setting is:
fastest?
slowest?
preferred to avoid the RAMproblem?

my Default is 6 - according to MemSet

Do i have to apply MemSet-settings everytime i boot or does MemSet save into BIOS?

iLL
11-09-2006, 11:54 AM
Quentin

anyone have tested bios 1601 ?
11-09-2006, 12:41 PM
neologan

late to the party but i only just got this board. Before this one i had a DFI 975X/G and in all this time i've never had a problem getting 800MHz 3-3-3-9 with 2.25V from my RAM on the DFI or two other AM2 boards.... until now.

At first i thought this was due to the agressive TRFC which lawrywild hinted to, but i've used MemSet and tried a high TRFC with no luck. I have no idea why i cannot get my 2GB OCZ PC2-8000 Plat EL XTC to work at speeds that were fine on 3 other mainboards. On the 0503 bios.

If i disable SPD and set 5-5-5, no boot, 4-4-4, no boot, 3-3-3, DOES boot, but then once in widnows orthos fails with a TRFC set at 42, tried many. the p5E DH default is 15!

This is at stock btw, X6800, no overclocking, just trying to get 800MHz 3-3-3 stable. hyperthingie is disabled.

Anyone got any ideas as this is really starting to get on my nerves :(
11-09-2006, 01:06 PM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpsentity

In regards to the RAM problems over 365~ FSB, it's a tRD issue with SPD.

Loosen the tRD, no problems. It's too bad Asus does not include these subtimings in the bios.

Only some RAM exhibits this behavior, it depends on the programming of the SPD of the particular chip (Not IC's mind you).

That Thaiphoon SPD prog is interesting.. great way to thrash some ram if you don't know EXACTLY what you are doing. ;)

it is 100% NOT tRD, it is caused by tRFC
11-09-2006, 01:40 PM
SKiLL3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

it is 100% NOT tRD, it is caused by tRFC

Then maybe u can answer my Questions?

Which tRFC-Setting is:
fastest?
slowest?
preferred to avoid the RAMproblem?

my Default is 6 - according to MemSet

Do i have to apply MemSet-settings everytime i boot or does MemSet save into BIOS?

iLL
11-09-2006, 01:45 PM
neologan

This is as good as i can get with this board so far (with my memory i mean). if i try cas 3 orthos would fail within 5 seconds, doesn't matter what trfc i set either. next step is to try 2.3v to see if that sorts it.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9...iblemc2.th.gif
11-09-2006, 04:33 PM
brock01

im having trouble with my ram and here it is in memset
i notice that the tRFC is pretty high? does that cause instability
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8122/ramfx4.png
heres my ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227139
any help is Greatly Appreciated
thanks, brock01
11-10-2006, 04:14 AM
neologan

it's meant to be the opposite really, though so far i've found no real difference between high or low.

it's got to be some memory settings that are too aggressive, but the hell if i know which ones.
11-10-2006, 06:05 AM
Sparx

OT
I am not getting email alerts regarding posts on this Forum, anyone else?
sparx
11-10-2006, 07:49 AM
ccl2006

Guys,

Fyi, bios 1506 is out for the ASUS P5W DH Deluxe:http://support.asus.com/download/dow...%20DH%20Deluxe
11-10-2006, 08:00 AM
syne_24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccl2006

Guys,

Fyi, bios 1506 is out for the ASUS P5W DH Deluxe:http://support.asus.com/download/dow...%20DH%20Deluxe

i heard that is even more crap, any truth to that?

On another note, anyone experience some kind of lag in the bios once installed a g80? It lags everytime I change one fsb, like it tries to refresh everytime, weird.
11-10-2006, 08:09 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by brock01

im having trouble with my ram and here it is in memset
i notice that the tRFC is pretty high? does that cause instability
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8122/ramfx4.png
heres my ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227139
any help is Greatly Appreciated
thanks, brock01

No, 42 is the ideal setting to have
11-10-2006, 08:11 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiLL3D

Then maybe u can answer my Questions?

Which tRFC-Setting is:
fastest?
slowest?
preferred to avoid the RAMproblem?

my Default is 6 - according to MemSet

Do i have to apply MemSet-settings everytime i boot or does MemSet save into BIOS?

iLL

I think your reading tRD, if tRFC is 6 then no wonder you're having problems :stick:
11-10-2006, 09:03 AM
neologan

1506 - Enhance memory compatibility

Perhaps this will allow me 3-3-3-9 because so far this board is really poor to have problems when 3 of my other boards all allow 3-3-3-9.
11-10-2006, 09:14 AM
SKiLL3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

I think your reading tRD, if tRFC is 6 then no wonder you're having problems :stick:

Ye, you're right i copoed my Post before and forgot to change Numbers.

SO my tRFC is 35. Will the Board keep the Setting when i apply 42 or will ihave to change it everytime i boot?

iLL
11-10-2006, 09:26 AM
neologan

hmmm if i save the settings in MemSet, will it save just the sub timings or the timings aswell?
11-10-2006, 10:54 AM
pancito

Any news on 1506 Bios
11-10-2006, 12:14 PM
irenic

Quote:

Originally Posted by syne_24

i heard that is even more crap, any truth to that?

On another note, anyone experience some kind of lag in the bios once installed a g80? It lags everytime I change one fsb, like it tries to refresh everytime, weird.

yeah.. i thought my bios is corrupt but then i read urs so i guess the problem came from my 8800gtx + p5w dh? ..
11-10-2006, 12:32 PM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiLL3D

Ye, you're right i copoed my Post before and forgot to change Numbers.

SO my tRFC is 35. Will the Board keep the Setting when i apply 42 or will ihave to change it everytime i boot?

iLL

It will reset 35 when you reboot, you can save your memset profile and put it into startup folder so it automatically loads those timings upon each boot
11-10-2006, 02:42 PM
ccl2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by syne_24

i heard that is even more crap, any truth to that?

On another note, anyone experience some kind of lag in the bios once installed a g80? It lags everytime I change one fsb, like it tries to refresh everytime, weird.

1506 is a crap? where did you hear that? I checked this http://hentges.net/tmp/BIOS/asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/ and I don't see any 1506 bios at all. Please give us the links that the 1506 is crappy. Tia.
11-10-2006, 03:11 PM
Pol1977

I updated to 1506... So far it is the same for me as 1503. There is an extra memory setting for users running 64bit OSes, if I'm not mistaken. The SPD thing when OCing is still there :(
11-10-2006, 04:07 PM
coredump

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccl2006

1506 is a crap? where did you hear that? I checked this http://hentges.net/tmp/BIOS/asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/ and I don't see any 1506 bios at all. Please give us the links that the 1506 is crappy. Tia.

hentges.net has been updated
11-10-2006, 06:05 PM
Orbitech

I see 1601 in the link.. Anyone tried it so we can see if they fixed the tRD issue?
Fvckin ASUS too many boards and zero support.. I knew I should have gone with Gigabyte.. Maybe I should swap it for one with 680...:stick:
11-10-2006, 09:03 PM
JokerCPoC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orbitech

I see 1601 in the link.. Anyone tried it so we can see if they fixed the tRD issue?
Fvckin ASUS too many boards and zero support.. I knew I should have gone with Gigabyte.. Maybe I should swap it for one with 680...:stick:

Speaking of Gigabyte, Asus and Gigabyte are joining forces and making motherboards and what not in a Joint venture.
11-11-2006, 10:31 AM
pee4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orbitech

Fvckin ASUS too many boards and zero support.. I knew I should have gone with Gigabyte.. Maybe I should swap it for one with 680...:stick:

If you hate Asus, you are going to REALLY hate Gigabyte. They completely suck... take a look at 8IRXP fiasco when we were duped by Tom's Hardware...
11-11-2006, 02:39 PM
ccl2006

1506 is sweet! 1506 is the first bios that allowed me to do 400FSB 1:1 ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...fsb_111106.jpg

Cpu-z validation:http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=137225

Screenshot:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...fsb_111106.jpg
11-11-2006, 02:47 PM
syne_24

Quote:

Originally Posted by irenic

yeah.. i thought my bios is corrupt but then i read urs so i guess the problem came from my 8800gtx + p5w dh? ..

i think so, it was the only thing I swapped out and my system wasnt acting like that before. I found a solution tho, i feel like an idiot for not noticing this before. Apparently you can just key in the FSB number instead of using +/- which causes the lag with the G80. I didnt know that lol..;)
11-11-2006, 03:48 PM
Orbitech

Quote:

Originally Posted by syne_24

i think so, it was the only thing I swapped out and my system wasnt acting like that before. I found a solution tho, i feel like an idiot for not noticing this before. Apparently you can just key in the FSB number instead of using +/- which causes the lag with the G80. I didnt know that lol..;)

So is there any bios that can eliminate this problem yet? I'm getting my G80 on Monday and if possible I wanna be ready.. :)
11-11-2006, 04:55 PM
Brahmzy

Sorry, what problem are we talking about? I have an 8800GTX with my P5W DH and don't see any problems...
11-11-2006, 07:10 PM
kyleslater

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prelim

asus support really sucks...seems P5WDH is dead already, im still waiting for the resolution of SPD bug at +370fsb (tRFC related)

I had a bad board too. But it was more like not recognizing the Raptors on Raid and not being stable after 20 minutes. No overclocking at all. The temp was also 47C (normal for that board supposedly) but the replacement board I got is only 39C with a Zalman 9500 AT and a Antec P180B case (total crap if you ask me get something bigger).
11-12-2006, 03:06 AM
lawrywild

I did some more digging around the tRFC issue

If you set 2:3 divider over 333fsb (not sure about lower than 333 didn't try) with 5-5-5-15 the board will set tRFC to 42 and tRD to 7 like SPD would. So to not get this SPD issue you need some ram that can do over 1100 cas 5..

Also, another weird thing I've experienced is, even if my ram can handle ddr-833 1.8v, at 333fsb 4:5 = 833mhz ram I have to set over 2.00v to get stable. Same thing happens at 356mhz fsb, where I need 2.20v to run 712 lol??

So I'm thinking if you have D9 try pumping 2.40v and setting 2:3 5-5-5-15-5 and see where that gets you.
11-12-2006, 03:48 AM
SKiLL3D

Thats some buggy RAMsetting ASUS:slapass:

i got GSKiLL 2GBHZ - need 2,1V to boot at FSB335 divider 4:5 = PC836 - on FSB266 i need 1,9V. WTF asus!

Now we need the RAMspd Problems fixed
+Vcore adjustable when C1E+EIST enabled^^

iLL
11-12-2006, 04:55 AM
DutchBBQ

Download LATEST BIOS & DRivers prior setting up your system

Downloading and installing latest BIOS & Drivers helps reducing installation problems and instability of your system. Don't use the drivers on the accompanied ASUS CD of your P5W HD Deluxe motherboard!!

Please note:
NEW FINAL Intel Matrix Storage Manager v.6.2.0.2002 dated Oct 13, 2006 available

See link:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
11-12-2006, 05:39 AM
neologan

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchBBQ

Downloading and installing latest BIOS & Drivers helps reducing installation problems and instability of your system. Don't use the drivers on the accompanied ASUS CD of your P5W HD Deluxe motherboard!!

well duh :stick:

:p:
11-12-2006, 05:52 AM
DutchBBQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by neologan

well duh :stick:

:p:

While the idea is dead obvious--the problem is that we don't do the obvious.
11-12-2006, 07:58 AM
phogger

Quote:

Originally Posted by phogger

I too put vCore to 1.60v, following the lead - not as brave.

Core Temp Beta temps are 48/47 C right now on air.

That's been the only way to get me past 3.2GHz in BIOS.

I have been able to boot into Windows at 400 FSB, logon, but even 1M superpi fails some of the time, though my fastest was 14.140s.

I've backed off to 3.33Ghz/370 FSB in BIOS for more stability. I'm running 2x FAH 24/7 with temps TAT 44-48C; CoreTempBeta 45-48C; ambient right now in the shack is 66F.
11-12-2006, 09:06 AM
phoeniXfury

Hey everyone!

Been a while since I was overclocking the opteron...decided to jump the gun and go for a Core2 Duo:

E6600 L631
ASUS P5W DH Deluxe (1506)
OCZ PC2-8000 Platinum XTC
Triple 120mm Rad Water Cooling on CPU
X1900XT
OCZ PowerStream 600W

I'm having a problem getting to 350FSB for some reason:stick:.

vCore=1.6v (in BIOS...1.55 actual)
vMem=2.2v
vMCH=1.65v (more doesn't help)
vFSB-Term=1.4v (more doesn't help
vICH=Auto

DRAMfreq=700Mhz (I've used it over 800Mhz without issues)
Hyperpath3=Disabled
DRAMtiming=SPD
PCIfreq=33.33Mhz locked
PCIEfreq=100Mhz locked
PerfMod=Standard

Any ideas? CPU's not the problem...I've hit 3.02Ghz and am now running with a multiplyer of 8 instead of 9 and still no go. So the FSB needs some work. Also...I am running Windows Vista RC1 and I get BSOD while login loads.
11-12-2006, 09:57 AM
phogger

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoeniXfury

Hey everyone!

Been a while since I was overclocking the opteron...decided to jump the gun and go for a Core2 Duo:

E6600 L631
ASUS P5W DH Deluxe (1506)
OCZ PC2-8000 Platinum XTC
Triple 120mm Rad Water Cooling on CPU
X1900XT
OCZ PowerStream 600W

I'm having a problem getting to 350FSB for some reason:stick:.

vCore=1.6v (in BIOS...1.55 actual)
vMem=2.2v
vMCH=1.65v (more doesn't help)
vFSB-Term=1.4v (more doesn't help
vICH=Auto

DRAMfreq=700Mhz (I've used it over 800Mhz without issues)
Hyperpath3=Disabled
DRAMtiming=SPD
PCIfreq=33.33Mhz locked
PCIEfreq=100Mhz locked
PerfMod=Standard

Any ideas? CPU's not the problem...I've hit 3.02Ghz and am now running with a multiplyer of 8 instead of 9 and still no go. So the FSB needs some work. Also...I am running Windows Vista RC1 and I get BSOD while login loads.

Looks good to me. . . .

Here's my settings FYI

BIOS 1601
BIOS SETTINGS
JumperFree Configuration
AI Overclocking set to: MANUAL
CPU Frequency : 370MhZ
DRAMM Frequency :740Mhz
Performance Mode :Standard
PCI Express Frequency : 110Mhz
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33.33Mhz
Memory Voltage : 2.20v
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.50v
FSB Termination V : 1.50v
MCH Chipset V : 1.65V
ICH Chipset V : 1.20v
Digital Home: Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------
CPU Configuration
Modify Ratio Support : Disabled
****Ratio CMOS Setting: [9]
Microcode Update : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
Enhanced C1 Control: Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Disabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------
Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)
Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : Enable
DRAM CAS Latency : 5.0
DRAM RAS Precharge : 6
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 6
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 18
DRAM Write Recovery Time : 24
Hyper Path 3 : Disabled
DRAM Throttling : Disable
Memory Remap Feature: Enabled
--------------------------------------------------------
Intel TAT 51/48C Ambient 72F
--------------------------------------------------------

I've hit 400FSB and total stable at 370 FSB/3.33GHz.
11-12-2006, 11:24 AM
ninrocket

My first attempt.....after a lot of reading these forums!

This is my first shot at overclocking:

http://www.ihssol.com/MY%20PC.JPG

verification is here

My voltages seem low but the system is stable. Going to get a phase change unit from jinu117
next and see how hard I can push it.

F.E.A.R. with max settings is a real treat on this system! I bought the Dell 24" widescreen and it is AWESOME. No dead pixels and 1920x1200 rez....SWEET!

Thanks in advance PHOGGER for saving me all the typing!!

BIOS 1506
BIOS SETTINGS
JumperFree Configuration
AI Overclocking set to: MANUAL
CPU Frequency : 400MhZ
DRAMM Frequency :800Mhz
Performance Mode :Standard
PCI Express Frequency : 100Mhz
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33.33Mhz
Memory Voltage : 2.20v
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.425v (drops to 1.40 under full load)
FSB Termination V : 1.40v
MCH Chipset V : 1.55V
ICH Chipset V : 1.05v
Digital Home: Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------
CPU Configuration
Modify Ratio Support : Disabled
****Ratio CMOS Setting: [9]
Microcode Update : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
Enhanced C1 Control: Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Disabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------
Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)
Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : Enable
DRAM CAS Latency : 4
DRAM RAS Precharge : 4
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 4
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 12
DRAM Write Recovery Time : 16
Hyper Path 3 : Disabled
DRAM Throttling : Disable
Memory Remap Feature: Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------
Intel TAT 42/45C Ambient 70F
11-12-2006, 11:28 AM
phoeniXfury

Thanks for the info! :)

As I suspected...Vista isn't as stable as I'd like it to be...but then again...it's RC1 that I have...I gota grab RTM soon;)

I'm on XP now @3.15 and still going:banana: Idle: 37C full load 51C

Hope I'll get to at least 3.6...more the better :D

As a side note...I understand Windows XP installation taking 15min...but Vista also took 15min...and that was at stock 2.4Ghz!!!
11-12-2006, 11:36 AM
Thasp

Does this motherboard still have the problem mentioned in the other thread where the shipping BIOS is not compatible with core 2 duo CPUs?
11-12-2006, 11:39 AM
NghtShd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasp

Does this motherboard still have the problem mentioned in the other thread where the shipping BIOS is not compatible with core 2 duo CPUs?

It's very unlikely that you'd get one with a BIOS that old now.
11-12-2006, 11:41 AM
ninrocket

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasp

Does this motherboard still have the problem mentioned in the other thread where the shipping BIOS is not compatible with core 2 duo CPUs?

nope....not unless you got a hold of some ANCIENT stock. I got mine 2 months ago and it came with 0701. I just got around to building it this weekend.....I love it!

Not only is it fast but it is very quiet!

What's the best software for FSB, MEM, VOLT adjustments in real time for this board? Anyone?
11-12-2006, 11:58 AM
Thasp

Wow, cool. :D

Is it possible to take the heatpipe cooling off also? It'll be watercooled, I'd rather add a cheapo waterblock to the chipset at the end of the loop than use passive.

Gigabyte mobos make it a real pain in the ass to remove that stuff, almost as if it wasn't meant to be removed.

Also, are open box models on newegg older models?
11-12-2006, 12:22 PM
ninrocket

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasp

Wow, cool. :D

Is it possible to take the heatpipe cooling off also? ........

Also, are open box models on newegg older models?

Heatpipe is very easy to take off.
I would bet that the newegg models would be OK....since they go through a lot of inventory.
11-12-2006, 01:00 PM
phoeniXfury

I doubt u'd find one that doesn't support Core2...unless if ur buying it from someone that had the board for a long time.

My board that I got 2 days ago came with 1305...so my local store did have a load of these from a while ago but ASUS officially supports Core2 with 1011...and as others said earlier ones will work as well.

As an update, I'm enjoying this board very much as well as the chip!:toast: I am now at 3.86Ghz with memory 1:1 at 430Mhz. I can't go any further now though, I actually think it's the FSB that is limiting me now as I attempted 8x multiplier on my E6600 and going for higher. Though I'm pretty sure the CPU is at its limit with my cooling system anyway. All in all: :banana: :banana: :banana:

All that's left to do is Orthos!
11-12-2006, 01:36 PM
Thasp

I've read that a lot of conroe mobos will not POST with RAM that requires higher vdimm.

Is this one of those mobos? Is there a recommended RAM list for this mobo? I am looking at this right now.
11-12-2006, 02:47 PM
NghtShd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasp

I've read that a lot of conroe mobos will not POST with RAM that requires higher vdimm.

Is this one of those mobos? Is there a recommended RAM list for this mobo? I am looking at this right now.

My RAM is spec'd @ 2.2v and the board posted fine. You might want to read the reviews on that RAM. Maybe a lot of it is user error, but there seem to be a lot of unhappy owners with Conroe systems.
11-12-2006, 04:02 PM
SKiLL3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninrocket

This is my first shot at overclocking:

BIOS 1605...

Where di u get 1605?!??!

iLL
11-12-2006, 04:35 PM
Burner27

I flashed to 1506 and now noticed something......

I have 4GBs of ram which the system sees but where it states "system memory", it looks like this:

Size: 4096MB
Appropriated: 1152MB
Available: 2944MB

What causes this? What is "appropriating" 1152MBs of memory?
11-12-2006, 04:46 PM
ninrocket

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiLL3D

Where di u get 1605?!??!

iLL

typo....sorry

I fixed it.
11-12-2006, 05:44 PM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner27

I flashed to 1506 and now noticed something......

I have 4GBs of ram which the system sees but where it states "system memory", it looks like this:

Size: 4096MB
Appropriated: 1152MB
Available: 2944MB

What causes this? What is "appropriating" 1152MBs of memory?

Motherboard resources get this memory. This is why there is the addition on the switch for 64-bit support, allowing the OS to get access to full ram, or have ram used properly when XP/2000 is installed. such a waste of manpower, if you ask me.:slapass:
11-12-2006, 06:41 PM
Burner27

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Motherboard resources get this memory. This is why there is the addition on the switch for 64-bit support, allowing the OS to get access to full ram, or have ram used properly when XP/2000 is installed. such a waste of manpower, if you ask me.:slapass:

So even though i am using a 32bit OS (WinXP Pro) should I switch that setting to 64-bit support?
11-12-2006, 06:58 PM
JokerCPoC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner27

So even though i am using a 32bit OS (WinXP Pro) should I switch that setting to 64-bit support?

Sorry, But as MS has said XP Pro will only address 4Gb, Minus drivers, Windows, Bios, etc. If You want 64bit support get Windows XP x64, It can be bought for about $74 or so, Do so only If Your cpu and motherboard support AMD64 or EM64T.

By limiting the address space to 4 GB, devices with 32-bit DMA bus master capability will not see a transaction with an address above the 4 GB barrier.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2mempr.mspx
11-12-2006, 07:04 PM
rpr

Question for the experts:

My E6600 does 3.2Ghz with ease with all voltages left at stock "Auto" (I just disabled Hyperthreading 3), with idle temps at 42C and load temps at 54C.

Despite its impressive overclockability to 3.2 Ghz at stock settings, I can't run stable at 3.6 Ghz even with the CPU VCore cranked up to 1.525V and the VMCH cranked up to 1.65V. Its actually a bit more stable when I leave the VMCH on Auto, although not much. Temps at these voltages increase to 54C at idle and 70C at load.

I can't believe there is no more headroom in this CPU over what it can do with stock voltages! Anybody have any similar experiences? Suggestions?
11-12-2006, 07:11 PM
Burner27

Quote:

Originally Posted by JokerCPoC

Sorry, But as MS has said XP Pro will only address 4Gb, Minus drivers, Windows, Bios, etc. If You want 64bit support get Windows XP x64, It can be bought for about $74 or so, Do so only If Your cpu and motherboard support AMD64 or EM64T.

By limiting the address space to 4 GB, devices with 32-bit DMA bus master capability will not see a transaction with an address above the 4 GB barrier.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2mempr.mspx

I know that. My question is purely related to the bios. If I enable 64-bit support in the bios will the "appropriated memory" go back to 0?
11-12-2006, 08:07 PM
JokerCPoC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner27

I know that. My question is purely related to the bios. If I enable 64-bit support in the bios will the "appropriated memory" go back to 0?

NO. You would still need a 64bit OS to see any possible effect, So under XP Pro x32 It's useless. :(
11-12-2006, 08:15 PM
MacClipper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner27

I flashed to 1506 and now noticed something......

I have 4GBs of ram which the system sees but where it states "system memory", it looks like this:

Size: 4096MB
Appropriated: 1152MB
Available: 2944MB

What causes this? What is "appropriating" 1152MBs of memory?

On 1506 with a AIW X1900, mine says

Size: 4096MB
Appropriated: 896MB
Available: 3200MB

Nice!

PS: Gave up on my el cheapo dual 7300GTs due to my earlier missing RAM issue.
11-12-2006, 09:52 PM
Thasp

Quote:

Originally Posted by NghtShd

My RAM is spec'd @ 2.2v and the board posted fine. You might want to read the reviews on that RAM. Maybe a lot of it is user error, but there seem to be a lot of unhappy owners with Conroe systems.

I have searched the forum and I found one thread, the one with the g.skill tech posting settings.

Are you sure it's the right ram you're referring to? What would you recommend in that price range, then?
11-12-2006, 09:54 PM
Thasp

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpr

Question for the experts:

My E6600 does 3.2Ghz with ease with all voltages left at stock "Auto" (I just disabled Hyperthreading 3), with idle temps at 42C and load temps at 54C.

Despite its impressive overclockability to 3.2 Ghz at stock settings, I can't run stable at 3.6 Ghz even with the CPU VCore cranked up to 1.525V and the VMCH cranked up to 1.65V. Its actually a bit more stable when I leave the VMCH on Auto, although not much. Temps at these voltages increase to 54C at idle and 70C at load.

I can't believe there is no more headroom in this CPU over what it can do with stock voltages! Anybody have any similar experiences? Suggestions?

I see no system specs.. how can I help?

For all I know you're using an evercool vc-re for a CPU heatsink.
11-13-2006, 04:21 AM
Burner27

Quote:

Originally Posted by JokerCPoC

NO. You would still need a 64bit OS to see any possible effect, So under XP Pro x32 It's useless. :(

But this didn't happen under Bios 1101 so your answer is still not directed towards my question.

I understand I need a 64bit OS to see all the ram--that's not the question. If the previous bios I was using DID NOT appropriate any memory, and the OS I am using now "sees" 3GB of ram BEFORE I flashed to 1506 without appropriating 1152MBs of ram---how can I get that appropriated ram back?

This is a BIOS/Motherboard question--not and OS question.
11-13-2006, 06:15 AM
NO1B4ME

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchBBQ

Downloading and installing latest BIOS & Drivers helps reducing installation problems and instability of your system. Don't use the drivers on the accompanied ASUS CD of your P5W HD Deluxe motherboard!!

Please note:
NEW FINAL Intel Matrix Storage Manager v.6.2.0.2002 dated Oct 13, 2006 available

See link:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

Thanks I just upgraded my system with the 8/1/2006 ones. I will try these new ones out for the raid.
11-13-2006, 06:58 AM
nicepun

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpr

Question for the experts:

My E6600 does 3.2Ghz with ease with all voltages left at stock "Auto" (I just disabled Hyperthreading 3), with idle temps at 42C and load temps at 54C.

Despite its impressive overclockability to 3.2 Ghz at stock settings, I can't run stable at 3.6 Ghz even with the CPU VCore cranked up to 1.525V and the VMCH cranked up to 1.65V. Its actually a bit more stable when I leave the VMCH on Auto, although not much. Temps at these voltages increase to 54C at idle and 70C at load.

I can't believe there is no more headroom in this CPU over what it can do with stock voltages! Anybody have any similar experiences? Suggestions?

Well you need to post more info (rig specs) and bios settings.
11-13-2006, 07:44 AM
NghtShd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasp

I have searched the forum and I found one thread, the one with the g.skill tech posting settings.

Are you sure it's the right ram you're referring to? What would you recommend in that price range, then?

I looked at the RAM at newegg by clicking the link you provided then I checked the reviews there. Granted you have to take those reviews with a grain of salt (a lot of people just don't know what they're doing) and if you look at most lower priced RAM which has a good number of reviews there you'll see a lot of negatives, but I would at least do some shopping.

I don't really have anything to go on regarding recommendations other than my own experience. I'm using Ballistix BL2KIT12864AA804, which I got on sale for $250 before a $40 rebate. (Newegg's price is $340, but ZipZoomFly has it for $270.)
11-13-2006, 11:04 AM
Psitech

1602

http://web54.nsi24.miniserver.de/wbb...tachmentid=126
11-13-2006, 12:49 PM
lockeh

why is there new bios's flying out left right n center

what are they fixing?

is the stupid after 360fsb SPD bug fixed yet?

is the cold boot problems fixed yet?

has there been anymore overclocking with these new releases?
11-13-2006, 01:18 PM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psitech

1602

http://web54.nsi24.miniserver.de/wbb...tachmentid=126

Thanks, Flashed, I see no changes in the bios so far...:(
11-13-2006, 02:22 PM
JokerCPoC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner27

But this didn't happen under Bios 1101 so your answer is still not directed towards my question.

I understand I need a 64bit OS to see all the ram--that's not the question. If the previous bios I was using DID NOT appropriate any memory, and the OS I am using now "sees" 3GB of ram BEFORE I flashed to 1506 without appropriating 1152MBs of ram---how can I get that appropriated ram back?

This is a BIOS/Motherboard question--not and OS question.

Either You go back to that Bios version or wait until the 3Gb of ram comes back in a New bios version, Otherwise there is nothing You can do as some or all of that ram that is missing is taken up by Your Bios, the OS, It's drivers, programs, etc. It has to go someplace within the 4Gb address space otherwise It wouldn't be a 32bit OS.

To think otherwise is a bit naive. As It was the same with DOS years ago when people asked if DOS can address 1Mb How come I don't see It all? It has to go someplace.

The Bios and the OS has everything to do with How much ram You have that can be seen by the Bios/motherboard as outlined above, Since You may have 4Gb installed, But the Bios and then Windows is in charge of what goes where and since there may be some overlap, Guess what doesn't show up? Yep the ram that is missiing.
11-13-2006, 04:03 PM
rpr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasp

I see no system specs.. how can I help?

For all I know you're using an evercool vc-re for a CPU heatsink.

I AM using an Evercool VC-RE as my CPU heatsink. It's all I had...what's wrong with that? :(

Just kidding. System is as follows:

E6600 w/ Zalman 7700Cu
2GB OCZ PC 6400 Platinum Rev 2
P5W-DH Deluxe (first shipping revision)
ATI X1900XT

Settings are as follows:

356x9 (3.2 Ghz) rock solid Orthos stable with all stock BIOS settings (incl all "Auto" voltages & memory left at SPD) except for Disabled HyperPath 3. Running RAM at 890Mhz SPD timings. Idle temps are 42C and load temps are 54C.

400x9 (3.6 Ghz) best I can do is run Orthos for 80 seconds. Running RAM at rated speed of 800Mhz at SPD timings. Tried all combinations of CPU VCore (up to 1.525V) and VMCH (up to 1.65V). At 1.525 VCore and 1.65 VMCH my idle temps are 54C and load temps are 71C.

I haven't played with other BIOS settings other than disabling HyperPath 3 and bumping up VCore and VMCH. Actually seems a bit more stable with VMCH on "Auto". What am I missing???

With my 2.4 Ghz E6600 being able to do 3.2 Ghz at stock settings, I really don't feel the extra heat and stress on the system associated with ratcheting up voltages, etc. is worth it unless I can eek out at least another 400Mhz out of it (i.e.: to ~3.6 Ghz).

Any suggestions? What do I need to focus on other than VCore and VMCH???
11-13-2006, 04:56 PM
brock01

i have the exact same system rpr except diff hsf, CNPS9500led is what i got
and i found out that my ram SUCKS, i think
sending it back to newegg tom
try memtest and see if you get some errors
11-13-2006, 04:57 PM
Burner27

Quote:

Originally Posted by JokerCPoC

Either You go back to that Bios version or wait until the 3Gb of ram comes back in a New bios version, Otherwise there is nothing You can do as some or all of that ram that is missing is taken up by Your Bios, the OS, It's drivers, programs, etc. It has to go someplace within the 4Gb address space otherwise It wouldn't be a 32bit OS.

To think otherwise is a bit naive. As It was the same with DOS years ago when people asked if DOS can address 1Mb How come I don't see It all? It has to go someplace.

The Bios and the OS has everything to do with How much ram You have that can be seen by the Bios/motherboard as outlined above, Since You may have 4Gb installed, But the Bios and then Windows is in charge of what goes where and since there may be some overlap, Guess what doesn't show up? Yep the ram that is missiing.

I am in the BIOS and the ram is posting as 4096MB TOTAL. But then what is available IN THE BIOS shows up as 2944MB after "appropriating" 1152MB. You're saying the BIOS now, after a BIOS upgrade needs 1GB of ram? For what purpose? It didn't need it in the past. Please stop telling me it is DRIVERS, my OS and programs. The OS isn't even in the equation here.

I ask why the BIOS is usurping 1152MB when before in was taking 0.

************After a bit of tinkering I found out how to stop taking so much ram. Under the Chipset features, there is a setting for "memory remapping" 32 Bit disable/64bit enable. If I switch it to enable I get all 4096MB available even though WinXP sees 3GB (i know why I do not need an explaination)
11-13-2006, 06:43 PM
syne_24

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpr

I AM using an Evercool VC-RE as my CPU heatsink. It's all I had...what's wrong with that? :(

Just kidding. System is as follows:

E6600 w/ Zalman 7700Cu
2GB OCZ PC 6400 Platinum Rev 2
P5W-DH Deluxe (first shipping revision)
ATI X1900XT

Settings are as follows:

356x9 (3.2 Ghz) rock solid Orthos stable with all stock BIOS settings (incl all "Auto" voltages & memory left at SPD) except for Disabled HyperPath 3. Running RAM at 890Mhz SPD timings. Idle temps are 42C and load temps are 54C.

400x9 (3.6 Ghz) best I can do is run Orthos for 80 seconds. Running RAM at rated speed of 800Mhz at SPD timings. Tried all combinations of CPU VCore (up to 1.525V) and VMCH (up to 1.65V). At 1.525 VCore and 1.65 VMCH my idle temps are 54C and load temps are 71C.

I haven't played with other BIOS settings other than disabling HyperPath 3 and bumping up VCore and VMCH. Actually seems a bit more stable with VMCH on "Auto". What am I missing???

With my 2.4 Ghz E6600 being able to do 3.2 Ghz at stock settings, I really don't feel the extra heat and stress on the system associated with ratcheting up voltages, etc. is worth it unless I can eek out at least another 400Mhz out of it (i.e.: to ~3.6 Ghz).

Any suggestions? What do I need to focus on other than VCore and VMCH???

guys not all E6600 can run stable less than 1.5v My week 24 needed 1.55v in the bios to be stable with orthos. I went through 10 A batch E6600's and 2 B batch, all vcore were different for 3.6 stability. Raise the vcore is needed to tell what's holding you back. Do not be afraid to raise the vcore. I would go up to 1.6v for air just to rule out any possibility besides the CPU that is causing the unstability.
11-13-2006, 06:54 PM
rpr

Quote:

Originally Posted by syne_24

guys not all E6600 can run stable less than 1.5v My week 24 needed 1.55v in the bios to be stable with orthos. I went through 10 A batch E6600's and 2 B batch, all vcore were different for 3.6 stability. Raise the vcore is needed to tell what's holding you back. Do not be afraid to raise the vcore. I would go up to 1.6v for air just to rule out any possibility besides the CPU that is causing the unstability.

With load temps of 71C at 1.525???
11-13-2006, 07:12 PM
syne_24

ok if your not comfortable with the temps then maybe it's about time to rethink on a new cooler? If you're not going to isolate the problem how do you know what's holding you back? 90% of the time if your ram setting, vdimm, vmch and everything else is set right; it's the vcore that's needed to get stable. You tell me how do you know if you aint going to try..

This is my setting @ 3.6 stable:

CPU Frequency: 400MHz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 800MHz (1:1)
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 101
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.25V *depend on memory
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.375V *depend on cpu
FSB Termination: AUTO or 1.4
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V *depend on board, might need 1.75v for memory @ 1000mhz
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Digital Home Mode: Disabled

Under Advanced Chipset:

DRAM Timings by SPD: Manual (use rated timing such as 4-4-4-12 etc..)
DRAM ECC Mode: Disabled
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttling Threshold: Enabled
*All PEG Settings AUTO*

Under advanced CPU settings:

Microcode Updation: Enabled
Virtualization Technology: Enabled
*Everything else: Disabled*

Under device settings:

1394 Controller: Disabled
PCIE GbE LAN 1 or 2: Disabled (the one you're not using)
Jmicron SATA: Disabled (if not use)
Serial Port Address: Disabled
11-13-2006, 09:56 PM
JokerCPoC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner27

I am in the BIOS and the ram is posting as 4096MB TOTAL. But then what is available IN THE BIOS shows up as 2944MB after "appropriating" 1152MB. You're saying the BIOS now, after a BIOS upgrade needs 1GB of ram? For what purpose? It didn't need it in the past. Please stop telling me it is DRIVERS, my OS and programs. The OS isn't even in the equation here.

I ask why the BIOS is usurping 1152MB when before in was taking 0.

************After a bit of tinkering I found out how to stop taking so much ram. Under the Chipset features, there is a setting for "memory remapping" 32 Bit disable/64bit enable. If I switch it to enable I get all 4096MB available even though WinXP sees 3GB (i know why I do not need an explaination)

My point is that the Bios leaves a certain amount of space for those devices for XP x32, However if It sees a 64 bit NT loader program then that reserved space isn't needed by Windows XP x64, as x64 can load them above ones ram.

Well I'm glad You have Your 3Gb of ram. :D

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